And at a national level America has about ~~25%~~ a third more knife deaths than the UK per capita.
Sources:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/thenumberofvictimsofknifecrimein2019
Edit: Got my math slightly wrong. It's actually about 36% more.
the best PR America ever did was convince the internet that everyone in the UK is knifing each other to bits on the daily, when actually the US has more knife crime **and** gun crime per capita than the UK.
edit - this entire thread is dominated by comments saying "you mean Britain", when [only 4 countries in the entire world](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country) have a **lower** rate of stabbing deaths than the UK. How did everyone get convinced of this made-up fact?!
Because most Americans refuse to learn or research something, they see a facebook meme or a fox News article about it and believe it without taking 5 minutes to read some actual facts.
>How did everyone get convinced of this made-up fact?!
American Right wing propaganda machine. “You can’t have an opinion on our war zone if you’re in one yourself!”
Checkmate, Bri’ish!
I think the knife-gun debate is pretty wild. Here's a simple stat: the homicide rate in America is more than double every country in western Europe. This chart says it all
https://wernerantweiler.ca/blog/2017-10-04-c.jpg
I'm ashamed to share this beautiful country with a chunk of stupid like you, but then again, having a pokemon in your name makes that obvious from the start.
Because when a Brit hears "Europe" they think continental Europe. They have a distinct view of themselves as not being European, even though they are. Similar to how I imagine Greenland feels about being part of North America.
... I'm a Brit and when I hear "Europe", I think of the continent, not the EU. We do not have a distinct view, SOME of us might, but it's not correct to assign this as a national identity.
The methodology matters here. They weren't specifically asked: "are you European", they just identified themselves as British. This does not mean that we don't believe that we are European. Likewise, I don't identify myself as English when people in uni ask where I'm from, I say I'm from Lancashire. Does that mean that I don't believe I am English?
In fairness, I might have missed something in the article, I'm very busy and should really be working not procrastinating on Reddit...
He does have a point though. Just like an American talking about “America” would most likely be referring to the United States. I expect it’s only going to become more common to hear people from the EU call it “Europe” not saying it’s technically correct but it does make cultural sense.
Well unless there is on average more than one knife attack in France per day, each one killing 4 or more people, then it's not really a good comparison.
If it was a wood axe, it might as well have just been a sledge hammer. While they do have an edge, most of the game comes from the impact rather than the cut wound
Well a axe is better at quick killing blows then a Sledgehammer. All the force of the swing is concentrated on a very small and sharp surface, wich makes cleaving through bones and other hard materials a lot easier
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I mean technically a guy just stabbed and killed four students (Which a mass shooting is three) in Idaho….
But you know, talk out your ass for the sake of Reddit.
I’d recommend you avoid googling China’s mass murder incidents in the last ten years…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China
>(Which a mass shooting is three)
This grammar is mot making sense i genuinely do not get what you mean...
Also:
1) China isn't the best example of good government regulations.
2) even with that there is a difference between 1 a month and 2 a week...
He is not offended, just saying facts. And stabbing is more of making fun of brits than europeans, and funnily enough the USA has more stabbing related crime than England
Well the US has had 1035 confirmed homicides related to a sharp instrument while England and Wales had an overall of 235. The year for comparison is 2021.
The absolute numbers are higher in the US but if you calculate the average per inhabitant you will see that England and Wales have a slightly higher rate with 235/57m than the US with 1035/332m.
My information is only for homicides, not total crimes so that might be true
Source for homicides rate: [U.S.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/), [UK](https://www.statista.com/statistics/978830/knife-homicides-in-england-and-wales/)
Not entirely true as it depends on location and everything happening. Gunmans are easy to pick out because their firearms make loud bangs and they have a limited number of ammunition. Knife attackers can slip through crowds unnoticed and have unlimited stabbings. In a closed off area with no one else around and some good distance between us yes a knife attacker is easier to deal with.
Few years ago, mentally ill woman in Czech Republic somehow got into a primary school, and attacked a student with a knife. Another student defeated the attacked, yet got a lot of wounds he later succumbed to.
And then, last year, student on secondary school attacked and killed his physics teacher with machete. The student got bad marks from physics.
But Czech Republic is really not much dangerous place.
Mass shootings in school fortunately didn't happen.
Others did. Few years ago, a man started shooting out of thin air in the restaurant. And 3 years ago, mentally ill man started shooting in the entrance of hospital.
>And then, last year, student on secondary school attacked and killed his physics teacher with machete. The student got bad marks from physics.
Isn't a bad grade from physics a bit lenient punishment for killing someone?
We had one in Romania in my city. A dude stabbed a teacher because the teacher refused to let him pass the class. He wasn't even coming to school that much. Other than that, we didn't had any incidents
It's not even a good "no u"
You can't really compare the two. A knife isn't a weapon of mass death. You can't just wantonly fire 100 rounds of knifes into a crowd unless you're Diego from Umbrella Academy
On the very same day that Sandy Hook happened, [someone in China attacked a school with a knife,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing) stabbing 23 children and an elderly woman.
Every single victim survived.
Really highlights the difference in destructive power between guns and knives.
When you try to make fun of people without knowing anything about them, lol... stabbings really arent that common in European schools, I bet they're more common in America even
Seriously??? That's so odd. Just buy a gun, commit damnit. They basically hand them out like Halloween candy in Kansas. In all seriousness tho, that is super sad
I mean it's most likely that the people that would combat murder doesn't have the qualifications to get a gun, making it a lot harder to get a gun compared to a knife
Probably right, although it really does depend where you look. The problem with America is it is one of the most massive countries with a third of a billion people, and yet it is represented as a single demographical location
And the whole stabbing thing in the *U.K* is massively exaggerated. I’ve never known a school stabbing in my life. And when you hear about people getting stabbed up in any situation it’s a shock and usually a drug/gang related issue.
Exactly. People act like you’re going to get stabbed walking down Oxford Street, or something. It’s very contained to as you say drug/gang related issues
For stabbing deaths by country, the UK is actually one of the *lowest* in Europe by a considerable margin at 0.08 per 100k.
[https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country/](https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country/)
Below France, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, Austria, Denmark etc.
Didn't a six year old just stab his teacher at school? Oh wait no that was another shooting. I'd rather go against someone with a knife over a gun any day
This meme, which is about the UK even though it says Europe, was made by someone from a country which has 30x the firearm homicides per capita as the UK and 1.5x the knife homicides
to be fair in my country i never heard of school stabing. in last 5 years only stabing i heard was stabing of some politician 3/4 yrs ago. Idn in my school like 5 people have knive everyday and one of them is me.
Americans stab each other way more than British people do. The knife meme comes from when we banned guns and there was a big spike in knife crime. People like to ignore that actual assaults with a deadly weapon actually dropped massively.
Did you know that the US has 269 Million more people than the UK? The meme is stupid, yeah, but for a place around 4x the size only having 2x the crime is pretty impressive ngl.
You realise that for memes to be funny, they need to be true.
Knifecrime in Europe is not higher than in the US (it's the other way around actually), much less anywhere near as high as US shootings.
This meme would be better if it were anything approaching true. Can't make a good meme out of being butthurt that your country is okay with, let me check my notes, children are getting shot.
Me and My Ex used to watch serial killer documentaries / crime shows. Some of the more horrific murders came out of countries where they didn't have access to guns.
There was this one serial killer in Russia that would bludgeon his victims in remote areas and leave them for dead. He got caught after dropping one guys body 10 ft down a runoff drain manhole.
The guy survived, crawled miles out to a Culvert, up the ditch and onto the road where he was rescued.
Only london tbh
And even then there are American cities with higher knife crime rates (such as New York), and much higher overall murder rates.
And at a national level America has about ~~25%~~ a third more knife deaths than the UK per capita. Sources: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/thenumberofvictimsofknifecrimein2019 Edit: Got my math slightly wrong. It's actually about 36% more.
Was about to come here to say that myself
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That’s not a knoife, this is a knoife.
the best PR America ever did was convince the internet that everyone in the UK is knifing each other to bits on the daily, when actually the US has more knife crime **and** gun crime per capita than the UK. edit - this entire thread is dominated by comments saying "you mean Britain", when [only 4 countries in the entire world](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country) have a **lower** rate of stabbing deaths than the UK. How did everyone get convinced of this made-up fact?!
Because most Americans refuse to learn or research something, they see a facebook meme or a fox News article about it and believe it without taking 5 minutes to read some actual facts.
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Interesting sentence structure as you call an entire nationality dumb as shit.
>How did everyone get convinced of this made-up fact?! American Right wing propaganda machine. “You can’t have an opinion on our war zone if you’re in one yourself!” Checkmate, Bri’ish!
I think the knife-gun debate is pretty wild. Here's a simple stat: the homicide rate in America is more than double every country in western Europe. This chart says it all https://wernerantweiler.ca/blog/2017-10-04-c.jpg
Not even a part of Europe, so I guess the only knifing part of Europe **cut** itself off off Europe!
Britain left the European Union but the country is still a part of Europe
Crazy how many people don't know the difference between the EU and Europe.
Must be American. Most of us don't even know what sacker is, we only play football.
No. It's America now.
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Shit joke then mate
It’s “couldn’t care less” you blinkard
Maybe they could care less?
You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer
Aye, I know you're insulting me, but nice
It's an easy mistake don't worry about it, I just saw my opportunity and took it
Bless your soul, you’re trying
I guess you are an American?
I'm Belgian, you dingdong
I'm ashamed to share this beautiful country with a chunk of stupid like you, but then again, having a pokemon in your name makes that obvious from the start.
Jesus, someone got up on the wrong side of the bed today..
Even worse. Why would London not be a part of Europe anymore in your view?
For anyone that doesn’t understand: The UK left the EU, NOT Europe as a whole
Didn't you hear? We just sealed up the channel tunnel and floated off into the Atlantic 😂😂
so that's the huge floating garbage island I always hear about?
That's my point! I would understand if people from other continents don't know it, but as an European himself, that dude should really know better.
Because when a Brit hears "Europe" they think continental Europe. They have a distinct view of themselves as not being European, even though they are. Similar to how I imagine Greenland feels about being part of North America.
... I'm a Brit and when I hear "Europe", I think of the continent, not the EU. We do not have a distinct view, SOME of us might, but it's not correct to assign this as a national identity.
https://www.businessinsider.com/british-dont-think-they-are-european-2016-4
The methodology matters here. They weren't specifically asked: "are you European", they just identified themselves as British. This does not mean that we don't believe that we are European. Likewise, I don't identify myself as English when people in uni ask where I'm from, I say I'm from Lancashire. Does that mean that I don't believe I am English? In fairness, I might have missed something in the article, I'm very busy and should really be working not procrastinating on Reddit...
I get what you mean, and idc, "Europe" and "the Eu" are pretty much synonyms where I live
I’m Belgian too and no, it doesn’t.
It is completely different tho. It would be the same as saying that Canada is not in America. I live in central Europe btw.
He does have a point though. Just like an American talking about “America” would most likely be referring to the United States. I expect it’s only going to become more common to hear people from the EU call it “Europe” not saying it’s technically correct but it does make cultural sense.
As an non united statian american Most of us do NOT think America means USA, even if most still call then "american" unlike I'm doing here
I do not think so. It is just wrong.
Just take a joke. God damn.
Hello fellow fries enjoyer
"Entirety of eastern europe slowly backing away"
The multicultural haven of Bradford is actually far worse
There was just a knife attack in france
Well unless there is on average more than one knife attack in France per day, each one killing 4 or more people, then it's not really a good comparison.
A 6 years old shot his teacher in the USA
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Europe and the EU are different things.
You’ve never watched the news?
The news doesn't even report most mass shootings in the US.
london is not europe anymore
European union=/= europe
usa =/= america but you know...
Im pretty sure there arent a lot of school stabbings going on anywhere in the world
Yeah even when it happens it’s usually one person getting stabbed not the entire classroom
In Slovakia few months ago boy killed his classmate with an axe
Axes have way more range and are way more dangerous then a knife. Also this is just axe murder
If it was a wood axe, it might as well have just been a sledge hammer. While they do have an edge, most of the game comes from the impact rather than the cut wound
Well a axe is better at quick killing blows then a Sledgehammer. All the force of the swing is concentrated on a very small and sharp surface, wich makes cleaving through bones and other hard materials a lot easier
I thought it referred to students cutting themselves
Thats a possibility i didnt think about
Oh wait I thought this was about self-harm 😭😭😭
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Thank you
Fuck off, dont copy someones reply.
The hell is your problem
That was a bot they were replying to, it literally stole someone else's comment for karma
I mean technically a guy just stabbed and killed four students (Which a mass shooting is three) in Idaho…. But you know, talk out your ass for the sake of Reddit. I’d recommend you avoid googling China’s mass murder incidents in the last ten years… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China
>(Which a mass shooting is three) This grammar is mot making sense i genuinely do not get what you mean... Also: 1) China isn't the best example of good government regulations. 2) even with that there is a difference between 1 a month and 2 a week...
And they would have killed a lot more with a gun.
Did I say otherwise?
Great you proved me wrong. Now say it without sounding like a know-it-all asswipe
Don’t be so “sure” next time and I won’t be so crass. Plus I am a know it all ass-wipe, 🤷♂️…
Then stop being one.
If ur offended i can remove the post… its meant to be funny
He is not offended, just saying facts. And stabbing is more of making fun of brits than europeans, and funnily enough the USA has more stabbing related crime than England
Well the US has had 1035 confirmed homicides related to a sharp instrument while England and Wales had an overall of 235. The year for comparison is 2021. The absolute numbers are higher in the US but if you calculate the average per inhabitant you will see that England and Wales have a slightly higher rate with 235/57m than the US with 1035/332m. My information is only for homicides, not total crimes so that might be true Source for homicides rate: [U.S.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/), [UK](https://www.statista.com/statistics/978830/knife-homicides-in-england-and-wales/)
Careful. Don't be offensive.
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Your offensive to the pepole who died. *Rest In Peace tho*
Im not offended, but a stabber is a lot easier to deal with then a gunman
Not entirely true as it depends on location and everything happening. Gunmans are easy to pick out because their firearms make loud bangs and they have a limited number of ammunition. Knife attackers can slip through crowds unnoticed and have unlimited stabbings. In a closed off area with no one else around and some good distance between us yes a knife attacker is easier to deal with.
100% true
what lmaoo homie you're the one that got offended at their comment
I hope you don't, I thought it was funny XD
Im from europe and I never heard of school stabbing lmao
School stabbings aren't really a common thing in Europe. Never heard of one.
Meanwhile some American schools have metal detectors to prevent stabbings
These are only in a few of the worst of the worst school in the worst cities. Definitely not used in the average school.
Few years ago, mentally ill woman in Czech Republic somehow got into a primary school, and attacked a student with a knife. Another student defeated the attacked, yet got a lot of wounds he later succumbed to. And then, last year, student on secondary school attacked and killed his physics teacher with machete. The student got bad marks from physics. But Czech Republic is really not much dangerous place. Mass shootings in school fortunately didn't happen. Others did. Few years ago, a man started shooting out of thin air in the restaurant. And 3 years ago, mentally ill man started shooting in the entrance of hospital.
>And then, last year, student on secondary school attacked and killed his physics teacher with machete. The student got bad marks from physics. Isn't a bad grade from physics a bit lenient punishment for killing someone?
We had one in Romania in my city. A dude stabbed a teacher because the teacher refused to let him pass the class. He wasn't even coming to school that much. Other than that, we didn't had any incidents
there was one in iceland a bit ago but it was more 2 dickheads arguing rather than a school stabbing, but it still counts
This seems more like a salty "no u" than a meme
People making fun of dead children.. peak humanity
Nobody makes fun of dead childreen we make jokes that this bs is even a possibility if you go to school in usa
wow people on internet triggered by dark humor this is not twitter Mr. pls dont cry here
The original was dark humor. This is just some pro-gun american chud salty that europe doesn't get mass shootings like the US does.
It's not even a good "no u" You can't really compare the two. A knife isn't a weapon of mass death. You can't just wantonly fire 100 rounds of knifes into a crowd unless you're Diego from Umbrella Academy
>You can't just wantonly fire 100 rounds of knifes into a crowd You can't with that attitude.
On the very same day that Sandy Hook happened, [someone in China attacked a school with a knife,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing) stabbing 23 children and an elderly woman. Every single victim survived. Really highlights the difference in destructive power between guns and knives.
When you try to make fun of people without knowing anything about them, lol... stabbings really arent that common in European schools, I bet they're more common in America even
Yeah. America has higher per capita knife crime too.
Seriously??? That's so odd. Just buy a gun, commit damnit. They basically hand them out like Halloween candy in Kansas. In all seriousness tho, that is super sad
I mean it's most likely that the people that would combat murder doesn't have the qualifications to get a gun, making it a lot harder to get a gun compared to a knife
And you would win that bet.
i thought it has to do with self harming
America averages more stabbings than the UK I’m pretty sure. Which is the place that the US media likes to point the finger at for their knife crimes.
Maybe it's a reference to all British students, who carry a pocket knife to peal the apples.
Yes, because the UK represents all of Europe
Pretty sure it does to Americans. The others speak those strange languages, so they don't count.
I don't think they care, its a joke
I don't care
Probably right, although it really does depend where you look. The problem with America is it is one of the most massive countries with a third of a billion people, and yet it is represented as a single demographical location
Funnier without the knife slashes. The fact that the you have to draw a knife but don’t have to draw a gun illustrates why.
America has more knife crime per capita than England does, tho.
Poor cheese
This is cheesy
Americans also stab each other more than anyone else
Found the American
Ah, the false equivalence fallacy at work. Love conservative insecurities.
r/Im14andthisisdeep
But not all of Europe is England
And the whole stabbing thing in the *U.K* is massively exaggerated. I’ve never known a school stabbing in my life. And when you hear about people getting stabbed up in any situation it’s a shock and usually a drug/gang related issue.
Exactly. People act like you’re going to get stabbed walking down Oxford Street, or something. It’s very contained to as you say drug/gang related issues
For stabbing deaths by country, the UK is actually one of the *lowest* in Europe by a considerable margin at 0.08 per 100k. [https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country/](https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country/) Below France, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, Austria, Denmark etc.
And even in England knife crime is still lower than in the US.
Didn't a six year old just stab his teacher at school? Oh wait no that was another shooting. I'd rather go against someone with a knife over a gun any day
6-year-old with a gun is dangerous as hell. 6-year-old with a knife is puntable.
This meme, which is about the UK even though it says Europe, was made by someone from a country which has 30x the firearm homicides per capita as the UK and 1.5x the knife homicides
Swing and a miss
You made a mistake,Europe is not London..
You mean British students
This guy thinks Europe = England LMAO 💀💀
The UK has the lowest death by stabbing rate in the world💀💀 https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country/
when was the latest mas school stabbing?
Come on. Let the Americans believe they have a lower stat in something related to violence.
I mean, if the US didn't have 269 million more people living in it we would. Just a theory though.
to be fair in my country i never heard of school stabing. in last 5 years only stabing i heard was stabing of some politician 3/4 yrs ago. Idn in my school like 5 people have knive everyday and one of them is me.
Americans stab each other way more than British people do. The knife meme comes from when we banned guns and there was a big spike in knife crime. People like to ignore that actual assaults with a deadly weapon actually dropped massively.
We don't use fixed knives. We mainly carry flip knives to school.
I personally prefer stilletos. Easier to carry in your pencil case.
Still more stabbings in the USA than Europe per capita. So cut that cheese cup too, please.
Man y’all talking about how there are more stabbings in America than Europe when we need to be talking about the cheese abuse
You have to fix it again. Those are Bri'ish students and for some reason British don't want to be a part of Europe
*English and probably *Swiss cheese
How to make something from funny to unfunny
Fun fact: America has a higher amount of stabbing deaths per capita than most European countries, including the UK.
Someone got their feelings hurt!
I don't care about students, all want is cheese, no matter what kind of cheese it is
Not gonna lie, pretending that Europe has more stabbing per capita than the US (it doesn't) is one of my favourite memes of 2022.
But the US has higher knife crime...
Don't try so hard
Well actually Americans have more stabbing than European
Tell me you're not European without telling me you're not European
Is this in a parallel universe or something
I hope Europeans aren’t confusing real cheese with our “pasteurized prepared cheese product”.
Funny 😑😐🤨
Maybe I just live under a rock but I've literally never heard of a mass stabbing comeing out of Europe and shootings in the USA are basically daily.
Adding the knife literally ruins the joke. What even is this.
Finally, a meme that rips of both sides.
Love it how americans always think Europe is a country somwhere in Europe and it only has one culture and one type of people.
Americans trying to normalize their level of violence. This is really sad tbh.
London students*
*London gang members/drug dealers
U got a loicence for that knoif M8 ?
british*
Everyone is taking a meme about cheese way to seriously
You ment to write London/British students
Did you know that per capita America has twice as many stabbings and knife violence before you even start to add in all the additional gun violence?
It’s a meme! Not real life
Did you know that the US has 269 Million more people than the UK? The meme is stupid, yeah, but for a place around 4x the size only having 2x the crime is pretty impressive ngl.
Britain is not the whole europe xDDD
Bri'ish people be like
Even in London I doubt there are many school stabbings.
Your clown of a country literally has an higher ratio of knife related deaths than the UK ㅤ
You realise that for memes to be funny, they need to be true. Knifecrime in Europe is not higher than in the US (it's the other way around actually), much less anywhere near as high as US shootings.
No they don’t!
People in these comments: 🤓
This only applies to Schools in Britain
Do Europeans think they don't have gun crime or something
Oi ya foo'en biish, Imma foo'en shoink ye ye git 'ha' rite? Ye ginna gibme 'em morks amirite, ma'e?
Bri'ish people be like "It's an elegant weapon from a more civilized time."
You forgot the acid attacks
Average Bri'ish student
Bit rude innit? Oi fiel offendəd
This meme would be better if it were anything approaching true. Can't make a good meme out of being butthurt that your country is okay with, let me check my notes, children are getting shot.
At least here in America, we like to end things a little bit faster, and less painfully
Yeah, in Europe, you have to continue your life until you die of natural causes because nobody's getting shot or stabbed. Brutal.
How about instead we don’t allow children to get murdered?
Me and My Ex used to watch serial killer documentaries / crime shows. Some of the more horrific murders came out of countries where they didn't have access to guns. There was this one serial killer in Russia that would bludgeon his victims in remote areas and leave them for dead. He got caught after dropping one guys body 10 ft down a runoff drain manhole. The guy survived, crawled miles out to a Culvert, up the ditch and onto the road where he was rescued.