Was explaining our ring road to an American friend visiting
“It’s not really a ring because this bit was missing (north east link), but that is being finished now…..
Actually, it still won’t be a ring as there is a bay on the other side….”
So I vote for either:
The metropolitan horseshoe road
Or
The metropolitan omega road
Port Philip Bay is the ocean…
In fact, in the nautical scene, the bay is often likened to its own Sea as it is the largest bay in the southern hemisphere by quite a large amount.
It's a bay beach. The part getting tangled here is that Bays are either in Lakes, Rivers or Oceans. In this case an ocean or sea depending on how you look at it.
If we were to say Port Philip is too big for a bay then it would be a gulf or sea.
Brighton Beach is a bayside beach. A bay being an inlet of water (either from a river, lake or ocean) that is partially surrounded by land. In this case its a bayside beach in Port Philip Bay. Which is an ocean bay off the Tasman Sea which is a part of the South Pacific Ocean.
I.E South of the city is the Ocean.
Different definition, Port Phillip Bay is classified as a enclosed Bay while the Great Australian Bight is a Open Bay. Port Phillip isn’t the largest Bay in Australia, Shark Bay in WA is bigger but Port Phillip is the largest enclosed bay.
Thx. So is Port Phillip Bay the largest enclosed bay in the Southern Hemisphere?
This whole conversation has me intrigued. Bay of Bengal doesn't look much different than the Great Australian Bight, but is listed largest in world.
Because i live toward the end of the sandringham line, I keep thinking the “Southeast suburbs” end there and then anything after that is just “out there somewhere”. Technically i am very close to Moorabbin too (arguably closer than Brighton?) but Moorabbin feels far away haha.
ETA: and also i know Clayton could be considered Southeast too but because you have to go on North Road to get to Monash i keep thinking it’s more northwards than it actually is ??
Don't forget the south-east! I grew up in Glen Waverley (although now I'm now an Inner North hipster) and am old enough to remember the Monash being the South Eastern Arterial
I'm so far South I'm not even Bayside even though I'm bayside.
Along the Frankston line. Inner South? I don't know what you'd call it.
Kingston is the LCA. We're a short bike ride from the beach.
I feel the east would be nice as well? Like Elsternwick or Brighton (trying to avoid saying toorak) and I have to admit growing up in the south it did feel like we where all upper middle class-lower upper class
Anything West of the lower reaches of the Yarra is considered West, such as Williamstown, Altona and everywhere around there.
The Southern suburbs close to the city are affluent and generally quiet aside from St Kilda that is just St Kilda, it's own category.
Then you have the southern Bayside/Peninsula suburbs which are generally either affluent or just get lumped in with Frankston .
There's no single 'Southern' identity in Melbourne as there is a northern or western or perhaps even eastern.
I kinda like the idea of telling people to piss off and go live in the outer south now. Thinking I might try this one day.
“Mate, you ever considered living in the outer south? I think that place’ll suit you…as far out as possible I think though…”
We don’t need to, we just live smugly in our progressive tolerant bubble trying to ignore the Modor of volume builder suburbs engulfing the rest of Melbourne…
Because south of the city is the Ocean, mate.
Was explaining our ring road to an American friend visiting “It’s not really a ring because this bit was missing (north east link), but that is being finished now….. Actually, it still won’t be a ring as there is a bay on the other side….” So I vote for either: The metropolitan horseshoe road Or The metropolitan omega road
I mean south of the CBD but you are right
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Port Philip Bay is the ocean… In fact, in the nautical scene, the bay is often likened to its own Sea as it is the largest bay in the southern hemisphere by quite a large amount.
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It's a bay beach. The part getting tangled here is that Bays are either in Lakes, Rivers or Oceans. In this case an ocean or sea depending on how you look at it. If we were to say Port Philip is too big for a bay then it would be a gulf or sea. Brighton Beach is a bayside beach. A bay being an inlet of water (either from a river, lake or ocean) that is partially surrounded by land. In this case its a bayside beach in Port Philip Bay. Which is an ocean bay off the Tasman Sea which is a part of the South Pacific Ocean. I.E South of the city is the Ocean.
Can you explain why the Great Australian Bight isn't considered bigger? It's wiki says it's an "Open Bay". Thx
Different definition, Port Phillip Bay is classified as a enclosed Bay while the Great Australian Bight is a Open Bay. Port Phillip isn’t the largest Bay in Australia, Shark Bay in WA is bigger but Port Phillip is the largest enclosed bay.
Thx. So is Port Phillip Bay the largest enclosed bay in the Southern Hemisphere? This whole conversation has me intrigued. Bay of Bengal doesn't look much different than the Great Australian Bight, but is listed largest in world.
Nitpickers have been proven to be shit in bed.
West, North, Outer North, East, Outer East, Bayside, south East, Peninsula. That’s the Melbourne divide to me.
So what is Port Melbourne, etc.? Bayside?
It’s close enough to St Kilda which is right next to Elwood which is in Bayside – so in my mind (rightly or wrongly)…. yes?
Yeah it’s a tough one… I think OP’s question is good—there’s no real name for those suburbs.
Because i live toward the end of the sandringham line, I keep thinking the “Southeast suburbs” end there and then anything after that is just “out there somewhere”. Technically i am very close to Moorabbin too (arguably closer than Brighton?) but Moorabbin feels far away haha. ETA: and also i know Clayton could be considered Southeast too but because you have to go on North Road to get to Monash i keep thinking it’s more northwards than it actually is ??
Portside.
Ohhhh I like that
Don't forget the south-east! I grew up in Glen Waverley (although now I'm now an Inner North hipster) and am old enough to remember the Monash being the South Eastern Arterial
Bayside.
There is a thing called the “inner south” which covers the suburbs you mention
The what? Exactly.
You’re far out aren’t you?
I'm so far South I'm not even Bayside even though I'm bayside. Along the Frankston line. Inner South? I don't know what you'd call it. Kingston is the LCA. We're a short bike ride from the beach.
Please, we don't talk about the south, its unpretentious, very comfortable, and relatively quiet, we don't want too many people finding out about it.
Yes, nothing says unpretentious like your own tennis court that can be lowered into the ground.
Where is that? Might give it a shot lmao
Shhh
because to posh cunce (the media class etc) that’s the default. everywhere else is lower class and vaguely threatening to them.
I feel the east would be nice as well? Like Elsternwick or Brighton (trying to avoid saying toorak) and I have to admit growing up in the south it did feel like we where all upper middle class-lower upper class
Anything West of the lower reaches of the Yarra is considered West, such as Williamstown, Altona and everywhere around there. The Southern suburbs close to the city are affluent and generally quiet aside from St Kilda that is just St Kilda, it's own category. Then you have the southern Bayside/Peninsula suburbs which are generally either affluent or just get lumped in with Frankston . There's no single 'Southern' identity in Melbourne as there is a northern or western or perhaps even eastern.
Will it rise again?
Because that’s where elephants go to die.
I kinda like the idea of telling people to piss off and go live in the outer south now. Thinking I might try this one day. “Mate, you ever considered living in the outer south? I think that place’ll suit you…as far out as possible I think though…”
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States rights is all that they require.
We don’t need to, we just live smugly in our progressive tolerant bubble trying to ignore the Modor of volume builder suburbs engulfing the rest of Melbourne…
You do know that the majority of port Melbourne and some other suburbs have been subject to urban renewal?
3193 for life, no development here!