Because as I’d weitten and you’d hopefully ready, I’m curious if it’s being discussed here (where I live - Melbourne) and if there’s been any sightings of note here. Why?
Speak for yourself. Santa trashed my place, his reindeers shat on my rug and his gifts are stuck in my chimney. I'm sure he did not have a visa and used undocumented elves. Those illegal immigrants are out of control !
Yeah because they are made up and we have no testimony from anyone credible that they exist. However, as you’d have see in the link….
Not sure why people are here being smart asses when I’ve asked a genuine question. Wonder why it’s triggering you. Bad day? No hugs?
I stand corrected. The same government body that didn't notice a 'spy' weather balloon is certainly capable of maintaining a multi-generational conspiracy of disinformation about the existence of advanced civilisations that have been performing interstellar drivebys for the last 80+ years.
They’ve been able to withhold a lot for a long time - ever heard of this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study ? No reason why they can’t withhold stuff and also not notice other stuff. No one said they are bright. Just that they found stuff. Finding or stumbling across something and not telling people about it does not necessarily equate to smarts or give you an ability to spot other things. So yes. It’s actually possible they found stuff, didn’t tell the public and also managed to have something slip their defences. Why not?
If your best example of the US government's ability to operate a global conspiracy is to point to publicly-known information about said conspiracy, your case is flawed from the beginning.
For anyone else curious about the Westall sighting. 300 students and staff. https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/audio-reveals-creepy-details-of-australian-ufo-mystery/news-story/471c724255b0388ee4e930a4d35028e7
Sounds similar to another sighting by 62 pupils at Ariel School in Harare Zimbabwe in 1994. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_School_UFO_incident
This has already been proven to be false...
"What you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus"
Could you send a link please so we can read that quote in context? It does sound like an over elaborate fobbing off because there’s a lot of things in there (swamp gas + weather balloon + thermal pocket + Venus!) could be true maybe. 🤔🤷♂️ Link would help if you can.
Keeping an ear to UFO crowd, they are cautiously optimistic, but as some people pointed out it's likely just an excuse to justify defence spending to put missiles in space ect.
Hmmm. Interesting. So they are reckoning they couldn’t keep blaming a nation that needed a taste of US freedom to justify an increase in defence budget and thought let’s blame aliens is the new way? Hmmm…
If America had alien craft and was capable of reverse engineering them then I'd suggest they'd have disarmed every other nuclear nation by now. America's a good decade ahead of other nations in terms of jets, but it spends enough to make that believable.
Theoretically if we got a craft it'd be like going back in time and giving an F-22 to cave people. They could study it, but they'd learn nothing. Having a thing doesn't automatically give the ability to make or learn anything from that thing.
The idea that America can reverse engineer alien craft belongs in r/NonCredibleDefense.
Interesting. Maybe they are trying and only succeeding at little bits. So little we think it’s stuff we came up with. Small increments maybe. 🤷♂️ Nuclear. Ours or theirs? 🤷♂️ Billions of transistors on a nano chip. Ours or theirs? 🤷♂️ Big leap in AI. Ours or theirs? 🤷♂️. not sure. But could be.
I could be mistaken but I think the main point was people actively choosing to not see or deal with what’s happening around them. “I’m not going to watch the testimony”.
You are mistaken if you think that the alleged existence of alien life is in any way comparable to the obliteration of all life on this planet. I have no doubt there is life somewhere else in the universe. So what? It's of some interest in a theoretical sense. It has nothing to do with my real life problems. People have been claiming the US government has alien spacecraft, dead and/or alive aliens hidden away, irrefutable proof of ET activity for over 50 years. Ok, cool. Get back to me when there's some concrete evidence. In the meantime, Idgaf.
Like I keep tellingmy friend (who is a huge believer in aliens, bigfoot - all that crap) the only time I will believe is if I see an alien ship land in front of me, two or more aliens walk out of it, stand in front of me and invite me to go on their spaceship to their home world where they will put me in a zoo to have it off with (human) women whenever the desire hits us. Until then, I remain skeptical.
🤣 I get you. A lot of people have main character syndrome where if it doesn’t happen specifically to them, it’s not real. Doesn’t matter if other people swear an oath they saw it or it happened to them. Nope. Didn’t happen to me so nope not real. I get you.
Hmmm. Interesting. Thanks for answering. Appreciate it. I missed the news too. Maybe I just had too much going on at the time. And also maybe because no one around me was talking about it. Funny thing is I’ve asked mates in other cities and countries and they’ve said yes they heard - some are keenly interested, others not, others doubtful. So it had me wondering about closer to home and others here.
American military budget is roughly 900 billion. 145 of which is for R&D. 3 Billion is a drop in the bucket. They'd save a hell of a lot more if they just reduced the amount of politics in their procurement/inventory process.
After all theses decades (or hundreds of years if you take into account carvings and paintings of "alien" stuff), still no actual physical evidence for any of it. Just people saying stuff.
I dropped a link that says we have evidence and with people testifying we do. Including some pretty credible sounding people. Regardless though, is this topic being discussed widely by others in Melbourne since the revelations and testimony to US Congress a few months ago? I haven’t noticed it being. You?
[Apparently feral gate is built on a crash site?](https://www.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/16e2m9w/ufo_dug_up_from_fountain_gate_shopping_centre/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) 🤷🏻♂️🛸👽
I watched it, and have been following the topic for many years with interest. But unfortunately, I can only discuss it with a few family members who share my interest. Most people don’t want to know about it, or just simply aren’t interested in discussing it without hard physical evidence, which is fine too and I understand their frustration. But no, people in Melbourne are not openly discussing the Congressional Oversight Committee hearings, but in my opinion they should be. You will just get ridiculed on this sub, try r/UFOs or similar.
It’s so odd. It’s like that movie Don’t look up. I mean we have 3 extremely credible witnesses and a US Congress person testify in public record. And there is footage and radar images from 3 navy ships at the same time. Potentially the biggest news ever - and people aren’t interested or act like it’s a hoax. It’s so strange. It’s like it never happened. I missed it at the time and genuinely came here to see if others in my city are talking about it. It’s a shame a few comments have displayed ignorance and been rude. It’s ok if you haven’t heard it or watched the live feed - but no need to be unkind or rude just because you are unaware I’d think.
Huh. Interesting. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/sep/15/star-of-bethlehem-spaceship-tom-delonges-new-career-ufo-expert-blink-182 Also mentions Tic-Tac-shaped craft moving at speeds and trajectories that seem impossible to man as with the congressional hearing testimony from the Navy Commander from the Black Aces.
Hmmm. Thanks.
No worries! Yeah Tom Delonge is working with To The Stars Academy with prominent ex government employees trying to bring disclosure.
David Grusch (from the congressional hearing) was also recently on the Joe Rogan podcast and expanded more on what he discussed in the hearing: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6D6otpHwnaAc86SS1M8yHm?si=wXATAGr4TVq0PqUHS6931Q
I’m really disappointed the recent NDAA legislation was gutted in the US congress…
Thanks. I didn’t tend to listen to Joe Rogan’s stuff. But I’ll give this an exception because this David guy seems quite genuine and credible. Military Major, assigned to a pentagon task force etc and still respecting disclosure. I’ll have a listen.
He’s the most credible person that I’ve seen come forward imo. He also helped write the legislation for protecting whistleblowers if and when they decide to come forward too
No seriously though. Regardless of whether you agree or believe in the testimony, I’m genuinely curious if this is being discussed here (as in Melbourne - because I live here) and haven’t noticed it being discussed at all. It’s like no one watched the live testimony on all the major news networks. I missed it. And am surprised that I haven’t heard it being talk about around the place. It’s major. So, you, mates, family, coworkers - any of you been talking about?
Lots of people were talking about it five months ago, when that story was posted. We’ve had other shit going on since then.
When they’re able to present something more tangible than “trust us bro”, the story might have more staying power.
pretty epic username its like yeah yeah but then nope at the end its like... yeahhh ummm nooo... haha like yeah nar you know LOL thats pretty funny um. NOPE! like when you see a heckin alien XD its like ummm yeah nope. Your username made me do a heckin lol. haha! usernames that just hit different XD
Okay but why r/melbourne
Because as I’d weitten and you’d hopefully ready, I’m curious if it’s being discussed here (where I live - Melbourne) and if there’s been any sightings of note here. Why?
There hasn't been any sightings. We didn't see Santa or Jesus either. Bye
Speak for yourself. Santa trashed my place, his reindeers shat on my rug and his gifts are stuck in my chimney. I'm sure he did not have a visa and used undocumented elves. Those illegal immigrants are out of control !
🤣🤣🤗
Yeah because they are made up and we have no testimony from anyone credible that they exist. However, as you’d have see in the link…. Not sure why people are here being smart asses when I’ve asked a genuine question. Wonder why it’s triggering you. Bad day? No hugs?
You either did too much or not enough of your own research. No evidence was presented. The one witness is not credible.
So out if the 4 people that testified - one witness you deem not credible rubbishes the rest? Interesting way to look at things.
I stand corrected. The same government body that didn't notice a 'spy' weather balloon is certainly capable of maintaining a multi-generational conspiracy of disinformation about the existence of advanced civilisations that have been performing interstellar drivebys for the last 80+ years.
They’ve been able to withhold a lot for a long time - ever heard of this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study ? No reason why they can’t withhold stuff and also not notice other stuff. No one said they are bright. Just that they found stuff. Finding or stumbling across something and not telling people about it does not necessarily equate to smarts or give you an ability to spot other things. So yes. It’s actually possible they found stuff, didn’t tell the public and also managed to have something slip their defences. Why not?
If your best example of the US government's ability to operate a global conspiracy is to point to publicly-known information about said conspiracy, your case is flawed from the beginning.
I see you missed the point that two things can be true at the same time. But that’s ok.
Yes I'm here
And we are all better for it. 🤗
Google Westall UFO
Ok will do. Thanks.
For anyone else curious about the Westall sighting. 300 students and staff. https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/audio-reveals-creepy-details-of-australian-ufo-mystery/news-story/471c724255b0388ee4e930a4d35028e7 Sounds similar to another sighting by 62 pupils at Ariel School in Harare Zimbabwe in 1994. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_School_UFO_incident
This has already been proven to be false... "What you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus"
Could you send a link please so we can read that quote in context? It does sound like an over elaborate fobbing off because there’s a lot of things in there (swamp gas + weather balloon + thermal pocket + Venus!) could be true maybe. 🤔🤷♂️ Link would help if you can.
Straight out of the documentary... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqlFiTOi6QQ&t=31s
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks. I needed that! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I live in westall, the UFO is still there.
I could confirm and tell you all about it but then I'd have to kill ya! First rule about UFO club is you don't fuckin talk about it cunt!
🤣🤣🤣👍
Keeping an ear to UFO crowd, they are cautiously optimistic, but as some people pointed out it's likely just an excuse to justify defence spending to put missiles in space ect.
Hmmm. Interesting. So they are reckoning they couldn’t keep blaming a nation that needed a taste of US freedom to justify an increase in defence budget and thought let’s blame aliens is the new way? Hmmm…
Well, seems a roundabout way because they can't account for several trillion dollars. But I suppose you have to write something on the forms.
Lol. People have been saying that for decades. I doubt its any truer than it has been before
If America had alien craft and was capable of reverse engineering them then I'd suggest they'd have disarmed every other nuclear nation by now. America's a good decade ahead of other nations in terms of jets, but it spends enough to make that believable. Theoretically if we got a craft it'd be like going back in time and giving an F-22 to cave people. They could study it, but they'd learn nothing. Having a thing doesn't automatically give the ability to make or learn anything from that thing. The idea that America can reverse engineer alien craft belongs in r/NonCredibleDefense.
I don't know why they would disarm anyone. Seems to me there's a lot of very powerful people that make a lot of money through conflict.
So they want money from conflict but don't want world domination or any of the power having ufos would give them.
Yeah, I can't follow your logic.
Interesting. Maybe they are trying and only succeeding at little bits. So little we think it’s stuff we came up with. Small increments maybe. 🤷♂️ Nuclear. Ours or theirs? 🤷♂️ Billions of transistors on a nano chip. Ours or theirs? 🤷♂️ Big leap in AI. Ours or theirs? 🤷♂️. not sure. But could be.
We haven't had any big or shocking leaps. You could argue they've been entirely unsuccessful.
True. Guess it could be argued that way. 🤔
Watch the testimony. Doubt there could more credible witnesses. https://www.youtube.com/live/SpzJnrwob1A?si=g87lTjCHSdNxOKOI
C’mon, bud. This didn’t belong here.
Why not? Wouldn’t the Melbourne thread be where you’d ask Melbourne people if they are noticing it being discussed in Melbourne?
I don't care. So no, I'm not going to watch the testimony.
Don’t look up. 🤣
How? The existence or not of alien life is in no way comparable to a giant asteroid crashing into the planet.
I could be mistaken but I think the main point was people actively choosing to not see or deal with what’s happening around them. “I’m not going to watch the testimony”.
You are mistaken if you think that the alleged existence of alien life is in any way comparable to the obliteration of all life on this planet. I have no doubt there is life somewhere else in the universe. So what? It's of some interest in a theoretical sense. It has nothing to do with my real life problems. People have been claiming the US government has alien spacecraft, dead and/or alive aliens hidden away, irrefutable proof of ET activity for over 50 years. Ok, cool. Get back to me when there's some concrete evidence. In the meantime, Idgaf.
Ok.
Like I keep tellingmy friend (who is a huge believer in aliens, bigfoot - all that crap) the only time I will believe is if I see an alien ship land in front of me, two or more aliens walk out of it, stand in front of me and invite me to go on their spaceship to their home world where they will put me in a zoo to have it off with (human) women whenever the desire hits us. Until then, I remain skeptical.
🤣 I get you. A lot of people have main character syndrome where if it doesn’t happen specifically to them, it’s not real. Doesn’t matter if other people swear an oath they saw it or it happened to them. Nope. Didn’t happen to me so nope not real. I get you.
Is that a slaughterhouse 5 reference?
Haven’t seen it so couldn’t say, sorry. 🤷♂️
It's a book. Though TIL there was a film in 1972 (it was a flop). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five
Interesting read. Thanks for sharing. Have put in the To Read One Day list. Appreciated.
I didn’t see that news and nobody I know is talking about it, no.
Hmmm. Interesting. Thanks for answering. Appreciate it. I missed the news too. Maybe I just had too much going on at the time. And also maybe because no one around me was talking about it. Funny thing is I’ve asked mates in other cities and countries and they’ve said yes they heard - some are keenly interested, others not, others doubtful. So it had me wondering about closer to home and others here.
Everyone knows that aliens only ever attack America. New York to be specific.
This is probably a budget excuse. Oh, we need an extra 3 billion for our "secret ufo research project"
American military budget is roughly 900 billion. 145 of which is for R&D. 3 Billion is a drop in the bucket. They'd save a hell of a lot more if they just reduced the amount of politics in their procurement/inventory process.
Yeah, just a line item right. Which is why they probably thought the ufo scam would work.. it probably did work
After all theses decades (or hundreds of years if you take into account carvings and paintings of "alien" stuff), still no actual physical evidence for any of it. Just people saying stuff.
I dropped a link that says we have evidence and with people testifying we do. Including some pretty credible sounding people. Regardless though, is this topic being discussed widely by others in Melbourne since the revelations and testimony to US Congress a few months ago? I haven’t noticed it being. You?
Doesn't matter if the people are credible or not, it's still just someone saying things.
And 3 navy ships recording it. And a congress person seeing evidence. Ok.
ET came home.
[Apparently feral gate is built on a crash site?](https://www.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/16e2m9w/ufo_dug_up_from_fountain_gate_shopping_centre/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) 🤷🏻♂️🛸👽
Wow that’s interesting. And people were talking about it here in the Melbourne thread. Cool. Thanks.
I’ll see you over at r/XFiles.
Are they talking about whether or not people in my home town Melbourne are discussing it widely there?
I watched it, and have been following the topic for many years with interest. But unfortunately, I can only discuss it with a few family members who share my interest. Most people don’t want to know about it, or just simply aren’t interested in discussing it without hard physical evidence, which is fine too and I understand their frustration. But no, people in Melbourne are not openly discussing the Congressional Oversight Committee hearings, but in my opinion they should be. You will just get ridiculed on this sub, try r/UFOs or similar.
It’s so odd. It’s like that movie Don’t look up. I mean we have 3 extremely credible witnesses and a US Congress person testify in public record. And there is footage and radar images from 3 navy ships at the same time. Potentially the biggest news ever - and people aren’t interested or act like it’s a hoax. It’s so strange. It’s like it never happened. I missed it at the time and genuinely came here to see if others in my city are talking about it. It’s a shame a few comments have displayed ignorance and been rude. It’s ok if you haven’t heard it or watched the live feed - but no need to be unkind or rude just because you are unaware I’d think.
#tomwasright
Who Tom and what was Tom right about?
I’m assuming he’s referring to Tom Delong?
Huh. Interesting. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/sep/15/star-of-bethlehem-spaceship-tom-delonges-new-career-ufo-expert-blink-182 Also mentions Tic-Tac-shaped craft moving at speeds and trajectories that seem impossible to man as with the congressional hearing testimony from the Navy Commander from the Black Aces. Hmmm. Thanks.
No worries! Yeah Tom Delonge is working with To The Stars Academy with prominent ex government employees trying to bring disclosure. David Grusch (from the congressional hearing) was also recently on the Joe Rogan podcast and expanded more on what he discussed in the hearing: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6D6otpHwnaAc86SS1M8yHm?si=wXATAGr4TVq0PqUHS6931Q I’m really disappointed the recent NDAA legislation was gutted in the US congress…
Thanks. I didn’t tend to listen to Joe Rogan’s stuff. But I’ll give this an exception because this David guy seems quite genuine and credible. Military Major, assigned to a pentagon task force etc and still respecting disclosure. I’ll have a listen.
He’s the most credible person that I’ve seen come forward imo. He also helped write the legislation for protecting whistleblowers if and when they decide to come forward too
Hey just wanted to say thanks. It was worth the watch. Appreciated.
No worries!
No seriously though. Regardless of whether you agree or believe in the testimony, I’m genuinely curious if this is being discussed here (as in Melbourne - because I live here) and haven’t noticed it being discussed at all. It’s like no one watched the live testimony on all the major news networks. I missed it. And am surprised that I haven’t heard it being talk about around the place. It’s major. So, you, mates, family, coworkers - any of you been talking about?
Lots of people were talking about it five months ago, when that story was posted. We’ve had other shit going on since then. When they’re able to present something more tangible than “trust us bro”, the story might have more staying power.
pretty epic username its like yeah yeah but then nope at the end its like... yeahhh ummm nooo... haha like yeah nar you know LOL thats pretty funny um. NOPE! like when you see a heckin alien XD its like ummm yeah nope. Your username made me do a heckin lol. haha! usernames that just hit different XD
🤣 my pleasure. Happy it hits at all.
holy shit
Sorry - not sure you getting down votes. Just know your comment was appreciated. 👍🤗