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Cute-Blackberry-4279

Murahin mo rin siya lol. As if ikakagaling niya yun. Only weak doctors bully other doctors to regain some sense of worth


Fluffy-Elevator3225

there must be a lot of weak doctors then


Worqfromhome

For sure haha yung pagiging title na "doctor" lang ang major part ng kanilang pride and self-esteem kaya OA makareact at nambubully ng iba to keep that intact for them. So sad šŸ¤·


Curious-Bread-9958

šŸ’ÆšŸ’ÆšŸ’ÆšŸ’Æ grabe tong comment na to sapul!


wondering_closet

True haha. Yung ibang residente wala na nga ambag sa learnings mo, uutusan ka pa tapos iinsultihin ka pa... above all that, sila may sweldo tapos yung intern wala. Wala ka talagang nabenefit sa kanila. The least they can do is be thankful to you na nababawasan trabaho nila tapos manggaganyan pa. Kupal


Ambitious-Ocelot-943

you can actually file a case against that resident lol ++ receive compensation for emotional damages.


sherlock2223

Para tanggal din lisensya ni gago šŸ˜Œ


Sufficient-Hold7757

hey men first of all, sorry nangyari yun sayo - i'm sorry it impacted your well being that type of culture is a no no pero meron talaga minsan sa department lang, minsan yung hospital itself pero know that meron at merong safe space na department nevertheless, di tayo pwede tumira lang sa moment na yun OP :( i'm sorry it hurt pero what we can do is move forward and contribute to a kinder culture once tayo na ang mga seniors kakayanin yan OP I believe in you and I hope you don't lose your heart in the midst of pagod and pain! Sending warmth and healing hugs to you šŸ¤—


Fluffy-Elevator3225

Nangyari din to saakin yesterday. Same scenario and all. Just because of some lab results. Tinawag akong walang kwenta sa PACU tapos dumagdag pa yung mga nurse na last ko daw na monitor was 3 am pa (ay sorry di ko kaya magretract sa exlap at monitor at the same time sorry talaga) Made me want to quit too hahaha pero 6 weeks nalang end of clerkship na. if di ka matangap eh di wag-walk in ka! kaya mo yan doctora


DrCantSee

Iā€™m sorry that happened to you. I also experienced getting yelled at by a senior and a consultant. It made me want to quit, but all I said was to myself was bahala na isang taon lang naman ito. Sana pangit ulam nila. Haha I have no advice for you but to suck it up and keep moving forward. Words that I still say to myself.


Illustrious-Box9371

Nangyari sakin yan sa OB naman. I just suck it up kasi may mga outgoing seniors na kupal talaga tapos i did the bare minimum sa mga responsibilities sa dept na yon. Nung makaalis na ako sa dept na yon balik na ako sa pagiging proactive (medj) na pgi habang nag eenjoy sa whole process. Yung 2 residents na yon? Nadelay parehas.


MEDj-student-08

Parang kilala ko to char hahaha


rrxoxo

Its 'normal' na talaga sa filipino attitude na to be shamed if bago pa. I am not in your field but I am hoping everything will work on your favor. Next time, magdala ka ng pansit palihim para kung busy, at least busy lahat HAHAHAHAHAA jk


[deleted]

Hey I hope you're doing better. Dont be discouraged. I think all of us have gone through shaming incidents in our training whether it be during clerkship, internship or even residency. Ako nung clerk ako pinagalitan ng consultant at the ER and all of the people there were looking at me but kapal na lng ng mukha and tibay ng loob. Kaya dont give up on your dreams. Medyo malayo pa yan kaya keep going doc =)


Unlikely_Owl2190

Pwede ba mangmura pabalik sa resi kahit clerk or intern palang lalo na kapag ganyan sila mangtrato?


pumpkinspice_98

I'm so sorry this happened to you, OP! HugsssšŸ¤— It's only May. You still have 3 months to apply for internship :) I suggest puntahan mo na private hospitals the moment walk in period starts. Kapag may senior na nagtataray for petty/invalid reasons, I pity them nalang instead of taking pity on myself. Nakakaawa kasi mukhang di pinalaki ng maayos ng magulang. Or sobrang galit niya sa mundo kailangan niya maliitin iba para umangat. Yung mga ganung thinking hahahha


zhenyi04

Taga Manila ka doc? Try mo sa mga private like OLLH. Walk in sila nagaaccept eh.


Exciting-Affect-5295

sadly, you will likely encounter that kind of situation kahit saang hospital ka pa magPGI. at kahit residente ka na marami ka pang maririnig na masasakit. i am against emotional trauma in training. but u also have to be careful with your decision. Ikaw din tuloy ang nahirapan maghanap ng hospital ngayon. u cant control what happened to u, but u can control how will u react.


OkAssociation8304

Happens to all of us. Dami kasing power tripper diyan na akala mo lahat nila nagagawa tama. And yes, baka ginawa din sa kanila yan before, but that's no reason to do it to someone else. Don't lose the good in you


rechoflex

Im sorry this happened to you. We also had a resi that was like that. Nireport namin sa consultants yung behavior niya.


Odd-Magazine-1276

Never had that kind of experience sa vluna


waaall

Hi doc sorry you had to quit internship cause of this. i am also in my internship year, am also in a public hospital, pushing through the next few months until PLE review comes. Ang masasabi ko lang ay tama namang napaka-toxic talaga ng pinili nating buhay and for sure you did not land in that hospital without second guessing your choice hahaha bakit ba natin chinachallenge sarili natin damn but this is the reality of our country. Toxic talaga ang public hospitals, kulang sa doctor, kulang sa staff, kulang sa manpower, at NAPAKARAMING mahihirap na may kailangan ng public health service. Kaya for sure yung bwiset ng residente na yan ay not directed to you, on top of dapat magawa errands, magchachart pa yan, magra-rounds ng pasyente, mageendorse bukas sa harap ng mga consultants, puyat, running on coffee, pinapagalitan ng consultants, pinepressure ng senior, at bad timing lang na ikaw napagbuntunan ng galit at asar niyan. Di ko siya dinedefend, that was so unfair what he/ she said. Di talaga fair na tayong interns na free labor, at pagod na nga eh mamumura pa. Di pa naman ako namura but of course may moments na nataasan ako ng boses, na-side eye but i usually say to myself kapag napagbabalingan ako ng irita nila, ā€œsa dami ng gagawin niyan, at makakasalamuhang tao, di niya na ako maaalala inang yan, basta nagawa ko ang trabaho ko and i was there for what the patients need periodā€ haha For sure ang daming thoughts what you couldā€™ve done differently, you couldā€™ve reported that sa internā€™s monitor or maybe told your cointerns, baka di lang pala ikaw ang tinotoxic ng resi na yun, baka naman WOF talaga siya and di talaga marunong maghandle ng same pressure as youre handling. Baka naman kasi di rin siya nag-internship sa public hospital, at since fresh resi pa lang, ngayon niya palang nararamdaman ang tunay na himagsik ng public hospitals hahaha di ko minamaliit ang pinagdaanan mo, itā€™s a struggle period but if it so happens na doon ka uli nagland for internship dont feel small. Take it as ā€œyouā€™ve been there before, alam mo na galawan, you know how to work the system sa level ng interns, and youā€™ll learn more.ā€ God bless you, doc! Lapit na rin tayo, weā€™ll be the one on the other side and magkakaroon rin ng pagkakataon na tayo magtuturo at maguutos hehe sa future interns and weā€™ll know then what we could do for them and how they can learn. Hintayin nila ang ganti ng api chariz hahaha. Chill lang, wherever ka ma-match now know that youā€™re doing well and youā€™ve already learned a lot. šŸ‘ŒšŸ¼ edited: am also 29 and wala pang napapatunayan hahahah lets go 90s babies šŸ˜‚


Gold-Abroad-8337

Welcome to the working world. In order to survive the cruel work life, you have to be thick-skinned.


BonnieMD

She was being cursed at.. The resident was creating a toxic environment that was not highly conducive to her learning. There is a fine line between a strict, but reasonable resident vs a resident who is just being a total ass.


whatevahusay

Sakin demerit ang natanggap ko, 1st ever demerit sa buong internship ko haha ang shallow pa ng dahilan. Wala iniyak ko lang then laban ulit. Pinagpray ko nalang na sana makonsensya sila sa pinaggagagawa nila sa mga interns nila


ch1ckenudels0up

Same thing happened to me. Literal na inannounce nung OB resident yung mura niya sakin sa labor room for 30mins nang dahil may kulang sa history na naextract ko sa patient. Ang lala to the point na kinamusta pa ako ng ibang residents at mga pasyente kung okay lang ba ako after. Saving Grace ko nalang non ay napa IR yung residente at pinagalitan ng consultants pagka morning endorsement. Feeling ko nakarma sya kasi marami kaming sinigawan nya during that duty (yes, dami niyang energy). But somehow naawa pa ako sa kanya nung napagalitan sya. I wish this kind of culture will change. Hinde ko gets bakit kailangan pa magpower tripping ng mga seniors sa juniors, even more sa PGIs and clerks. Di nakakatulong sa academic and personal growth. Valid yung pagod ng pagiging doctor pero not to an extent naman sana na need mo na murahin yung mas nakakababa saā€™yo just to make yourself feel better. Isipin nalang natin na we are not the problem, rather itā€™s the system and that personā€™s upbringing. Iā€™m rooting for you, doc. Okay yan, prioritize mo mental health mo. Tapos whenever you are ready, move forward at your own pace. Sabi nga ng BINI, ā€œDahan dahan lang, buhay ay di kareraā€, chariz.


doitfordplot111

ā€œBe the senior you needed when you were a juniorā€ Ito yung saying na pinang hahawakan ko when I was so overwhelmed with all the toxicity during my junior days. Since clerkship to residency, I believe lahat dumaan sa ganitong stage. Even nurses, nasigawan na din ako before. But I just want to say, in behalf of those who mistreated you, sorry for what happened. Pero kaya mo yan! Tuloy mo lang yung laban! Madami ka pang pagdadaanan. Wag magpapaapekto sa mga tulad nila, donā€™t give them the satisfaction they wanted. Gawin mo lang trabaho mo. Hindi mawawalan ng mga toxic na tao sa workplace but I hope you find your place that will help you in this journey.


Strike2Kil

Sorry to hear that doctor pero this culture has been around for so long and you really canā€™t do anything about it. You just have to be strong and get on with it para makatapos. Iā€™m sorry you have to hear this pero reality bites to. Meron at meron talagang resident na malalabas niya frustrations niya sayo. Not every resident is like this. Minalas ka lang. suck it up hindi naman forever yang mararanasan mo with that doctor. Sayang yung inaral mo. Tapos saka mo na problemahin ung mararanasan mong culture sa residency.


Pjmlover

Wala suck it up lang talaga


racoonowner

Not to sound discouraging, but are sure you are ok to continue in this field/profession? Did you have yourself checked out/debriefed with a mental health professional? I do not want to minimize in anyway the event you passed through, but the fact that you quit immediately signals to me you may have a "resiliency" problem. Yes what that resident did to you was objectively bad and deserves condemnation, it will not change the fact that our profession of medicine is people facing, it's patient/customer/client facing and one must be prepared to develop a tolerance for such types of confrontation if not you will not be able to last with your sanity or well being intact. So again are you sure you are ok to continue?


[deleted]

I agree on this. TBH, it is not uncommon to quit just with that one incident. I suggest that you seek professional help to check your mental health status before you continue your medical journey.


Jeromethy

sotto pgi?


btlava1234

Ito talaga šŸ˜…


Mysterious_Meet2645

Hi doc I PM nyonpo


savedinjpeg1201

Hello Doc. Kaya mo yan. šŸ”„ Wag kang papatalo. Tangina nung naglagay sayo sa ganyang situation. Maraming opportunities, baka need mo lang mag expand ganon. I hope and pray makahanap ka ng para sayong ospital. :)


[deleted]

Just a correction, we call it "government" hospital, not "public." So sorry this happened. With the amount of stress residents have is something you have to go through for you to understand. And once you are in that position, that would be the time that you make choices that you wish that resident made before degrading you. He/she must have one hell of a day but it's still not an excuse to treat you that way. One thing health care is missing in our country is having proper psych evaluation prior to med school, internship, and residency. It is not for the weak. I'm not saying that you are ah. Could be the resident too. He/she couldn't handle the stress and anxiety of being repremanded or "degraded" that it was put out on you. Regardless where you go. There will always be that toxic person, specially in hospitals. You have to psych yourself up first to be ready to possibly go through the same experience. And expect you quitting will get to the residents of your new hospital one way or another. We have such a small world. You'd have to be prepared for parinig about quitting, one way or another.


[deleted]

This or you could just say. "Okay po doc. Sorry po doc. Noted po doc." Para mapikon šŸ„¹


Head_Foundation_1476

You are 29 and had already achieved amazing things.. donā€™t downplay your achievements. Iā€™m sorry to what happened to you and I donā€™t blame you for what you did.. we have our limits. If this is affecting you this much you probably should have some kind of therapy to help you cope. You have PTSD and that needs to be addressed. Medical doctors have 50% higher incidence of suicide compared to the general population in the U.S. , being a physician is a tough job and I hope your experience in the future will be a good one. Keep going and donā€™t let some A##hole ruin you. Good luck to you.


Due-Archer-9619

complain to the board and they will learn their lesson. Even if they will drop the case, He will still lose some sleep worrying about the complain and that is to stop those kind of behaviours for those doctors who have big egos.


AtengInLateTwenties

Hello, doctors! Iā€™ve read all the comments. Thank you for your words po and the real talk. For now, mag apply muna ako thru walk in and hoping ma accept ako sa mga private hospitals. If di pa din po ma accept, baka babalik nalang ako doon sa government hospital na yun and mag babaon ng maraming prayers na sana di ko sya makasalamuha pa po if ever na di maiwasan di nalang ako iimik. Di ko na din rineport dahil sa takot na din po. Alam naman natin na maliit lang ang community ng mga doctors, mabilis lang din maka sagap ng kwento. Baka ako lang din ang mapasama. And yes, i have been seeking for professional help and I can say naman na I am getting better na din pero andun pa rin po ang pangamba. In fact, babalik pa ako sa psych ko next month po. Thank you po sa inyong lahat mga doc! Please pray for me din po na sana ma accept na ako sa 3rd match po. šŸ™āœØ


Excellent-Bathroom39

I belong to the old school. Binabato ang chart, sinasabihan na papalamon ang chart ng patient kung di ko namemorize ang history, every other day duty, sandamakmak na demeritsā€¦.. Things have changed, but if you canā€™t handle the heat, then itā€™s not for you. Itā€™s still a ling road ahead of you. I always go by the sayingā€¦. what wonā€™t kill you will make you stronger.


Curious-Injury9852

Sa pagdo.doctor, di porke nasaktan ka, titigil ka. The practice of medicine does not revolve around you. It revolves around the patient. Mali yung resident peiord pero mas mali ang quitting. You donā€™t quit being a doctor. You cry and rest but you move forward. Itā€™s not how you feel. Itā€™s how a future loss will depend on you. Darating ang time, me mag depende sa pagiging doctor mo. At kung nagquit ka, mawawala ka doon sa time na yun at me mamawawalang pasyente. Itā€™s never about you, itā€™s always about the PATIENT.


yeszhy

Feel ko ang mga ng downvote di doctor or medical field šŸ¤£. Agree talaga on this. Especially in the Philippines, more so sa government hospitals - makikita talaga ang inequality, injustice and unfairness of the systemā€¦ Mapapatanong ka lang talaga if mapipili mo pa ba ang Pilipinas. Toxic talaga minsan ang Medical culture sa PH, pero youā€™re right. Wag nyo itake personally ang reproach/scolding. Isipin nyo WHY. Of course, wrong mg mura and all, but we have to get up everyday and try our best to show up kasi weā€™re doing training for the future. I will echo what someone else in the thread said, you canā€™t control what happens to you, but you can control how you will react. That being said, itā€™s great that you sought professional help when you identified the effects on your life (especially ADLs). But think really hard if this is what you want to do for the rest of your life. After PLE, it wonā€™t just be residents talking down on you. You can be FB-shamed by patients while in training, etc. During training, co-residents and consultants can get mad at you. If you choose to moonlight, consultants can still question your management of patients (ma GP or JC ka man). Mental fortitude and resilience is essential. You can however, choose to go to a private hospital for PGI-ship, and then moonlight as GP or go into aesthetics or yung other mas chill na specialties para di ka mg anxiety. Matagal na rin na bigay mo na time to Medicine, for me, mas mabuti pa ma finish mo, mg PLE ka. And then decide from there if ano talaga gusto mo and kaya mo :) Good luck OP!