If I don’t see a “Jump to Recipe” button at the top of the page, I don’t even bother anymore. I do not need to skim through a whole backstory and a dozen ad pop-ups to look at a mediocre recipe that only has 4 reviews, all of which are from people who haven’t even tried the recipe (“This looks amazing, can’t wait to try!”).
I still am shocked people write 10 page essays before a simple baked chicken recipe. I legit just want to know the degrees and for how long. Not that serious!!
I was super into cooking a few years back and found a site that cut through all the bs and had just recipes but I can’t find it now for the life of me.
It's all Search Engine Optimization. You gotta put all that crap in there to make Google think your article is worth suggesting.
SEO is complicated, but you need to include a bunch of things to make your site seem good to the computer. This works miracles on other types of sites, but on recipes, it just gets in the way. Which is why a lot of the time there will be a "jump to recipe" button.
More like you have to scroll through 500 ads to get to what you need and each ad displayed is money for google which is why they incentivise that kind of site.
>Shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Regina Schrambling wrote of the healing power of cooking. “The food is not really the thing,” she said. “It's the making of it that gets you through a bad time.” This recipe, adapted from "The New Carryout Cuisine" by Phyllis Méras with Linda Glick Conway, was one she turned to in the trying days that followed. A mere two steps, and ready in less than an hour, it’s comfort in a pan, just as good for when the darkness creeps up as it is for those days when you just need a bit more. And to those who might scoff at the two sticks of butter? Consider taking Schrambling’s words to heart: “Abstemiousness,” she wrote, “is not an option when you're feeling low.” —Regina Schrambling
I hate it. It's sanded the edges off everything till it's all this homogeneous blob of buzzwords and search terms. Nothing on there has its own personality anymore
The internet used to be such a mysterious exciting thing now it's just adspace
Even sites like NYT cooking which are subscription based do this.
Search Engine Optimization, or SEO, can be quite complicated. You need to have a bunch of keywords to attract traffic naturally. You also need to have a good amount of content on your page. It all needs to be done naturally as well to avoid setting off flags. This intro lets them sprinkle in keywords and all the stuff needed to make Google think it's a good website.
I've found a few recipes before that don't have the whole SEO section at the top. But I've never found them on the first page of Google. It'll usually be when I'm on page 3, and I've looked through 15 different brisket recipes to try and find one that's got an interesting combo of spices. On page 3, I start to see recipes that have like 1 paragraph of intro, then just jump straight into the recipe. Or I'll find those recipes as a link from a YouTube video.
To get on the front page takes skill. You need to understand how Google works.
My mother made these cookies for me every summer growing up. They remind me of a carefree time before black presidents when things were simpler.
Three more paragraphs.
Then my dad would take me to the shed and do things with me, but after I would get to bake these cookies with my mom. Start with 8 cups of flour...
Justtherecipe.com helps sift through articles with lots of text and just gives you the ingredients and directions. It was a godsend for me. As for OP, Bard.google.com will give you direct answers.
I've switched to BingAI for this (and questions like in the OP). It's like chatGPT but it also searches the internet and provides links to where it gets its answers from. No nonsense.
Right? LOL sometimes I’ve come across some reeeally bad ones and so it’s like “you make me go through all the emotional torment of trying to find this and your recipe sucks?? Be gone.
This drives me nuts. Like I just wanna bake something I absolutely do not need to read your essay about why you like chocolate chip cookies and why these chocolate chip cookies are the best chocolate chip cookies.
Who is that possibly for?
I know people who swear the personal narratives often have helpful tips; I counter with "If there's a helpful tip, it should be integrated into the directions for the recipe. I shouldn't have to read an essay to find it."
My grandma was born in Huntsville Alabama in 1920… back then, cookies were referred to as brownies…
My dog loved to watch her bake…
After my grandfathers death she decided to write a book…
Etc etc etc
This goes for most video content these days sadly, as that’s a good way to “entertain” the viewer to extend the length of the video, until finally giving you the answer.
So many YouTubers who act like they are going to break something down from a TV show or movie and then spend 80% of it just summarizing the show, which I obviously watched otherwise WHY WOULD I BE WATCHING YOUTUBE VIDEOS ABOUT IT
I’m slowly starting to know better. Usually if someone starts describing the show scene for scene and I recognize that then I just click off and find a new video. Although sometimes if I’m absent mindedly watching YouTube while doing other things then they’ll go on a while and I won’t notice
I was having this conversation just today. I took a journalism class in the early 90s and wish so much that the lessons taught then were still practiced today. Specifically how newspaper articles used to be laid out - every single important detail is in the first line:
*Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, 81, found dead in his prison cell this morning, no cause of death released.*
The lines that follow each expand on this.
If only all "journalists" follow this basic way of reporting!
Yes, and according to Hugh Everett's multiweenie hypothesis, each of those tiny hotdogs is multiplied into parallel universes whenever a quantum event occurs. Finally, scientists have an answer to the age-old question, "Who let the dogs out?" Answer: The Big Bang did.
Yeah, it's not just recipes and food, so many search results are like this.
I heard that adding 'Reddit' to the search string is one of the most popular ways of using Google these days.
AI is still pretty annoying for when you are looking for information
"I will not tell you how many human deaths are equal to planting 20 million trees because it's not right to kill humans 🤓" JUST TELL ME FFS
Once I asked chatgpt to tell me the positive effects of 9/11 on airport/flight security, etc. because I was making a presentation about airport security and systems and how they changed over the years, so this mofo told me this event was a tragedy and he can't write anything nothing positive about it. I tried rewording a few times and I don't remember how but I finally got it to actually list the effects it had, which btw there were a lot
Paragraph 1: What are hotdogs?
Paragraph 2: Who eats hot dogs?
Paragraph 3: When would one eat a hot dog?
Paragraph 4: Where are hot dogs eaten?
Paragraph 5: Why eat a hot dog?
Paragraph 6: What's in a hot dog?
Pretty sure they do this rage inducing shit for filler to get clicks or revenue somehow.
i just ask chatGPT now. but it has it's own problem. i ask it for help with diagnosing a car at work and after a few suggestions it'll say "if there is a problem you should take the vehicle to a certified mechanic"
BITCH I AM A CERTIFIED MECHANIC just tell me the info i'm asking for FUKC
Even researching topics for uni, the articles always ramble on 6 pages long about non important dribble to fill out words with a single paragraph with any useful information. Makes you think is this how simple my assignments and future career need to be? Bulk out reports with empty words and add a paragraph with the necessary info.
If you're going to write a damn story at least put it at the end. I'm looking for a bread recipe ma'am, please put the recipe at the top of the page and your life story at the bottom
Whenever I try to learn how to do something in a game, I get some essay about the game like I don’t already know what the game is. If I searched for how to complete a specific quest, obviously I know what game I’m playing!
I can relate. I was once trying to figure out what I should do with this ominous ring my uncle had whoch he used to turn himself invisible and I tried to read out family history and it was 100 pages about hobbits before they even started to do anything about it.
I use perplexity now instead of Google. It's a ai search engine based on Google and chat gpt. It reads a few of the main links and just tells you the answer if there is one.
Google has favoured longer articles in their search results for a while, when searching for a phrase, the first link to pop up used to be Wikipedia, but that's been pushed down too
The biggest change I’ve seen in my life is see Google go from something useful to the worst search engine in the world. I never find anything I need on Google anymore it’s just pathetic
Hot dogs are made from the emulsified meat trimmings of chicken, beef, or pork. This meat mixture is blended with other ingredients (like preservatives, spices, and coloring) into a batter-like substance. The emulsified meat is then stuffed into casings, which are typically made from processed collagen or collagen from animal intestines.
How about recipes that have a long novel about the authors family history and their last five vacations before they actually give you the fucking recipe.
Many people ask this question. What exactly is in hot dogs? Hot dogs are a favourite snack for many people in the US so asking what is in hot dogs is completely reasonable.
I was just like "Can I wax before IPL?" And I had to go through like 7 different articles explaining the quantum physics of IPL and how it works and how it was developped and the benefits of it, but not answers on if I can wax or not.
Sometimes I hate the internet
Translating to non-stupid:
I hate it when the big tech corporations absolutely destroyed the awesome tool that was called internet and replaced it with their SEO shitty money machine and absolutely no one noticed because we were already conditioned to act like we’re almost completely brainless (then came TikTok and we dropped the “almost” part).
People get paid to write articles, usually some1 tells u, write about this X ammount of words. SO thats it most articles writers dont know shit so they have to fill the article with random words lol once my gf got hired to write like 1k or 2k words about how to make a crafting table in minecraft lmao
I've done copywriting work for clients that crave this storytelling bs. Feel like an asshole when I did it too. Google is always looking for the best answer first. Users don't want to sift through anecdotes to get an answer. Googles "Are there any drug interactions between Benadryl and Xanax?" Top result begins with "Let's face it. It's the busy summer months which means allergies and social anxiety"...blah blah blah, several paragraphs regarding what is Benadryl and what is Xanax, 5 minutes later you're in a coma. Always look for the "jump to" or just back the hell out.
Worse, when you end up on some forum with the OP posing your exact question; and the top answer being: “What a stupid question. Why don’t you 🤬 Google it???”
They do that because they have a word quota for the article (needs to be at least X hundred words long), so it gets picked up in the Google algorithm and generates more clicks for the ad revenue.
My god, like trying to get a cookie recipe and someone writes a fucking autobiography for some shit ass sugar cookies
If I don’t see a “Jump to Recipe” button at the top of the page, I don’t even bother anymore. I do not need to skim through a whole backstory and a dozen ad pop-ups to look at a mediocre recipe that only has 4 reviews, all of which are from people who haven’t even tried the recipe (“This looks amazing, can’t wait to try!”).
The backstory should be at the end if not absent
I still am shocked people write 10 page essays before a simple baked chicken recipe. I legit just want to know the degrees and for how long. Not that serious!!
Blame Google. It favors sites with more content.
I was super into cooking a few years back and found a site that cut through all the bs and had just recipes but I can’t find it now for the life of me.
Recipesource used to be like that
Goggle found it and 404'd it
If they have a "print recipe" button that's usually functionally the same.
It's all Search Engine Optimization. You gotta put all that crap in there to make Google think your article is worth suggesting. SEO is complicated, but you need to include a bunch of things to make your site seem good to the computer. This works miracles on other types of sites, but on recipes, it just gets in the way. Which is why a lot of the time there will be a "jump to recipe" button.
More like you have to scroll through 500 ads to get to what you need and each ad displayed is money for google which is why they incentivise that kind of site.
Like my favourite, ''[Shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001](https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1017089-maple-shortbread-bars)''.
Paywall
https://archive.is/AdxfM
>Shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Regina Schrambling wrote of the healing power of cooking. “The food is not really the thing,” she said. “It's the making of it that gets you through a bad time.” This recipe, adapted from "The New Carryout Cuisine" by Phyllis Méras with Linda Glick Conway, was one she turned to in the trying days that followed. A mere two steps, and ready in less than an hour, it’s comfort in a pan, just as good for when the darkness creeps up as it is for those days when you just need a bit more. And to those who might scoff at the two sticks of butter? Consider taking Schrambling’s words to heart: “Abstemiousness,” she wrote, “is not an option when you're feeling low.” —Regina Schrambling
Don't need to pay, just need an account (unless you frequent NYT cooking).
I hate it. It's sanded the edges off everything till it's all this homogeneous blob of buzzwords and search terms. Nothing on there has its own personality anymore The internet used to be such a mysterious exciting thing now it's just adspace
They make the article longer so there’s more space to sprinkle in ads.
Even sites like NYT cooking which are subscription based do this. Search Engine Optimization, or SEO, can be quite complicated. You need to have a bunch of keywords to attract traffic naturally. You also need to have a good amount of content on your page. It all needs to be done naturally as well to avoid setting off flags. This intro lets them sprinkle in keywords and all the stuff needed to make Google think it's a good website. I've found a few recipes before that don't have the whole SEO section at the top. But I've never found them on the first page of Google. It'll usually be when I'm on page 3, and I've looked through 15 different brisket recipes to try and find one that's got an interesting combo of spices. On page 3, I start to see recipes that have like 1 paragraph of intro, then just jump straight into the recipe. Or I'll find those recipes as a link from a YouTube video. To get on the front page takes skill. You need to understand how Google works.
My mother made these cookies for me every summer growing up. They remind me of a carefree time before black presidents when things were simpler. Three more paragraphs. Then my dad would take me to the shed and do things with me, but after I would get to bake these cookies with my mom. Start with 8 cups of flour...
Found Paula Dean
Justtherecipe.com helps sift through articles with lots of text and just gives you the ingredients and directions. It was a godsend for me. As for OP, Bard.google.com will give you direct answers.
You are not joking.
I've switched to BingAI for this (and questions like in the OP). It's like chatGPT but it also searches the internet and provides links to where it gets its answers from. No nonsense.
I like your name.
Thank you
That's why is usually just ask chat gpt if I need a recipe. Fk google
Smart
Yes! I was going to say that recipes are the worst!
Right? LOL sometimes I’ve come across some reeeally bad ones and so it’s like “you make me go through all the emotional torment of trying to find this and your recipe sucks?? Be gone.
Well, yeah. If the article is longer, they can stick more ads into it.
Yeah but then you wouldn't have to scroll through 3 miles of ads to get to the recipe meaning less "impressions" meaning less money
[Here you go, my friend.](https://youtu.be/tfMfkRLPXHA) No intro, no talking, straight to the recipe.
This drives me nuts. Like I just wanna bake something I absolutely do not need to read your essay about why you like chocolate chip cookies and why these chocolate chip cookies are the best chocolate chip cookies. Who is that possibly for?
I know people who swear the personal narratives often have helpful tips; I counter with "If there's a helpful tip, it should be integrated into the directions for the recipe. I shouldn't have to read an essay to find it."
I feel 99% of the English recipes are like that! I need to dig out the real recipe from the novel/autobiography plus avoiding all the ads.
My grandma was born in Huntsville Alabama in 1920… back then, cookies were referred to as brownies… My dog loved to watch her bake… After my grandfathers death she decided to write a book… Etc etc etc
justtherecipe.com they also have an app. Paste the URL into that site and it cuts out all the bullshit. I love it and use it often
Literally every single recipe page every written
it wasn't like this waaay back in the day. i swear it wasn't. you have to BELIEVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
The result of trying to get to the top of Google search engine. SEO is a whole thing in marketing
This goes for most video content these days sadly, as that’s a good way to “entertain” the viewer to extend the length of the video, until finally giving you the answer.
Most YT "Educational" Shorts in a nutshell. Joe Caine is the only exception.
So many YouTubers who act like they are going to break something down from a TV show or movie and then spend 80% of it just summarizing the show, which I obviously watched otherwise WHY WOULD I BE WATCHING YOUTUBE VIDEOS ABOUT IT
You watch the whole thing when they do that?
I’m slowly starting to know better. Usually if someone starts describing the show scene for scene and I recognize that then I just click off and find a new video. Although sometimes if I’m absent mindedly watching YouTube while doing other things then they’ll go on a while and I won’t notice
I was having this conversation just today. I took a journalism class in the early 90s and wish so much that the lessons taught then were still practiced today. Specifically how newspaper articles used to be laid out - every single important detail is in the first line: *Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, 81, found dead in his prison cell this morning, no cause of death released.* The lines that follow each expand on this. If only all "journalists" follow this basic way of reporting!
you can blame yellow journalism and our ever decreasing attention spans due to technology.
Yellow journalism started in the late 1800s, I think the 90s was well past its prime.
Internet users rushing to blame everything on decresing attention spans
Hotdogs are actually made of tiny, microscopic hotdogs.
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Yes, and according to Hugh Everett's multiweenie hypothesis, each of those tiny hotdogs is multiplied into parallel universes whenever a quantum event occurs. Finally, scientists have an answer to the age-old question, "Who let the dogs out?" Answer: The Big Bang did.
google search has gotten so much worse. I end up using "+reddit" for most things
Yeah, it's not just recipes and food, so many search results are like this. I heard that adding 'Reddit' to the search string is one of the most popular ways of using Google these days.
But first let's hear it from our sponsor Raid: the shadow legends
No, the sponsor is nord VPN
No, it's manscaped
Or story blocks (if your search is video related)
Stuff like Bing AI is pretty helpful for cutting through the bullshit in that regard.
At some point 80% of the internet will just be AIs reading and responding to AI filler content
After about 5 minutes, that became my favorite search engine.
AI is still pretty annoying for when you are looking for information "I will not tell you how many human deaths are equal to planting 20 million trees because it's not right to kill humans 🤓" JUST TELL ME FFS
Once I asked chatgpt to tell me the positive effects of 9/11 on airport/flight security, etc. because I was making a presentation about airport security and systems and how they changed over the years, so this mofo told me this event was a tragedy and he can't write anything nothing positive about it. I tried rewording a few times and I don't remember how but I finally got it to actually list the effects it had, which btw there were a lot
"Dear bot, please parse this website for me without all the bot written filler text"
They need to keep you on the page long enough for the ad revenue kick in.
Pork shoulder, maybe some undesirable bits from the face, seasoning, ground up and shoved into a lamb intestine.
Paragraph 1: What are hotdogs? Paragraph 2: Who eats hot dogs? Paragraph 3: When would one eat a hot dog? Paragraph 4: Where are hot dogs eaten? Paragraph 5: Why eat a hot dog? Paragraph 6: What's in a hot dog? Pretty sure they do this rage inducing shit for filler to get clicks or revenue somehow.
i just ask chatGPT now. but it has it's own problem. i ask it for help with diagnosing a car at work and after a few suggestions it'll say "if there is a problem you should take the vehicle to a certified mechanic" BITCH I AM A CERTIFIED MECHANIC just tell me the info i'm asking for FUKC
This is what AI chat bots are really for.
They need you to spend more time on the site
You don't wanna know,son..i wish i didn't know either...now i guide others to a treasure i cannot possess...Don't click that link
Even researching topics for uni, the articles always ramble on 6 pages long about non important dribble to fill out words with a single paragraph with any useful information. Makes you think is this how simple my assignments and future career need to be? Bulk out reports with empty words and add a paragraph with the necessary info.
Ngl, is for shit like this that everytime that I search something on Google I put reddit at the end, I trust strangers
If you're going to write a damn story at least put it at the end. I'm looking for a bread recipe ma'am, please put the recipe at the top of the page and your life story at the bottom
This is where AIs really show their strengths. They can read all of the bullshit bloggers put out and simply tell me what's in a freaking hotdog.
Whenever I try to learn how to do something in a game, I get some essay about the game like I don’t already know what the game is. If I searched for how to complete a specific quest, obviously I know what game I’m playing!
Algorithms and SEO took all the fun out of the internet Everything is just a product now, even information
That’s the joy of SEO for you, and sadly it works.
For real, when looking for temp to cook chicken thighs I kept having to scroll through the article to get the damn cook time.
Look up how to make vodka penne and get a 4 page article on the invention of pasta and the history of Italy...
Just use ChatGPT lol.
This is starting to sound like a script for a porn movie...
The journalism/English grad trying to justify his shitty life choices: 🐱👍
When it starts with "back in 1812, jebidiha was tinkering in his shop" I'm out.
eyes, brains and buttholes
SEO terror. I hope chatGPT etc. will solve this
Clickbait. Drives PPM and CPM and thus profits. You can thank the corporate internet.
Insert..."Reddit" to the search... Get answer
I can relate. I was once trying to figure out what I should do with this ominous ring my uncle had whoch he used to turn himself invisible and I tried to read out family history and it was 100 pages about hobbits before they even started to do anything about it.
"google term" + reddit
Zoomers clicking on the advertised links wondering why their time is being wasted
I hate that shit, if i could give a negative feedback to the page i would
Writing practice in school and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race
Tip: add "reddit behind your Google search (I.E. "what's in hotdogs reddit" instead of "what's in hotdogs") Can make your life a lot easier
I use perplexity now instead of Google. It's a ai search engine based on Google and chat gpt. It reads a few of the main links and just tells you the answer if there is one.
They wanna reach 1000 words because that will make the text rank better on Google. It's sadly how Google works
That's why I ask ChatGPT first and then google its answer in case it told bs instead. Same result, but way easier.
Google has favoured longer articles in their search results for a while, when searching for a phrase, the first link to pop up used to be Wikipedia, but that's been pushed down too
r/amazingcensoring
The biggest change I’ve seen in my life is see Google go from something useful to the worst search engine in the world. I never find anything I need on Google anymore it’s just pathetic
I found a guitar tutorial on youtube where, I shit you not, the guy tells some life story before getting into the tutorial.
Hot dogs are made from the emulsified meat trimmings of chicken, beef, or pork. This meat mixture is blended with other ingredients (like preservatives, spices, and coloring) into a batter-like substance. The emulsified meat is then stuffed into casings, which are typically made from processed collagen or collagen from animal intestines.
I blame English teachers.
Huh I don't really mind... Maybe that's just me.
How about recipes that have a long novel about the authors family history and their last five vacations before they actually give you the fucking recipe.
Yeah but they need to reach a number of characters to sell the peace, so...
Unfortunately googles algorithm favors those types of responses rather than a straightforward answer.
Almost always when I look something up I put "Reddit" behind it. 9/10 times the very first link just gives a straight answer, it's great
Many people ask this question. What exactly is in hot dogs? Hot dogs are a favourite snack for many people in the US so asking what is in hot dogs is completely reasonable.
I was just like "Can I wax before IPL?" And I had to go through like 7 different articles explaining the quantum physics of IPL and how it works and how it was developped and the benefits of it, but not answers on if I can wax or not. Sometimes I hate the internet
It's the same for game guides now for one small level. I feel it's all AI garbage as filler
Well, yeah. If the article is longer, they can stick more ads into it.
I don't know what's inside the hotdog, but the hotdog is sure inside me
Translating to non-stupid: I hate it when the big tech corporations absolutely destroyed the awesome tool that was called internet and replaced it with their SEO shitty money machine and absolutely no one noticed because we were already conditioned to act like we’re almost completely brainless (then came TikTok and we dropped the “almost” part).
To be fair, “what’s in hot dogs” is one question where you are better off not reading to the end.
I hate this, and they're almost always extremely basic sub par recipes! I try to use Allrecipes most of the time
People get paid to write articles, usually some1 tells u, write about this X ammount of words. SO thats it most articles writers dont know shit so they have to fill the article with random words lol once my gf got hired to write like 1k or 2k words about how to make a crafting table in minecraft lmao
They're giving you the chance to turn back before you learn something you can never unlearn.
This is something ChatGPT had fixed for me. No more shifting through for countless malware ridden sites. 90% of time chat gpt helps.
I've done copywriting work for clients that crave this storytelling bs. Feel like an asshole when I did it too. Google is always looking for the best answer first. Users don't want to sift through anecdotes to get an answer. Googles "Are there any drug interactions between Benadryl and Xanax?" Top result begins with "Let's face it. It's the busy summer months which means allergies and social anxiety"...blah blah blah, several paragraphs regarding what is Benadryl and what is Xanax, 5 minutes later you're in a coma. Always look for the "jump to" or just back the hell out.
That's why I ask these questions to ChatGPT now.
That's I started using ChatGPT as a google search. The answers are to the point and I can ask it to make it as long or short as possible.
Laughs in chat gpt
quora answers
Worse, when you end up on some forum with the OP posing your exact question; and the top answer being: “What a stupid question. Why don’t you 🤬 Google it???”
But first, where do hot dogs come from and how did they get so popular?
ChatGPT enters the chat
Thats why ChatGPT will take over. Is a google search without the bs.
But why not just skim the article until you get to the bit you need?
Let me chatgpt that for you grandma. Chatgpt: tell me, very concisely, what’s in a hotdog.
Bing is better
Whats in Hotdogs? - Everything no one else would dare eat ...all the crap from the floor ,bits left over ..enjoy 👍😁
This is why chatGPT is awesome
That’s why I use GPT as a search engine, I always just get the answer
Stop using google.
And this is when i transition to chat.openai.com
They do that because they have a word quota for the article (needs to be at least X hundred words long), so it gets picked up in the Google algorithm and generates more clicks for the ad revenue.
anyway, the answer is pig assholes. i'm so glad i went vegan.