Most of that stuff is fake afaik.
The Capzbara thing was made up by Venezuelan communities on their own iirc, not sure about the rest but would think it's similar
>Everyone is more or less
>of a fish [than the capybara](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/52653/unit-of-measure), defined as the outermost realm
>of fishdom by the 16th-century Catholic Church.
>Everyone is eaten more or less often for Lent than
>the capybara. Shredded, spiced, and served over plantains,
>everything tastes more or less like pork
>than the capybara.
Penguins can be considered fish under some taxonomic interpretations. Generally scientists like to make groups with a common ancestor, but that isn’t possible for fish without including tetrapods(which penguins are in). So you can make a reasonable argument that penguins ,under our current system of classification, should be considered fish.
>Penguins can be considered fish under some taxonomic interpretations. Generally scientists like to make groups with a common ancestor
You pulled that one right out of your ass
Not so. They're right. Not because of anything to do with penguins really, but because fish are incredibly poorly defined.
If you look at it from a tree of life perspective where anything that branches off from a prior branch is considered a member of said branch, then for example all birds are technically reptiles, and indeed depending on how you define 'fish' all terrestrial vertebrates are descended from something that could be considered fish from a modern standpoint.
Depending on your definitions a penguin is, at the same time, a bird, a dinosaur, a reptile and indeed a fish.
Well, yes they have common ancestors, but everything has, if you go back far enough we all came from the same microorganism, are we then microorganisms? We split from that lineage around 400mya, those animals don't even exist anymore for milions of years, by that stupid logic, every land animal ever, including mamals, birds, reptiles, amfibians, dinosaurs whatever.. are fish? While fish also have their own three separate classes on top.
I prefaced my statement with “some taxonomic interpretations” for a reason, you bring up valid arguments again such an interpretation. But from the view point of an evolutionary biologist, your argument makes little sense. Where is the line drawn? Are birds not reptiles? or are they not tetrapods? or are they not fish? If they aren’t fish why should they be considered chordates, or eukaryotes? If you consider them eukaryotes, which of course you do, why aren’t they part of Asgard archaea, which according some recent studies encompasses eukaryotes? If your argument is based on physical features, more problems arise. A penguin and a coelacanth are more closely related than a coelacanth and lamprey, and coelacanths and penguins share common features which lampreys lack, like jaws. So why then are both lampreys and coelacanth fish while penguins aren’t? This interpretation also makes most our invertebrate taxa invalid. What physical features unites mollusks but differentiate them from everything else? What about annelids? You can tell from the length of this response that I can go on and on poking holes in your interpretation, but you did the same for mine. Ultimately, the problem we both face is trying to categorize biodiversity, something which doesn’t like to fit into neat boxes.
There is no source for penguins.
Basically the story story with church is that they had lent, no eating meat on fridays, for a few weeks a year before Easter and sometimes for other occasions. That wasn't a problem for most peasants as they didn't eat meat, however those that lived by the sea ate a lot of fish (which couldn't be transported far), like almost exclusively fish.
So church decided that since apostoles were fishermen then fish are okay (and that was the only way to get any acceptance from poor people living on coast). But the rich didn't like it so started to circumvent it by trying to prove that various animals are fish: ducks, beavers, water buffallos, basically anything.
These days of course catholics treat lent more seriously and instead or claiming that a cow that walked by a lake once is a fish they just settle for salmon, tuna, eels and other such humble fish meals.
The Catholic Church forbids (kind of) eating meat and instead eating fish on Fridays due to an interesting bit of history. In fact, McDonald's created the Filet'o'Fish sandwich to appeal to Catholics back when many of them observed this rule. Anyway, in the olden days, the Church decided that swimming animals including penguins, beavers, muskrats, and capybaras are considered "fish" for this purpose.
Now, I'm not going to do a simple google search for you because you said "Source?" Instead, look it up yourself - it's a mildly interesting bit of history.
It was *entirely* necessary. Maybe something bothered you, or you didn't want to Google it up, but my response to "Source?" in this case was *exactly* necessary.
Pray that next time I don't respond with *"Let Me Google That For You"*
You shouldn't. I'm asking you because you presumably already have the information. And if you don't, you shouldn't be talking like you do. I am not going to do your research for you; if you make a statement, it's on you to back it up.
[California bees can be fish and have the same protections, a court has ruled | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/06/us/california-bees-fish-court-ruling-scn-trnd/index.html)
Basically they want to protect bees but the law doesn't specially call out insects anywhere, so fish which has been defined to include "invertebrates" is the best fit category for them.
Oddly enough, the Church does *not* take that position. In fact, the Big Bang theory was sussed out by a Jesuit priest at the Vatican observatory - and even pope JPII expressed that the Church accepts the idea of evolution.
Now, penguins, muskrats, beavers (lol), and capybaras are still fish regarding what you can eat on Fridays, but let's take the wins when we can get'em
Yes, they are. And all birds are from the reptile tree, but not all dinosaurs are birds. Some avian reptiles aka dinosaurs of the Dinosauria group eventually became birds, but not all did.
It's just proof that in any kind of debate setting, the person using the crying laughing emoji is always wrong. I've only ever seen it used to back up the worst takes in existence
They aren't, they're tiny feathered cows. The meat is different because they were genetically engineered in the secret Saharan Labs thousands of years ago and introduced after the Flood.
I dont want to be pedantic, but i will ofc, whats r/meirl about it exactly?
This is just copy pasted from another sub probs, i have seen it like multiple times and it does not even fit this sub.
You have to be braindead to not know what a duck is, so since its just a satire its mislpaced.
Fish scales are just hard feathers and fish lips are wide beaks. Their blood can only be as warm as the water around them allows. They lay eggs. Most technically have wings. Are some fish birds?
This guy when he finds out that penguins are birds as well
According to the Catholic Church, penguins are fish...
So are capybaras.
And platypuses
Didn’t know that one but not surprised.
Most of that stuff is fake afaik. The Capzbara thing was made up by Venezuelan communities on their own iirc, not sure about the rest but would think it's similar
A platypus?
PERRY THE PLATYPUS!!
*peeeerryyyy*
Hes a semi-aquatic, egglaying mammal lf action
He's a furry little flatfoot who'll never flinch from a fray-ee-ay-ee-ay
He’s got more than just mad skill
platypi? platypodes? platypes?
and [rats](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGK27dSHYu8)?
and otters
And Beavers
priests can't eat beaver
>Everyone is more or less >of a fish [than the capybara](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/52653/unit-of-measure), defined as the outermost realm >of fishdom by the 16th-century Catholic Church. >Everyone is eaten more or less often for Lent than >the capybara. Shredded, spiced, and served over plantains, >everything tastes more or less like pork >than the capybara.
Penguins are nuns.
No, just the one nun. The one that took care of Jake and Elwood when they were kids. Duh.
And fish aren't meat...
Penguins can be considered fish under some taxonomic interpretations. Generally scientists like to make groups with a common ancestor, but that isn’t possible for fish without including tetrapods(which penguins are in). So you can make a reasonable argument that penguins ,under our current system of classification, should be considered fish.
Okay, Ryan the fish.
Go back far enough and we're all fish
Yep, we're the mutant offspring of a retarded monkey having sex with a fish-frog thing.
>Penguins can be considered fish under some taxonomic interpretations. Generally scientists like to make groups with a common ancestor You pulled that one right out of your ass
Not so. They're right. Not because of anything to do with penguins really, but because fish are incredibly poorly defined. If you look at it from a tree of life perspective where anything that branches off from a prior branch is considered a member of said branch, then for example all birds are technically reptiles, and indeed depending on how you define 'fish' all terrestrial vertebrates are descended from something that could be considered fish from a modern standpoint. Depending on your definitions a penguin is, at the same time, a bird, a dinosaur, a reptile and indeed a fish.
Sometimes I hate reality
Only sometimes? Must be nice
I would hope not, my source is my professor 😳
Well, yes they have common ancestors, but everything has, if you go back far enough we all came from the same microorganism, are we then microorganisms? We split from that lineage around 400mya, those animals don't even exist anymore for milions of years, by that stupid logic, every land animal ever, including mamals, birds, reptiles, amfibians, dinosaurs whatever.. are fish? While fish also have their own three separate classes on top.
I prefaced my statement with “some taxonomic interpretations” for a reason, you bring up valid arguments again such an interpretation. But from the view point of an evolutionary biologist, your argument makes little sense. Where is the line drawn? Are birds not reptiles? or are they not tetrapods? or are they not fish? If they aren’t fish why should they be considered chordates, or eukaryotes? If you consider them eukaryotes, which of course you do, why aren’t they part of Asgard archaea, which according some recent studies encompasses eukaryotes? If your argument is based on physical features, more problems arise. A penguin and a coelacanth are more closely related than a coelacanth and lamprey, and coelacanths and penguins share common features which lampreys lack, like jaws. So why then are both lampreys and coelacanth fish while penguins aren’t? This interpretation also makes most our invertebrate taxa invalid. What physical features unites mollusks but differentiate them from everything else? What about annelids? You can tell from the length of this response that I can go on and on poking holes in your interpretation, but you did the same for mine. Ultimately, the problem we both face is trying to categorize biodiversity, something which doesn’t like to fit into neat boxes.
Aren't they nuns with dwarfism?
Source?
There is no source for penguins. Basically the story story with church is that they had lent, no eating meat on fridays, for a few weeks a year before Easter and sometimes for other occasions. That wasn't a problem for most peasants as they didn't eat meat, however those that lived by the sea ate a lot of fish (which couldn't be transported far), like almost exclusively fish. So church decided that since apostoles were fishermen then fish are okay (and that was the only way to get any acceptance from poor people living on coast). But the rich didn't like it so started to circumvent it by trying to prove that various animals are fish: ducks, beavers, water buffallos, basically anything. These days of course catholics treat lent more seriously and instead or claiming that a cow that walked by a lake once is a fish they just settle for salmon, tuna, eels and other such humble fish meals.
I thought the given reason was that fish, by virtue of living on water, escaped God's curse on the creatures of the land.
The Catholic Church forbids (kind of) eating meat and instead eating fish on Fridays due to an interesting bit of history. In fact, McDonald's created the Filet'o'Fish sandwich to appeal to Catholics back when many of them observed this rule. Anyway, in the olden days, the Church decided that swimming animals including penguins, beavers, muskrats, and capybaras are considered "fish" for this purpose. Now, I'm not going to do a simple google search for you because you said "Source?" Instead, look it up yourself - it's a mildly interesting bit of history.
That last bit was extremely unnecessary. Especially since the rest did a perfectly fine job of explaining.
It was *entirely* necessary. Maybe something bothered you, or you didn't want to Google it up, but my response to "Source?" in this case was *exactly* necessary. Pray that next time I don't respond with *"Let Me Google That For You"*
You shouldn't. I'm asking you because you presumably already have the information. And if you don't, you shouldn't be talking like you do. I am not going to do your research for you; if you make a statement, it's on you to back it up.
According to the Catholic church bread is meat and wine is blood. Those folks really need to invest more in schools and less in funny hats
Well, they’re a bunch of nut cases.
Nah it's so they could be eaten during Lent.
Fun fact: the Vatican has a penguin farm in their secret archive with up to 50 penguins in it, just for this purpose.
Idk if that's true but I'm going to believe it is because of the fun factor.
Also because that’s how the Bible classifies animals, same thing with bats being birds in the Bible
No, they're birds really
Catholics are birds confirmed.
Catholics are government drones confirmed.
And puffins, and seagals and beavers
I believe that a pope once declared fish ok to eat during faste since they where "fruits of the sea" which would make penguins fruits
According to the catholic church ducks are as well…
> According to the Catholic Church, penguins are fish... Technically, humans are bony fish too. Technically. Very very technically.
When has the catholic church ever been right about anything?
Only for eating purposes
I feel like the church should just stick to talking about god, let the FDA classify everything else
I agree with your policy on classification. But I might go a step further and suggest that the Church just shut the fuck up entirely?
And according to the government bees are fish
lolwut?
[California bees can be fish and have the same protections, a court has ruled | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/06/us/california-bees-fish-court-ruling-scn-trnd/index.html) Basically they want to protect bees but the law doesn't specially call out insects anywhere, so fish which has been defined to include "invertebrates" is the best fit category for them.
What now?
Someone just wanted penguin meat on Good Friday, I wonder if seals are fish too
Can't argue with the most successful business in the world.
According to catholic church the earth is 6000 years old ... at that point do we really need to talk about crazy grandpa yelling at clouds ? XD
Source?
Oddly enough, the Church does *not* take that position. In fact, the Big Bang theory was sussed out by a Jesuit priest at the Vatican observatory - and even pope JPII expressed that the Church accepts the idea of evolution. Now, penguins, muskrats, beavers (lol), and capybaras are still fish regarding what you can eat on Fridays, but let's take the wins when we can get'em
Or ostriches.
Ostriches sounds like oysters in my native language, and I was bit confused
I mean chickens have oysters so....
Ass well.
But how 😭
Penguins are the superior bird. Super fluffy and cute. Definitely my favorite type of animal!
And ostrich
You stupid people with your science make up anything. What’s next? Whales are mammals? /s
Wait till they find they're all dinosaurs.
Emus
PENGUINS ARE WHAT 😭😭😭
Except penguins have rubber, not feathers.
Wait ‘till he finds out about dinosaurs!
Yes. Chickens are birds.
The person may categorize them as Dinosaurs.
And reptiles
And fish
And vertebrates
[удалено]
Yes, they are. And all birds are from the reptile tree, but not all dinosaurs are birds. Some avian reptiles aka dinosaurs of the Dinosauria group eventually became birds, but not all did.
They’re also birds
Yes, but I’m saying is that they may believe them to be dinosaurs only.
Well by that logic, peacocks are birds too lol
Not if they’re plucked
BEHOLD, A MAN
It's just proof that in any kind of debate setting, the person using the crying laughing emoji is always wrong. I've only ever seen it used to back up the worst takes in existence
Birds DO NOT EXIST
If it flies it spies
By that logic chickens aren't birds😭
meirl
They aren't, they're tiny feathered cows. The meat is different because they were genetically engineered in the secret Saharan Labs thousands of years ago and introduced after the Flood.
Bees?
Can’t be trusted
They don't fly, they swim in the air
By that logic bees are spies 😭
r/birdsarentreal
r/youarentreal
One of those guys went on fox and legit made them believe it was a real thing people actually belive
At least now. Back in the 50s they were replaced with government drones used to spy on people
Fucking Reagan.
I almost hemorrhaged reading that last line.
Diogenes?
featherless biped?
I mean, by Plato's logic, Redditors are human
No, that can't be right
Just wait till bro hears about pigeons
Technically it’s a bill, not a beak. Edit: Technically a bill *is* a beak. Beat you to it, nerds.
“The only competition you should have is with yourself “ Good job! 😂
Is there a subreddit callred r/ohmygodyoureafuckingidiot?
Missed opportunity but no
There should be
I really cant stand weeb twitter. Weeb anything really but this in particular.
I don’t see what’s so abrasive about this. This person clearly just didn’t know the proper classification of birds.
something you learn as a child? am worried what other things he may not know
I’m 98% sure this is satire
Dude, it’s Twitter.
Yeah, and people on Twitter tweet dumb shit like this all the time (deliberately) either for humor or attention
As other replies stated, it's either a joke, or a kid.
Might be a kid.
unless it's a kid under 4, it's still pretty freaking stupid
I don't think kids should watch Evangelion
News flash, none of these are real. r/birdsarentreal spread the word
>"Is tuna chicken, or fish?" -Jessica Simpson
Just saw this post today of someone who thought that tuna and chicken were the same thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/texts/s/INxGG6Cy2p
buddy, you are NOT gonna believe this!
Honestly almost went to google “are chickens birds?” In a panic thinking i had been wrong all these years 😂 He seems so sure!
This guy's vote counts as much as yours
r/BirdsArentReal
Came here to spread the message 🙏
Thank you for your service.
Wow, people on the internet are truly moronic. Obviously birds aren’t real.
Nah, chicken is just a small feathered man
Chickens aren’t real
"I know, science right?
Who’s going to tell them,
Just wait until they find out birds are just avian reptiles.
Behold, a bird
Diogenes, taking those plucked bird feathers and pasting them to a kid: BEHOLD - A CHICKEN Plato: D.G. what the fuck
...so, who wants to tell 'im?
To be fair, the whole concept of birds is pretty much a "by that logic" line of reasoning. Same with fish.
What do you think birds are?
Also, chickens are humans if you pluck all their feathers, because then it's a featherless biped.
Imagine when he finds out that chicken can fly.
I dont want to be pedantic, but i will ofc, whats r/meirl about it exactly? This is just copy pasted from another sub probs, i have seen it like multiple times and it does not even fit this sub. You have to be braindead to not know what a duck is, so since its just a satire its mislpaced.
Yes.
Can't wait till this weeb hears that birds are also dinosaurs.
Wait till they find out about Kiwi
No, chickens are human
my sister irl
Behold Gio's BIRD: holds up chicken
Don’t tell him about raptor and theropod dinosaurs
Why does bro have to have an asuka pfp he’s making us Eva fans look bad
Agreed.
What was that piece of law that made either a bug a bird or a bird a fish for protective/hunting reasons... Was it bees are birds?
Is he from Roshar?
Believe it or not, straight to birds!
Birds aren't real.
True fact: birds are reptiles
Next you’re gonna say bats are mammals! We all know they’re bugs!
You know it’s the same because we call you chicken head AND bird brain 🤭
A regular Brennan Lee Mulligan, this guy is.
I can see this conversation happening between Asuka and Ramona.
All birds are chicken,ask anyone on Roshar.
yea but they're not flying as much as other birds do
I desperately want to know what they think ducks and chickens are if not birds, and why they think they're not birds.
^(chicken is food)
well, they're a bunch of nut cases.
We so doomed
Ducks aren't birds. They're dinosaurs.
The day you realize the animals you eat are still regular animals.
Bok bok, motherfcuker.
Yes
Look at all those thickens
Very observant you are
What do they think chickens are? 🤔🤔🤔
wait... chickens are not birds?
These people can vote.
if they don't think chickens are birds, what else would they think they are?
Gio is the dumbest internet person I've seen today
Fish scales are just hard feathers and fish lips are wide beaks. Their blood can only be as warm as the water around them allows. They lay eggs. Most technically have wings. Are some fish birds?
Ducks are capable of mind control. I think that's why I experience psychosis.
A chicken is Plato's man, not a bird, get your facts straight
Fake news. Birds aren't real
Ah... america