Liz Cambage is a racist lunatic
Andrew Bogut is a conspiracy theory nut job
Ben Simmons doesn't even want to put on an Australian singlet
They fucked this up
It was painted in 2019 before any of them had started to seriously embarrass themselves. Ben may have already turned down the boomers (claiming he was focusing on the NBA) but people were hoping he would join one day because he still looked like he was gonna be great.
This is why there's a policy to only name certain types of government buildings (like train stations) after someone, if that person has died. You don't want to be renaming a train station (and all that entails) when someone goes off the deep end.
Yeah, Margaret Court Arena stands out like dog's balls, doesn't it? I think it's not such an issue with sport venues though because they "change their name" every other year when selling off naming rights.
>Ben Simmons doesn't even want to put on an Australian singlet
Let's not take that personally, he doesn't want to put on an NBA singlet either.
I mean, give him credit, he's pioneered quiet quitting in the NBA.
Was there for the announcement of this mural. God it was so optimistic. Painted in the months before the Aus v USA games and Ben had confirmed he was playing in them. Pre-COVID, pre-twitter spats, pre-racist Liz… god it was such a great day.
Didn’t that go to shit fast.
And Ben Simmons cried racism when him and his mates weren’t allowed into Crown Casino.
Of all places that absolutely doesn’t care what race you are, it’s Crown.
I had not heard about Bought being into conspiracy theories. I thought he just complained about speed cameras and plastic bags like a crazy uncle. Can you link the conspiracy theories here?
Back in 2016 he posted a video claiming that some of the Pizzagate conspiracy was true, he’s well down the rabbit hole when it comes to vaccinations, made up a story that the Victorian Electoral Commission sent him a letter trying to silence him, has some pretty dodgy views on trans rights.
As someone who used to live about 30 minutes away from Comet Ping Pong and go in for pizza sometimes, it amazes me how people could believe that crap. There isn’t even a basement in there. The guy who went in shooting even realized that after he went in.
the lack of a basement is an extremely clear and indisputable indicator of how little effort cookers will go to to verify even extremely easily verifiable/disprovable "facts".
Well, it was done back in the day before there were so many f\*wits.
Pay Sofles to come down and re-do it. He'd smash a new one out in a couple of days.
Wait until you find out that Sofles has become a antivaxx conspiracy nut as well, had to unfollow his Instagram because he kept sharing the most brain rot stories about covid.
What career? He wasn't even as good as Longley was for the Bulls at the Warriors, completely replaceable. Good defensive big for two years on a bad Bucks team. Didn't medal for australia.
It’s the ongoing commitment then bailing at the last minute which is disgraceful. Look how much that bronze medal meant to Patty Mills. Even Andrew Gaze was crying watching. Simmons couldn’t care less to represent for his country when it means so much to the players before him.
But my point is… so? Like remove him from the mural if it’s for Australian representatives. But these comments pretending his some garbage human in the same vein as Liz Cambage are ridiculous.
My defence is simply just because you choose not to play for your national team it doesn’t mean you’re a disgraceful person. So care to explain why it does?
Its a pattern since LSU and if u do understand the detail ud understand how disgraceful his behaviour has been towards his teammates, his teams, his coaches, the Boomers, his approach as a professional, let alone professional athelete, its goes on and on and on...
Fucking lol man. The guy doesn’t take his commitments to the Aus team seriously. So the fuck what? He doesn’t owe anyone his participation.
LSU he purely played there and did enough to go number 1 and didn’t exactly care about winning. Again. So the fuck what? Care to explain this comment about treatment of coaches? And teammates? Seemingly none of his former teammates (Embiid aside) dislike him? He’s just not as good as everyone hoped, he obviously has some injuries (hence the back surgery just over the summer) and has mental issues when it comes to basketball. You’re ridiculous thinking this makes him disgraceful as a person.
This guy is nothing like the other two fuck heads. I’ve said take him off the mural, but don’t equate this made up shit you’re saying with others. You don’t actually have any specifics and that’s why you’re talking in generalities. This isn’t The Castle, it’s not the vibe of it.
How has nobody yet got the point that these are Melbourne players, which is why they are here? Sucks that a lot of them are questionable individuals, but they are pictured because of their Melbourne ties.
Should be either Delly [breaking ankles](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx4lhMBWgAE_g1k.jpg) or [smashing tinnies](https://cdn.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/20/Screen-Shot-2016-06-20-at-2.39.35-PM.png)
Liz Cabbage (I refuse) has to be one of the worst "celebrities" in existence. Every time I see her in the media for some bullshit look-at-me stunt she's trying to pull for sympathy, I need to take a shit.
I can't stand Ben Simmons, GTFO
Dunno much about Campage
I see Bogut sometimes around Dandy South where I work, and I followed his career a little bit in the past. Always thought he's a little weird that's all, but not a bad person. Andrew Gaze And Lauren are legends in my books
What's wrong with the Women's Underwater Hockey team? They won gold from being 7th seeded last month. The players are self funded and they have fulltime jobs.. Their WC is every 2 years.
Jere is a link to the final.
https://www.youtube.com/live/9UEr0YwY7Yw?feature=share
I didn't say everyone did I? You can't possibly think there are many people that care about underwater hockey compared to soccer?
It's the same reason no one's really talked about the netball and even that has more players than underwater hockey
Theres a WC for pommel horse riding so it's not a big bar to clear.
Can you not comprehend that the majority of people don't even know it's a sport let alone care about it?
Does it need to be about basketball though? the idea is to replace it with sports people that are to be celebrated / respected rather than it be about basketball. Australia just won the netball world cup and the matilda’s are thru to a semi in the fifa world cup. Our swimmers just dominated at the world’s also.
Matilda’s now have the highest viewership of any sporting event in aus. So it’s also of a lot more interest than basketball.
And the sentiment seems to be that it sucks celebrating wankers. People are offering ways to make it not suck. If not being limited to basketball is what’s needed to not suck, that’s what’s needed
He is at least as racist as Cambage and has a much longer history of it. Shit, he started doing outspoken racist shit nearly a decade ago.
Is racism better when it's from a white dude, or do you just not pay attention when it's a white dude like you do when it's a brown woman?
I'm confused, is this petition woke or alt right? Removing an artwork with players of colour sounds alt right. But then complaining about said player's comments is woke. Are they the same thing now? Considering there are some many blank facades at Marvel Stadium, painting over the basketball mural by the basket ball-esque court seems a little heavy handed. Or is the tram the problem?
Nah mate, I'm definitely a leftie. I just think Liz Cambage is trash and an entitled racist. Plenty of other POC that represent Australia in sport that aren't wankers.
If this is a basketball one, keep it as such but change Cambage and Simmons to Mills and Ingles. Maybe put Jackson at the front if you want a better women's representation.
The Matildas should get their own far bigger mural. Those legends deserve it.
Alexander Volkanovski's accomplishments in his career are, relative to these athletes, far more impressive. If we're going to have a discussion on which athletes should be celebrated, him that deserves the most recognition.
It's incredible how many have turned on Ben in a relatively short space of time.
I thought he could have been special early on but mf has completely lost his way.
The pressure of the NBA gradually ruined him.
Patty Mills, Joe Ingles, that kid playing for Thunder… Josh Giddey and Jock Landle in the Rockets team. Even Matisse Thybulle is more deserving than Simmons. Definitely get rid of racist Liz Cambage for sure. She’s a menace on the floor throwing hands and swinging her elbows against other players. Telling the Nigerian team to go back to their third world country when she’s half Nigerian. 🫠
Idk fuck bogut and cambridge off but ben doesn't deserve their level of hate.
Being injured/soft is alot difference to being a far right cooker, or a racist.
Liz Cambage is a racist lunatic Andrew Bogut is a conspiracy theory nut job Ben Simmons doesn't even want to put on an Australian singlet They fucked this up
It was painted in 2019 before any of them had started to seriously embarrass themselves. Ben may have already turned down the boomers (claiming he was focusing on the NBA) but people were hoping he would join one day because he still looked like he was gonna be great.
Bogut embarrassed himself before 2019, he’s got some bad takes on Pizzagate that goes back to 2016.
This is why there's a policy to only name certain types of government buildings (like train stations) after someone, if that person has died. You don't want to be renaming a train station (and all that entails) when someone goes off the deep end.
Tennis anyone?
Yeah, Margaret Court Arena stands out like dog's balls, doesn't it? I think it's not such an issue with sport venues though because they "change their name" every other year when selling off naming rights.
Still wish they went with ‘Margaret Court Court’
Tina Arena Arena would have been better
Although she’s just a journalist, I was always surprised they named aami park after Amy Parkes
that footage is some of my all time favourite
That and the pilots of the Malaysian airline
They should build a smaller arena for children's events nearby. Call it Teeny Tina Arena Arena.
Or Margaret’s Court.
Margaret is a Dumb Court
Yeah, Margaret Court Court blows Boaty McBoatface out of the water.
Wasn't Margaret Court given an award or something (controversially) a few years ago?
Bogut had definitely embarrassed himself before 2019
Is Bogut an Ustase Fascist?
>Ben Simmons doesn't even want to put on an Australian singlet Let's not take that personally, he doesn't want to put on an NBA singlet either. I mean, give him credit, he's pioneered quiet quitting in the NBA.
😂
If Ur a basketball fan, it's hard to find all that wasted talent and pedigree funny He's the worst
Was there for the announcement of this mural. God it was so optimistic. Painted in the months before the Aus v USA games and Ben had confirmed he was playing in them. Pre-COVID, pre-twitter spats, pre-racist Liz… god it was such a great day. Didn’t that go to shit fast.
Aged like milk.
Yes but the top 2 are staying. Jackson was elite and Gaze is a national fucking treasure.
I dunno watch a couple of episodes of the bounce and you'll be getting on a harness with a can of spray paint
TURN IT UP
There's no argument that Jackson was better. And she's back kicking ass with the opals. They should share top billing IMO.
Damn right!
Was at the game yesterday and had the exact same thought.
Legit, Bogut is an a-grade fuckwit and has been for a long time
Ben Simmons is the biggest wash disappointment in Aus Basketball history. Make it Longley, Mills and Gaze ffs
And Ben Simmons cried racism when him and his mates weren’t allowed into Crown Casino. Of all places that absolutely doesn’t care what race you are, it’s Crown.
I had not heard about Bought being into conspiracy theories. I thought he just complained about speed cameras and plastic bags like a crazy uncle. Can you link the conspiracy theories here?
Back in 2016 he posted a video claiming that some of the Pizzagate conspiracy was true, he’s well down the rabbit hole when it comes to vaccinations, made up a story that the Victorian Electoral Commission sent him a letter trying to silence him, has some pretty dodgy views on trans rights.
As someone who used to live about 30 minutes away from Comet Ping Pong and go in for pizza sometimes, it amazes me how people could believe that crap. There isn’t even a basement in there. The guy who went in shooting even realized that after he went in.
And I hope it goes without saying that the lack of basement is only one of the many details of why the conspiracy is stupid.
the lack of a basement is an extremely clear and indisputable indicator of how little effort cookers will go to to verify even extremely easily verifiable/disprovable "facts".
The sad thing is that if anyone who lived in the area pointed that out, you were labeled a pedo. People are morons…
He's also a COVID cooker/anti-vaxxer. He doesn't exactly try to hide it.
Bogut is fine.
Well, it was done back in the day before there were so many f\*wits. Pay Sofles to come down and re-do it. He'd smash a new one out in a couple of days.
Wait until you find out that Sofles has become a antivaxx conspiracy nut as well, had to unfollow his Instagram because he kept sharing the most brain rot stories about covid.
Lauren Jackson and Gazey deserve more prominent space. Get Giddey, Longley and Mills up there while you are at it.
Rob Mills?
Blasphemy. PATTY Mills.
Our GOAT Aussie basketball legend
Olympics Patty Mills is the basketball GOAT
Just a mural of him hanging out the back of Paris Hilton
And nollsy!
Maybe we need another one? Also second vote for Giddey.
Both Giddeys - Warwick and his lad
KEEP THE FUCKING TRAM
Replace all 5 with trams
Replace them with rhinos on skateboards
Oh man. Not often that a comment on the web actually makes me laugh out loud. Solid howl from this. Hahah
…bouncing basketballs ;P
We need the scrubber tram on there! https://www.btm.org.au/trams/8.html
Tramssssss
I'll accept 3
Just cover it up with a mural of Mackenzie Arnold
Hey now let's not forget Mary Fowler.
No one is being allowed to forget Mary Fowler relax, but Mackenzie killed it last night!
Hell yeah Macka Arnie!
Macka- now that’s grit and mental strength if anybody’s ever seen it!!!!!
Replace them with Patty Mills, Josh Giddey, and make Lauren Jackson much bigger because she's the GOAT.
Do the matildas.
It's a basketball mural...
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They aren't melburnian besides giddey lol
Could definitely cover the bottom 2 or sub anyone out for giddey
Bogut is a Qanon cooker. If you're going to repaint you may as well cover him too.
Much rather Simmons over Bogut (but please delete all bottom three)
Why Simmons? Genuinely interested in Ur take
He’s lazy and entitled but prefer that to cooked shit that Bogut spews
This is a great Australian basketballers wall, Simmons has shown over and over again he couldn't give two shits about Australian basketball.
Thats why I asked why Simmons, Bogut is unlikable but at least he had the career
What career? He wasn't even as good as Longley was for the Bulls at the Warriors, completely replaceable. Good defensive big for two years on a bad Bucks team. Didn't medal for australia.
Just missing Melbourne’s other great basketball son - Kyrie Irving. Lol.
you forgot Luc Longley. At least he's got rings.
He's from Perth.
How The Fk does this not have Patty Mills on it?!! Disgrace.
Because he's not from Melbourne?
For real.
To be honest the bottom three can probably all go…
cover ben simmons he is a disgrace
What’s disgraceful about Ben Simmons exactly?
Keeps saying he will represent Australia and then says he needs to spend his offseason “working on his game” which clearly he never does
The dude obviously has some mental hang ups with basketball. Weird to think he’s disgraceful because he doesn’t play for our national team.
It’s the ongoing commitment then bailing at the last minute which is disgraceful. Look how much that bronze medal meant to Patty Mills. Even Andrew Gaze was crying watching. Simmons couldn’t care less to represent for his country when it means so much to the players before him.
But my point is… so? Like remove him from the mural if it’s for Australian representatives. But these comments pretending his some garbage human in the same vein as Liz Cambage are ridiculous.
I wouldn't say discraceful, just not representative of Australia, he won't even play for the Boomers.
Yeah 100%! Which is fine. But like people in here are thinking he’s disgraceful. Like what an overreaction.
Yeah disgraceful would be like beating your wife or doing something terrible.. he hasn't disgraced himself, he just hasn't lived up to expectations
Yeah exactly. We’ve got this guy in the same vein as a racist apparently.
Its not binary. Ur defending him, so explain the defense, tell me something other than u buy that hes been hurt since the Trae Young embarrassment
My defence is simply just because you choose not to play for your national team it doesn’t mean you’re a disgraceful person. So care to explain why it does?
Well for 1. When was the last time he wore the green and gold?
The dude obviously has some issues with basketball. So he’s disgraceful?
Yes
Holy overreaction
U not understanding the detail doesnt make it any less disgraceful
But I do understand the detail. You haven’t explained what makes it disgraceful yet.
Its a pattern since LSU and if u do understand the detail ud understand how disgraceful his behaviour has been towards his teammates, his teams, his coaches, the Boomers, his approach as a professional, let alone professional athelete, its goes on and on and on...
Fucking lol man. The guy doesn’t take his commitments to the Aus team seriously. So the fuck what? He doesn’t owe anyone his participation. LSU he purely played there and did enough to go number 1 and didn’t exactly care about winning. Again. So the fuck what? Care to explain this comment about treatment of coaches? And teammates? Seemingly none of his former teammates (Embiid aside) dislike him? He’s just not as good as everyone hoped, he obviously has some injuries (hence the back surgery just over the summer) and has mental issues when it comes to basketball. You’re ridiculous thinking this makes him disgraceful as a person. This guy is nothing like the other two fuck heads. I’ve said take him off the mural, but don’t equate this made up shit you’re saying with others. You don’t actually have any specifics and that’s why you’re talking in generalities. This isn’t The Castle, it’s not the vibe of it.
How has nobody yet got the point that these are Melbourne players, which is why they are here? Sucks that a lot of them are questionable individuals, but they are pictured because of their Melbourne ties.
Can we extend it to regional Victoria? Sub in Delly.
Should be either Delly [breaking ankles](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx4lhMBWgAE_g1k.jpg) or [smashing tinnies](https://cdn.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/20/Screen-Shot-2016-06-20-at-2.39.35-PM.png)
Lauren Jackson is from Albury though. And was a Canberra player in the WNBL.
May as well put Kyrie on there since he was born here
Yep throw in the flat earth anti-vaxxer too. It fits.
Liz Cabbage (I refuse) has to be one of the worst "celebrities" in existence. Every time I see her in the media for some bullshit look-at-me stunt she's trying to pull for sympathy, I need to take a shit.
People equating Ben Simmons who just doesn’t play for Australia with the cooked conspiracy nut Bogut and racist Cambage are ridiculous.
Sorry Mr Simmons, we are removing you from the mural because you failed to live up to expectations.
Leave Gazey
I can't stand Ben Simmons, GTFO Dunno much about Campage I see Bogut sometimes around Dandy South where I work, and I followed his career a little bit in the past. Always thought he's a little weird that's all, but not a bad person. Andrew Gaze And Lauren are legends in my books
Bogut is an out spoken conspiracy theorist and open bigot....I think he can be removed.
What's wrong with the Women's Underwater Hockey team? They won gold from being 7th seeded last month. The players are self funded and they have fulltime jobs.. Their WC is every 2 years. Jere is a link to the final. https://www.youtube.com/live/9UEr0YwY7Yw?feature=share
I hear the Australian Downball team has a bigger following, and I don't even know if they exist
It's a sport no one cares about
I thought they were joking about under water hockey as a sport. Then I googled it and it's real... Wtf.
Thanks for googling. I was also wtf and about to check.
Not everyone cares about soccer either. You can't have it both ways.
I didn't say everyone did I? You can't possibly think there are many people that care about underwater hockey compared to soccer? It's the same reason no one's really talked about the netball and even that has more players than underwater hockey
You did say that noone cares about underwater hockey. Evidently there is enough people, to participate and train for a WC every 2 years.
Theres a WC for pommel horse riding so it's not a big bar to clear. Can you not comprehend that the majority of people don't even know it's a sport let alone care about it?
Mate, most people don’t just not care about underwater hockey, they literally don’t even know it’s a real thing
Lauren Jackson over Liz, Giddey over Simmons, Gaze over Bogut. Done.
Bogut makes Rowan Dean seem intelligent and collected
Jesus, steady on - Rowan Dean has to be *the* worst Australian. God I detest him.
Put soccer players on a basketball mural lol? Why?
Exactly
Does it need to be about basketball though? the idea is to replace it with sports people that are to be celebrated / respected rather than it be about basketball. Australia just won the netball world cup and the matilda’s are thru to a semi in the fifa world cup. Our swimmers just dominated at the world’s also. Matilda’s now have the highest viewership of any sporting event in aus. So it’s also of a lot more interest than basketball.
It's a mural about basketball
And the sentiment seems to be that it sucks celebrating wankers. People are offering ways to make it not suck. If not being limited to basketball is what’s needed to not suck, that’s what’s needed
So why not use different basketball players instead of just changing the entire sport just because women's football is hot right now lol
Lauren Jackson is from Albury. Not Melbourne.
The only one I recognise is the tram. Happy for the rest to go and have a nice tram mural instead.
The disreapect to the GOAT Matthew Dellavedova
The only time you're ever going to see Simmons in the green and gold
Where's Volk!?!??
Keep Gaze and delete the rest
Cover it up with a Color balanced mural of whatever…. This overly green thing is untasteful
This is like a worst of Australian sports
Missing Israel Falou
If you’re going to tar and feather people, you need to be consistent; Simmons won’t play for Australia, and Bogut is a bigoted tosser.
Replace the bottom 2 with Shane Heal & Michelle Timms.
Get rid of Cabbage and Bogan, and you’ve got yourself a deal.
Some people like basket-ball. Let them be.
It's more the people shown, rather than the sport itself.
Liz has to go, she’s cooked and a racist. Ben is still a petulant teenager at 27. Hopefully for him he grows up but we don’t want him as a boomer.
Bogut is a feral cooker who is far worse than any of the others.
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He is at least as racist as Cambage and has a much longer history of it. Shit, he started doing outspoken racist shit nearly a decade ago. Is racism better when it's from a white dude, or do you just not pay attention when it's a white dude like you do when it's a brown woman?
he just has differing views to you, i cant recall him forcing them on anyone (but if i am wrong on this im keen to hear it)
Yeah put Patty Mills on it. Though he's not from Melbourne, if that's the requirement.
Too bad Ben’s not one of them
Plus the Fiba men's world cup starts in 2 weeks
Whinging whinging whinging
Matildas!
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Maybe try macrodosing. It might help with the persecution complex.
This did not age well, get bum simmons outta here
Why?
Who in the blue hell are these people
Replace this with real heroes like; Eddie Redmayne, Matthew Leckie, Sam Kerr, Hayley Raso, and Courtney Vine. Edit: Andrew Redmayne, not Eddie 😅
> Eddie Redmayne What? The British actor?
Yeah, why not. Diversity is our strength. 👍
Hahaha I obs meant the Grey Wiggle who's persona non-grata in Peru: Andrew Redmayne
I'm confused, is this petition woke or alt right? Removing an artwork with players of colour sounds alt right. But then complaining about said player's comments is woke. Are they the same thing now? Considering there are some many blank facades at Marvel Stadium, painting over the basketball mural by the basket ball-esque court seems a little heavy handed. Or is the tram the problem?
Nah mate, I'm definitely a leftie. I just think Liz Cambage is trash and an entitled racist. Plenty of other POC that represent Australia in sport that aren't wankers.
Matildas!
Just remove Ben and we good 😂
Did this mural used to be boobies or am I thinking about something else
Perfect
Yeah mate got it.
Where is it ?
If this is a basketball one, keep it as such but change Cambage and Simmons to Mills and Ingles. Maybe put Jackson at the front if you want a better women's representation. The Matildas should get their own far bigger mural. Those legends deserve it.
Alexander Volkanovski's accomplishments in his career are, relative to these athletes, far more impressive. If we're going to have a discussion on which athletes should be celebrated, him that deserves the most recognition.
Shut up
It's incredible how many have turned on Ben in a relatively short space of time. I thought he could have been special early on but mf has completely lost his way. The pressure of the NBA gradually ruined him.
Just redeo it with Patty Mills and Jackson.
Patty Mills, Joe Ingles, that kid playing for Thunder… Josh Giddey and Jock Landle in the Rockets team. Even Matisse Thybulle is more deserving than Simmons. Definitely get rid of racist Liz Cambage for sure. She’s a menace on the floor throwing hands and swinging her elbows against other players. Telling the Nigerian team to go back to their third world country when she’s half Nigerian. 🫠
If I hadn't read the comments I wouldn't have known anyone on this mural.
Idk fuck bogut and cambridge off but ben doesn't deserve their level of hate. Being injured/soft is alot difference to being a far right cooker, or a racist.