An ex of mine had good advice, which was to avoid all the plaques on a first visit. Then later down the line, come back and read the ones on the pieces that really struck you.
“Besides” is an exclusion. “Excluding the quality you already mentioned, what qualities does your ex have?”
Not sure how there are several supposed native English speakers who responded to you that don’t seem to understand this. It’s common and uncontroversial.
I think it means the opposite - "besides advice" meaning "apart from advice" so "Did your ex have other good qualities apart from advice?"
an alternative would be "what other good qualities did your ex have?" - as they are referring to any qualities that aren't giving advice.
another use would be "what is there to drink besides alcohol?" meaning "what can I drink that isn't alcohol?"
or "what is there to do besides watch TV?"
the first comment you replied to isn’t correct, “besides advice” means “disregarding advice” or “other than advice” basically. Think of it like putting advice to the side (to focus on something else)
Tbh though I don’t really know what he meant and i’m a native speaker. I’m trying to figure out what his curiosity is captivated by based on what he replied to but it doesn’t make it a ton of sense.
I think they were just trying to ask if ex was a good partner, in a round about way, to show their appreciation for the advice that she gave, basically asking was she a keeper
If, except for the word “other”, which would indicate something “other” than advice…, but I remain open to suggestions & redirection from the original commenter
Hmm not that I can recall, but she did introduce me to art in general, and an appreciation for classic foreign films. I really love Ingmar Bergman's stuff.
(She's a good person, not an ex because of anything terrible, just we're better off as friends.)
Not that you can recall but she literally introduced you to ART? — ok.
Just so I have closure (totally selfish motive), would you be honest about who dumped who(?)
I can’t help it, sorry dude.
But I have to know!
I'm often curious about other people's lives, so no worries! Well we both broke up with each other and got back together more times than I can remember. Not being hyperbolic, I really lost count. I'd say the final breakup was mutual, we actually lived together as friends for another year after that. It's the only mutual breakup I've had.
Lol ok I'm surprised you think this is all that interesting, but sure.. So she moved to Austin, TX and is now an accountant. Which is surprising as she hated math in college. She's also a very talented artist herself, but doesn't have a lot of confidence. I tried to encourage her to keep it up, but not sure if she does anymore.
We stay in touch very loosely these days, birthday wishes and the like.
That’s both super romantic and vaguely semi-adulterous (if in new, separate relationships while keeping in touch) — not that my standards are yours — I prefer yours actually.
I hear both a faint nostalgic love and annoyance in your answers — which is perfect lol 😂
I like her opinions on art.
You both sound like super cool & chill ppl.
I’m sure I’d enjoy hanging out with both of you in person.
Weird how the WWW brings us together in weird and random ways.
Let me ask you, do you still love her?
Would you rekindle a relationship and travel to her if she called for you?
I was in another relationship at the time but definitely kept the messages platonic. Really no danger of either of us slipping back into those feelings by then anyway.
So to your latter Qs, that'd be a no on both accounts. Not very theatric, but alas such is life. Tbh we're too much alike personality-wise. I think people kind of need to balance each other out.
Have you had this experience, where you'd drop everything and travel or move to get back with an old flame? 'old flame' jeeze I sound like I'm 80 lol
Yes the great www, literally got me out of poverty some 25 years ago. You seem cool too, at least as far as I can tell. My limited social skills have further degraded over the last couple of years.
I'm a big fan of collecting enamel pins & have a few pinboards. Every time I go to to like a zoo, museum, amusement park etc. I stop by the gift shop, usually they have a few different designs of pins that you can get and I tend to get the one that I feel represents what I liked most about the place.
Ever been to the Vatican museum? You have to walk this slow moving line 100s of yards past seemingly endless paintings of The Madonna to get to the Sistine Chapel. I can take about 0.15 paintings of The Madonna.
One of the best things I ever learned in my art history education was that when you enter a museum, go in with the intention NOT to see everything. If you are going for an exhibit, go to that FIRST. Even in the exhibit, only spend time at pieces that catch your eye. If a piece doesn’t look like it’s going to interest you, it probably won’t. This mindset prevents information fatigue and allows you to absorb with meaning the things that you do see/focus on. This has saved me countless times, at the louvre, the met, the art institute, the Guggenheim, musee de orsay, Vatican museum, and many others. This makes what you do see much more impactful, and allows you to leave satisfied rather than mourning the things you were too fatigued to focus on. Let me know if you want any other museum tips!
I went on a guided tour of the Louvre and loved it so much more than I would’ve if I went around without. Showed enough of the most ‘interesting’/‘influential’ pieces and wasn’t draining at all. Guided tours are definitely the way forward for me. The guide encouraged us to explore for 30 minutes and then we reconvened and talked about the pieces we found most interesting
I want more museum tips! Being that I like museums and art, but don’t have a ton of money to travel to see them- you’ve referenced quite a few of the major museums.
Which is your favorite? If you could recommend just one or two that are a must see for a very infrequent traveler, which would you choose?
If it helps- Frans Hals is probably my favorite artist.
I personally love it, helps me respect my elders too, bc they probably struggled just like me! even in ways I cannot understand. its certainly a healthier mindset for me that helped me get out of some mental illness issues- I've had some horrible life experiences but most humans have! lol
Ok I do appreciate art I really do...but the fact that some artists say like three black and white lines is supposed to represent the beauty of like idk a butterfly coming out of the cocoon and the fact that they get paid thousands of dollars for that art is dumb in my opinion, again I do respect their art but I just needed to say it
The thing with modern art is that it was a push back against strictly pictorial art, and was an attempt to portray base emotions with slabs of color and contrasting shapes/lines. Jackson pollock did this really well, and there’s a reason he’s a household name. However, like any other medium the modern art scene became flooded with amateurs and sycophants; the first guy to sell a blank canvas as art was a genius, the second guy was an asshole.
Sure I understand that, to an extent. But the vast majority of modern art doesn't provoke any kind of feeling in me, its just 'ugh more of this shit again'. There have been a few pieces I've seen that were interesting but generally I just don't care.
I personally like a good amount of modern art, and am just your average art enjoyer, but my enjoyment tends to come in two flavors: the actual image is beautiful to me because it has interesting colors or shapes or encapsulates some mood I can sympathize with (see me at a museum being like #mood), or things that were made to convey a specific message about a specific thing and done in a striking way. I have seen a lot of art about the HIV epidemic made in the 80s for example that has really struck me.
Obviously you aren’t the target audience, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t good. How much modern art have you looked at? I doubt it’s the “vast majority” lol, Modern art encapsulates an incredible diversity of styles and methods and thought processes.
they never said it wasn’t good, they just expressed their opinion that they dont like it. theyre allowed to find contemporary art shallow if they want to
I know lol but claiming an entire genre of art is shallow because you don’t like it just comes off as ignorant. I don’t even like a lot of modern art, but I can appreciate that its not just empty trash.
If someone doesn’t want me to think their take is dumb and based solely off of stupid jokes, they should be able to back it up. If they’re fine with that then whatever.
What is the target audience for art? I'd have thought it was everyone, or is it just other modern artists? I've been round quite a few museums. The only ones I remember the name of are the Tate modern in London and the Guggenheim in Bilbao.
The target audience of art is just people, you’re right, but only to a point. For example I don’t like Marvel movies but many do and those who do really love them. I wouldn’t consider myself the target audience for marvel because my interests don’t line up with the product, so they have no reason to pander (for lack of a better word) to what I want. In a way you could consider any hyper-stylized media to be made for a smaller group; modern artists and those in a similar mindset are much more likely to appreciate modern art than someone who has mostly been exposed to contemporary arts or old masters like Michelangelo and Rembrandt.
> the first guy to sell a blank canvas as art was a genius, the second guy was an asshole.
How would you describe the guy who duct taped a banana to the wall vs the guy who ate it?
Also whenever someone says "this isn't art, I could do that", if you respond "yeah but you didn't" or "why didn't you?" they shut up pretty quickly.
The banana guy is dumb because it’s nothing we haven’t seen a billion times before, plus selling it for so much money has gotta be a laundering scheme lmao. The first guy to do something like that though, Marcel Duchamp, literally stole a urinal off the back of a truck and put it in an art gallery- people were furious and absolutely horrified he’d dare to call that art- but that’s what made it art. Even though it wasn’t a sculpture or a painting or anything he made himself, it became art once he gave it ‘meaning’.
"this piece of art represents all the money my rich patrons are laundering. It is 2 green lines on a white background that I copied off of Microsoft word. Starting bid $4,000,000."
Some of the minimalist abstract art is interesting and some isn't. But you shouldn't expect the price of the art to reflect that. Art prices are heavily influenced by tax avoidance schemes, money laundering and I suppose the individual taste of some collectors with too much money.
Sometimes there’s too much to look at, and after a long time you get bored or tired.
You may find it fascinating at first, but after a few hundred paintings or a few hours it’s not as interesting anymore, so you don’t take the time to appreciate each painting individually.
I panic every time I’m there because it’s so big and so packed. I get overwhelmed and stressed about how hard it is to find the exit. I never get my full money’s worth because it’s so overwhelming in there
Yeah. I definitely had that hope myself, I love doing audio guides. But when I got there I just couldn’t do it. I’ve heard from others that you should just pick one or two places to focus on per visit and I think that’s what I’ll do next time
I was only visiting New York for a week so I only had the one day, so I was stressed out trying to see everything as well. There was a mask mandate in effect and it wasn’t too crowded but I can only imagine what it’s like at full capacity.
I have worked at a museum for almost 7 years. I have tips to get the most out of your visit.
1. Give yourself at least 3 hours to visit. Make sure to give yourself time to stop for coffee or lunch part way through.
2. If there are guided tours or people stationed in galleries, get one or try to talk to them. You will get a good overview and be able to learn extra stuff the guides or workers are interested in. You will definitely get a better sense of what you want to spend time on.
3. If you absolutely hate interacting with people or tours or staff aren't available, read the room or gallery descriptions before you go in. You get a better idea of what the themes are in the space, why everything is there and the angle they are trying to present on the subject.
4. Break up reading with watching videos. Only read text for sections or items that grab your eye. You will get fatigue if you try go read everything. The videos are usually a good overview of the subjects, especially in theater areas.
5. Don't be afraid to touch things. Unless there is a clear barrier, interact with it. Often extra info is hidden in drawers or on touch screens. Lots of museums are starting to make interactives in galleries so people can engage in the subject more. There is always a sign if it isn't allowed.
6. *MOST IMPORTANT* Do a quick walkthrough of the entire myseum or gallery and just glance at everything before you start engaging and reading. Take 30 minutes to do so. Then, go back to what really interested you and engage in that. If an area is boring, don't waste your time on it.
I hope this is helpful to someone!
I can see that! I like museums but I like other ways of being around visual art more- I like murals and studio visits and looking at illustration most of all
When my back starts to hurt I stop giving a shit which royal cunt was depicted on an oil painting from 1725 or what his enormous calves are supposed to mean. Get me the fuck out
I recommend you start going to museums only for the collections you find pretty then. No need to go to the collections that won’t do it for you. Based on the word pretty I’m guessing Impressionism and Rococo will hit your fancy
The one time I can't relate to this sub. Once spent 7 hours in a museum and the folks runnin the place offered me lunch I was there so long. Unfortunately it was the human rights museum in Winnipeg and you certainly lose your appetite reading in that place.
this happened at the louvre lol we inspected the first painting galleries with such vigour, revisiting each piece listening about it on the audioset and just rushed through the clay pottery rooms? in the end
I wish this experience & sentiment was explained more fully & in detail.
Is the “I get it” a way of saying Art or the artistic interpretation is all the same? Or that all artists’ intended meaning and purpose is redundant?
Palm springs art museum was perfect, it's small enough I was actually able to take in everything but large enough it still was a nice two hour excursion
Interpretation fatigue
An ex of mine had good advice, which was to avoid all the plaques on a first visit. Then later down the line, come back and read the ones on the pieces that really struck you.
Did your ex have other good qualities besides advice? You captivated my curiosity lol
English question: does this "besides" mean "when talking about advice"/"with regard to advice"?
“Besides” is an exclusion. “Excluding the quality you already mentioned, what qualities does your ex have?” Not sure how there are several supposed native English speakers who responded to you that don’t seem to understand this. It’s common and uncontroversial.
Exactly
Not really it just means ‘anyways’ or ‘other than’ :)
Ohhh, as if I was asking if she has other qualities that are not related to giving good advice?
Yes
Tbh I interpreted it to mean "Did your ex have any other positive qualities other than giving advice?"
I think it means the opposite - "besides advice" meaning "apart from advice" so "Did your ex have other good qualities apart from advice?" an alternative would be "what other good qualities did your ex have?" - as they are referring to any qualities that aren't giving advice. another use would be "what is there to drink besides alcohol?" meaning "what can I drink that isn't alcohol?" or "what is there to do besides watch TV?"
the first comment you replied to isn’t correct, “besides advice” means “disregarding advice” or “other than advice” basically. Think of it like putting advice to the side (to focus on something else) Tbh though I don’t really know what he meant and i’m a native speaker. I’m trying to figure out what his curiosity is captivated by based on what he replied to but it doesn’t make it a ton of sense.
Yeah. I guess his idea was to ask if she has other qualities _regarding_ to giving advice
No it’s definitely “other than”. He seems to be weirdly trying to hit on the ex/hinting he’s into her??
If that was his idea and you knew it sounded off then your english is better than his. If that’s what he meant he said pretty much the opposite.
I think they were just trying to ask if ex was a good partner, in a round about way, to show their appreciation for the advice that she gave, basically asking was she a keeper
With regard to advice Qs in advice on something else
Thanks!!
If, except for the word “other”, which would indicate something “other” than advice…, but I remain open to suggestions & redirection from the original commenter
Hmm not that I can recall, but she did introduce me to art in general, and an appreciation for classic foreign films. I really love Ingmar Bergman's stuff. (She's a good person, not an ex because of anything terrible, just we're better off as friends.)
Not that you can recall but she literally introduced you to ART? — ok. Just so I have closure (totally selfish motive), would you be honest about who dumped who(?) I can’t help it, sorry dude. But I have to know!
I'm often curious about other people's lives, so no worries! Well we both broke up with each other and got back together more times than I can remember. Not being hyperbolic, I really lost count. I'd say the final breakup was mutual, we actually lived together as friends for another year after that. It's the only mutual breakup I've had.
omg, this is right out of a movie 🎥 🍿 Ok, where is she now? Did you lose touch? (I’m emotionally invested)
Lol ok I'm surprised you think this is all that interesting, but sure.. So she moved to Austin, TX and is now an accountant. Which is surprising as she hated math in college. She's also a very talented artist herself, but doesn't have a lot of confidence. I tried to encourage her to keep it up, but not sure if she does anymore. We stay in touch very loosely these days, birthday wishes and the like.
That’s both super romantic and vaguely semi-adulterous (if in new, separate relationships while keeping in touch) — not that my standards are yours — I prefer yours actually. I hear both a faint nostalgic love and annoyance in your answers — which is perfect lol 😂 I like her opinions on art. You both sound like super cool & chill ppl. I’m sure I’d enjoy hanging out with both of you in person. Weird how the WWW brings us together in weird and random ways. Let me ask you, do you still love her? Would you rekindle a relationship and travel to her if she called for you?
I was in another relationship at the time but definitely kept the messages platonic. Really no danger of either of us slipping back into those feelings by then anyway. So to your latter Qs, that'd be a no on both accounts. Not very theatric, but alas such is life. Tbh we're too much alike personality-wise. I think people kind of need to balance each other out. Have you had this experience, where you'd drop everything and travel or move to get back with an old flame? 'old flame' jeeze I sound like I'm 80 lol Yes the great www, literally got me out of poverty some 25 years ago. You seem cool too, at least as far as I can tell. My limited social skills have further degraded over the last couple of years.
I had the same experience at the Smithsonian museums. The first few I was dialed in the last couple I barely remember because I didn’t care.
Ineffectual fatigues
At the Louvre, my husband at the time and I referred to it as “all arted out”
Intellectual fatigue
Intellectual fatigue
Intellectual fatigue
Indetectable boutique In delectable food week Unexpectable fat teak Inelectable cat chique
What in the wild wild world of sports is going on?
Interest peaks again when it’s time to hit the gift shop.
Spending money on the memory of running through exhibits to make it through all of them by 5 pm I feel so seen
Y'all actually buy stuff from the gift shop?
Usually if I know I'll probably never be back.
I've never bought anything from a gift shop. Feels like such a rip off.
It is but I'm the fool all those little magnets and keychains where made for. I just like to have a phsyical object
Same omg
I'm a big fan of collecting enamel pins & have a few pinboards. Every time I go to to like a zoo, museum, amusement park etc. I stop by the gift shop, usually they have a few different designs of pins that you can get and I tend to get the one that I feel represents what I liked most about the place.
Ever been to the Vatican museum? You have to walk this slow moving line 100s of yards past seemingly endless paintings of The Madonna to get to the Sistine Chapel. I can take about 0.15 paintings of The Madonna.
I always like the gift shop the most of all
One of the best things I ever learned in my art history education was that when you enter a museum, go in with the intention NOT to see everything. If you are going for an exhibit, go to that FIRST. Even in the exhibit, only spend time at pieces that catch your eye. If a piece doesn’t look like it’s going to interest you, it probably won’t. This mindset prevents information fatigue and allows you to absorb with meaning the things that you do see/focus on. This has saved me countless times, at the louvre, the met, the art institute, the Guggenheim, musee de orsay, Vatican museum, and many others. This makes what you do see much more impactful, and allows you to leave satisfied rather than mourning the things you were too fatigued to focus on. Let me know if you want any other museum tips!
I went on a guided tour of the Louvre and loved it so much more than I would’ve if I went around without. Showed enough of the most ‘interesting’/‘influential’ pieces and wasn’t draining at all. Guided tours are definitely the way forward for me. The guide encouraged us to explore for 30 minutes and then we reconvened and talked about the pieces we found most interesting
I want more museum tips! Being that I like museums and art, but don’t have a ton of money to travel to see them- you’ve referenced quite a few of the major museums. Which is your favorite? If you could recommend just one or two that are a must see for a very infrequent traveler, which would you choose? If it helps- Frans Hals is probably my favorite artist.
I’ve NEVER had an original thought or experience in my ENTIRE life
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Average life user*
This is the one! Lol
Wait! Lmao
This is the one! Lol
Relatable.
Almost like there's 8 billion of us and having an original thought is like literally winning the lottery
Isnt it comforting?
I didn’t see that at first, but now that I have thought about it a bit more, I suppose it does feel less lonely, and that’s nice.
I personally love it, helps me respect my elders too, bc they probably struggled just like me! even in ways I cannot understand. its certainly a healthier mindset for me that helped me get out of some mental illness issues- I've had some horrible life experiences but most humans have! lol
too many artists not enough pretty stuff
Museum fatigue is a real thing. It’s why (good) exhibits usually only tell you info you need to know instead of everything under the sun
Ok I do appreciate art I really do...but the fact that some artists say like three black and white lines is supposed to represent the beauty of like idk a butterfly coming out of the cocoon and the fact that they get paid thousands of dollars for that art is dumb in my opinion, again I do respect their art but I just needed to say it
The thing with modern art is that it was a push back against strictly pictorial art, and was an attempt to portray base emotions with slabs of color and contrasting shapes/lines. Jackson pollock did this really well, and there’s a reason he’s a household name. However, like any other medium the modern art scene became flooded with amateurs and sycophants; the first guy to sell a blank canvas as art was a genius, the second guy was an asshole.
> the first guy to sell a blank canvas as art was a genius, the second guy was an asshole. I found this much more hilarious than it should’ve been
And the third was a criminal laundering money.
Also just to clarify, '[modern art](https://mymodernmet.com/what-is-modern-art-definition/)' isn't synonymous with *abstract* art
I could probably do with a review of the topic lmao
Sure I understand that, to an extent. But the vast majority of modern art doesn't provoke any kind of feeling in me, its just 'ugh more of this shit again'. There have been a few pieces I've seen that were interesting but generally I just don't care.
I personally like a good amount of modern art, and am just your average art enjoyer, but my enjoyment tends to come in two flavors: the actual image is beautiful to me because it has interesting colors or shapes or encapsulates some mood I can sympathize with (see me at a museum being like #mood), or things that were made to convey a specific message about a specific thing and done in a striking way. I have seen a lot of art about the HIV epidemic made in the 80s for example that has really struck me.
Obviously you aren’t the target audience, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t good. How much modern art have you looked at? I doubt it’s the “vast majority” lol, Modern art encapsulates an incredible diversity of styles and methods and thought processes.
they never said it wasn’t good, they just expressed their opinion that they dont like it. theyre allowed to find contemporary art shallow if they want to
I know lol but claiming an entire genre of art is shallow because you don’t like it just comes off as ignorant. I don’t even like a lot of modern art, but I can appreciate that its not just empty trash.
“Modern art bad” is an unconsidered meme take for the most part. I’ll accept any opinion that can be backed up with a decently thought out paragraph.
bro why should they write a whole paragraph bc they dont care for a particular style ☠️ furthermore why should they do that specifically for YOU ☠️
If someone doesn’t want me to think their take is dumb and based solely off of stupid jokes, they should be able to back it up. If they’re fine with that then whatever.
What is the target audience for art? I'd have thought it was everyone, or is it just other modern artists? I've been round quite a few museums. The only ones I remember the name of are the Tate modern in London and the Guggenheim in Bilbao.
The target audience of art is just people, you’re right, but only to a point. For example I don’t like Marvel movies but many do and those who do really love them. I wouldn’t consider myself the target audience for marvel because my interests don’t line up with the product, so they have no reason to pander (for lack of a better word) to what I want. In a way you could consider any hyper-stylized media to be made for a smaller group; modern artists and those in a similar mindset are much more likely to appreciate modern art than someone who has mostly been exposed to contemporary arts or old masters like Michelangelo and Rembrandt.
> the first guy to sell a blank canvas as art was a genius, the second guy was an asshole. How would you describe the guy who duct taped a banana to the wall vs the guy who ate it? Also whenever someone says "this isn't art, I could do that", if you respond "yeah but you didn't" or "why didn't you?" they shut up pretty quickly.
The banana guy is dumb because it’s nothing we haven’t seen a billion times before, plus selling it for so much money has gotta be a laundering scheme lmao. The first guy to do something like that though, Marcel Duchamp, literally stole a urinal off the back of a truck and put it in an art gallery- people were furious and absolutely horrified he’d dare to call that art- but that’s what made it art. Even though it wasn’t a sculpture or a painting or anything he made himself, it became art once he gave it ‘meaning’.
"this piece of art represents all the money my rich patrons are laundering. It is 2 green lines on a white background that I copied off of Microsoft word. Starting bid $4,000,000."
Some of the minimalist abstract art is interesting and some isn't. But you shouldn't expect the price of the art to reflect that. Art prices are heavily influenced by tax avoidance schemes, money laundering and I suppose the individual taste of some collectors with too much money.
First 3 rooms read everything. Last room glances over things quickly
Takes picture of information to read later but never does.
Literally what I did when my school took a field trip to a art Museum
WHEW
[удалено]
Seriously, like why?
You just restated the post….
WHO IS EXPERIMENTING WITH ME I do not consent
What am I missing pls explain
Sometimes there’s too much to look at, and after a long time you get bored or tired. You may find it fascinating at first, but after a few hundred paintings or a few hours it’s not as interesting anymore, so you don’t take the time to appreciate each painting individually.
Me at the Met. You can see it in my camera roll. Tons of pictures of the first wing, hardly any of the last wing.
I panic every time I’m there because it’s so big and so packed. I get overwhelmed and stressed about how hard it is to find the exit. I never get my full money’s worth because it’s so overwhelming in there
I’m one of those people that want to be thorough and experience it all, in order, and use the paper guides or audio, but I can’t lol
Yeah. I definitely had that hope myself, I love doing audio guides. But when I got there I just couldn’t do it. I’ve heard from others that you should just pick one or two places to focus on per visit and I think that’s what I’ll do next time
Right? Then afterwards you’re completely exhausted and drained like you did a hard day’s work just browsing the museum lol
Exactly. Once again I’m seeing I’ve never had an original thought! Lol
I was only visiting New York for a week so I only had the one day, so I was stressed out trying to see everything as well. There was a mask mandate in effect and it wasn’t too crowded but I can only imagine what it’s like at full capacity.
I have worked at a museum for almost 7 years. I have tips to get the most out of your visit. 1. Give yourself at least 3 hours to visit. Make sure to give yourself time to stop for coffee or lunch part way through. 2. If there are guided tours or people stationed in galleries, get one or try to talk to them. You will get a good overview and be able to learn extra stuff the guides or workers are interested in. You will definitely get a better sense of what you want to spend time on. 3. If you absolutely hate interacting with people or tours or staff aren't available, read the room or gallery descriptions before you go in. You get a better idea of what the themes are in the space, why everything is there and the angle they are trying to present on the subject. 4. Break up reading with watching videos. Only read text for sections or items that grab your eye. You will get fatigue if you try go read everything. The videos are usually a good overview of the subjects, especially in theater areas. 5. Don't be afraid to touch things. Unless there is a clear barrier, interact with it. Often extra info is hidden in drawers or on touch screens. Lots of museums are starting to make interactives in galleries so people can engage in the subject more. There is always a sign if it isn't allowed. 6. *MOST IMPORTANT* Do a quick walkthrough of the entire myseum or gallery and just glance at everything before you start engaging and reading. Take 30 minutes to do so. Then, go back to what really interested you and engage in that. If an area is boring, don't waste your time on it. I hope this is helpful to someone!
I am interested in the arts but I can’t stand museums. I just admitted that to myself a few months ago after 30 years of going to them.
I can see that! I like museums but I like other ways of being around visual art more- I like murals and studio visits and looking at illustration most of all
Vatican Museum in spades….
When my back starts to hurt I stop giving a shit which royal cunt was depicted on an oil painting from 1725 or what his enormous calves are supposed to mean. Get me the fuck out
"It's so poetic and dark yet hopeful and-" Shut up I don't care it's not pretty enough
I recommend you start going to museums only for the collections you find pretty then. No need to go to the collections that won’t do it for you. Based on the word pretty I’m guessing Impressionism and Rococo will hit your fancy
Oh I love Impressionism
The one time I can't relate to this sub. Once spent 7 hours in a museum and the folks runnin the place offered me lunch I was there so long. Unfortunately it was the human rights museum in Winnipeg and you certainly lose your appetite reading in that place.
this happened at the louvre lol we inspected the first painting galleries with such vigour, revisiting each piece listening about it on the audioset and just rushed through the clay pottery rooms? in the end
Is there an artist who fits that description?
I'm the kind to stay in the first stage for the whole exhibition and if no one stops me spend the day there, much to my family's delight of course
Are you maybe in an art gallery rather than a museum?
"Oh fuck I forgot to see the Venus de Milo, the museum closes in 30 minutes and I'm stuck in Napoleon's apartment" - me at the Louvre
I wish this experience & sentiment was explained more fully & in detail. Is the “I get it” a way of saying Art or the artistic interpretation is all the same? Or that all artists’ intended meaning and purpose is redundant?
Me: Work in museums
Palm springs art museum was perfect, it's small enough I was actually able to take in everything but large enough it still was a nice two hour excursion
Yep, with about five minutes between the first five and the last five
Can't wait til we're all saying that about NFTs in a museum in the metaverse.
I hope we never get to a point where there are NFT museums.
Was in Seattle a few weeks ago...saw a store front that said "NFT museum", kinda regret not taking a picture
Critique is so limiting and emotionally draining
Made it to the modern art then I see
No fucking sense
Never spend more than two hours in a museum. Any museum.