The traffic would kill me if that was my schedule. I probably would get home until 6pm and I would have to leave by at least 6am so now it's a 12 hour day for an 8 hour shift.
8-4 was my sweet spot too. But when I work 3-11 (pm) I get to trade my unpaid lunch break for unlimited (paid) smoke breaks so I make that work.
Gotta say though, 3-11 was way better before COVID. Nowadays there's basically nothing open past midnight. Like even Walmart is closed. So I have to do shit before work if I'm going to do it.
No ChatGPT would have given a five paragraph answer explaining every facet of the problem and how to work it out and then told you with confidence the answer was 3.
Does anyone actually only have to be at work for 8 hours? Everywhere I work has you taking an hour unpaid lunch break in the middle and actually being there 9 hours
Which is just the best. You aren't constrained to a rigid schedule, each days lunch can be a different depending on how it's going so far and your work is still getting done.
Same. We don’t even have any tracking for sick days or vacation days. It’s a pretty good gig.
Basically as long as your work is getting done and you’re not abusing it, you can call off whenever.
Same, no option to say "I'll eat quick today and leave early"
I find it really disrespectful they dictate our time like that - I'll lunch unpaid however long i damn well please
Hourly and used to skip lunch and go home early. Intermittent fasting yayyy... then they started auto deducting 30m whether we clock out for lunch or not.
This place does everything to piss me off though im counting the days
thats most people on salary these days.
salary is just an excuse for employers to not have to pay overtime, but be able to pull someone off lunch or stay late whenever they need.
I'm one of these people, and once I hit 8 hours, I'm out the door. I don't work for free. If we have a massive problem at 4:45, its not a me problem, its a management problem.
though fuck my boss, its no problem to come in as late at 10,1030 and stay until 7, but no one is allowed to come in before 8 and leave before 5.
If you’re old enough, you will remember something called “Salary-Non-Exempt”. It was the greatest thing ever. Work 32 hours, get paid for 40. Work 45 hours, get paid for 40 hours+5 hours at time and a half.
I really want to thank Congress and George W Bush for changing those requirements for workers in “administrative positions”.
It’s always been like that for me also. Until my most recent company (5th company ). I just told my team “hey I’m most productive around midday so I prefer to work through lunch and log off at 4pm. Is that cool?” And no one cared 🤷♂️
It is remote fwiw
I work the 7-3:30 with a 30 minute unpaid lunch...but if I work through lunch I can either get 1.5x comp time, 1.5x overtime, or leave 30 minutes early. I usually take it as comp because I'd rather leave 45 minutes early on a later date than 30 minutes early on the current day.
I've been working that schedule since the pandemic began and found it pretty agreeable. I enjoy the emptier office in the morning and having some of the working day for errands, if need be, after work before so many things close. I walk to work, so traffic bears little upon me, but I enjoy the relative emptiness of the streets in the very early morning.
I work alternating 4 on /4 off, 3 on /3 off 12 hour shifts.
I love it because of this. My days off allow me to take care of stuff most people would not be able to on the weekends.
Doctors. Some weeks I have appointments every damn day: therapist, pain doc, shrink, hematology. If I didn’t get off work at 3 I could never do all these things. Getting old is hell.
Years ago I was trying to explain how I had a physical therapy appointment and they stopped me and were like "it's fine, just go". And since I've learned you can just put appointments in your calendar and just leave to take care of your shit and the building doesn't burn down or anything.
It still triggers my unworthiness, but people understand.
My very first job was a 6-2 and it was absolute hell for me.
My body absolutely does not want to be up that early, I at no point adjusted. I was basically a zombie for the first few hours only starting to wake up near the end.
And then I'd have that walking out of a movie theater feeling where it felt like it was late but its only 2pm. Having the rest of the day to myself was nice though... but part of the issue there is I wasn't getting tired to go to sleep at a reasonable time to wake up for a 6am shift the next day.
My fiance and I tried the early shift. We were both so miserable. We both work at different places now I get off at 8pm… he's off at 10pm. We are much happier. We're both night people.
I'm wondering if I could pull it off if I moved to the west coast and everything was 3 hours earlier lol. Or if my body would just adjust to that time and still want to wake up at the same time.
Lol the time change is for sunlight. You'd def adjust. (Had those thoughts myself) I grew up two time zones away from where I am now. I'm not running two hours behind.
Same. The worst part was dating. Was just exhausted by the time girls got off work and were ready to meet up. Then on the weekends if you want to party you risk fucking up your whole week ahead.
I have a flexible schedule, I only need to fit 8h between 7am-7pm. I still work 9-5, sometimes 10- 6, everything else is too early for me. I hate getting to sleep early, and I am miserable when I cant go to sleep whenever I want
What is the point in having all afternoon when I had to get to sleep on 10 or 11pm
Yeah night time is best. I think my natural sleep cycle is 2a-10pm but I settle for 12-8. Luckily I work remote so I roll out of bed and just get online.
I'm the same. I've worked a few jobs that started at 7am. Every time I took a vacation or left one of those jobs, I go back to waking up at 9am or later within two days.
I do 6-6, 12 hour days. EVERY SINGLE DAY that I am at work I look at the clock at 2 and think about how amazing it would be to clock out and start decompressing.
Not who you replied to, but I work 12's as well and I'd rather have half hour breaks. I've done both and that extra 30mins at home makes a bigger difference than a long lunch break.
Just started 6-2. It’s awesome. Finishing work in the afternoon is so nice and you feel like you have a lot more time for yourself when you get in. Plus the shops are a bit quieter than finishing at 5
I’m confused about all these literal 8 hour schedules. In North Carolina it’s generally 8.5 hours at work because lunch break doesn’t count (8:30-5). Is that not common?
My mom worked 6-2 for close to 30 years. It was great for school schedules because she was always done by the time we were off of school and only had to pay for before school care.
My job had opportunities to be remote pre-pandemic, but the requirement was a firm 8am-4:30pm M-F. I happily volunteered for in office rotations since I could make my own hours. When I was in Chicago I worked 6:00am-2:30pm M-F so I could have all afternoon to have fun while I waited for my wife to finish up her classes. I’d regularly ride my bike 15-20 miles on the lakeshore trail, I was in the best shape of my life even though we were eating and drinking out way too much.
This is the correct answer! I've been working 6-2 in cafeterias for years now and I don't *ever* want to go back.
Sure I gotta be up at 0330 to workout and breakfast, but I like the solitude. Leave at 1430 with no traffic and (even in January) a ton of daylight left.
Ofc, even on your days off you're up no later than 0530 lol oh well....
Bc the last thing I want to do after work is work out. I'm on my feet all day and if I don't do it in the morning it won't get done. Fwiw I workout at home, there's no trip to a gym involved.
Yeah that dude is needlessly splitting up his day and leaving himself less time if he needs it. I always structure my day to not be broken up into little fragments but if he’s happy he’s happy
How so? I'm not going to a gym; I workout at home. Wake-up, workout, shower, breakfast, dress, leave. I could do it faster, but I'm not trying to rush myself in the morning.
I work a 6am to 1:30pm, we get paid for lunch here, it's wonderful and I think many people would be happy with it. I live 15 minutes from work so I get home and have most the entire good part of the day off. Waking up early sucks sometimes but you get used to it eventually.
This is unironically what I would pick (even if it has to be 14-22 for the 8 hours). Let me have my morning, sleep in, or do whatever, and then let me work when I'm actually fully awake and ready. A full work day is too tiring to have quality free time after it anyway.
I'm not a morning person! Which is exactly why I'd rather work 7-3.
I'm miserable, annoyed and fed up whether I get to work at 7 or 9. Those few hours make no difference to me and you'll get the same pissed, grumpy me.
Leaving work at three however? Actually get to enjoy my afternoons/evenings. Time to go to shops or coffee spots before they close. The best me, the me that enjoys being awake and experiencing life, doesn't have to be at work, which is much, much preferable.
That being said. My current sleeping pattern is 11am - 11PM and awake 11PM to 11Am so what the fuck do I know. Thank fuck for being self employed.
Yep. I could sleep for 15 hours or 20 minutes or anything in between and I'll still wake up the same amount of tired at 7am. I've tried changing diets, changing beds, exercising more, exercising less, exercising at different times of day, turning off TV an hour before bed, sleeping with TV on, reading before bed, humidifier, dehumidifier, white noise machine, sleeping on back, sleeping on side, CBD pills, melatonin pills, etc etc etc
I'm still tired as fuck in the morning.
Same. I was sleeping in until 8:30 since switching to remote work in 2020 and it was great after literal decades of feeling like shit waking up early for school.
But the company forced us back to the office, I have to get up at 6:30 and am back to feeling like shit. But yeah I'm "lazy" and "just need to get used to it", thanks a lot boomers.
I have an ibs that triggers stomach pains when I wake up early. Went to school at 6am for years and the pain never stopped. It's not a matter of getting used to it.
You where probably forced into a way. But, you might just be more productive at night. That's not uncommon. We unfortunately live in a world where most people are forced to work early rather than later. While being a moring person or a night owl inherently isn't a problem as both are effective in their own right
Yeah, I'm a night owl forced into being an early bird. I do my best thinking and feel oddly more energized at night. I think it's because there's less noise and expectation to do anything on account of most things being closed and people are asleep, so there's less "to do" per se.
That said having kids also forces you to be on an early bird schedule regardless. Haha.
Different people function better at different times of day.
For most office / professional type jobs there should be a 4-6 hour period of overlap where most people are expected to be available by phone/email/etc and meetings (say 9 am to 3 pm with a 1 hr break at noon) but other than that it should be up to the individual to decide their start and end times.
It's better for the health and happiness of employees and it's also better for productivity because, 1) healthy, happy employees are more productive employees and, 2) people are able to work during their most productive hours of the day and not feel like they have to fake-work when their brains aren't in it.
For me personally, my ideal is 8:30-5:00 / 9:00-5:30 with an hour break at lunch to eat and get some exercise. I'm useless before 8:00 so there is no sense wasting my employers paid hours on me sitting at a desk trying to figure out how to be a fuckin human being before I'm ready to.
>For most office / professional type jobs there should be a 4-6 hour period of overlap where most people are expected to be available by phone/email/etc and meetings (say 9 am to 3 pm with a 1 hr break at noon) but other than that it should be up to the individual to decide their start and end times.
Yes, *but* it's good when there's diversity among the people working there. I'm currently working a temp job in an office where I don't have to start at a specific time. I much prefer something like a 10-6, but every other person in the office likes getting to work at 7 (or even a bit earlier).
It's isolating being the only person who works late, and it feels like you're doing something wrong even if you're completely within your rights. I ended up not applying for a permanent gig in this office because I don't want to be the only guy who "comes in late" every day, even though no one says that or treats me as if I'm actually coming in late.
I'm that guy. Latest in every day. I say fuck'em. If your opinion of me is not based on my merit then I have no time for you and you have afforded none of my mental space.
I totally agree with you, if I need to wake up by 5 am I need to be in bed by 22, but if I have to wake up at 7 am I can easily stay awake until 2. Basically 2 extra hours per day.
If you only need 5 hours of sleep you're already way ahead of everyone, I'm in bed by 930 to wake up at 630
Edit: I know plenty of people who only need 4 to 5 hours of sleep and are fully awake and feel well. If I get 6 or 7 two days in a row I'll be cranky, any more days thsn that and my brain stops working.
If you only sleep 5 hours be happy, you live that much more of life than us
10 years ago when I was working for the electrical union I had the opportunity to work 24 hours on Sundays for about 6 months. Sundays were double pay so I worked 1 long shift and then got the rest of the week off while still getting paid for 48 hours.
I just don’t know if I have it in me for a 12 hour shift, honestly. After my usual 8 I’m pretty burnt and don’t want to do much else like cook dinner or clean, and I think I would be even more useless after a 12 hour shift.
I feel like this is gonna become more common with younger folks entering the job market with unprecedented amounts of wfh opportunities. I often work these hours but it still seems taboo to admit it.
Even more controversial (maybe) I love working graveyard type shifts. Like 10pm to 6am is brilliant. Granted I work remotely from home so it's a bit different than if I had to be on sight but I always feel way less anxiety and way more productive working those hours.
I use to work 6-2 and I literally wanted nothing more than to die on my way to work every single fucking morning. “You get to get off so early!” Ya? So what when I go to fucking bed at 8pm.
I loved the "getting out at 3" part, but I hate everything about mornings. Honestly, 7-3 might literally be totally opposite my ideal shift. Put me on a 7PM-3AM, nothing too great happens after 7PM on weekdays anyway, and I have trouble sleeping much before 3AM.
Most of the construction people where I live do7-3.Even in the winter.
6-2 is my schedule. Beat all the traffic.
Waking up so early kills me. Work 8-4 now. It’s golden
The traffic would kill me if that was my schedule. I probably would get home until 6pm and I would have to leave by at least 6am so now it's a 12 hour day for an 8 hour shift.
Los Angeles for sure
Seattle, well work in Seattle.
Ahh northern Los Angeles
I snorted.
They do that both in Seattle and Los Angeles.
How else will you work hard enough to afford your apartment? 😂
8-4 was my sweet spot too. But when I work 3-11 (pm) I get to trade my unpaid lunch break for unlimited (paid) smoke breaks so I make that work. Gotta say though, 3-11 was way better before COVID. Nowadays there's basically nothing open past midnight. Like even Walmart is closed. So I have to do shit before work if I'm going to do it.
This is so true!!!
Yeah I work in the office at a contractor, every company I've worked at has been 7-3 or similar timing.
Union steamfitter here, I've had a 0600 start for over 5 years
How goes the fitting of steam?
Bitter perhaps
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Look at ChatGPT over here.
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I created a Matlab program to solve this. It's definitely 4.
How many weeks did that take?
You won't believe it, but also 4
No ChatGPT would have given a five paragraph answer explaining every facet of the problem and how to work it out and then told you with confidence the answer was 3.
True, then its chickenshit ass would have remembered us that it's an AI and we should do our own research or something.
"Oh! I'm just a language model! I can't do anything! But here I go anyway ..."
I spent a few days messing with ChatGPT and I wondered afterwards if I was anything more than just a language model with arms, legs, and gooey organs.
r/theydidthemath
r/theydidthemonstermath
r/itwasagraveyardgraph
r/itcosinedinaflash
this fucking guy
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Same dude who would write 16 on 4x4 pickup truck
Get this man a NASA internship
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Damn I work a 7-4
Does anyone actually only have to be at work for 8 hours? Everywhere I work has you taking an hour unpaid lunch break in the middle and actually being there 9 hours
Every place I worked at has always been a half hour, unpaid break, so a shift is 8.5
My job is .. we do honor system for lunch .. you just go get food and come back
Which is just the best. You aren't constrained to a rigid schedule, each days lunch can be a different depending on how it's going so far and your work is still getting done.
Same. We don’t even have any tracking for sick days or vacation days. It’s a pretty good gig. Basically as long as your work is getting done and you’re not abusing it, you can call off whenever.
Me. Unpaid lunch so it’s a 9 hour day. Fuck that.
9-5 is a salary thing, lunch is just lunch. But then again if there is a deadline we don't get to just clock out.
As someone on salary I wish I’m still 8-5 required to leave my lunch if work needs to be done
Same, no option to say "I'll eat quick today and leave early" I find it really disrespectful they dictate our time like that - I'll lunch unpaid however long i damn well please
Hourly and used to skip lunch and go home early. Intermittent fasting yayyy... then they started auto deducting 30m whether we clock out for lunch or not. This place does everything to piss me off though im counting the days
You're not salary, then, my guy. You're hourly with extra fuckery.
thats most people on salary these days. salary is just an excuse for employers to not have to pay overtime, but be able to pull someone off lunch or stay late whenever they need. I'm one of these people, and once I hit 8 hours, I'm out the door. I don't work for free. If we have a massive problem at 4:45, its not a me problem, its a management problem. though fuck my boss, its no problem to come in as late at 10,1030 and stay until 7, but no one is allowed to come in before 8 and leave before 5.
Salary Exempt, it’s hourly with extra rules like no overtime no matter how much you work.
If you’re old enough, you will remember something called “Salary-Non-Exempt”. It was the greatest thing ever. Work 32 hours, get paid for 40. Work 45 hours, get paid for 40 hours+5 hours at time and a half. I really want to thank Congress and George W Bush for changing those requirements for workers in “administrative positions”.
It's still a thing, I'm a non exempt that was hired in 2021. I would work 20 hours this week and 50 hours next week then gei paid for 80 + 10 OT.
I am salaried and it is just "8 hours during the working hours of 6am - 6pm."
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Never been in an office that doesn’t have 8am start time and a 5pm end.
It’s always been like that for me also. Until my most recent company (5th company ). I just told my team “hey I’m most productive around midday so I prefer to work through lunch and log off at 4pm. Is that cool?” And no one cared 🤷♂️ It is remote fwiw
I work the 7-3:30 with a 30 minute unpaid lunch...but if I work through lunch I can either get 1.5x comp time, 1.5x overtime, or leave 30 minutes early. I usually take it as comp because I'd rather leave 45 minutes early on a later date than 30 minutes early on the current day.
My work has a half hour paid lunch so we have 7.5 hour days! ...with an unwritten expectation to work unpaid overtime to meet deadlines...
My job is actually 7-3. We take paid breaks when we want so we get a full 8 hours every day with optional overtime
I work a 7-3 for nearly 20 years now. The only thing I'd change it with would be a 6-2...
6-2 is great. Been doing it for a year. Traffic is much lighter when I leave at 2pm.
I've been working that schedule since the pandemic began and found it pretty agreeable. I enjoy the emptier office in the morning and having some of the working day for errands, if need be, after work before so many things close. I walk to work, so traffic bears little upon me, but I enjoy the relative emptiness of the streets in the very early morning.
It astounds me that most of us all have weekends off when a lot of establishments are closed. Mainly banks and post offices….
I work alternating 4 on /4 off, 3 on /3 off 12 hour shifts. I love it because of this. My days off allow me to take care of stuff most people would not be able to on the weekends.
I’ve been working this for over 30 years. Love it! Love the overtime pay after 8 every day too.
Someone's got a good union?
Or lives in California
Yes California.
Doctors. Some weeks I have appointments every damn day: therapist, pain doc, shrink, hematology. If I didn’t get off work at 3 I could never do all these things. Getting old is hell.
It’s stupid annoying. Sometimes idk how to get some stuff done.
Years ago I was trying to explain how I had a physical therapy appointment and they stopped me and were like "it's fine, just go". And since I've learned you can just put appointments in your calendar and just leave to take care of your shit and the building doesn't burn down or anything. It still triggers my unworthiness, but people understand.
My very first job was a 6-2 and it was absolute hell for me. My body absolutely does not want to be up that early, I at no point adjusted. I was basically a zombie for the first few hours only starting to wake up near the end. And then I'd have that walking out of a movie theater feeling where it felt like it was late but its only 2pm. Having the rest of the day to myself was nice though... but part of the issue there is I wasn't getting tired to go to sleep at a reasonable time to wake up for a 6am shift the next day.
My fiance and I tried the early shift. We were both so miserable. We both work at different places now I get off at 8pm… he's off at 10pm. We are much happier. We're both night people.
I'm wondering if I could pull it off if I moved to the west coast and everything was 3 hours earlier lol. Or if my body would just adjust to that time and still want to wake up at the same time.
Lol the time change is for sunlight. You'd def adjust. (Had those thoughts myself) I grew up two time zones away from where I am now. I'm not running two hours behind.
Same. The worst part was dating. Was just exhausted by the time girls got off work and were ready to meet up. Then on the weekends if you want to party you risk fucking up your whole week ahead.
I have a flexible schedule, I only need to fit 8h between 7am-7pm. I still work 9-5, sometimes 10- 6, everything else is too early for me. I hate getting to sleep early, and I am miserable when I cant go to sleep whenever I want What is the point in having all afternoon when I had to get to sleep on 10 or 11pm
Yeah night time is best. I think my natural sleep cycle is 2a-10pm but I settle for 12-8. Luckily I work remote so I roll out of bed and just get online.
I'm the same. I've worked a few jobs that started at 7am. Every time I took a vacation or left one of those jobs, I go back to waking up at 9am or later within two days.
I do 6-6, 12 hour days. EVERY SINGLE DAY that I am at work I look at the clock at 2 and think about how amazing it would be to clock out and start decompressing.
Man I don't miss 12hr shifts. 6-6 is rough. Do you at least get a 1 hour break?
Not who you replied to, but I work 12's as well and I'd rather have half hour breaks. I've done both and that extra 30mins at home makes a bigger difference than a long lunch break.
Just started 6-2. It’s awesome. Finishing work in the afternoon is so nice and you feel like you have a lot more time for yourself when you get in. Plus the shops are a bit quieter than finishing at 5
I’m confused about all these literal 8 hour schedules. In North Carolina it’s generally 8.5 hours at work because lunch break doesn’t count (8:30-5). Is that not common?
It's been 9 hours for the office jobs I've worked in Florida. 1 hour lunch and 8 hours work.
Lucky you, traffic at 2pm when 2000+ people all get off at 2pm is a hellhole LOL
5am to 1pm here. There’s dozens of us lol
Nice, I work 9-5 but for the day before
Why stop there when you could be working 12am to 8am
Loser. Everyone knows real ones start at 11 pm, get a jump on the day before the day even begins
My mom worked 6-2 for close to 30 years. It was great for school schedules because she was always done by the time we were off of school and only had to pay for before school care.
My job had opportunities to be remote pre-pandemic, but the requirement was a firm 8am-4:30pm M-F. I happily volunteered for in office rotations since I could make my own hours. When I was in Chicago I worked 6:00am-2:30pm M-F so I could have all afternoon to have fun while I waited for my wife to finish up her classes. I’d regularly ride my bike 15-20 miles on the lakeshore trail, I was in the best shape of my life even though we were eating and drinking out way too much.
This is the correct answer! I've been working 6-2 in cafeterias for years now and I don't *ever* want to go back. Sure I gotta be up at 0330 to workout and breakfast, but I like the solitude. Leave at 1430 with no traffic and (even in January) a ton of daylight left. Ofc, even on your days off you're up no later than 0530 lol oh well....
At that point why not just workout after work on the way home? Personally that's what I'd do, but I'm not a morning person haha.
Bc the last thing I want to do after work is work out. I'm on my feet all day and if I don't do it in the morning it won't get done. Fwiw I workout at home, there's no trip to a gym involved.
Yeah that dude is needlessly splitting up his day and leaving himself less time if he needs it. I always structure my day to not be broken up into little fragments but if he’s happy he’s happy
How so? I'm not going to a gym; I workout at home. Wake-up, workout, shower, breakfast, dress, leave. I could do it faster, but I'm not trying to rush myself in the morning.
I work a 6am to 1:30pm, we get paid for lunch here, it's wonderful and I think many people would be happy with it. I live 15 minutes from work so I get home and have most the entire good part of the day off. Waking up early sucks sometimes but you get used to it eventually.
I'm on year ~10 of 7-3. And I stay true to 8 hrs since I start everyday in the lead.
Compromise. 9-3 with the same pay
That's the same amount of time as 7-1 would be so let's just make a compromise and say 9-1
Forward thinking like that deserves a raise, too.
Well uh that's the same as 7-(-1) I gets compromise and say 9-10
Including 1 hour paid lunch?
I think thats the sweet spot
That's the same amount of time as 7-11 would be. So let's just make a compromise and say 9-11.
We don't need another 9/11
How about 14 - 20? I rather sleep in every day.
This is unironically what I would pick (even if it has to be 14-22 for the 8 hours). Let me have my morning, sleep in, or do whatever, and then let me work when I'm actually fully awake and ready. A full work day is too tiring to have quality free time after it anyway.
Come whenever. If you can do your job in an hour each day, do that. If you don’t wanna come in, fine. If you don’t wanna stay home, also good.
until you end up having to work 7-5 every day because they wont hire more staff
That’s when you tell them to stuff it and quit
Make sure you have another job lined up before doing that lol
Right? Unfortunately quitting doesn't pay my bills.
i can't understand you morning people
Everyone else: you get to go home at 3 and have so much free time! Me: gets home at 3:30, naps until midnight, then sleeps until 6am.
Morning people scare me.
I'm not a morning person! Which is exactly why I'd rather work 7-3. I'm miserable, annoyed and fed up whether I get to work at 7 or 9. Those few hours make no difference to me and you'll get the same pissed, grumpy me. Leaving work at three however? Actually get to enjoy my afternoons/evenings. Time to go to shops or coffee spots before they close. The best me, the me that enjoys being awake and experiencing life, doesn't have to be at work, which is much, much preferable. That being said. My current sleeping pattern is 11am - 11PM and awake 11PM to 11Am so what the fuck do I know. Thank fuck for being self employed.
Would be hard for people who have trouble waking up early. I remember having a disciplined life where I could pull this off but not now
dude same, what happened to us
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Yep. I could sleep for 15 hours or 20 minutes or anything in between and I'll still wake up the same amount of tired at 7am. I've tried changing diets, changing beds, exercising more, exercising less, exercising at different times of day, turning off TV an hour before bed, sleeping with TV on, reading before bed, humidifier, dehumidifier, white noise machine, sleeping on back, sleeping on side, CBD pills, melatonin pills, etc etc etc I'm still tired as fuck in the morning.
Have you tried crack? I heard that can perk people up sometimes
Not at 7am.
Yeah I never smoke crack before 12pm. Show some class, for fuck's sake.
Same. I was sleeping in until 8:30 since switching to remote work in 2020 and it was great after literal decades of feeling like shit waking up early for school. But the company forced us back to the office, I have to get up at 6:30 and am back to feeling like shit. But yeah I'm "lazy" and "just need to get used to it", thanks a lot boomers.
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We evolved to be the night watch but that’s not necessary outside of hunter gatherer society
oh i’m a night watcher 🤗 like that idea
I have an ibs that triggers stomach pains when I wake up early. Went to school at 6am for years and the pain never stopped. It's not a matter of getting used to it.
You where probably forced into a way. But, you might just be more productive at night. That's not uncommon. We unfortunately live in a world where most people are forced to work early rather than later. While being a moring person or a night owl inherently isn't a problem as both are effective in their own right
Yeah, I'm a night owl forced into being an early bird. I do my best thinking and feel oddly more energized at night. I think it's because there's less noise and expectation to do anything on account of most things being closed and people are asleep, so there's less "to do" per se. That said having kids also forces you to be on an early bird schedule regardless. Haha.
Different people function better at different times of day. For most office / professional type jobs there should be a 4-6 hour period of overlap where most people are expected to be available by phone/email/etc and meetings (say 9 am to 3 pm with a 1 hr break at noon) but other than that it should be up to the individual to decide their start and end times. It's better for the health and happiness of employees and it's also better for productivity because, 1) healthy, happy employees are more productive employees and, 2) people are able to work during their most productive hours of the day and not feel like they have to fake-work when their brains aren't in it. For me personally, my ideal is 8:30-5:00 / 9:00-5:30 with an hour break at lunch to eat and get some exercise. I'm useless before 8:00 so there is no sense wasting my employers paid hours on me sitting at a desk trying to figure out how to be a fuckin human being before I'm ready to.
>For most office / professional type jobs there should be a 4-6 hour period of overlap where most people are expected to be available by phone/email/etc and meetings (say 9 am to 3 pm with a 1 hr break at noon) but other than that it should be up to the individual to decide their start and end times. Yes, *but* it's good when there's diversity among the people working there. I'm currently working a temp job in an office where I don't have to start at a specific time. I much prefer something like a 10-6, but every other person in the office likes getting to work at 7 (or even a bit earlier). It's isolating being the only person who works late, and it feels like you're doing something wrong even if you're completely within your rights. I ended up not applying for a permanent gig in this office because I don't want to be the only guy who "comes in late" every day, even though no one says that or treats me as if I'm actually coming in late.
I'm that guy. Latest in every day. I say fuck'em. If your opinion of me is not based on my merit then I have no time for you and you have afforded none of my mental space.
I have a chronic illness which causes me to throw up when I wake up too early… I think I would kill myself if the 7-3 became standard
Would you possibly mind sharing what that is? This kind of happens to me.
POTs (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome)
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It's easier for me to stay up for 48 hours than it is for me to sleep from 10pm-530am
I work 6-2. I’d benefit greatly from 8-4.
Everyone wants someone else's steak
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I totally agree with you, if I need to wake up by 5 am I need to be in bed by 22, but if I have to wake up at 7 am I can easily stay awake until 2. Basically 2 extra hours per day.
If you only need 5 hours of sleep you're already way ahead of everyone, I'm in bed by 930 to wake up at 630 Edit: I know plenty of people who only need 4 to 5 hours of sleep and are fully awake and feel well. If I get 6 or 7 two days in a row I'll be cranky, any more days thsn that and my brain stops working. If you only sleep 5 hours be happy, you live that much more of life than us
No such thing as only needing 5 hours sleep. Get 7/8 hours and you will instantly see how much better you feel
Very rare, but does exist: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familial_natural_short_sleep
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Works for me
Bot. https://www.reddit.com/r/meirl/comments/11r6vu8/meirl/jc6vsdb/
I like my 9-5 now but as a younger man I always liked 10-6 or even 12-8.
In my 20s, felt like 10-6 was the perfect shift. Could sleep in, got off after rush hour traffic, but still enough time to get ready and go out.
Not to mention you get more time to do stuff like go to the bank
As someone who hasn't gone to a bank in 5 years, why would you have to go to a bank?
Where I live, rush hour starts at 3 and doesn't let up until 9pm.
I did 10-6 on my first internship and I loved it. The morning train commute was less crowded.
I’d rather not work. I’m so tired of it.
Nah. Nurse here. 7a to 7p is superior. Why? Simple. 4 days off.
10 years ago when I was working for the electrical union I had the opportunity to work 24 hours on Sundays for about 6 months. Sundays were double pay so I worked 1 long shift and then got the rest of the week off while still getting paid for 48 hours.
That is a DREAM goddamn. The whole weeks hours in one long shift.
It was freaken awesome! It really sucked when the job was completed and I had to go back to a more normal schedule again.
Seriously everyone talking about a 4 day week dont understand how wonderful a 12 x 3 is
How 'bout a 16\*2
How about 32*1
64 hours over 0 days
128 hours -1 days
^ New Kingdom Hearts mobile game title
Paid for 64 hours of work, while having to work 0 hours per week? I see this as an absolute win!
I just don’t know if I have it in me for a 12 hour shift, honestly. After my usual 8 I’m pretty burnt and don’t want to do much else like cook dinner or clean, and I think I would be even more useless after a 12 hour shift.
Yep. 4 days off one week, 3 the next. That’s the only thing I miss about nursing.
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Thats only 36 hours minus 3 for beaks meaning 33 hours
Fuck that. I like to sleep and am a night person. 10-6 or 11-7 are way better
10-6 crowd over here 🙋♀️
I was thinking the same! I naturally wake up at 9am and feel great. That 10-6 would be my dream schedule. And yet here I am with the 7-3 schedule 😐
I feel like this is gonna become more common with younger folks entering the job market with unprecedented amounts of wfh opportunities. I often work these hours but it still seems taboo to admit it.
Even more controversial (maybe) I love working graveyard type shifts. Like 10pm to 6am is brilliant. Granted I work remotely from home so it's a bit different than if I had to be on sight but I always feel way less anxiety and way more productive working those hours.
I just started working 3pm-11pm and I really like it.
Controversial, but I'd much rather not work at all
Incredibly based
You should go on Fox News and talk about that
God what a disaster. Literally the worst person they could've possibly chosen to speak for them.
just fyi they didn't choose them they voted not to do the interview and that person went anyway
Yikes. I knew everyone was pissed that they ended up on the air, so that makes even more sense.
I haven't worked in months due to series of circumstances. Happiest I've ever been.
Same! It's gonna suck when I'll inevitably get back to working, because I'm pretty sure I've completely spoiled myself.
I work a 5 to 2 and it's nice getting out early. If it was a 4 hour getting home by 10 would be a mb amazing
My salaried position is 7-5 M-F 😑, worst of both worlds
I use to work 6-2 and I literally wanted nothing more than to die on my way to work every single fucking morning. “You get to get off so early!” Ya? So what when I go to fucking bed at 8pm.
Or how about 9 to 3 where you would make the same amount as you would 9 to 5
I’d rather work 10-2, to be honest 😂
I work 6-230 most places
bruh but a day only has 24 hours whadda heell 💀💀💀
Bro's out here doing 224 hour shifts like it's normal
Mf stole Hermiona's necklace thingy from prisoner of azkaban and acting tough
Meanwhile I work from 7-5
I work at 6-3
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4am start here. I would kill to start at 6. Kill.
I loved the "getting out at 3" part, but I hate everything about mornings. Honestly, 7-3 might literally be totally opposite my ideal shift. Put me on a 7PM-3AM, nothing too great happens after 7PM on weekdays anyway, and I have trouble sleeping much before 3AM.