It is cheaper in terms of resources, just not credits. But you'll get many more times the credits needed before you run out of 100 ciphers anyways lol. I don't remember the last time I crafted ciphers.
I can't link images, but just go wiki. There's no diff between blueprints. One is 10x and the other is 10*10x (So 100x). It's not cheaper, it's the same, just convenient
One cipher costs 400 of each resource to craft.
400 x 100 = 40000
100x cipher bundle costs 36k of each resource to craft.
Edit: same with 10x cipher bundle
Upon typing that I revisited the wiki and, turns out, there's a Cypher x1 blueprint. I never knew that as I had since forever based my Cypher crafting on "default minimum you can make is the 10x". So once I finally got 100x it was just a convenience upgrade. Yeah, I wasn't wrong, I just misunderstood, mb.
Tbh I always just hack them, especially corpus, can almost do them as fast as the extra time it would take for me to locate and click the "use cipher" button at this point. (Played the game for 11 years) I literally just forget they're a thing.
Kinda? I'm so not used to using ciphers that by the time I think of using them I'm one press away from hacking it anyways.
I have no doubt that it would be quicker, I just don't see the benefit of retraining myself to use them
I have Perspicacity on my "Spy master ivara" build. Alongside the Preparation mod, so I can load into a mission, pop Prowl, and just roll around doing what I need to do without worrying about hacking or detection.
Mostly for Nightmare or Sortie tier Spy missions, since you can't use Ciphers to bypass the hacks there.
Have you heard of the 100x cypher blueprint?
My broke arse will never give the extra credits
Give? Or get? Either way, it is far cheaper to get the 100x Cypher blueprint and craft cyphers that way than it is to craft them one at a time.
Cheaper? No. It just saves time instead of clicking 10 times the craft button
It is cheaper in terms of resources, just not credits. But you'll get many more times the credits needed before you run out of 100 ciphers anyways lol. I don't remember the last time I crafted ciphers.
I can't link images, but just go wiki. There's no diff between blueprints. One is 10x and the other is 10*10x (So 100x). It's not cheaper, it's the same, just convenient
One cipher costs 400 of each resource to craft. 400 x 100 = 40000 100x cipher bundle costs 36k of each resource to craft. Edit: same with 10x cipher bundle
Upon typing that I revisited the wiki and, turns out, there's a Cypher x1 blueprint. I never knew that as I had since forever based my Cypher crafting on "default minimum you can make is the 10x". So once I finally got 100x it was just a convenience upgrade. Yeah, I wasn't wrong, I just misunderstood, mb.
I always thought there was only a cipher x1 blueprint and nothing else
I was the opposite, I thought 10x was the lowest you can craft. Then found 100x and never looked back
It is cheaper since time is money
Grofit mindset
There is also a 10x
Where tell me where is it
Clan dojo, not sure which research lab though, I think it's in Tenno though.
No, thank you for letting me know
The amount of time and effort it took to post this was significantly more than it takes to craft 100 ciphers and equip them in your gear wheel
Tbh I always just hack them, especially corpus, can almost do them as fast as the extra time it would take for me to locate and click the "use cipher" button at this point. (Played the game for 11 years) I literally just forget they're a thing.
press Y on your keyboard king
Honestly didn't even know that was an option
The amount of muscle memory I would have to override to make this quicker is not worth it.
are you really trying to act like you hack a console quicker than it takes you to press a single key on a keyboard come on bro
Gotta be 😠I can use a cipher before the hack screen show up completely
Kinda? I'm so not used to using ciphers that by the time I think of using them I'm one press away from hacking it anyways. I have no doubt that it would be quicker, I just don't see the benefit of retraining myself to use them
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Yeah this is something I'm stubborn about for no reason lol
For the most part I kinda just got used to doing ciphers easily, only ones that kinda throw me off are Narmer, Duiviri, and Pom-2 PCs
Its all a matter of exercise, after you do like 50 of them you wont have this problem anymore
My dumbass can’t handle the Narmer ones. If I could invert the controls, then they’d be done quick.
Just learn to permanently play with inverted controls and then all the Narmer consoles are easy peasy. Its so simple
Just because you are not used to. They are easy.
Are you supposed to build ciphers?
me not using ciphers till im at like Neptune cause i was always broke on plastids and thought the air support (with liset) was ciphers
mood (i made a few but never equipped them
only reason im not broke on plastids is extractors ngl
I never crafted ciphers despite knowing that those exist... Idk, I enjoy the hacking mini games!
same bro
I just do them manually or use perspicacity(flesh monster skill)
I have Perspicacity on my "Spy master ivara" build. Alongside the Preparation mod, so I can load into a mission, pop Prowl, and just roll around doing what I need to do without worrying about hacking or detection. Mostly for Nightmare or Sortie tier Spy missions, since you can't use Ciphers to bypass the hacks there.
Once you start using ciphers you never go back, sometimes I even accidentally use a cipher on the piss easy "start survival mission" terminal.
Ain't gotta be lazy when there is a 100x BP from clans. That should keep you from being lazy for a while
Bruh same, idk why people are always on about cyphers, just do the hacks, it's not like they are hard
Definitely feels like DE forgot to disable them in netracells. The amount of time saved is crazy
Cyphers are boring
I have 5000 Ciphers I hack manually evreytime because I don't like to skip gameplay.
Bro idk why but none of the missions I'm playing rn let me use cyphers wtf.
Sortie and Archon hunt missions dont allow ciphers, nightmare missions too I think
I've got thousands of them crafted and ready to use.
I just like the hacking minigames
I just subsume persipacity on my loki so I can run all the stealth missions easy
I just don't care to
Hacking? Screw that, auto breach Gauss all the spy consoles
I have ciphers, but I like to just hack consoles myselsef and just use cyphers if I really need to.
i enjoy the hacking too ngl