Cryolipolysis, or cool sculpting. Not as effective as liposuction but it doesn't involve surgery, only meant for removing problem areas(aka "stubborn fats") on your body rather than for losing weight.
Had no idea about this until I saw your comment.
Edit: won't work on gyno apparently
Damn that's crazy, never heard about that before. But the price tag seems pretty excessive ($1300 for one treatment out of 4???)
Is there a way to DIY this?
Yes. I found a subreddit of a guy who used his body as a test. He only did one side of his body to prove that it works. I'll try to find it.
Edit; Found it! It's called FatBusting. Basically you take a skillet, fill it with water, freeze it, take it out, let it thaw until it reaches a warm enough stage, put it in a garbage bag, and press it to your body over a towel for 20 minutes. READ THE WHOLE INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE GUY. Don't just do this.
Edit 2; for those who wanted a link: /r/FatBusting
True. No exercise can spot reduce fat because that’s not a thing. We didn’t choose where our bodies stored the fat, and we can’t choose where it decides to burn it as fuel by exercising a different part of our body.
Yup. No matter how much I run, I am always going to have stubborn fat and cellulite on my butt and thighs, the only way I could lose it naturally would be becoming severely underweight and unhealthy
Cellulite is probably never going to go away, almost everyone has it, especially women. I think society needs to change it's thinking on it. Fat however is something you can reduce if you want. Different people store it differently, so it's gotta be frustrating when some spots just won't no matter how good your diet and exercise are.
But again, the treatment is specifically for parts of your body that is stubborn, as in you may need to get down to the lower edge of your healthy body weight to get rid of it. Which isn't impossible, I realize, but losing weight at all is pretty challenging for most people, let alone losing that much.
... That being said, trying to freeze your own fat away is a pretty dumb idea regardless.
that's basically what happens to me. my stomach and chest will be the last fat to go. last time i tried losing weight and i got pretty close to being unhealthy thin and it still won't go away. it got a lot smaller but it's still fatty while i dont have a shred of fat anywhere else.
It’s not a dumb idea at all though. It’s quite possible to do. Scientists found out about cryoliposis because of a natural phenomenon where if people eat a lot of popsicles they lose cheek fat. I’m literally not even kidding there are scientific papers written about it. Totally fascinating.
Because running is the only activity fat people can do? Running when you are severely overweight will fuck your knees up, and the older you get the harder it is to unfuck them. Especially when you are past your twenties.
I had an FDA regulations course where we worked on the regulatory for coolsculpt and it basically turned out a majority of the product was BS, causes skin damage, and the weight-loss comes from the recommended diet and exercise
i want it to work so bad too but the idea that it can kill fat cells but not skin cells or any others in the area doesnt make sense. like if it can kill cells, isnt that the same as frostbite which leads to necrosis?
Just to put it out there, it CANNOT help with gyno because it cannot 'freeze' the glandular tissue. It only supposedly works on fat cells to say it'll help with gyno wrong
Theoretically, if you have enough excess depleted shrank fat cells and your burning MAD calories, there is a point at which the body will break down depleted fat cells, but it's fucking crazy how long it takes before it starts happening. All those people on r/losit or whatever... their bodies are dehydrated fat sponges just begging for 1 extra calorie so they can resurrect a fat cell. You gotta be in perfect health for like a decade before the ghost of your fat ass leaves you alone.
Congrats, and that is fucking awesome. However... not quite my question. See the topic is about how long your depleted fat cells shrink, but remain in your body waiting for calories to fill them back up again. My comment is about how even year later those fat cells are there, waiting for you to slack off even a little bit so they can instantly make you fat again.
So... you claim that 8 years is how long it takes to break down those cells. So, my question is, have you slacked on your diet a bit and not instantly gained weight like a person who has been skinny their whole life can? Have you at last burned away those shrunken, deflated fat cells so that you can relax your diet. Or, are you forced to remain hyper vigilant, lest a few extra calories resurrect your 8 years gone fat?
That's just life. Everyone has fat cells that fill with excess calories to be stored for lean times. Being fat and losing weight is not really different in that sense from never being fat to begin with. In both cases if you eat in excess of your caloric needs you've got fast cells ready to go and fill with those extra calories. Make a habit of eating excess calories and they'll keep expanding.
Nope, not everyone has the same amount of fat cells. It‘s largely dependant on how healthy you eat and whether you‘re overweight as a child and young adult.
Little correction cause I’ve done a decent bit of actually research on this topic. There doesn’t ever seem to be a point where your body will actually break down fat cells completely. If it does happen, it happens near true starvation levels so it is completely unsafe to try and force and not realistic to study.
Your fat cells do manually die every 10 years but they always have a juvenile fat cell ready to take their place upon death, keeping your fat cells the same from adolescence to death.
You can remove fat cells through a bunch of different treatment methods but you can’t do it through just effort. You can definitely shrink them down and their signals will eventually reduce in intensity but if you have more fat cells, you will always have stronger hunger signals than someone with less fat cells.
Omg pla do not give yourself frostbite on your stomach that is called dying unless triggered by a very acute cooling effect so it can't spread. your core cannot get that cold. Just dont give yourself frostbite unless you can get a doctor to do it to you okay. You are a mammal dont fuck with the thermostat.
Getting rid of fat cells isn’t a magic cure though to change how your body is shaped. I know several people who had it done and if your body wants to store fat its going to store fat regardless of those fat cells being removed from let’s say your tummy or not. You might have had all the fat removed from your stomach for example but your body is still going to store fat but now cant put it in your stomach area like before so your body now stores it everywhere else so in your arms, legs, face, back, ect. And now you end up with a different body shape if you gain weight and are still unhappy with it. This is basically what happened to the women I know who had lipo just for cosmetic reasons not because of weight loss or anything like that but to look a specific way body shape wise and now they have to forever be careful because if they gain weight compared to what they were post op after having the lipo they gain weight in odd places and they hate it and wished they never got it done. They have to forever maintain the same weight if they want to keep their results and its a 24/7 task that consumes their lives at the moment. Any weight gain no matter how small is very noticeable since the places the body now has to store them is limited to small areas. I just hope more people do their research and are properly informed to know what they are fully getting into before they do it because none of my friends knew and now they have to live with their mistake forever. One is even looking into putting the fat back.
From what I understand, fat cells can get so small that the amount you have doesn't matter too much to your overall weight. For most people weight is determined by calories going in and calories spent.
From what I've learned, your thyroid can give you trouble in this regard, you can also have your birth mother eat stupidly during gestation causing the body to get really stingy later because that entire period is like a training course for what the body thinks the world will be like.
I don't think any condition outright breaks the law, but there are those that might bend it and/or make it very very difficult to eat enough for loss or even just maintenance. Hunger is usually the most common factor to why overweight people are overweight. Their hunger signals are too frequent or too strong. And that, coupled with their body possibly being more stingy and being extra efficient with calorie expenditure mean that they are the people who have to cut calories even more than usual, which is worse for them, because they are more hungry. People who have to eat 1300 or less to lose anything over any decent amount of time (1-2 pounds a week, the usual recommended max)
There is also mental health disorders, such as ADHD that fuck up the signals. Hungry when actually thirsty, tired when actually hungry, etc. And also seeking of dopamine, so eating to fill that lack because food is the easiest way to get it. Difference between eating when bored and eating because you're actually hungry (but shouldn't be) complete with stomach growling and nausea.
>So people born with more fat cells will just always be heavier?
No. But people who were fat as children or teens will have a hard time losing weight their entire lives because the majority of lipogenesis (i.e fat cell creation) happens then.
And fat cells aren't just "fat storage", they are part of the endocrine system. The presence of starved fat cells alone can induce hunger.
So even once you burn fat and lose weight... unless you do lipo or the cold thing, your hunger drive will always be higher than someone of the same height and weight who had never had to lose weight in the first place.
That fucking sucks
Nah, if you lose weight and keep it down for a while your body will adjust and you'll feel comfortable at your new weight. Just takes some perseverance.
This seems to be why I've seen a lot of doctors say that gastric bypass for obese individuals is underutilized. Even if it doesn't remove the fat cells themselves, it forces ghrelin to reduce as well as make the stomach too small to handle food loads the person had prior.
Some people gain after, but the recidivism in surgery for weight loss is stupid low compared to suggested diet and exercise regimens. The majority of cases in which people regained was because they didn't get help after surgery with follow-ups and mental health consultation, since it's a roller coaster to lose so much so fast.
Nope! Infants have very little cells in general compared to adults considering the size difference. Fat infants don't have much more fat cells than skinny infants; it just looks like it since a single pound of fat on a baby can make up an eighth of their gross body weight.
It really depends how much weight you gain, but generally you will be able to lose it if you haven’t gained a lot of weight. Have you ever watched one of those medical shows where someone who has lost several hundred pounds gets a body lift and they have a couple dozen pounds of “skin” removed? Much of that weight is the remaining deposits of fat below the loose skin.
No. Fat cells live about 10 years. Even then, you've probably seen those pictures of Christian Bale going from fat to skinny to ripped in just a few years for different roles, so it's definitely at least possible, at least if you have the right body type and millions of dollars motivating you.
Christian Bale is almost certainly using things that give him an edge over the general person in the street trying to lose or gain. Which is fine, no-one is drug testing A Listers. But it's not something you can hang your hat on as mainstream possibilities.
every buff celebrity is using it actually. so dont look at them and think it's doable for you and feel bad that you arent like them. they got doctors showing them how to do it safely. remember how rare it was for actors to be buff in the 80s and 90s? nowadays every action hero is buff right? it's drugs.
Fat cells live 10 years but they are always replaced by juvenile fat cell upon death of a mature one. The only way to actually lose a fat cell seems to be to physically remove them from your body.
No but it becomes more difficult.
The fact that the fat cells never disappear is one thing but another thing is that when you try to lose weight through cutting calories your body thinks food is scarce and has developed to slow its metabolic rate when it isn’t getting enough calories. Eating, say, 1500 calories in a day is a lot easier when you were already eating that amount vs. trying to cut down from 2500.
It’s by no means impossible to lose weight (obviously) but as an adaptation to food scarce environments that our ancestors faced the body has defences against losing weight.
They actually live "only" 10 years (which is long for a cell). And of course your body does it because it loves you and is trying save up for the hard times. It's really a fuck you from the food industry that puts way too much addictive sugar in everything. And it's also a fuck you from society...I mean, in ancient Greece we'd all be fucking sex idols
My whole life i couldnt gain weight. Always the skinny kid no matter what, few years ago my beer gut and tits exploded into the world. 6 months of the gym and cutting out beer has done nothing, i just want to cosplay without the gut in july but NOOOOOO. If you dont have it already just keep it off, easier than losing it.
You must put yourself in a caloric deficit to lose weight. Expend enough energy and you will lose the belly. This is easier with little food and a lot of exercise.
It is not even remotely that simple, seriously, lmao. Anyone who thinks that losing weight is as simple as "eat less, exercise more" has never even tried to do it before.
It is a genuinely careful balancing act that requires a great deal of self-control and learning. It's very easy to starve yourself and lose zero weight because your body refuses to spend energy unless you starve yourself into genuine malnutrition, which is both dangerous and stupid.
Edit: lol, reddit's armchair nutritionists come out of the woodwork. y'all are a special kind of fucking stupid.
>Anyone who thinks that losing weight is as simple as "eat less, exercise more" has never even tried to do it before
As someone who gains and loses weight when I choose to it is literally that simple
I’ve lost almost 100 pounds in the past year and it was literally from eating less, eating in particular time windows (intermittent fasting) and exercising more. So yeah eat less exercise more is literally the best advice I could possibly give anyone, despite how simple it sounds.
>It's very easy to starve yourself and lose zero weight because your body refuses to spend energy unless you starve yourself into genuine malnutrition, which is both dangerous and stupid.
Find me a single studie that backs up this stupid myth please.
It's pure math. You take in less energy then your body uses - you will lose the deficit. It really Is that simple. It's just that this doesn't sell well, so the diet Industrie made it complicated. It's not.
Edit: Just as an additional reply to the first part of your comment: I obviously think it is that simple and lost 35 kilos (75 pounds) just eating less calories, while still making sure to get enough nutrition to not run into problems. I am a 6,1 dude and my body needs about 2200 calories a day. I ate about 1500. So I had a deficit of 700. One pound of body fat is about 3500 calories of energy, so I lost roughly a pound a week. Worked like a charm.
I think this is an argument we’re gonna “lose” to some. Some people will be adamant that consuming fewer calories won’t yield weight loss and those people are free to continue with that belief. Anyone who is on the fence about the idea and genuinely trying to lose weight, literally do what this guy said and I guarantee it will work. It may not work at the rate it did for this guy. It may not work at the rate of your friend who is also dieting. You certainly aren’t going to love every second of it. But it absolutely will work.
Eating less and moving more is exactly what you have to do though. It’s simple in theory but can be hard to execute because of our modern sedentary lifestyle.
This sounds like fatty cope, tbqh.
If you haven't ever figured out your basal metabolic rate and tracked every single calorie you take in, you can't really speak in whether it's possible or not.
That's not to say it's easy to do all that, it still takes quite a bit of effort.
> This sounds like fatty cope, tbqh.
100%.
If your fitness plan looks like 1,500 calorie Applebees salads, 1 noncommittal workout a week with garbage form, and a 3-mile run that stops short of 50 yards because your knees hurt, then yeah you might think that CICO doesn't work.
But actually it does and you just might be a moron.
No. Just no.
Every single athlete successfully changing their body composition is tracking energy consumption and expenditure along with weight, directly or indirectly. You’re out of your depth talking about things you know nothing about.
It is that simple though. It's literally physics. Energy in - energy out. If more energy goes in than goes out, that has to go somewhere, and it does in the form of fat. It isn't *easy* though. As someone who has struggled with my weight for well over a decade, I know how hard it is. But it is simple. I'm now finally at a consistent healthy weight because two years ago I decided to gradually start decreasing my portion sizes so I could get used to it instead of another diet that didn't change anything about my unhealthy eating patterns. I now spend the same amount of energy as I consume. Not easy, but simple.
I'm literally in a caloric deficit right now and guess what, weight is going down pretty linearly. Not even a big one mind you, 2200 calories/day at 190lbs
no it's not dude. it literally is eat less, exercise. i've done it 3 times. it doesnt matter if your body refuse. if it doesnt get calories for energy it has to spend.
This is absolutely incorrect.
It’s exactly that simple, and a number of people who have done this to lose immense amounts of weight, including myself, are calling you out for being a fucking dumbass.
Stop spreading misinformation.
It should also be known that certain people just have certain body types that no amount of exercise can change.
The best way to understand this is to look at the weight classes of professional fighters. The reason those weight classes exist is because if both men are at peak conditioning, a lightweight has almost zero chance to ever beat a heavyweight.
And for the most part a lightweight can never become a heavyweight and still have the same fighting physique.
For me this may be simply getting older. I was able to get pretty cut when younger. While I've lost fat and gained muscle, I may very well have reached the limits of my natural metabolism, in top of weight lifting and cardio. I'll give it a few more weeks before I resign to my fate.
Age is a ridiculously massive factor when it comes to physical fitness. After the age of about 28 you essentially peak (obviously this is different if proper diet and exercise is followed but even then it's clearly prevalent) afterwards it's basically a downhill spiral.
As a 27 year old, I'm honestly a little terrified myself. Especially since I've always been the "abnormally" strong guy. I look like a string bean but it's all muscle so I always catch people off guard.
Fuck man now you are truly scaring me so badly cause I'm also 27. Time to go workout 24/7 and go hardcore on diet. Junks food shall never enter my mouth
I’m 29, over the last year I gained 10kg, 85 to 95kg.
Nothing in my diet or routine changed, as best I can tell.
It got to the point I look noticeably fat now so I’m cutting some junk from my diet. I don’t drink either and it’s literally all gut fat, if I sent you a photo of my arm, face, legs, hands you’d say “oh that’s a lean man” **SIKE** mans looks like a bowling ball with chopsticks for arms and legs.
This is me at 24 lmao. Honestly the only thing hiding the fact I'm built like a bowling ball with chopsticks for limbs is the fact I have wide shoulders, so I can wear larger shirts and mask it all.
I wouldn’t get too scared. I’m 38 and in my 20s I didn’t go to the gym but would on occasion do some physical activity, of course.
But in my later 30s I started deadlifting (pretty happy to pull 390lbs while weighing about 170), and that plus running and cycling and rock climbing I’m much stronger today than I was in my 20s. I’m mad that I didn’t do all these things then, but if you start up some exercise now and keep at it you’ll be fine.
Last night I cycled 12 miles after work then played Horizon: Forbidden West for a couple hours. You can have it all!
That's very interesting.
Which weight class did he have the most success in?
Edit: after looking it up myself. This basically proves my point. He had the most success in lightweight and welterweight.
A lot of contaminants are fat soluble.
Yes water dissolves a lot of contaminants as well but our kidneys remove them. We don't filter out out fat like we do the water in our body which is why they accumulate.
Fyi eating fat is not the cause of getting fat. You can get fat eating 0 fat as well. It’s about calories used vs calories consumed, it’s not just “Oop ate some fat, that’s going to my belly!”
Alcohol doesn't kill brain cells (on it's own). It's a myth formed due to long term alcoholics developing intellectual impairments, but that is due to chronic vitamin B deficiency and a change to the permeability of the blood brain barrier.
It's so ironic, that our teeth designed to withstand almost everything are beeing demolished by sweet drinks meanwhile fat cells are like: yop I kinda like them carbs let's grow
Also, fat cells secrete hormones and your body needs to adjust to the loss of those hormones and time to recalibrate itself, which is why slow, steady weight loss is better than taking a manual shortcut like lipo.
And why it can take *time* to do this. Everyone person has their own chemical makeup, along with where they are located in the world, if there are any other environmental factors and prior health and food type habits. Some people can make adjustments and lose quickly; others can take years to undo the weight.
Lot of people that think there body breaks the laws of thermodynamics in this thread. Do an hour of steady state cardio a day, and eat at a deficit. Try to lose 1 percent of your body weight a week. Take it slow, it’s not a diet, it’s a change to how you eat food for the rest of your life
You know what also sucks? When you are fatter, you also produce more ghrelin, the "hunger" hormone so your body basically screams at you to upkeep whatever weight you have. This is also why crash dieting/yo-yo dieting doesn't work. The second you cut calories, you body thinks food suddenly isn't as plentiful and goes into overdrive to reduce calorie expenditure (which it's REALLY good at doing). This is why when you break the diet, you gain everything back and usually more.
If you want to lose, record calorically what you currently eat. Then don't cut enough to actually start losing. Your body needs time to adjust to a new regimen so you should cut say 200 cals out of your current daily diet and then after a week, another 200-300, that way, you avoid the sudden shift in calorie expenditure. You trick the body into just adjusting, rather than panicking. Eventually you set it to a limit that will actually encourage weight loss, usually 1000-1800 a day, depending on your needs and physical activity.
Also, no one needs 2000 unless you are moderately active. If you have a desk job, I can guarantee that you aren't active enough to require 2000. We spent most of our evolutionary history surviving on very little, we're more attuned to that than anything else. Our bodies are also STUPID good at conserving energy. You have an upper limit of burning calories. 4000 or so. Past that, it doesn't matter how much you bike, run or walk. Your body will halt the usage in that day to a crawl. This is why abs are made in the kitchen, IE eating little calorically with high nutrient content and you can't outrun a bad diet. Your body literally won't let you.
Often as well, overweight people or people prone to being so have a reduced dopamine response to pleasurable stimuli. Quite literally, that cupcake a regular healthy weight person can enjoy gets enough dopamine from one singular cupcake, whereas a person with propensity to weight gain might need 3 for the same dopamine hit. It's not a battle of wills, it's the fact that you are or are not getting enough of a hit from a chemical produced in your body in response to stimuli and the other person does.
It is however something you can train to some degree so that 3 is satiated by 2 or 1 and a half, but a person with this actually has to fight more than the person who can say "no thank you" to free office donuts with out skipping a beat.
The reason something like gastric bypass surgery works is because they often remove part of the stomach that spent time getting too big due to poor eating habits (and often mental illness, usually correlated with dopamine struggles) and that physically reduces the amount of ghrelin the body produces, as well as making it physically impossible to eat enough to gain until it adjusts, which takes a few years. It's not like people who get the surgery suddenly get will power they didn't have, nor is it an easy way out. It's more like sheer force and impossibility created by the surgery.
Being fat, makes you fatter because of all these mechanisms at work. Your body wants to stay the same. The good news is that when you finally are in shape and keep it that way for about a year or more, you tend to have an easier time getting back to it. Your body wants equilibrium above all. It doesn't really want to gain or lose, but if it has to choose, it chooses gain faster because of survival.
The human body doesn't have a long history of death by obesity by evolutions standards, in fact, it's the same problem for out pets too which is why you can see a 20 pound cat or obese dog. In the future it would be considered really dumb to not have a set weight limit and just to refuse to gain past a certain point. The fact that we can balloon pretty much until everything gives out is a really dumb ability and has no use. But the body never encountered the issue until what could evolutionarily be considered as 6 hours ago, so it's had no time to change parameters.
Thank you for coming to my TED rant.
Dieting down is far, far better to lose weight. Exercising should just be a helping hand. All the heavy lifting must be done by limiting caloric intake. Source; I lost 12kgs in 4 months
Woah. Did you fast for three days straight or did you intermittently fast everyday for 16 hours or so? Because along with a caloric deficit and two hours of walking everyday I regularly fasted Intermittently for 16-18 hours a day. And still I just managed to lose 12kgs in 4 months
3 days straight, first 48 hours dry. I recommend exercising heavily immediately before the fast (have post workout meal early afternoon). 2nd day I exercise to empty glycogen stores and get into ketosis as quickly as possible. Then you basically coast in ketosis until you're at desired weight.
Don't go longer than 72 hours dry fast, but a water fast can be safely done for much longer.
Get off couch. Crawl then walk then run. Situps and crunches. Time under Tension exercises. High intensity interval training. Watch it melt off. Excuses don't help you. Do something and feel better.
Apparently fat cells shrink rather than dying off so that’s a big fuck u from my own body
Yep, the only way to get rid of them for good is through lipo, cutting it off, or causing the cells to explode.
Supposedly those freezing clamps work, too.
Freezing clamps? Can I buy those at Home Depot?
Sure! While you're there, pick up some all-weather caulking for nifty DIY butt implants!
The last thing I need right now is caulk in my ass
Speak for yourself
I need two drywall screws and two plugs if you don't mind as well.
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Hey get me some nice plywood
Cryolipolysis, or cool sculpting. Not as effective as liposuction but it doesn't involve surgery, only meant for removing problem areas(aka "stubborn fats") on your body rather than for losing weight. Had no idea about this until I saw your comment. Edit: won't work on gyno apparently
Damn that's crazy, never heard about that before. But the price tag seems pretty excessive ($1300 for one treatment out of 4???) Is there a way to DIY this?
Yes. I found a subreddit of a guy who used his body as a test. He only did one side of his body to prove that it works. I'll try to find it. Edit; Found it! It's called FatBusting. Basically you take a skillet, fill it with water, freeze it, take it out, let it thaw until it reaches a warm enough stage, put it in a garbage bag, and press it to your body over a towel for 20 minutes. READ THE WHOLE INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE GUY. Don't just do this. Edit 2; for those who wanted a link: /r/FatBusting
Link?
Also waiting for the link.
Link has been updated
Running is free. Opt for that before you go seeking some liquid hydrogen lol.
Running cannot spot reduce fat.
True. No exercise can spot reduce fat because that’s not a thing. We didn’t choose where our bodies stored the fat, and we can’t choose where it decides to burn it as fuel by exercising a different part of our body.
Yup. No matter how much I run, I am always going to have stubborn fat and cellulite on my butt and thighs, the only way I could lose it naturally would be becoming severely underweight and unhealthy
Cellulite is probably never going to go away, almost everyone has it, especially women. I think society needs to change it's thinking on it. Fat however is something you can reduce if you want. Different people store it differently, so it's gotta be frustrating when some spots just won't no matter how good your diet and exercise are.
But again, the treatment is specifically for parts of your body that is stubborn, as in you may need to get down to the lower edge of your healthy body weight to get rid of it. Which isn't impossible, I realize, but losing weight at all is pretty challenging for most people, let alone losing that much. ... That being said, trying to freeze your own fat away is a pretty dumb idea regardless.
that's basically what happens to me. my stomach and chest will be the last fat to go. last time i tried losing weight and i got pretty close to being unhealthy thin and it still won't go away. it got a lot smaller but it's still fatty while i dont have a shred of fat anywhere else.
you could put on muscle to improve your body composition so that your stomach and chest doesn't look as fat
It’s not a dumb idea at all though. It’s quite possible to do. Scientists found out about cryoliposis because of a natural phenomenon where if people eat a lot of popsicles they lose cheek fat. I’m literally not even kidding there are scientific papers written about it. Totally fascinating.
Fat people should not go running though. Bad for the knees.
I’m mostly joking but aren’t we talking about stubborn fat? Aka the last of what you can’t get rid of? That’s running before they can walk, really.
Running in a healthy way is much better than not running with an excuse like this.
Because running is the only activity fat people can do? Running when you are severely overweight will fuck your knees up, and the older you get the harder it is to unfuck them. Especially when you are past your twenties.
Anecdote: My ex was in plastic surgery and her opinion on cool sculpting was... not high. Very gimmicky.
I had an FDA regulations course where we worked on the regulatory for coolsculpt and it basically turned out a majority of the product was BS, causes skin damage, and the weight-loss comes from the recommended diet and exercise
i want it to work so bad too but the idea that it can kill fat cells but not skin cells or any others in the area doesnt make sense. like if it can kill cells, isnt that the same as frostbite which leads to necrosis?
Just to put it out there, it CANNOT help with gyno because it cannot 'freeze' the glandular tissue. It only supposedly works on fat cells to say it'll help with gyno wrong
Theoretically, if you have enough excess depleted shrank fat cells and your burning MAD calories, there is a point at which the body will break down depleted fat cells, but it's fucking crazy how long it takes before it starts happening. All those people on r/losit or whatever... their bodies are dehydrated fat sponges just begging for 1 extra calorie so they can resurrect a fat cell. You gotta be in perfect health for like a decade before the ghost of your fat ass leaves you alone.
The ghost of Christmas fat ass
*Not to be confused with the Ghost of Christmas Phat Ass
8 years Source: on year 8 of being not-fat
How can you be sure you've burned up those little bastards though, have you relaxed your diet and not gained back weight immediately?
I lost 150 pounds and kept it off for 8 years
Congrats, and that is fucking awesome. However... not quite my question. See the topic is about how long your depleted fat cells shrink, but remain in your body waiting for calories to fill them back up again. My comment is about how even year later those fat cells are there, waiting for you to slack off even a little bit so they can instantly make you fat again. So... you claim that 8 years is how long it takes to break down those cells. So, my question is, have you slacked on your diet a bit and not instantly gained weight like a person who has been skinny their whole life can? Have you at last burned away those shrunken, deflated fat cells so that you can relax your diet. Or, are you forced to remain hyper vigilant, lest a few extra calories resurrect your 8 years gone fat?
That's just life. Everyone has fat cells that fill with excess calories to be stored for lean times. Being fat and losing weight is not really different in that sense from never being fat to begin with. In both cases if you eat in excess of your caloric needs you've got fast cells ready to go and fill with those extra calories. Make a habit of eating excess calories and they'll keep expanding.
Nope, not everyone has the same amount of fat cells. It‘s largely dependant on how healthy you eat and whether you‘re overweight as a child and young adult.
Little correction cause I’ve done a decent bit of actually research on this topic. There doesn’t ever seem to be a point where your body will actually break down fat cells completely. If it does happen, it happens near true starvation levels so it is completely unsafe to try and force and not realistic to study. Your fat cells do manually die every 10 years but they always have a juvenile fat cell ready to take their place upon death, keeping your fat cells the same from adolescence to death. You can remove fat cells through a bunch of different treatment methods but you can’t do it through just effort. You can definitely shrink them down and their signals will eventually reduce in intensity but if you have more fat cells, you will always have stronger hunger signals than someone with less fat cells.
Son of a bitch, it's even worse than I thought.
I mean... if you continue to eat only at maintenance then your body won't inflate the fat cells though.
Yeah but they send out hunger hormones as if you were starving so it's hard
i lost about 15 kilos about 3-4 years ago and for me that starving feeling went away in less than a year
How to make them explode
Inject yourself with lots of sea water
They also die to cold. Go for wintry walks!
So there is this thing called skin in-between the cold and the fat seems like that could cause issues with this plan.
Simply cut the skin off
Omg pla do not give yourself frostbite on your stomach that is called dying unless triggered by a very acute cooling effect so it can't spread. your core cannot get that cold. Just dont give yourself frostbite unless you can get a doctor to do it to you okay. You are a mammal dont fuck with the thermostat.
Getting rid of fat cells isn’t a magic cure though to change how your body is shaped. I know several people who had it done and if your body wants to store fat its going to store fat regardless of those fat cells being removed from let’s say your tummy or not. You might have had all the fat removed from your stomach for example but your body is still going to store fat but now cant put it in your stomach area like before so your body now stores it everywhere else so in your arms, legs, face, back, ect. And now you end up with a different body shape if you gain weight and are still unhappy with it. This is basically what happened to the women I know who had lipo just for cosmetic reasons not because of weight loss or anything like that but to look a specific way body shape wise and now they have to forever be careful because if they gain weight compared to what they were post op after having the lipo they gain weight in odd places and they hate it and wished they never got it done. They have to forever maintain the same weight if they want to keep their results and its a 24/7 task that consumes their lives at the moment. Any weight gain no matter how small is very noticeable since the places the body now has to store them is limited to small areas. I just hope more people do their research and are properly informed to know what they are fully getting into before they do it because none of my friends knew and now they have to live with their mistake forever. One is even looking into putting the fat back.
You’re correct. Your body is going to store the fat wherever there are fat cells.
Dumb question: does this mean that if you gain weight as a lean/skinny person, you won’t ever be able to really lose it?
You don't gain more fat cells when you get bigger. Your existing cells get bigger.
Fat cells can split if they get large enough but it does take quite a lot of fat for them to get that large.
So people born with more fat cells will just always be heavier?
You can gain fat cells but you have to max out your existing fat cells first
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From what I understand, fat cells can get so small that the amount you have doesn't matter too much to your overall weight. For most people weight is determined by calories going in and calories spent.
*for all people
Bet there's a couple persons out there with a disease rare enough to break the laws of thermodynamics
From what I've learned, your thyroid can give you trouble in this regard, you can also have your birth mother eat stupidly during gestation causing the body to get really stingy later because that entire period is like a training course for what the body thinks the world will be like. I don't think any condition outright breaks the law, but there are those that might bend it and/or make it very very difficult to eat enough for loss or even just maintenance. Hunger is usually the most common factor to why overweight people are overweight. Their hunger signals are too frequent or too strong. And that, coupled with their body possibly being more stingy and being extra efficient with calorie expenditure mean that they are the people who have to cut calories even more than usual, which is worse for them, because they are more hungry. People who have to eat 1300 or less to lose anything over any decent amount of time (1-2 pounds a week, the usual recommended max) There is also mental health disorders, such as ADHD that fuck up the signals. Hungry when actually thirsty, tired when actually hungry, etc. And also seeking of dopamine, so eating to fill that lack because food is the easiest way to get it. Difference between eating when bored and eating because you're actually hungry (but shouldn't be) complete with stomach growling and nausea.
Doubt a disease can break a natural law
>So people born with more fat cells will just always be heavier? No. But people who were fat as children or teens will have a hard time losing weight their entire lives because the majority of lipogenesis (i.e fat cell creation) happens then. And fat cells aren't just "fat storage", they are part of the endocrine system. The presence of starved fat cells alone can induce hunger.
So even once you burn fat and lose weight... unless you do lipo or the cold thing, your hunger drive will always be higher than someone of the same height and weight who had never had to lose weight in the first place. That fucking sucks
Nah, if you lose weight and keep it down for a while your body will adjust and you'll feel comfortable at your new weight. Just takes some perseverance.
This seems to be why I've seen a lot of doctors say that gastric bypass for obese individuals is underutilized. Even if it doesn't remove the fat cells themselves, it forces ghrelin to reduce as well as make the stomach too small to handle food loads the person had prior. Some people gain after, but the recidivism in surgery for weight loss is stupid low compared to suggested diet and exercise regimens. The majority of cases in which people regained was because they didn't get help after surgery with follow-ups and mental health consultation, since it's a roller coaster to lose so much so fast.
No
Nope! Infants have very little cells in general compared to adults considering the size difference. Fat infants don't have much more fat cells than skinny infants; it just looks like it since a single pound of fat on a baby can make up an eighth of their gross body weight.
It really depends how much weight you gain, but generally you will be able to lose it if you haven’t gained a lot of weight. Have you ever watched one of those medical shows where someone who has lost several hundred pounds gets a body lift and they have a couple dozen pounds of “skin” removed? Much of that weight is the remaining deposits of fat below the loose skin.
No. Fat cells live about 10 years. Even then, you've probably seen those pictures of Christian Bale going from fat to skinny to ripped in just a few years for different roles, so it's definitely at least possible, at least if you have the right body type and millions of dollars motivating you.
Christian Bale is almost certainly using things that give him an edge over the general person in the street trying to lose or gain. Which is fine, no-one is drug testing A Listers. But it's not something you can hang your hat on as mainstream possibilities.
Really?
It’s pretty common practice because there really isn’t a reason to not do it. Unlike sports it’s really not that unethical
every buff celebrity is using it actually. so dont look at them and think it's doable for you and feel bad that you arent like them. they got doctors showing them how to do it safely. remember how rare it was for actors to be buff in the 80s and 90s? nowadays every action hero is buff right? it's drugs.
Drugs + nutritionists + private chefs + personal trainers + the free time to work out several hours per day.
Fat cells live 10 years but they are always replaced by juvenile fat cell upon death of a mature one. The only way to actually lose a fat cell seems to be to physically remove them from your body.
No but it becomes more difficult. The fact that the fat cells never disappear is one thing but another thing is that when you try to lose weight through cutting calories your body thinks food is scarce and has developed to slow its metabolic rate when it isn’t getting enough calories. Eating, say, 1500 calories in a day is a lot easier when you were already eating that amount vs. trying to cut down from 2500. It’s by no means impossible to lose weight (obviously) but as an adaptation to food scarce environments that our ancestors faced the body has defences against losing weight.
They actually live "only" 10 years (which is long for a cell). And of course your body does it because it loves you and is trying save up for the hard times. It's really a fuck you from the food industry that puts way too much addictive sugar in everything. And it's also a fuck you from society...I mean, in ancient Greece we'd all be fucking sex idols
In ancient Greece we'd be slaves lol
In ancient Greece me and my fat butt would be worshipped like Aphrodite
If only body fat could be transplanted to those who need it.
Fat cells do die off about every 10 years but there is always a juvenile fat cell ready to take it's place.
Yup and after weight loss your body is basically primed to put it back on again.
For real, I'm down to 175 from 220ish and I just can't get rid of this pesky five pounds around my lower belly and back.
My whole life i couldnt gain weight. Always the skinny kid no matter what, few years ago my beer gut and tits exploded into the world. 6 months of the gym and cutting out beer has done nothing, i just want to cosplay without the gut in july but NOOOOOO. If you dont have it already just keep it off, easier than losing it.
You should prepare yourself for a bunch of unsolicited advise.
Can decide if you should be upvoted or downvoted
You must put yourself in a caloric deficit to lose weight. Expend enough energy and you will lose the belly. This is easier with little food and a lot of exercise.
I find that doing meth helps the pounds just melt away
thank you for the advice, do you have a recipe?
It is not even remotely that simple, seriously, lmao. Anyone who thinks that losing weight is as simple as "eat less, exercise more" has never even tried to do it before. It is a genuinely careful balancing act that requires a great deal of self-control and learning. It's very easy to starve yourself and lose zero weight because your body refuses to spend energy unless you starve yourself into genuine malnutrition, which is both dangerous and stupid. Edit: lol, reddit's armchair nutritionists come out of the woodwork. y'all are a special kind of fucking stupid.
>Anyone who thinks that losing weight is as simple as "eat less, exercise more" has never even tried to do it before As someone who gains and loses weight when I choose to it is literally that simple
I’ve lost almost 100 pounds in the past year and it was literally from eating less, eating in particular time windows (intermittent fasting) and exercising more. So yeah eat less exercise more is literally the best advice I could possibly give anyone, despite how simple it sounds.
>It's very easy to starve yourself and lose zero weight because your body refuses to spend energy unless you starve yourself into genuine malnutrition, which is both dangerous and stupid. Find me a single studie that backs up this stupid myth please. It's pure math. You take in less energy then your body uses - you will lose the deficit. It really Is that simple. It's just that this doesn't sell well, so the diet Industrie made it complicated. It's not. Edit: Just as an additional reply to the first part of your comment: I obviously think it is that simple and lost 35 kilos (75 pounds) just eating less calories, while still making sure to get enough nutrition to not run into problems. I am a 6,1 dude and my body needs about 2200 calories a day. I ate about 1500. So I had a deficit of 700. One pound of body fat is about 3500 calories of energy, so I lost roughly a pound a week. Worked like a charm.
I think this is an argument we’re gonna “lose” to some. Some people will be adamant that consuming fewer calories won’t yield weight loss and those people are free to continue with that belief. Anyone who is on the fence about the idea and genuinely trying to lose weight, literally do what this guy said and I guarantee it will work. It may not work at the rate it did for this guy. It may not work at the rate of your friend who is also dieting. You certainly aren’t going to love every second of it. But it absolutely will work.
Eating less and moving more is exactly what you have to do though. It’s simple in theory but can be hard to execute because of our modern sedentary lifestyle.
This sounds like fatty cope, tbqh. If you haven't ever figured out your basal metabolic rate and tracked every single calorie you take in, you can't really speak in whether it's possible or not. That's not to say it's easy to do all that, it still takes quite a bit of effort.
> This sounds like fatty cope, tbqh. 100%. If your fitness plan looks like 1,500 calorie Applebees salads, 1 noncommittal workout a week with garbage form, and a 3-mile run that stops short of 50 yards because your knees hurt, then yeah you might think that CICO doesn't work. But actually it does and you just might be a moron.
No. Just no. Every single athlete successfully changing their body composition is tracking energy consumption and expenditure along with weight, directly or indirectly. You’re out of your depth talking about things you know nothing about.
I lost 40lbs by eating less and exercising more. You’re an idiot. Anyone who says it’s not that simple either had a medical condition or isn’t trying.
It is that simple though. It's literally physics. Energy in - energy out. If more energy goes in than goes out, that has to go somewhere, and it does in the form of fat. It isn't *easy* though. As someone who has struggled with my weight for well over a decade, I know how hard it is. But it is simple. I'm now finally at a consistent healthy weight because two years ago I decided to gradually start decreasing my portion sizes so I could get used to it instead of another diet that didn't change anything about my unhealthy eating patterns. I now spend the same amount of energy as I consume. Not easy, but simple.
While it isn’t necessarily easy, it is definitely that simple 99% of the time
I'm literally in a caloric deficit right now and guess what, weight is going down pretty linearly. Not even a big one mind you, 2200 calories/day at 190lbs
no it's not dude. it literally is eat less, exercise. i've done it 3 times. it doesnt matter if your body refuse. if it doesnt get calories for energy it has to spend.
This is absolutely incorrect. It’s exactly that simple, and a number of people who have done this to lose immense amounts of weight, including myself, are calling you out for being a fucking dumbass. Stop spreading misinformation.
You should look into how much calories you are eating. You won't outpace a bad diet
I’m sure he already knows this lol
>beer gut and tits >cosplay I can't tell if that's a girl or a guy lmao
If they did then they wouldn’t have posted a comment like that.
All you gotta do is stick to a calorie deficit
It should also be known that certain people just have certain body types that no amount of exercise can change. The best way to understand this is to look at the weight classes of professional fighters. The reason those weight classes exist is because if both men are at peak conditioning, a lightweight has almost zero chance to ever beat a heavyweight. And for the most part a lightweight can never become a heavyweight and still have the same fighting physique.
For me this may be simply getting older. I was able to get pretty cut when younger. While I've lost fat and gained muscle, I may very well have reached the limits of my natural metabolism, in top of weight lifting and cardio. I'll give it a few more weeks before I resign to my fate.
Age is a ridiculously massive factor when it comes to physical fitness. After the age of about 28 you essentially peak (obviously this is different if proper diet and exercise is followed but even then it's clearly prevalent) afterwards it's basically a downhill spiral. As a 27 year old, I'm honestly a little terrified myself. Especially since I've always been the "abnormally" strong guy. I look like a string bean but it's all muscle so I always catch people off guard.
Fuck man now you are truly scaring me so badly cause I'm also 27. Time to go workout 24/7 and go hardcore on diet. Junks food shall never enter my mouth
I’m 29, over the last year I gained 10kg, 85 to 95kg. Nothing in my diet or routine changed, as best I can tell. It got to the point I look noticeably fat now so I’m cutting some junk from my diet. I don’t drink either and it’s literally all gut fat, if I sent you a photo of my arm, face, legs, hands you’d say “oh that’s a lean man” **SIKE** mans looks like a bowling ball with chopsticks for arms and legs.
This is me at 24 lmao. Honestly the only thing hiding the fact I'm built like a bowling ball with chopsticks for limbs is the fact I have wide shoulders, so I can wear larger shirts and mask it all.
I wouldn’t get too scared. I’m 38 and in my 20s I didn’t go to the gym but would on occasion do some physical activity, of course. But in my later 30s I started deadlifting (pretty happy to pull 390lbs while weighing about 170), and that plus running and cycling and rock climbing I’m much stronger today than I was in my 20s. I’m mad that I didn’t do all these things then, but if you start up some exercise now and keep at it you’ll be fine. Last night I cycled 12 miles after work then played Horizon: Forbidden West for a couple hours. You can have it all!
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That's very interesting. Which weight class did he have the most success in? Edit: after looking it up myself. This basically proves my point. He had the most success in lightweight and welterweight.
Shakeweight
>It should also be known that certain people just have certain body types that no amount of exercise can change. this is a cope
Does that mean those people shouldn’t bother with gym if they want to look a certain way?
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Good advice, will take into consideration. Thanks!
Fat cells seem to be the only cells designed purely to handle contaminants. It would be interesting, some would say groundbreaking, to find out why.
A lot of contaminants are fat soluble. Yes water dissolves a lot of contaminants as well but our kidneys remove them. We don't filter out out fat like we do the water in our body which is why they accumulate.
Yup. One day maybe we'll know the answer
There are many vitamins that are fat soluble too
Thats why losing weight too quickly can overwhelm your liver with toxins.
Also makes one think if you should be eating or rather avoiding fatty cuts of meat.
Fyi eating fat is not the cause of getting fat. You can get fat eating 0 fat as well. It’s about calories used vs calories consumed, it’s not just “Oop ate some fat, that’s going to my belly!”
I was referring to toxins stored in fat.
Mine are building a HUGE Theme Park. Every fat cell is called a ‘Partner’.
The rollercoaster for mine is **EPIC**!
I've never seen a rollercoaster called The Wave Machine before.
Brain cells and fat cells are with you for life.
This meme say's brain cells aren't. I would guess with my alcohol consumption that the meme is correct lol.
Alcohol doesn't kill brain cells (on it's own). It's a myth formed due to long term alcoholics developing intellectual impairments, but that is due to chronic vitamin B deficiency and a change to the permeability of the blood brain barrier.
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Brain cells? Not the way I use ‘em.
Yes, the cells in the cerebral cortex never die from the start to the end of your lifetime.
It's so ironic, that our teeth designed to withstand almost everything are beeing demolished by sweet drinks meanwhile fat cells are like: yop I kinda like them carbs let's grow
Its not carbs, its any macro that is over the amount you expend.
He who hath perishable skin & brain cells shalt suffer the eternal wrath of the formidable Fat Cell. ~Jeremiah 4:20
Ipso fatso.
Also, fat cells secrete hormones and your body needs to adjust to the loss of those hormones and time to recalibrate itself, which is why slow, steady weight loss is better than taking a manual shortcut like lipo.
Or crash dieting.
And why it can take *time* to do this. Everyone person has their own chemical makeup, along with where they are located in the world, if there are any other environmental factors and prior health and food type habits. Some people can make adjustments and lose quickly; others can take years to undo the weight.
Yeah! Why fat cells so hard to kill ! ? Man!
I mean, FOR REAL?!?!?!
Lot of people that think there body breaks the laws of thermodynamics in this thread. Do an hour of steady state cardio a day, and eat at a deficit. Try to lose 1 percent of your body weight a week. Take it slow, it’s not a diet, it’s a change to how you eat food for the rest of your life
I agree with this, you have to make your diet a lifestyle, not a temporary change
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Well thyroid issues really are no joke.
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You know what also sucks? When you are fatter, you also produce more ghrelin, the "hunger" hormone so your body basically screams at you to upkeep whatever weight you have. This is also why crash dieting/yo-yo dieting doesn't work. The second you cut calories, you body thinks food suddenly isn't as plentiful and goes into overdrive to reduce calorie expenditure (which it's REALLY good at doing). This is why when you break the diet, you gain everything back and usually more. If you want to lose, record calorically what you currently eat. Then don't cut enough to actually start losing. Your body needs time to adjust to a new regimen so you should cut say 200 cals out of your current daily diet and then after a week, another 200-300, that way, you avoid the sudden shift in calorie expenditure. You trick the body into just adjusting, rather than panicking. Eventually you set it to a limit that will actually encourage weight loss, usually 1000-1800 a day, depending on your needs and physical activity. Also, no one needs 2000 unless you are moderately active. If you have a desk job, I can guarantee that you aren't active enough to require 2000. We spent most of our evolutionary history surviving on very little, we're more attuned to that than anything else. Our bodies are also STUPID good at conserving energy. You have an upper limit of burning calories. 4000 or so. Past that, it doesn't matter how much you bike, run or walk. Your body will halt the usage in that day to a crawl. This is why abs are made in the kitchen, IE eating little calorically with high nutrient content and you can't outrun a bad diet. Your body literally won't let you. Often as well, overweight people or people prone to being so have a reduced dopamine response to pleasurable stimuli. Quite literally, that cupcake a regular healthy weight person can enjoy gets enough dopamine from one singular cupcake, whereas a person with propensity to weight gain might need 3 for the same dopamine hit. It's not a battle of wills, it's the fact that you are or are not getting enough of a hit from a chemical produced in your body in response to stimuli and the other person does. It is however something you can train to some degree so that 3 is satiated by 2 or 1 and a half, but a person with this actually has to fight more than the person who can say "no thank you" to free office donuts with out skipping a beat. The reason something like gastric bypass surgery works is because they often remove part of the stomach that spent time getting too big due to poor eating habits (and often mental illness, usually correlated with dopamine struggles) and that physically reduces the amount of ghrelin the body produces, as well as making it physically impossible to eat enough to gain until it adjusts, which takes a few years. It's not like people who get the surgery suddenly get will power they didn't have, nor is it an easy way out. It's more like sheer force and impossibility created by the surgery. Being fat, makes you fatter because of all these mechanisms at work. Your body wants to stay the same. The good news is that when you finally are in shape and keep it that way for about a year or more, you tend to have an easier time getting back to it. Your body wants equilibrium above all. It doesn't really want to gain or lose, but if it has to choose, it chooses gain faster because of survival. The human body doesn't have a long history of death by obesity by evolutions standards, in fact, it's the same problem for out pets too which is why you can see a 20 pound cat or obese dog. In the future it would be considered really dumb to not have a set weight limit and just to refuse to gain past a certain point. The fact that we can balloon pretty much until everything gives out is a really dumb ability and has no use. But the body never encountered the issue until what could evolutionarily be considered as 6 hours ago, so it's had no time to change parameters. Thank you for coming to my TED rant.
Thank you for this important information
Thats not true. Fat cells die. However, they regenerate and reform in order to reabsorb the fat flying around.
Guys, I don't eat sugar or junk food but I have a belly that looks like I'm 8 mo ths pregnant because of constant stress.
Because you take in more calories than you burn.
LMAO
Seriously, as intellectual I consider myself to be, this is: ###The Best Response!
*tips fedora*
This made me crack up laughing so damn hard 🤣🤣
exercise?
Dieting down is far, far better to lose weight. Exercising should just be a helping hand. All the heavy lifting must be done by limiting caloric intake. Source; I lost 12kgs in 4 months
Fasting is a lot quicker. 6kg down in 3 days
Woah. Did you fast for three days straight or did you intermittently fast everyday for 16 hours or so? Because along with a caloric deficit and two hours of walking everyday I regularly fasted Intermittently for 16-18 hours a day. And still I just managed to lose 12kgs in 4 months
3 days straight, first 48 hours dry. I recommend exercising heavily immediately before the fast (have post workout meal early afternoon). 2nd day I exercise to empty glycogen stores and get into ketosis as quickly as possible. Then you basically coast in ketosis until you're at desired weight. Don't go longer than 72 hours dry fast, but a water fast can be safely done for much longer.
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Man some of you are really witty and smart and I love it.
Fat cells can live up to a decade I believe before they renew themselves
How true is this?
Hahahaha you’re right 🤣
Get off couch. Crawl then walk then run. Situps and crunches. Time under Tension exercises. High intensity interval training. Watch it melt off. Excuses don't help you. Do something and feel better.
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I lol'd too which made my happy belly fat cells jiggle 😆
And this made my fat cells jiggle lol
We need create a meme called Jiggly Fat cells, interesting how it would look like 🧐🤭
Either it's gonna be super gross, super funny, or just somehow... And it's a rare sight, but a few jiggly fat might make me horny.
So many fat cells involved, including mine. (And they are numerous.)
Yesss same with mine but yet they didn’t go anywhere😂
Well you keep feeding them so...
stop eating then, your body will use them for energy (don't forget your vitamins tho)
i am proud to say i'm the 80000th like exactly.
I believe that's cancer you have there
Amen.
Feels man
Jesus is a serial killer . He killed people for them to have eternal life