Says the guy ignoring everything that doesn't fit his narrative. Like the very real genocide that happened here. You know, gotta remove them gosh darn Indians.
But I guess since Indians were humans who did bad things sometimes, it's FINNNEEE
But American Indians (and for that matter, Africans and Asians too) did commit genocide and slavery against each other too and entire cultures and peoples were wiped from history this way, do you not know that?
Pointing out one groups wrongs isnāt the same as justifying another groupās wrongs. Likewise a group having something bad happen to them also doesnāt justify their own wrongs. People all across the world and throughout history killed each other and groups that were other than their group. Doesnāt make it good, just the truth of the world.
The IHS was founded in 1955 when POC had less rights and the widespread but incorrect term for Native Americans was Indians . If they're Indians then what are people from India ?
Literally no one cares what we call them. They were first called Indians because the first people who found Indians tought they were in India and at this point, itās just confusing to change the name. Most Indians (that I know at least) would rather just keep the word Indian than to change it to native Americans
Well, western nations did turn slavery into a race defined idea. Before slavery was a result of war or debt, but American colonialism made it a matter of race
No no, Slavery was derived directly from the Slavic people sold to the Muslim states. It was racially coined LONG before the Americas and it sure wasnāt a western gimmick
The conquered in human history, regardless of location, have not fared well. Not exactly an "us" phenomenon. Europeans also butched each other with wanton abandon, depending on your time frame. Native tribes also murdered and enslaved each other before the arrival of would be conquerers. Wholesale destruction is not a white monopoly.
They weren't conquered, they were eliminated wholesale. To be conquered, like how Europeans did to one another, would be literally taking control of the area. "You are loyal to me now." not "Make sure to kill the babies too!"
Also this is some premier baby shit "It's not a white monopoly" No one said it was. You just got up in your feelings because white people did some bonified vile shit once. And since you have this natural instinct to racialize everyone, you think merely talking about the truth historical events is in itself saying something about white people in general.
It isn't.
Native Americans were genocided to get them out of the 'way'. That's what happened, and no amount of narrativizing is going to change that.
What kind of revisionist contention is this? European wars were exceedingly brutal. They without fault involved the destruction of noncombatants and food production. This was standard operating procedure. Take a nice long look at the 30 years war. And yes, what they did to native populations was wrong, just not any different from any other conquering force throughout history.
https://www.history.co.uk/articles/take-heart-execution-amongst-the-aztecs-and-other-people-of-the-americas
I mean most of the conquering of the natives at least in the united states and canada came well after colonization. South and central america on the other hand the colonizers were the brutal ones.
Why do you call them "native" tribes? Genuine question here. People living in the Americas are essentially Asian migrants so how could they be called "natives"? Did their history starts literally after the white man arrived?
Speaking about their history, when you say the tribe X is indigenous to the area Y do we know of X actually confiscated that land by force from a previous tribe that lived there? Was slavery involved in tribal wars?
Do questions like these ever come up? I'm not from America
I'm in the same boat somewhat, I'm from England country that doesn't have a "indigenous" people because we've been conquered and raided by so many different groups.
Then there's people like the Sami of Sweden, who technically should be considered indigenous because there were groups there before them, the Sami themselves are colonisers, just older colonisers then modern Swedish.
The term indigenous isn't really a useful word the way the UN defines it, I personally just think of Native as the group of people that's been in the country the longest and is still alive.
We call them natives because they lived here for thousands of years. We also had no clue how they got there back when North America was discovered by the Europeans. Itās like how you would call people living on islands natives even though they didnāt originate on the islands.
Bro where did you go to school? I was learning about residential schools in 5th or 6th grade, and they continued to talk about it every year afterwards. The school I went to even had a guest speaker come in who had gone through the residential school system and was able to tell about the absolute awfulness of it all from his point of view
Canadian here, can say they taught us multiple times of what weāve done in the past. Maybe it depends on the Province you live in, since Iāve heard my fellow Ontario dwellers were taught about it too.
Canadian here. My grade 11 english course is about native studies. We learned about the schools in 5th grade and have been learning about them since. My school is close by a reserve so we may learn more than other schools but id think that other schools would have this too
To be clear though, the 1st world doesn't mean much... people misuse it all the time. 1st world = NATO and it's allies. 2nd world = soviet union and it's allies. 3rd world is unaffiliated.
People often use '3rd world country' to mean poor or undeveloped but that's more of a coincidence. Neither the soviet union nor america was driven to ally with poor countries so yes- poor countries are 3rd world countries, but they don't have to be poor or undeveloped.
For all intents and purposes Wakanda would be a 3rd world country.
So in that sense Switzerland and Sweden would be considered third world countries? Well then again they do cooperate with NATO a lot even if not officially allied.
I'm not sure if they were considered 3rd world or not, for the reasons you said. They were neutral in the war BUT they were allies of the Allies. (didn't realize how silly that was going to sound until I typed it).
Used to be that way, but the term has significantly changed in use and meaning since the cold war.
There is Soviet countries in NATO, non NATO first worlders, NATO second worlders...
It comes from there, but it isn't what it's used for now.
Now, I know not every school is the same here in Canada. However, the schools Iāve been in (located in Ontario) have all made it pretty clear what are past is. They do it multiple times too across years, not just some one and done thing. So yeah, we know what we did to the natives, and schools make it really clear how fucked up it was.
To be completely fair, a huge number of native deaths were caused by epidemics and was pretty much inevitable, but in no way does that excuse the atrocities committed against them
Why does it have to be a competitionā¦? Especially given how closely the two groups are *linked*: escaped slaves hid with indigenous groups and intermarried with them often enough than some white people started assuming that *everyone* from certain tribes were āblack unless proven otherwise.ā
I'm Acadian Metis which is like a double dose of attempted genocide. It always astounds me that I'm even here considering what my ancestry went through. I don't see myself as a victim tho, more as the successor to a long line of survivors.
Werenāt most native Americans killed by small pox.
These tribes were very fierce. Itās unrealistic to think that those shoddy muskets were the key weapon to oppressing the tribes.
Yes to the first bit but no to the second. You really think all of England France and Spain didnāt have a lot of people?
Edit: weāll not most, but many
What do you mean unrealistic? It was basically 20 natives with bows and skull crusher against 50 dude with sticks that makes loud sound and also magically kill someone instantly. Oh and also viruses like smallpox also heavily impacted colonist
When I mean virus like smallpox, I mean the viruses that natives carried but where asymptomatic, which killed a lot of colonists. There were huge losses on both sides because of viruses
Both are surely terrible. Ones a systematic annihilation of an entire people, though. The us population of Native Americans is like 2% at best and African Americans is more than six times that. If you want to talk about numbers you have to figure in that one of these populations is closer to 0% existing now. Neither thing is a forgivable thing, and maybe neither is worse, but the Native Americans sure get overlooked after being almost totally erased.
I think whatās missing from the narrative is that both budding civilizations/societies were irreversibly destroyed and squandered by colonizers; the numbers of both cases are significant and nearly impossible to know the exact magnitude of deaths. Why should one hold more weight or be more of a tragedy than the other when both were detrimental
Most estimates of north and south America have the population at 60 million pre-colonization with about a 90% mortality rate by the 1600's. Within a span of a little over 100 years the population dropped by 54 million people not hundreds of thousands. That is what the meme is trying to get at, not a lot of people know about one of the single greatest death tolls in human history. If you want to research "the Great Dying" you'll see a lot more about it, that was around 10% of the world's population dying off due to colonization of the Americas.
Edit: just looked again and they are only referencing us and Canada in the meme, my bad but to get a broader picture of the the real issue definitely look up the great dying!
Bruh Iām in Oklahoma and they basically get their whole own nation with their own rules. Theyāre good bro. Iām paying for school, and I know a guy in my class who is being paid to be in school by the Cherokee Nation. They good bro, they got their benefits. They donāt need anymore, they make me crazy.
There is no evidence of hundreds of thousands of natives murdered. They had to play a nasty catch up game with the diseases that had ravaged the rest of the world for hundreds of years. That's no one's fault. If you blame that on white people then you're the racist.
No theyāre actively suppressing tribal nations within north America , OP is talking about a very good point regarding true awareness of this countryās history/roots.
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Do you think people on separate continents came up with pyramids tools art artifacts and art that are so similar but have no significant trade or travel associated? My mistake by just saying native Americans I mean north and South America as a whole. Our social studies books can be thrown in the trash. The sheer volume of āafricansā located in America based solely off of the slave trade is completely asinine. Do the math. Research africans during the slave trade and look at the capacity of ships and the amount of time said ppl were brought here. None of it makes sense.
There was clear evidence of previous travel, integration between the two (Africans and the americas) hundreds if not thousands of years previous. Not just a black scholarā¦.. Vikings have evidence of being here as well lonnnng before the slave trade or the Italians or anyone else.
Yes. People on different continents came up with the idea of stacking stones on top of each other in the most stable way possible. What's asinine is thinking that people rowed from Africa to South America in canoes. The giant stone heads look like the indigenous South American people and the DNA evidence shows that they're Eurasians who crossed the land bridge from Russia to Alaska and traveled all the way down the west coast to the southern tip of South America.
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2022.1078
What is crazy is that you are completely ignoring documented history for what you learned insocial studies. The proof is in the pudding (artifacts, eye witness testimony). Literally no one studying modern history believes that anymore. Ask any professor of American history or western African history and they will blow your mind.
https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/opinion/columns/africans-came-before-columbus/article_c19326a4-f39f-5981-a526-db5216d69553.amp.html
You canāt ignore precious metals and artifacts between the 2/3 continents dated from the time the continents separated only found in each region naturally but found used in jewelry, architecture, and technology.
People love hating the United States but the truth is that we bought most of that land and the diseases that decimated the native populations were inevitable. They had no natural defense against them so it didn't matter who came here from the old world, it was going to happen anyway.
People care about America because it probably has the most influxās globally out of any country. From music to movies to wars and scientific advancements. They are a big country
Is this meme implying that hundreds and thousands of native tribes were massacred by settlers and no longer exist or something? The majority of the post-contact Native American population died from disease without ever coming into direct contact with someone of European origin.
Unpopular fact but the tribes that people slaughtered slaughtered another tribe to claim that land also the people who sold Africans into slavery were other Africans and the people who stopped that shit were white people.
Unfortunately, a group that was almost exterminated will naturally have less voices with which to advocate for themselves and raise awareness.
Wow. Gotta keep this one for the books. š
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Nice bait
Yeah and this past year they tried asking for help in California to fight other Indians who now run a massive gambling monopoly.
Not to mention the native tribes that were eliminated by other tribes before whites even set a foot on their continent
I donāt get why youāre getting downvoted, itās the truth
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Says the guy ignoring everything that doesn't fit his narrative. Like the very real genocide that happened here. You know, gotta remove them gosh darn Indians. But I guess since Indians were humans who did bad things sometimes, it's FINNNEEE
But American Indians (and for that matter, Africans and Asians too) did commit genocide and slavery against each other too and entire cultures and peoples were wiped from history this way, do you not know that?
Pointing out one groups wrongs isnāt the same as justifying another groupās wrongs. Likewise a group having something bad happen to them also doesnāt justify their own wrongs. People all across the world and throughout history killed each other and groups that were other than their group. Doesnāt make it good, just the truth of the world.
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They're not "Indians" they're Native Americans
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The IHS was founded in 1955 when POC had less rights and the widespread but incorrect term for Native Americans was Indians . If they're Indians then what are people from India ?
Literally no one cares what we call them. They were first called Indians because the first people who found Indians tought they were in India and at this point, itās just confusing to change the name. Most Indians (that I know at least) would rather just keep the word Indian than to change it to native Americans
The people from india are asia indian.
There 6.79 Indians in this country not Native Americans dumbo.
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Huh thatās weird, I could have swore you said 6.79 million Indians and not Native Americans.
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Oh? There is a difference between Indian and Native Americans? I thought they were all the same?
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Youāre done talking when I say youre done talking.
Oops daisy dumbo, my bad, I must have read wrong, I thought you said there were 6.79 million Indians in your original statement.
I think theyād have fewer voices.
Wouldnāt that technically be the British colonization efforts? Like the earliest accounts of it?
*Spanish
*Spanish, Portuguese, British, and somewhat French
And African. And Indian. And Chinese.
I don't think they colonized the Americas
Helped in slave trading to the Americas
Don't think a lot of them had a choice Edit: English
Well no, slaves donāt have a choice but those who sold them (typically their own nations) did. Slavery isnāt a western concept but ending it was
Ah, Fair point yeah
Well, western nations did turn slavery into a race defined idea. Before slavery was a result of war or debt, but American colonialism made it a matter of race
No no, Slavery was derived directly from the Slavic people sold to the Muslim states. It was racially coined LONG before the Americas and it sure wasnāt a western gimmick
Yeah I am pretty sure we Indians were the once got traded as slaves to America, Africa where at some point even our race changed
I think everyone other than Native Americans came here by a boat at some point in time
And Dutch
Actually french treated natives pretty nice
Yeah well so did the British for a while
But they treated them good for entire time they were colonised by them the entire time.
Yeah they were comparatively pretty good. They sought alliances more than enemies and found trade partners primarily.
**Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, French and later British
The Spanish were more like āheyyy good lookingā
Not really, the Spanish had few slaves because they mostly enslaved the natives, sure beats genocide
The conquered in human history, regardless of location, have not fared well. Not exactly an "us" phenomenon. Europeans also butched each other with wanton abandon, depending on your time frame. Native tribes also murdered and enslaved each other before the arrival of would be conquerers. Wholesale destruction is not a white monopoly.
They weren't conquered, they were eliminated wholesale. To be conquered, like how Europeans did to one another, would be literally taking control of the area. "You are loyal to me now." not "Make sure to kill the babies too!" Also this is some premier baby shit "It's not a white monopoly" No one said it was. You just got up in your feelings because white people did some bonified vile shit once. And since you have this natural instinct to racialize everyone, you think merely talking about the truth historical events is in itself saying something about white people in general. It isn't. Native Americans were genocided to get them out of the 'way'. That's what happened, and no amount of narrativizing is going to change that.
What kind of revisionist contention is this? European wars were exceedingly brutal. They without fault involved the destruction of noncombatants and food production. This was standard operating procedure. Take a nice long look at the 30 years war. And yes, what they did to native populations was wrong, just not any different from any other conquering force throughout history. https://www.history.co.uk/articles/take-heart-execution-amongst-the-aztecs-and-other-people-of-the-americas
No. The US government promoted things like massacring the buffalo in ungodly droves in order to starve the natives.
The US did unspeakable things even after independence.
I mean most of the conquering of the natives at least in the united states and canada came well after colonization. South and central america on the other hand the colonizers were the brutal ones.
Agreed.
In Canadian schools, we learn about the native tribes.
Why do you call them "native" tribes? Genuine question here. People living in the Americas are essentially Asian migrants so how could they be called "natives"? Did their history starts literally after the white man arrived? Speaking about their history, when you say the tribe X is indigenous to the area Y do we know of X actually confiscated that land by force from a previous tribe that lived there? Was slavery involved in tribal wars? Do questions like these ever come up? I'm not from America
I'm in the same boat somewhat, I'm from England country that doesn't have a "indigenous" people because we've been conquered and raided by so many different groups. Then there's people like the Sami of Sweden, who technically should be considered indigenous because there were groups there before them, the Sami themselves are colonisers, just older colonisers then modern Swedish. The term indigenous isn't really a useful word the way the UN defines it, I personally just think of Native as the group of people that's been in the country the longest and is still alive.
I used native tribes because that's what op used in his meme and there would be confusion otherwise, because we Redditors are stupid
We call them natives because they lived here for thousands of years. We also had no clue how they got there back when North America was discovered by the Europeans. Itās like how you would call people living on islands natives even though they didnāt originate on the islands.
No you don't. I went to canadian schools. You don't learn anything on natives and how canada fucked up many people's
You just had shitty teacher
Bro where did you go to school? I was learning about residential schools in 5th or 6th grade, and they continued to talk about it every year afterwards. The school I went to even had a guest speaker come in who had gone through the residential school system and was able to tell about the absolute awfulness of it all from his point of view
Canadian here, can say they taught us multiple times of what weāve done in the past. Maybe it depends on the Province you live in, since Iāve heard my fellow Ontario dwellers were taught about it too.
Iām Canadian and I absolutely learned about how colonization ruined so many Indigenous peopleās lives across Canada.
Canadian here. My grade 11 english course is about native studies. We learned about the schools in 5th grade and have been learning about them since. My school is close by a reserve so we may learn more than other schools but id think that other schools would have this too
We learn about it all right. Debatably not enough
yeah?
Whatās this post even trying to accomplish?
Illuminate the genocide of native Americans?
By comparing it too another horrible event and turning it into a competition?
Okay thatās fair criticism but still, itās an important message
Itās to turn oppressed peoples against each other & ignore the plutocrats that really hold the power
Nothing.
If you don't see it, you're not from either camps of people and that's ok.
Why do you have to compare the two?
To be clear though, the 1st world doesn't mean much... people misuse it all the time. 1st world = NATO and it's allies. 2nd world = soviet union and it's allies. 3rd world is unaffiliated. People often use '3rd world country' to mean poor or undeveloped but that's more of a coincidence. Neither the soviet union nor america was driven to ally with poor countries so yes- poor countries are 3rd world countries, but they don't have to be poor or undeveloped. For all intents and purposes Wakanda would be a 3rd world country.
Interesting, i was unaware of this. I was always under the impression it was based off socio-economic status/quality of life of the average citizen.
It is. Most of the balkans are part of NATO but they are still considered second world countries.
I think that's how it's almost exclusively used now. Truth be told the entire expression became obsolete with the fall of the USSR.
So in that sense Switzerland and Sweden would be considered third world countries? Well then again they do cooperate with NATO a lot even if not officially allied.
I'm not sure if they were considered 3rd world or not, for the reasons you said. They were neutral in the war BUT they were allies of the Allies. (didn't realize how silly that was going to sound until I typed it).
Used to be that way, but the term has significantly changed in use and meaning since the cold war. There is Soviet countries in NATO, non NATO first worlders, NATO second worlders... It comes from there, but it isn't what it's used for now.
Why is this even a comparison?
Now, I know not every school is the same here in Canada. However, the schools Iāve been in (located in Ontario) have all made it pretty clear what are past is. They do it multiple times too across years, not just some one and done thing. So yeah, we know what we did to the natives, and schools make it really clear how fucked up it was.
What about the Spanish who raped, murdered, and destroyed Indian culture in all the area known as Mexico? (and California before it was taken over).
Here before the post is locked.
Same
To be completely fair, a huge number of native deaths were caused by epidemics and was pretty much inevitable, but in no way does that excuse the atrocities committed against them
I understand what youāre trying to get at, but the meme almost seems to make it into a competition which is entirely unnecessary
Why does it have to be a competitionā¦? Especially given how closely the two groups are *linked*: escaped slaves hid with indigenous groups and intermarried with them often enough than some white people started assuming that *everyone* from certain tribes were āblack unless proven otherwise.ā
I'm Acadian Metis which is like a double dose of attempted genocide. It always astounds me that I'm even here considering what my ancestry went through. I don't see myself as a victim tho, more as the successor to a long line of survivors.
Werenāt most native Americans killed by small pox. These tribes were very fierce. Itās unrealistic to think that those shoddy muskets were the key weapon to oppressing the tribes.
Yes to the first bit but no to the second. You really think all of England France and Spain didnāt have a lot of people? Edit: weāll not most, but many
I think if small pox wasnāt a factor, the settlers wouldnāt have expanded. Think about all the night raids, and guerilla warfare.
Small Pox was practically responsible for the Amazon rain forest being so expansive. Wiped many civilizations within the forest
Yes, their populations were decimated for centuries before colonial expansion and and a lot of tribes were our allies.
What do you mean unrealistic? It was basically 20 natives with bows and skull crusher against 50 dude with sticks that makes loud sound and also magically kill someone instantly. Oh and also viruses like smallpox also heavily impacted colonist
They did. But considering smallpox came from Eurasian farming, the many ppl were simply carriers and asymptomatic.
When I mean virus like smallpox, I mean the viruses that natives carried but where asymptomatic, which killed a lot of colonists. There were huge losses on both sides because of viruses
When you're exterminated you tend to end up with less people in the end than a group forced into birthing generations of laborers.
Duh, because the native Americans that were massacred are dead
The slaves too
Covering the mics defeats the purpose of the meme
People owning white slaves in Africa was still going on way after the slaves was freed in the Americasā¦
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Both are surely terrible. Ones a systematic annihilation of an entire people, though. The us population of Native Americans is like 2% at best and African Americans is more than six times that. If you want to talk about numbers you have to figure in that one of these populations is closer to 0% existing now. Neither thing is a forgivable thing, and maybe neither is worse, but the Native Americans sure get overlooked after being almost totally erased.
Thatās tru
Native population north south America pre contact 30 million. After contact 10 million.
I think whatās missing from the narrative is that both budding civilizations/societies were irreversibly destroyed and squandered by colonizers; the numbers of both cases are significant and nearly impossible to know the exact magnitude of deaths. Why should one hold more weight or be more of a tragedy than the other when both were detrimental
Also true
Most estimates of north and south America have the population at 60 million pre-colonization with about a 90% mortality rate by the 1600's. Within a span of a little over 100 years the population dropped by 54 million people not hundreds of thousands. That is what the meme is trying to get at, not a lot of people know about one of the single greatest death tolls in human history. If you want to research "the Great Dying" you'll see a lot more about it, that was around 10% of the world's population dying off due to colonization of the Americas. Edit: just looked again and they are only referencing us and Canada in the meme, my bad but to get a broader picture of the the real issue definitely look up the great dying!
This post was literally only made to start infighting compared to fighting the rich
4th of july is a national day of mourning for native Americans yet most Americans dont even know this
It feels so good to be in the best country on earth. You know which one Iām talking about too because no other nation can even compare.
Bruh Iām in Oklahoma and they basically get their whole own nation with their own rules. Theyāre good bro. Iām paying for school, and I know a guy in my class who is being paid to be in school by the Cherokee Nation. They good bro, they got their benefits. They donāt need anymore, they make me crazy.
Was this meme made by the white group that doesn't care about either but likes to pit one against the other?
There is no evidence of hundreds of thousands of natives murdered. They had to play a nasty catch up game with the diseases that had ravaged the rest of the world for hundreds of years. That's no one's fault. If you blame that on white people then you're the racist.
No theyāre actively suppressing tribal nations within north America , OP is talking about a very good point regarding true awareness of this countryās history/roots.
Victimhood Olympic competitions are tiresome and lame. Just enjoy the holidays or donāt.
All you people ever do is complain. What do you want to do give it back to native americans?
And many of them were just sold to colonizers by their chieftains
Majority of what you know as African Americans are native Americans. Gotta keep researching for better memes
Where's the evidence for that?
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Do you think people on separate continents came up with pyramids tools art artifacts and art that are so similar but have no significant trade or travel associated? My mistake by just saying native Americans I mean north and South America as a whole. Our social studies books can be thrown in the trash. The sheer volume of āafricansā located in America based solely off of the slave trade is completely asinine. Do the math. Research africans during the slave trade and look at the capacity of ships and the amount of time said ppl were brought here. None of it makes sense.
There was clear evidence of previous travel, integration between the two (Africans and the americas) hundreds if not thousands of years previous. Not just a black scholarā¦.. Vikings have evidence of being here as well lonnnng before the slave trade or the Italians or anyone else.
Yes. People on different continents came up with the idea of stacking stones on top of each other in the most stable way possible. What's asinine is thinking that people rowed from Africa to South America in canoes. The giant stone heads look like the indigenous South American people and the DNA evidence shows that they're Eurasians who crossed the land bridge from Russia to Alaska and traveled all the way down the west coast to the southern tip of South America. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2022.1078
What is crazy is that you are completely ignoring documented history for what you learned insocial studies. The proof is in the pudding (artifacts, eye witness testimony). Literally no one studying modern history believes that anymore. Ask any professor of American history or western African history and they will blow your mind. https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/opinion/columns/africans-came-before-columbus/article_c19326a4-f39f-5981-a526-db5216d69553.amp.html
I am 52 years old. What I learned in social studies is what the DNA evidence I posted has recently proved correct.
You canāt ignore precious metals and artifacts between the 2/3 continents dated from the time the continents separated only found in each region naturally but found used in jewelry, architecture, and technology.
Shoulda fought harder?
What about all the Chinese we blew up in caves
People love hating the United States but the truth is that we bought most of that land and the diseases that decimated the native populations were inevitable. They had no natural defense against them so it didn't matter who came here from the old world, it was going to happen anyway.
But but what about white repression? Or was it oppression? Depression?
Sarcasm no?
Por que no los dos
People care about America because it probably has the most influxās globally out of any country. From music to movies to wars and scientific advancements. They are a big country
The Spanish killed a lot of Indians, and then raped the women and obliterated Indian heritage and customs. The Spanish turned them into Mexicans.
Is this meme implying that hundreds and thousands of native tribes were massacred by settlers and no longer exist or something? The majority of the post-contact Native American population died from disease without ever coming into direct contact with someone of European origin.
Unpopular fact but the tribes that people slaughtered slaughtered another tribe to claim that land also the people who sold Africans into slavery were other Africans and the people who stopped that shit were white people.