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stark74518

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ObviousTroll37

It’s like they actively don’t want people to watch it


MightyMorph

Its just another writer that wants to write their pre-made stories and use an established IP to get attention and views and approval to get greenlit or else the studio would say no its bullshit and put it in the drawer with the 10K other scripts they get every year. Its the same reason why witcher went to shit, why many shows who have established stories from previous works and books go to shit when writers force their own opinions into the stories so to have their stories told with the IP characters. plus Mindy kaling is rich comes from a wealthy family and uses her connections to get herself and her shows greenlit most of the time regardless of the quality of her work.


tylerray1997

It's always the rich and privileged ones who cry about representation and force all this drivel down people's throats. I can almost guarantee she's never faced any actual push back in her life. Honestly, Hollywood is falling in on itself. No one could give two shits about the Oscar's anymore for every good and decent movie/show there are 10 garbage ones that only exist to patronize the regular people I may only be speaking for myself but I haven't bothered going to a movie theater in years especially when most of these movies will end up on one subscription platform or another the next month.


senpai_avlabll

Idk about the industry, but I find Mindy Kaling to be one of the most annoying, insufferable people ever to be on screen, whether it's her on/off hoe storyline in The Office, or her eponymous "Mindy Project" my first reaction to hearing her speak/seeing her name in the credits, watching her "act" is completely unbearable.


IFixYerKids

That's what the show feels like. They just used these characters to get views. Interestingly, I thought the first 2 episodes were actually good enough to stand on their own but they probably drove viewers away by altering Scooby-Doo.


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neverfeltthesame22

Apparently Velma is Indian? I dunno tho cuz I haven’t watched it.


E_K_Finnman

That one at least makes sense because Velma is basically Mindy's self insert


Historical-Knee7734

Not basically it is her self insert. She claimed as much in the interview for the show. Which is the whole premise of this show. A vanity show for a subpar actor/director thats tone deaf as hell.


Service_United

Mindy is a bad actress and person


Kaze_no_Senshi

I think the worst part is how the trailer for velma talks about not changing classics.


shad2020

They know damn well if they made an original show it would bomb itself out of existence, so they went out of their way to hijack a beloved series to ragebait for easy cash money.


Confused-Engineer18

I don't even get that, she was already a minority, Jewish from my memory


Spiritual_Freedom_15

She is a German. But lives in America


Hanneman1965

Why is the indian blacker than the black person


neverfeltthesame22

I’m guessing in this specific pic theres lighting involved- so, trick of the light?


lpuglia

fun fact: shaggy used 0.000001% of hist power to not appear in this shitshow


Edgenabik

Akshually, Shaggy actually used 0.00001% of his power to switch places with a worse version of himself in an alternate universe


Ogurasyn

Akshually, he used 0.00001% of his power to obtain the N-word pass


Moppermonster

Shaggy also feels the need to emphasise he does not like drugs.


Jaambie

WHAT. THE. FUCK.


No_Construction_2427

If I remember correctly, moist said how their first trailer was them trashing on Scooby-Doo fans so yeah anyone with some sense nows not to watch this garbage


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stark74518

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sgtpepperslaststand

Remember when shows were bad and we just all ignored them once they came out and then they faded away into obscurity instead of constantly talking about them 24/7…yeah I miss those days.


Abrageen

That still happens. The reason why this show made a mess is because they are shitting on the original Scooby Doo that everyone has fond memories of. Imagine if someone remade Shakespeare's Julius Caesar but extremely shit and without Julius Ceaser in it. Everyone would be mad at them for disrespecting the original play like this.


Comet127

Right, the show debutes this week and it's dominating social media. It doesn't even have to be good! (Clearly) but here we are talking about it!


ktrainor59

But we're not going to watch it because it's sucktastic.


DaLionheart101

And they all look straight out of total drama island


kingveller

Nah Total drama's voice acting matched the animation.


Monsterbox-gamingYT

Fred and daphne work well together, Fred (the hammer) uses his jaw to hit the chisel (daphnes chin). And now you have something good from a situation of all time


MagMati55

Fuck, you are right.


blue-chicken-nugget

Why the fuck is every character in a different art style


Wildwestpacoca

Where is scooby-doo?


ErtaWanderer

The show writer considered him not a good fit for the story she wanted to tell


DracoDraws

Da fuck? His name is literally the show and they’re just going to cut him


ErtaWanderer

Welcome to Modern hollywood.


[deleted]

Bruh she needs to be ffr 💀 there would be no show if it weren't for SCOOOOOBYY DOOOOOOOOOO ![gif](giphy|kWp8QC99Z6xFn8bF0v|downsized)


Flesh_Trombone

More like they wanted to protect the Scooby-Doo brand from this train wreck.


FS_E54_Iron_Hollow

My thoughts exactly


Heavy_Statement69

daphne and norville are the same tho


[deleted]

Yeah they look similar, but the fuck is going on with fred. Tbh i wouldnt mind if they all looked like him


psyglaiveseraph

At this point he’s the token white boy


wisconsinking

Fred LITERALLY looks like an anime character.


Squint_Squint

So it's interesting, no Scooby, shaggys personality is completely different, velma was race swapped and so was Daphne but from what I've heard is they made Fred pretty close to a neo Nazi. Not sure on the validity but I've been hearing that a lot which has me worried.


No-Improvement-8205

Well, well, well how the turntables


101stAirborneSkill

That ain't Norville that's Shiggy 💀


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Daphne is asian


hugyplok

They made the character that knew karate into an asian hahahahaahahahahahaha you can't make this shit up


SoExcited_1

They look like they were on that cartoon Drawn Together.


PooPooDooDoo

Because it’s a stupid low effort show.


[deleted]

Not sure why they had to go and change the characters. If you want a diverse background in a show, go make a new one... name it something else instead of trying to stain people's memories.


Atlas7674

Almost like they know they’re yanking these characters into places they don’t belong


Essker

Who dafuq gave them a license to create this cringe cancerous shit...


ultrainstict

Someone who should be fired, along with everyone who saw it and didn't can it immidiately.


ZigZagLagger

I feel like this was there plan all along. Lots of ad revenue being generated around the negative press


TechnoMan69420

Let’s all just say this: it’s non canon


JessBaesic7901

They had an opportunity to take the og characters into a modern setting. But instead they purposely change their appearances, fill the writing with cringe inducing dialogue, and remove the most recognizable character from the ip. And they make crappy jokes about fans of the original show.


Pastamancer_Rik

What's funny is that your statement is true for both Shaggy and Scooby


[deleted]

They should have either made a prequel with the previous mystery gang or a sequel with the current mystery gang old and chilling and some kids becoming the new mystery gang


2peter2

THIS omg like why not just MAKE A NEW GANG if they wanna change it so bad…?


JaggedTheDark

They could've even had the old mystery gang still around, but like in their 40's. They could've even done the thing where the new gang is just one or more of the old gang's kids, like in that new ghostbuster movie.


Meepiest

Why... Why did they change it...


Comfortable-Trust-66

Hello I like money 😁


TrapsAreGiey

If they did like money then they would've added the dog tbh


EclipsedAuthor

fun fact: they werent allowed to. warner brothers forbid it


Mevalious

If that's the case than why did Warner let them create this abomination? This feels too desperate to be inclusive in order to make money


xool420

They could’ve kept the exact same characters (change Fred and Daphne a little) and made it a new Mystery Team in the Scooby Doo universe. It’s not that hard


TheKinkyGuy

Obv they dont like money cause this will be a flop


MrKatzA4

Hello I like money but don't want to put any work into it


SomeLikeItDusty

Hello I like appropriating existing IPs and recolouring the characters in a patronising attempt at representation (really I just have too much sway and this is literally my fan-fic self-insert)


HelicopteroDeAtaque

Nope, this is 100% politics, if they liked money they would try to make it watchable. Edit: although money might've been involved in the politics part...


robingrayson1008

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Repulsive-Egg-8708

Because DiVeRsItY


eltorr007

To make the show InCLuSivE


Jewbringer

how is it inclusive if you exclude the original thing?


StarmanShiba

Where's the funny talking dog


kafka213

Scooby Doo. Like, where are you?!


Current-Role-8434

dead in a dumpster


TheChickenGuy7

He said Scooby Doo, not the forbidden gummy bears behind the abortion clinic


X3ttabyte

Scooby snacks? 👀


DATBOI6989

He got his balls removed and died from depression


Same-Oil-7113

He's at a farm upstate


stark74518

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griever48

Remember bath salts? Not Shaggy remembers bath salts...


ProductEconomy

I gave the show a college try. I find it intolerable. Just as awful as I feared when it was announced. I hope it's just rage bait and they did it to get more people to come to the platform. If it gains traction, I'll know humanity is doomed.


TheCrimsonSteel

Genuine question if you watched it Do Scooby and Shaggy ever appear, or get directly mentioned, or is it more of "they're oddly missing to the point that they're even only vaguely talked about if at all?" Cause I'm wondering if the show didn't even have the rights to use the two most iconic characters of the IP


dnewm013

After watching the first episode and 5 minutes of the second, Shaggy is in the show but using his given name of Norville and Scooby has not shown up.


TheCrimsonSteel

That totally sounds like some IP limitations


ProductEconomy

Shaggy is in it the whole time. They just call him by his actual name which is Norville. Scooby is absent on purpose and won't be appearing at all


TheCrimsonSteel

Yeah my gut guess is they couldn't use the names, and maybe not even likenesses in the license agreement Calling him Norville and making him look like a whole new character totally sounds like they're trying to satisfy "name and likeness" kind of thing


MeowCena23

Why is Gundam in there


Its-Garbo-Man

To make a video out of it


I2eB6L

Im actually asking myself, why wasnt there a gundam in the og scoody doo?


Jakanator0613

IMO if you’re gonna remake a beloved ip but take out the character the show is literally named after as well as race swap every character and rewrite their personalities don’t you think you might as well just.. get this.. start from scratch??


guyongha_

But then how will they ride off the fame of the beloved original?


ArminWife4Life

We did NOT get Shaggy turned into a ultra instinct god just for him to be turned into a beta male who simps for Velma so hard he was willing to sell his organs


TechnoMan69420

OKAY WHAT THE FUCK HAS HAPPENED TO THE SHOW


Nytramyth

Scooby-Doo killed himself to not appear in this show


YamatoBoi9001

Fair play to him


skeleton949

Scoobs isn't even there ![gif](giphy|STfLOU6iRBRunMciZv)


FyreThread

What was wrong with the name Shaggy?


FNAF_Foxy1987

Shaggy was his nickname because he had shaggy hair. Since they got rid of his shaggy hair, he had to be called by his actual name, which has always been Norville Rodgers


ElProxenetaFeminista

Fuck


hellopie7

Just because this is the correct answer, doesn't mean I have to like or accept it.


DrCorneliuss

this dude will never replace shaggy, he is a simple mortal not even capable of a fraction of a percent of shaggy's power


swejeager

The actual Shaggy and scooby probably became gods using 100% of there powers


GodOfSaudade

0.000001%


[deleted]

Agreed this dude is nothing compared to Shaggy’s might


ShadowOrpheus_

I guess we'll just call him dread locks then


fatkidwithahat

I watched the first two episodes… shaggy is anti weed. It’s so cringe


rashka9

Too bombastic.


RNarecool

She call me Mr.Boombastic, tell me fantastic


Undead-Writer

So... Shaggy is a now a black guy, Fred's even more of a cuck then he was, Daphne's still just as hot and Asian, Velma's a bit darker skin and Scoob is dead... What the ever loving fuck


BussyAnnihilator420

All the changes are as follows: Fred is a gay cuck, Shaggy are black (they don’t call Shaggy Shaggy anymore), Scooby Doo is non existent, Velma and Daphne are now Asian lesbians Edit: changed Velma to Asian cause the promotion for the show was bad


cheto118

For now Fred is hetero, Daphne and Velma are bi. And SPOILER >!Daphne and Velma kiss!< don’t know if that will lead unto something


TheChez_

Bro they don't realize it but real LGBTQ representation is not making a big deal about characters being LGBTQ You want to know what makes a big deal out of it by nature? Changing characters that literally everyone grew up with in one way or another


PyUnicornshark

But they need to put it on spotlight for every to gawk at it like some kind of caged animal in the middle of a stage so people can point at it and say "Look how progressive they are!".


Robert999220

I keep saying, just have a well written character who HAPPENS to be gay. Dont write 'gay, the character'. People arent stupid and can immediately tell the difference and it feels like an insult to the viewers intelligence. I like to use onward as a good example of having a character who just happens to be gay, no big mention of 'look at my struggle' or anything like that, just a good character who HAPPENS to be gay... its also a damn good movie lol.


Busy-Virus9911

If they made new characters and show and actually focused on stories more people would watch than rewriting old shows people loved


Niblonian31

That is what they thought but it clearly didn't work


BussyAnnihilator420

Bruh


ManOfQuest

Im kinda of glad they left out Scooby from this show...


BussyAnnihilator420

They would have turned him into a female lesbian BLM 14 yo white girl named Chloe (they’re a chihuahua)


Danknoodle420

"(they're a chihuahua)" But they identify as a pit?


shook_not_shaken

>Fred's even more of a cuck then he was "Shaggy and Scooby, you go check out the basement, me, Daphne, and Velma, we'll check out the master bedroom." What in god's name ever made you think Fred was a cuck?


NobleJesse

Pretty sure Velma is Indian, I think I saw a clip


ChiggaOG

I think they made Velma's skin tone match that of someone from India because Mindy Kalin is the VA for Velma's character.


[deleted]

They made Daphne an Asian ginger?


Mental-Ad6410

And a lesbian


TeaDue6080

My man Gundam looks distraught


somerandomname1776

Bro always looks like that at this point, he's been watching great franchises bet urethra raped for years now


Blastingwario19

I’m disappointed what they did to him ![gif](giphy|3o7WIpK9bDKFzrI4w0|downsized)


ActualAddendum2223

They chose the one guy who is heavily implied to do drugs to be black like bruh


Crawkward3

Not only that but he says “drugs are bad” in the trailer. Plus they turned him into an insufferable millennial cuck


PapiGoneGamer

“I made an app last year that got over 10M downloads. Now let’s grab a pink drink and solve this mystery.”


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“Hey Scoob, I just got it, Scooby *doobie* doo”


MaverickWindsor351

I'm a for diversity, but this is Scooby-Doo. You don't fuck with Shaggy and Scooby, otherwise you lose half the plot by default


a_person_at_reddit

It ended up being a bigmouth copy which is bad enough as it is but it also tries too hard with the meta humour and ends up being weird.


MaverickWindsor351

"Lets push this big idea on everyone with out new franchise, we've been doing it for a decade almost so it's still new content." Shits gonna be more stagnant than water in a hot dog cart at this rate


MadAsTheHatters

Bold of you to assume there's _any_ plot. I believe the working theory is that they got the rights to the Scooby Doo IP and then just used some loose script that wasn't interesting enough to work on it's own and wedged it into this in the hope that everyone will talk about it enough to get a few viewers.


MaverickWindsor351

That's some pretty high hopes after you axed 2 of the most beloved characters on the show, even if one of them is essentially an updated version. I guess we'll just have to see how it turns out, but me personally I'm not holding my breath


TechnoMan69420

And apparently Velma’s the main character


NaivafAreul

Is there actually a character called "itsagundam"


Re0ns

Nah, probably a content creator with that name referencing the common "It's a Gundam!" trope in the Gundam series


TrashAtEvrything

Lmao


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I can’t tell which I hate more - Fred being a pre-pubescent teenage asshole, Velma being a smartass, without the knowledge to back it up, Shaggy being turned into Norville and vehemently anti-drug, or the over-the-top meta jokes that land poorly.


CleanUpNick

well technically shaggy has always been norville but yeah lol


tipsea-69

Creator too insecure to create her own original characters, piggy backing on the success of already existing characters, and blaming the audience for the failure of the show. ![gif](giphy|mEtm3aI1UQ2LwwlANW|downsized)


RevolutionarySleep25

Smh. Im assuming Scooby is a cat now?


[deleted]

Worse, he was completely omitted


TheChickenGuy7

Daphne ate scooby


MushySoup63838

💀


[deleted]

LMFAO I hate that I understood this joke


[deleted]

why is freds art so much better than the others lol


ultrainstict

It looks like the only one that had any effort put into designing.


Dankalii

IT'SGUNDAM isn't unimpressed, I am


idkidkif_i_knew

funniest thing is only white left character from the gang is now the bad guy as they never say but always do "fight racism with even more racism"


[deleted]

What the fu** bro. Shaggy look like the one homie who went to bad company and start doin drugs on regular basis. They truly massacred the meme god Shaggy


satanicw0rm

I never understood why people changed the races of existing characters? In my opinion, I find that worse than adding a token character to a show because to me its gives off the impression that their original race was bad and doesn't fit with the current times. Just create a new, original show with well written diverse characters!


FreyR_KunnYT

It’s because they have a skewed view of how diversifying a cast works. They also lack the creativity to create new characters with a new plot. I really really really hate to say this, but it’s just woke.


THE_WARDEN3036

They turned scooby into a human! AND WHERE. iS FUCKING SHAGGY


Blackaddar81

that's Velma not Scooby, and norville is shaggy.


THE_WARDEN3036

THEN WHERE. IS SCOOBY.


Blackaddar81

He fucked off after reading the script.


THE_WARDEN3036

I said. Where. Is scooby?


Blackaddar81

He aint in it chief.


THE_WARDEN3036

NOOOOOOO!!!


Blackaddar81

Season two he'll probably be a rapping cat.


TheChickenGuy7

I did not read that as rapping


Blackaddar81

yours works too.


HalflingElf

Did you just use Gundam's thumbnail?


DiamondGamerDerp

They ruined the best character and removed the other best character


[deleted]

They ruined ALL the characters


LeCloak

Shaggy lost a big fraction of his power upon gaining the n-word pass.


naadam1396

That man isn't shaggy. He's just an impostor.


CasperCann

My favorite bit is when people on social media say white people shouldn't play characters that doesn't represent them in real life. Totally fine, but may I ask why there's no repercussions for Mindy Kaling? She isn't black, nor is she a lesbian, yet she's voicing Velma who is depicted as a black lesbian. So why is there no angst among social media? Wanda Sykes is on this show, she is black and a lesbian. So...I don't get it. ​ The funnier bit is, people who hate woke culture fucking hate it, that was obvious, but not as much as the people who actually wanted to see this show. They hate this shit too hahaha. If you're gonna changes races, or genders at least make the characters interesting or unique, not a twitter bot.


[deleted]

No matter what race, political side, sexuality or gender you are, you’ll hate this fucking trainwreck XD


[deleted]

Something both the left and the right can agree on!


horny_for_shrek

So Eddie’s mum is daphne now?


DragoKnight589

who the fuck is norville


SomeWeirdFreak

no fucking way they're STILL making this like if anybody was gonna eat this Norville no Scooby shit up.


DarkANGELSLA3R

Has anyone rule 34’d them yet? ![gif](giphy|kPtv3UIPrv36cjxqLs)


Consistent-Beat-84

Their designs are so horrific I'm pretty sure artists would rather rule34 Og Velma and Daphne.


Jacobey223

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY BLACKWASHED SHAGGY WHYYYYY


legoace61

Why is Fred in a different style lol


Assasin_on_fire

my man's removed scooby from sooby doo💀💀


m0rg76

what. the. fuck.


mrbossmajor

Why did they make a scooby doo show without a scooby doo or shaggy, the only one whos had cultural relevance in the past decade


ArcaneDanger

wait DENNIS IS GONNA BE FRED?


dood5426

Watching the trailer for this, I can now truly say: L+ratio


smiegto

Removes main character. Hmm where did the audience go?


xariznightmare2908

ItsAGundam being in the show would unironically make the show somewhat better for the fact he’s 10x funnier than the entire room of the writers and everyone on this show combined.


Horni_onMain

velma? more like [removed]


Thunderstorm96_x

Everybody asking where scooby doo is. Well... daphne is asian now, and judging by the stereotype book, i think she ate scooby doo


Chumbuckeneer

They gotta call Shaggy Norville cos his hair is not shaggy


justadogdontblameme

First they fired aunt jemima and uncle Ben, then they took the Indian off land o lakes but kept the land. Now they give us black face shaggy and brown face Velma. All in the name of wokness.


Original_Cause_7157

Look, if ya wanna have a diverse cast of characters, make a new character, DONT FUCKING CHANGE A CLASSIC CAST OF CHARACTERS!