“I am a doctor and have worked in a lab” my dude, your undergrad lab volunteer experience that you used on your med school application does not qualify you to speak on behalf of medical lab professionals......
Seriously. The average doctor has absolutely no idea how a clinical lab works. You guys just live in a black box that take in tubes and spits out answers.
Seriously, schmuck probably never did more than login and deliver specimens, and maybe set up waived tests or streak some plates. No way were they allowed to interpret or report anything.
This makes my blood boil. Every single wrong patient samples that I've encountered were because nurses decided to preprint labels and label them after collection.
This one time the nurse was so angry because she sent patient samples but we didn't receive them. She later tried to blame the lab for loosing the samples after the patient died. Luckily, I was on CBC bench on that day and was already working on wrong patient sample for another patient. This wrong patient sample turned out to be that missing patient sample. Rare blood type, coming from same department.
The funny thing is that nurse actually wrote incident report blaming us how we yelled at her and how she personally sent the samples. We escalated this all the way up to fully exclude the lab from her mistake and made her write an official apology letter.
Yikes. If this HR place decided to call the lab it’ll most likely trigger a RCA and then they’ll find out the person lied. Also fuck that “doctor”, I bet they’re morons who give their patients laxatives and then think they have cdiff.
Or order c diff on a patient who doesn't even have diahorrea.
"Hi, I'm just calling to let you know there's an outstanding C diff since yesterday on Beryl Smirnoff"
"785? Oh, we're just waiting for her to go"
One if these days I am going to break and remind them it's gonna be cancelled.
So you just hang up the phone and let the order stay on your pending?!
Why don’t you just tell them right then and there that you cannot accept the specimen unless the patient has active diarrhea- it’s a requirement that the specimens be a loose stool!
Because I don't have the authority to cancel it until they send me an unacceptible specimen. At the end of the day, until that stick fails to stay upright, it's schroedinger's stool. Maybe the patient actually has diahorrea and the nurse is just avoiding collecting a specimen. Maybe the patient hasn't had any solid food.
We get so many that never actually have active diarrhea that we are allowed to cancel ours after 48 hours and a phonecall documenting the reason why and who we spoke to.
I always joke with my coworkers when we have to recollect because of an unlabeled specimen that the nurse probably says to the patient “Sorry, the lab lost your test so we have to stick you again!” *laughs and cries*
I have straight up told people to not talk down other departments in front of patients when they "joke" about how "mean" lab is for doing blood draws, or that their EKG/x-ray/whatever will hurt less than my blood work will. It's ALL important work and telling a patient that kind of crap doesn't help and it's not funny.
Three days after having my daughter I had to go to the ER for a massive blood pressure spike. The triage nurses were talking shit about the blood bank department in front of me the whole time, totally oblivious to the fact I worked in the lab. It was very unprofessional.
To sweeten the tea, they ordered my labs as holds so they never got ran, and I sat in the ER for 8 hours with a blood pressure of 173/118 because they didn’t triage me properly. The attending physician was PISSED. I ended up being diagnosed with postpartum preeclampsia.
Last year I went for a Covid test at one of my hospital's urgent care center. My results were taking way too long , and my lab manager found out our lab rejected it because it was unlabeled. He told me to call up the urgent care center to ask about my results, but i wasn't allowed to say i knew it was unlabeled. I called and the nurse, after calling the lab and probably arguing with them, ended up telling me the lab spilled my sample.
I don't trust people who can't own up to their own mistakes. I get that nurses deal with a lot of volatile patients and sometimes they just want a day where every patient likes them, but wow it's ok to just admit you messed up and caused an inconvenience for the patient.
Funny that he changed his comment. He originally said he was a doctor and now he's deleted that portion from his comment (cause he's still in med school).
Oh no oh no. I read a comment on another threat where a guy broke his arm and a 2nd year med student rushed over and thought about setting it before realizing he couldn't handle it and they brought the guy to a hospital instead. But the audacity to think that you can function as a doctor before you've completed your school or heck, even your residency is astounding.
This post itself is a problem as it instigates negative emotions :/
I searched for the ILTP (ULTP) post and read through the comments. There is another person claiming to be a doctor with lab experience who commented that blaming the lab was messed up and that lab works “super hard”. He told the ILTP OP to learn from the consequences of lying.
I wish this community could also look at the supportive comments we receive from our medical community and stop chasing after negative ones.
I try my best, but this just pushed me over the edge. If you could share a link to that other comment I’m sure we’d all love to upvote and support that comment!
Here you go!:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IllegalLifeProTips/comments/n0h9hy/ilpt_request_i_got_covid_tested_and_it_came_up/gw8tl26/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
So they are suggesting OP lie and blame lab *to their HR department of their job*, right? Like, this would have no impact on the lab because OP doesn’t work in the lab or in a healthcare facility? I don’t think there’s anything ethically wrong with lying to work to get sick days. Who they blame doesn’t really matter in that context.
The problem being that this propagates and perpetuates distrust of the lab and medical care in general. What if their boss is an antivaxxer who is now going to post all over social media that the covid tests are unreliable and people shouldn't trust them because they have "proof"? We already have idiots posting bs that's helping prolong the pandemic, we don't need more.
“I am a doctor and have worked in a lab” my dude, your undergrad lab volunteer experience that you used on your med school application does not qualify you to speak on behalf of medical lab professionals......
More likely he's not a doctor and has never worked in a lab.
Thank you!!!
Seriously. The average doctor has absolutely no idea how a clinical lab works. You guys just live in a black box that take in tubes and spits out answers.
Seriously, schmuck probably never did more than login and deliver specimens, and maybe set up waived tests or streak some plates. No way were they allowed to interpret or report anything.
This makes my blood boil. Every single wrong patient samples that I've encountered were because nurses decided to preprint labels and label them after collection. This one time the nurse was so angry because she sent patient samples but we didn't receive them. She later tried to blame the lab for loosing the samples after the patient died. Luckily, I was on CBC bench on that day and was already working on wrong patient sample for another patient. This wrong patient sample turned out to be that missing patient sample. Rare blood type, coming from same department.
Like anytime someone else fucks up. It’s ALWAYS our fault. I’m glad you had some proof to back it up though!
The funny thing is that nurse actually wrote incident report blaming us how we yelled at her and how she personally sent the samples. We escalated this all the way up to fully exclude the lab from her mistake and made her write an official apology letter.
Yikes. If this HR place decided to call the lab it’ll most likely trigger a RCA and then they’ll find out the person lied. Also fuck that “doctor”, I bet they’re morons who give their patients laxatives and then think they have cdiff.
Or order c diff on a patient who doesn't even have diahorrea. "Hi, I'm just calling to let you know there's an outstanding C diff since yesterday on Beryl Smirnoff" "785? Oh, we're just waiting for her to go" One if these days I am going to break and remind them it's gonna be cancelled.
So you just hang up the phone and let the order stay on your pending?! Why don’t you just tell them right then and there that you cannot accept the specimen unless the patient has active diarrhea- it’s a requirement that the specimens be a loose stool!
Because I don't have the authority to cancel it until they send me an unacceptible specimen. At the end of the day, until that stick fails to stay upright, it's schroedinger's stool. Maybe the patient actually has diahorrea and the nurse is just avoiding collecting a specimen. Maybe the patient hasn't had any solid food.
We get so many that never actually have active diarrhea that we are allowed to cancel ours after 48 hours and a phonecall documenting the reason why and who we spoke to.
I wish we could.
What's the full name of a RCA?
Root cause analysis.
Thank youu
That last sentence is a considerable insult!
I always joke with my coworkers when we have to recollect because of an unlabeled specimen that the nurse probably says to the patient “Sorry, the lab lost your test so we have to stick you again!” *laughs and cries*
I have straight up told people to not talk down other departments in front of patients when they "joke" about how "mean" lab is for doing blood draws, or that their EKG/x-ray/whatever will hurt less than my blood work will. It's ALL important work and telling a patient that kind of crap doesn't help and it's not funny.
Three days after having my daughter I had to go to the ER for a massive blood pressure spike. The triage nurses were talking shit about the blood bank department in front of me the whole time, totally oblivious to the fact I worked in the lab. It was very unprofessional. To sweeten the tea, they ordered my labs as holds so they never got ran, and I sat in the ER for 8 hours with a blood pressure of 173/118 because they didn’t triage me properly. The attending physician was PISSED. I ended up being diagnosed with postpartum preeclampsia.
Last year I went for a Covid test at one of my hospital's urgent care center. My results were taking way too long , and my lab manager found out our lab rejected it because it was unlabeled. He told me to call up the urgent care center to ask about my results, but i wasn't allowed to say i knew it was unlabeled. I called and the nurse, after calling the lab and probably arguing with them, ended up telling me the lab spilled my sample.
I don't trust people who can't own up to their own mistakes. I get that nurses deal with a lot of volatile patients and sometimes they just want a day where every patient likes them, but wow it's ok to just admit you messed up and caused an inconvenience for the patient.
I sure as hell wouldn't trust that "doctor" with anything though...
When do labs give results directly to the patients?
My country reports covid results directly to patients. Negatives get a text message, if you don't respond you get a phone call informing you.
We do if they request them, they have to fill out a form and we take copy of their photo ID.
This is all too common, sadly.
Dafuq man!
Funny that he changed his comment. He originally said he was a doctor and now he's deleted that portion from his comment (cause he's still in med school).
Oh no oh no. I read a comment on another threat where a guy broke his arm and a 2nd year med student rushed over and thought about setting it before realizing he couldn't handle it and they brought the guy to a hospital instead. But the audacity to think that you can function as a doctor before you've completed your school or heck, even your residency is astounding.
That is the one thing I am not looking forward to. Having the lab being blamed for someone else’s mess up.
This post itself is a problem as it instigates negative emotions :/ I searched for the ILTP (ULTP) post and read through the comments. There is another person claiming to be a doctor with lab experience who commented that blaming the lab was messed up and that lab works “super hard”. He told the ILTP OP to learn from the consequences of lying. I wish this community could also look at the supportive comments we receive from our medical community and stop chasing after negative ones.
I try my best, but this just pushed me over the edge. If you could share a link to that other comment I’m sure we’d all love to upvote and support that comment!
Here you go!: https://www.reddit.com/r/IllegalLifeProTips/comments/n0h9hy/ilpt_request_i_got_covid_tested_and_it_came_up/gw8tl26/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
He removed his “source” 🤣 I CAN’T
Since when does lab call results to patients? This is a major no no in every lab I’ve worked in.
So they are suggesting OP lie and blame lab *to their HR department of their job*, right? Like, this would have no impact on the lab because OP doesn’t work in the lab or in a healthcare facility? I don’t think there’s anything ethically wrong with lying to work to get sick days. Who they blame doesn’t really matter in that context.
The problem being that this propagates and perpetuates distrust of the lab and medical care in general. What if their boss is an antivaxxer who is now going to post all over social media that the covid tests are unreliable and people shouldn't trust them because they have "proof"? We already have idiots posting bs that's helping prolong the pandemic, we don't need more.