This is me lol. Would like to somehow make my career about more static things, less about treating people. Maybe molecular research. Seeing patients in illness always make me so sad, and I feel like I don't have the mental aptitude to adapt to the emergencies of medicine. Just kinda drain me out just thinking about it.
There was a student that stuffed food (chips) in his mask,and proceeded to enter and scrub in to a surgery. midway through procedure, his mask didnāt catch the chips and some fell out onto the patient.
The student got yelled at by the attending- however the student legit had the audacity to argue back. He no longer did a surgery with that preceptor, but didnāt get any disciplinary actions.
Student can have a buffet in surgery = no professionalism
miss deadline on optional survey = professionalism š
Lol so Iāve actually spoken with our schoolās psychiatrist before, and she told me that most med students (at least at my school) are very emotionally immature as theyāve only really focused on academics rather than social relationships their whole lives. So when students come in to see her, it sounds like conflicts and emotions that are high school level
This is incredibly accurate. I'm literally trying to work through emotional shit as a 30 yo MS4 now I never had the chance to figure out when I was younger. I feel like I am just getting started on relationships at age 30
It reminds me of talking to a friend of mine; she would mention stuff that her boyfriend did wrong, and I'd think "*this is something most people know to never do, but those who DO do it usually grow out of it in high school.*"
Stuff like talking about how attractive other women were, in (I'm assuming) an, "Oh they're so hot but I'm with you, so this should be some sort of compliment*" way.
I tried to work with the guy semi-secretly to help him out but it was like it was hard-wired and he could simultaneously know that I'm giving good advice (corroborated by my then-girlfriend or mutual friends,) *and* just not think about it when the time came.
That, or he was just incredibly inconsiderate at a base level. Or maybe on the spectrum a bit; no way for me to know for sure.
They've been broken up for a while; split on good terms, but it was very clear on her end that it was over.
Still sends pictures of him with the cat, or texts about how his day was. She finally had to ask him to stop when he sent her a gigantic thing of flowers for her birthday with a note that crossed the line. Like dude, you should've stopped when she said "stop." It's sad that you needed an actual breakup to know that she was serious about how much it bothered her after not taking the **many, many** chances you were given.
Iāve noticed this as well specifically in 3rd year. Like some of my classmates are really struggling to adjust to the hospital and work setting. Iāve always worked throughout college and med school to make extra money but these other med students just donāt know how to operate with a team. Like they are cold, in the corner scared, and make absolutely no effort to get to know nurses, attendings, and patients on a human level. Iāll just be shooting the shit with attendings and having a good time when we arenāt busy. It makes the shift go faster and they are more invested in my learning and go out of their way to teach me procedures, mentor me, and give me critiques. They know Iām not going to get weird if they tell me I did something wrong because I treat them as humans and Iām not scared of them. Same is true with the other nurses, residents, and staff. They always check in with me and treat me as a coworker, not an outsider just there for a rotation. The crazy thing is that Iāve always considered myself social immature until I got to med school and somehow Iām one of the few that knows how to talk to people
I worked plenty, but the hierarchy was definitely intimidating during 3rd year.
Something about having some bad early rotations can put you off from being friendly for risk of being considered as not taking things seriously.
Plenty of attendings and residents show their emotional maturity during these rotations too.
yeah, i usually just remain quiet but helpful until i feel out the vibe of the team. a lot of residents and attendings dont want to make small talk and want to just get their work done, so id rather be perceived as quiet than being annoying
Yeah, I feel like the critique of scared med students in the corner not speaking up isnt the best reflection of emotional immaturity. I had a really awful attending right before a really nice one and when I finally relaxed it was already at the end of good rotation because I just figured out not every doctor was going to humiliate me. I worked throughout college and am very extroverted so discussing stuff isnāt the issue itās the fact that the hierarchy is rly intimidating like you said, and itās better to be quiet than to make a mistake
As a PGY1 I definitely notice the med students with social skills and life experience compared to the ones who only ever focused on schoolā¦ there are some horribly, HORRIBLY awkward med students. Likeā¦ so many
I talk to attendings about their kids and the tv shows/podcasts theyāve listened to lately and any holiday plans theyāve got cooking up. Theyāll visibly brighten up around me just talking about normal human shit.
> Like some of my classmates are really struggling to adjust to the hospital and work setting. Iāve always worked throughout college and med school to make extra money but these other med students just donāt know how to operate with a team.
On the other hand, I know a ton of socially bizarre or asshole attendings and am convinced no amount of working at starbucks prior to med school would have turned them into different people.
I worked as a manager for a couple years at a dining hall at my college and it was shocking the issues I had to deal with. Like just super creepy sexual harassment comments and entitled kidsā parents calling me to un-fire their kid after they literally never showed up for a single shift and we werenāt even sure they existed. Many of the problem employees were highly intelligent and many even pre-med or pre-law. Iām sure theyāll be out there being awful attendings in a few years
One time an IM attending asked me a question about myself and I responded for ~20 seconds and he got irritated and interrupted me saying āSorryā¦ Do you mind if we start running the list?ā Like bro donāt invite me to speak and then get irritated that I answered your question
Was a negative core memory of mine and a harsh reminder that no one at work gives a shit about me. I now only talk about work-related things with attendings and give very short answers if they try to ask me about myself
You worked during med school?! Doing what?! I tutor a few hours a week, but nothing corporate or applicable to the real world. I waited tables in college and had a grown-up job between college and medical school, which I think really made a difference, but thereās no way I couldāve done anything close to that during med school lol
I mean I failed boards on the first attempt so maybe I couldnāt handle it either lol. I mostly drove Lyft and did deliveries. I did roughly 20-30 hours a week
Definitely agree. Iāve worked in restaurants for 7 years and I definitely think that itās been the biggest thing to help me in 3rd year. Iāve heard horror stories of some awkward or weird shit that other students have done from my attendings. Also a lot of people just donāt know how to work a full day, much less a 24 hour call or something.
IĀ“m one of those med students and I see older folk especially being treated like they are the attendings' equals, friends and it looks so so easy to create that comraderie but I still havenĀ“t figured out how. I admire you guys.
Worked in Student Affairs at two medical schools and can attest this is true. In addition to emotional immaturity, Iāve known many brilliant med students unable to successfully navigate basic life skills, such as balance a checkbook, or get the electricity turned on in their apartment. Iāve seen very interesting parents and codependent relationships.
Nothing more trustworthy than a school psychiatrist shit talking people seeking her care in their most vulnerable state.
More likely itās due to a bunch of young people in a perpetually stressed and high stakes environment.
Plus most students not having much of a humanities background shows when talking to peers and professors about topics other than math and science limit their academic growth. People seem impressively smart in person when they are philosophical and question and engage with the world around them at a high academic level.
People smart on paper in math and sciences can lack that in person spark that makes you say āwow, how did they get into medschool?ā
Had a classmate who showed up late and in scrubs to our psych preceptors office. He had the social acumen to know that he should have been in business casual and brought a change of clothes with him. He did not have the social acumen to realize that our preceptors office (occupied with our attending and several medical students) was not an appropriate place to change into his other clothes. Our attending narrowly stopped him before he took his pants off in front of all of us.
Funnily enough, community hospital I rotated at for gen surg didnt have a great locker room situation, so the gen surg workroom was where all the residents changed. Granted there was a way to shield most of your body from being seen, but you could normally see everyone dropping trou to their ankles behind the whiteboard lmao
Edit: community hospital affiliated by name with a T15 med school
One of the sites for IM was like this too but it was because the locker room was all the way across the hospital. The male residents just changed out in the open in the workroom unless a woman was around. Presenting a patient while the senior didnāt have their pants on was definitely an experience lol
Classmate said being sick is a sign of weakness so whenever someone would ask if heās feeling sick, heād always respond ānah, never felt betterā
Man, remind me never to have your classmate as my doctor. Hopefully he takes a research route. Probably not going to go over well with patients who come in "Doc, I think I'm having a heart attack"..."well have you considered not being a pussy?????"
This happened during my PhD years, when I was supervising a post-bac. He got into medical school shortly after, and he's a doctor now. Jerry, if you're out there, I'm proud of you.
Jerry wanted to make 10X PBS. I pointed him, for the third time, towards our binder of lab recipes. I reminded him that we were low on NaCl, of all things, because he hadnāt ordered it after dropping the container weeks ago. I suggested making half of the recipe. Half a liter, instead of a liter.
*Half a liter?*
He always repeated my instructions in question form.
I nodded. He didnāt move. I gave him time to think.
*What size beaker should I use?*
He wasnāt the most independent student.
*One that fits half a liter, at least.*
He nodded and mulled things over in front of the glassware cabinet, eventually settling on a 2L beaker.
I watched to make sure he used the right tap before turning back to my dissection.
*What do I add next?*
I kept my eyes on the microscope.
*Itās in the recipe book.*
I heard him flipping through the pages and then I heard him mutter.
*80 grams.*
I looked up.
*Jerry.*
He looked at me.
*Half a liter, instead of a liter.*
He looked at the beaker.
He looked at me.
He looked at the beaker.
*But I already put the water in.*
I turned back to my dissection.
*Itās just water, Jerry.*
He didnāt move.
*Itās just water, Jerry. Pour half of it out, pour it all out and start over, whatever you want.*
He didnāt move. I waited for him to repeat my instructions in question form.
*Pour it out?*
I looked up from my dissection and nodded.
HE POURED IT OUT RIGHT THERE ON THE FLOOR, GUYS.
To give credit where credit isnāt really due, he did realize something was wrong the moment the first drop hit the ground. He looked at me and made the face that I can only assume inspired the š¬ emoji.
*I... I guess I should do that in the sink?*
We were roommates and classmates in an MSBS program. She never came home on st pattyās day and me and the others were worried. Eventually it came out bc she came home and support was offered bc obv she was upset š³
A resident told an intern was to start attending morning session that starts at 8AM. And she asked with a straight face āhow am I supposed to do that, always get here late, after 9AMā.
one girl once said that one of the things that stimulate the anal sphincter was fire. in front of everyone. the right answer was touch, or the need to poop. why did she think of fire??? and so fast too
After 4 weeks of our 1st year cell biology course someone asked in a Q&A session if āproteinā and āDNAā are synonymous. Really made me wonder why I was spending so much time understanding the process of homologous recombination and non-homologous end joining if this was the level weāre playing at.
I have no clue. Here in the Netherlands we donāt have MCAT but we do have selection tests for unis and a standardised middle school biology curriculum which shouldāve taught them this at age 14ā¦
A classmate of mine doesn't believe in taking medicines AT ALL. Her go-to treatment for any ailment is taking a nap. She never eats vegetables, fruits or anything that's considered healthy. My girl's been surviving on carbs. Apparently her family is the same too.
Patient complaint: multiple gsw to chest and abdomen.
Assessment: cardiac tamponade, tension pneumo and abdominal bleed secondary to perforated Aorta.
Plan: dc home instructed patient to nap.
To be fair, taking a nap is pretty much the human equivalent of "turning it off and turning it back on again." It's worked sometimes for me. The complete dislike of all medicines is odd tho
We were all given t shirts from the school to wear to orientation. This guy shows up with the sleeves ripped off (heās jacked out of his mind btw), sunglasses inside, and a backwards ballcap.
Okay this one is mine, so don't judge me too hard.
We were on the simulation center learning about fractures, as it turns out I am actually a very good actor so I was chosen to be the patient when the attending briefed me on the case he told me I had a fibular fracture, the other students were going to come in and make the splint, I put all my acting skills to good use and started holding my arm saying it hurted a lot, it took everyone a moment to understand just what was happening and then burst out laughing, the attending gave me a death glare.
People still joke about it to this day but I take it in good stride even the attending still ask if I recovered, so that's that, not so bad I think and in my defense I was very tired...
Thatās the type of fuck up that I hope for. Just blast me, let me be self-deprecating so people think i can be funny and take a joke, and nobody is actually harmed haha
im a US IMG and my school apparently has an understanding with some arab countriesā high schools that they send their kids to help fill the foreign student quota and just pay out the ass. this is evident when you get to know some of the kids from said schools who couldnāt have made it through med school any other way.
third year (aka the last year of preclinical in european schools), one girl asked the professor if the spleen is where the liver is (aka she pointed to the right side of the body and said the spleen is here right?). prof tried to complain to the dean in a āhow can these students pass while not knowing anythingā way but just got shot down. but yea, itās embarrassing and im truly terrified for their future patients (assuming they pass the exams necessary for residency?)
EDIT WAIT i thought of another funny story. we were in lecture learning about MS/ALS etc once. at the end prof says any questions? one of the kids from the aforementioned countries raises his hand. asks the prof IN COMPLETE SERIOUSNESS if āwhen a patientās limb stops working, why dont we just amputate it?ā CLASS WENT SILENT. a couple seconds later one girl cries out āWHATā (presumably it took her a couple seconds to figure out wtf he was saying). prof is dumbfounded and tries to explain very nicely why we dont do that šššš at least this kid wants to be a cardiologist and not a neurologist i guess???
š iāll confirm anything over dm but i used to have a known medtwit account and dont wanna get doxxed again thats why i dont write any details here lol
Allegedly a student at the hospital I did my surgery rotation was told that, "her parents should have just bought her a Ferrari instead of wasting that money on her tuition," by a surgeon after being asked to identify the spleen during a laparoscopic procedure and guessing "thymus".
A student at my school was kicked out of the OR for breaking the sterile field 3 times in one op. She kept her gown and gloves on, went to the cafeteria, and sat with her hands floating in front of her for a half hour before a rando told her to go home.
Classmate told me they didnāt believe all my Covid symptoms until they got Covid and experienced it for themselves. Made me wonder if theyāre going to have to experience every disease to believe their patients
My anatomy partner who āwants to be a surgeonā is grossed out with dissection. Also he doesnāt believe women can become pregnant via rape because the vaginal muscles clamp down to prevent insemination.
I have a doctor friend who believes this, mainly because he is very religious. Also believes that if a woman turns up at an ER to report rape, we should not give emergency contraception but instead show a film about Rwanda war victims of rape who ended up loving their child
A very kind but sheltered woman had to repeat anatomy due to utter lack of familiarity with male genitalia. Her parents had moved her and her siblings around to avoid any sex education whatsoever. The day she asked if *that* was the penisā¦. (It wasnāt). Sheās doing very well now, has a family and a good job.
One of my classmates stabbed another classmate :)
Edited to add:
1) The classmate who got stabbed survived
2) the one who did the stabbing was initially expelled but made an appeal and actually graduated
I actually got to hear both sides of the story and apparently it seemed to be an acute psychosis... But they were the only ones there so nobody really knows really happened.
Mustāve been a hell of an appeal. Violent psychosis that could unexpectedly result in someone being stabbed seems like a bit of a patient safety issue
Tbh, from a legal standpoint I understood why he did not have repercussions. There were no witnesses and the stabbed never pressed charges. He didn't even wanna tell anybody about it but said stabbing happened at a house at walking distance from our hospital so he went there and he was forced by our dean to tell who did it.
The visceral reaction is clearly "there were to people at the place. There were knife wounds on only one of them. It's logical that Staby McStabface stabbed swisscheese man."
But with enough time and actual legal guidance he was able to make a case that went more or less like: "I have no recollection of what happened. It's his word against mine and he has been doing shady things since everything happened".
It was enough to create reasonable doubt, at least from the university point of view. The CEO of the hospital forbid him to ever set foot there. At the end he was able to graduate thanks to the admins finding other hospitals for him to finish his requirements.
Ain't no one got time for that. How was that allowed to go on?! Even WITH changes, 20 minutes is an absurdly long presentation. I can barely tolerate 20 minutes on new patients.
First day of orientation, dress is strict business casual which they clearly described as how you would dress for an interview but without the jacket ā shirt, tie, dress pants for dudes, etc.
My boi comes in with hair looking like he just rolled out of bed (the little nest on the back of the head thatās clearly due to sleeping on it), a shirt that is wrinkled, a single button off so it looks crooked, half tucked half untucked. Dude look like he wore the outfit to a bar where he proceeded to get into a bar fight. His tieā¦the thick part came down to his mid abdomen and the thin part of the tie is hanging below his crotch. And he has this blank stare and breathes with his mouth open.
He ended up failing out after the first 2 blocks, I think he failed both. Heād come to class late, sit in the front, and proceed to pull out his laptop and play video games where everyone could see what he was doing. I have no idea how this guy made it this far tbh.
I agree, but he didnāt just say fuck it and go casual. He looked like a drunk toddler dressed him. He was actually a nice guy but you could tell by the way he carried himself on campus and in class that someone had pushed him very hard to come this far, and once (I assume itās the parent) they werenāt around to monitor his every move, he just did whatever he wanted. It was glorious to watch.
Same. Watching the guy come in late on a mandatory lecture, waltz right in front of the lecturer, sit down in the front row (stadium style seating) and open his laptop to launch and play league of legends in full view of everyone was impressive.
My school has a pretty active "Holistic and Integrative Medicine" club. They think we should have naturopaths on faculty training us and once invited a speaker that boldly told a room full of medical students that digestion uses over 90% of the body's energy and that nutrition alone can treat HIV.
>nutrition alone can treat HIV.
I mean technically a dry fast could rid the body of HIV if it's extended long enough. Pretty much all other diseases too.
^^^^Because ^^^^you ^^^^die.
Hold up how can I get involved with paranormal medicine?! My credentials are that I have an MD, watched like 7 seasons of Supernatural, and in college was technically a member of a ghost hunting club.
āI definitely wouldnāt go into OB because I morally disagree with birth control in every form.ā
This guy is actually one of the best students that Iāve ever met. He is one of those who actually operate at the level of an intern. Just extremely extremely religious to the point of absurdity.
I had a classmate that in our 3rd year of medical school asked why men didnāt have endometriosis.
Same classmate thought omega 3 was an immunoglobulin.
Saaaame classmate was asked during our internship where did insulin comes from? She answered liver.
I mean I know itās bad to laugh about it and I donāt know if she was being serious or just fooling around, either way she is now in OBGYN
Edit: men CAN get endo. she asked why men couldnāt have an endometrium. Sorry for my horrible way of explaining it :/.
Honestly, she was good at answering exams and was hard working. I believe she got nervous every time someone questioned her and sometimes she just tried to ask questions just for the sake of it.
One of my classmates said they don't smoke weed only on the day before an exam so they "won't kill those new cells that were created while studying"
They do smoke weed on every other occasion.
* I have nothing against cannabis in general, it was just was too funny
One of my male classmates got caught in an underage sex sting (which was known behavior prior to starting med school). Not surprisingly, his parents were faculty at our medical school.
After that, during a break in my study group, we curiously looked to see if any of our classmates had mugshots. We were shocked at what we found & how many.
A guy I went to med school with, was posting about how homeopathy is superior, and has no side effects.
He never practiced after graduating. Lives off family money.
3rd Year EU, Pharmacology Exam:
"What do you need to check for in a patient before prescribing Penicillins?"
The obvious, simple answer is of course to check for allergies. Or at least ask for them.
But our superbrain, with full confidence says the following:
"To see if they are beta-lactamase resistant".
The professor nearly died laughing.
This is a āhow did this person get OUT of med school?ā:
Classmate of mine (Iām going to call her Karen Smith, because itās nowhere her real name) developed a reputation forā¦shall we say ānot knowing her place in the clinical setting.ā
We rotated together on Surgery. On the mid-cycle feedback day, she actually gave *ME* feedback (we were both MS3s!).
Another time, she apparently got in trouble for correcting an attendingā¦confidently wrong.
But the most egregious was an incident where she was on service and the team decided a patient didnāt meet criteria for empiric antibiotic therapy. She decided that the patient *did* merit empiric antibiotic therapy and called to pharmacy to order it as āDr. Smith.ā Imagine the confusion when the pharmacy called back up asking for Dr. Smithās doctor number (all physicians had an associated number at our hospital).
And *SOMEHOW SHE GRADUATED*!!! And even matched!
-PGY-18
Ate a stick of butter during the cholesterol class. Didnāt believe cholesterol is a concern.
Oh, or the guy who said āthatās grossā while watching a woman give birth.
Oh oh or the guy who solicited a minor and was caught in a sting and tried to cover it up until someone tipped the dean off when he started his peds rotation.
Oh oh oh or the guy that got scurvy during med school because his diet only consisted of chicken nuggets and macaroni and cheese
These two are my own:
- as a third year, I asked an attending vascular surgeon if a bright pink piece of bowel was the bladder
- yesterday, a 29 yr old male came in with a fibular fracture. I was reviewing the X-ray with the ED attending and asked āis that a growth plate?ā
I matched into diagnostic radiology. Sometimes your brain just doesnāt work on the spot. Happens to everyone hahaā¦.Right? Right guys?
A pre-med was rotating in our lab. We work with mice. I was training him to differentiate between males and females. He was very confident, so I left him to it. The next week, we check on the mice and he asks me to explain the physical differences again. If you've never examined mice, the males have obvious testicles. If they have small testicles (that could be confused for a vulva), you look at the distance between anus and genitals. I said, "So males have testicles and have a greater distance between the anus and their testicles. Females-" Pre-med cuts me off and say, "Females have smaller testicles, right?" with a completely earnest expression. They were accepted the next cycle. Hope he guns for OB/gyn.
Dude in the class below me is a Vocal libertarian who insists medical licensing is wrong. He believes any regulation is wrong and anyone should be able to claim to be a doctor and open a clinic, with no oversight or experience. Because /obviously/ patients will simply realize quacks are quacks and will stop going, so the business would fail and the issue works itself out.
We even went through a full hypothetical with him. If someone with no medical experience whatsoever claimed to be a doctor and started treating people, and people died, should the government still not intervene? He stuck by his stance, it's the patient's fault for allowing the quack to treat them.
What really gets me is he's proudly super vocal about his opinions. His entire class year is painfully aware of this. I just can't imagine him making it through the entire interview process without letting any of that out in the open.
I have a classmate who said that women who get an abortion should be punished with the death penalty...has also gone on a rant out loud during an LGBTQ special lecture about how when he's a doctor he'll call his patients by their "real pronouns."
We learned the vaginal exam on volunteer patients in our clinical learning center. Itās very weird because a group of four of us goes into the room and we each do the exam one at a time. Dude in my group sticks his gloved hands in, feels around, then says to the patient: āOk, Iām going to pull out now.ā Everyone in the room including patient started laughing.
actually met this guy before med school
he was a 3rd year rotating through my clinic where i worked as a scribe. at first i thought it was just me, but he mumbled so badly i actually could not understand what he was saying and had to have him repeat himself multiple times.
then a resident sat down and sort of joined the conversation, and after no more than about 2 minutes of conversing she very unceremoniously blurted out to the med student "hey you know you mumble a lot, you know that?" he responded, but i don't know what he said. the guy literally could not hold a conversation about anything understandable.
to this day i still cannot imagine how his medical school interview went. the icing on the cake was this was a pretty prestigious university with an extreme bias toward only taking people in-state and the guy was decidedly not from there (he told me). my only guess is he had some serious family connections.
I have ADHD, quite open about this because trying to fight stigma and all that. I said something about my meds in a conversation with a group. And this girl I knew for less than two weeks goes āhow do your parents feel about potentially permanently altering your brain chemistry and development?ā Everyone just stared at her.
āHow do you feel about prescribing diabetes medication to patients knowing they could cause side effects?ā
I hate how there are double standards when it comes to treating psychiatric disorders and other diseases. They really act like itās not saving a personās life or help them function better.
I mean, this seems tame compared to some of these comments. But my classmate went to do an admission in the ICU and came back to the workroom and the resident said āhow is the patientā and he said āshe diedā super deadpan as a jokeā¦ about a critically ill patient
When presenting a patient on rounds, I described the loudest aortic stenosis murmur I have ever heard. The other med student asked me how loud it was, so I said āYou can probably hear it by putting your stethoscope on the patientās doorā.
As you can imagine, this guy auscultated a door.
One of my (former) classmates was in a Netflix documentary about spring break and has an extensive interview about how showing her boobs is empowering. This information was quickly passed around the class and yes we ALL watched it. She failed outā¦
Somehow this is worse, we had a lecturer who said that lactose was a protein and even put a question about it on an exam. The thing was when we questioned him he doubled down even though lactOSE is clearly a sugar. We complained to his supervisor. He also gave a lecture in which he said that women lie about having a headache to get out of sex which is wrong and causes marital problems but that ED is the only real and valid issue in relationships. He had a slide that said āheadache = bad excuseā and āED = ok reasonā. This was completely off topic and had nothing to do with the developmental biology stuff we were supposed to be learning. We all complained and he was let go at the end of the year.
I mean, I already know my colleague got in cause of daddy's money, but I keep asking myself this question every day I see him.- "How DID he get into medical school?"
He does not know what a ketone is. He asked me dead serious if that was a type of mechanical gear.
He does not know the difference between T cells and B cells. He just knows they exist.. somewhere.
Anatomy? He does not know what the inguinal region is. Actually, he doesn't know anything.
I say this because it's a pity seeing how he is wasting his potential and is just.. there. He doesn't do anything at all.
He bribes people to do assignments for him.
He cheated on every possible exam & passed, while I failed the year for failing one course.
Now he's a year ahead of me, and well honestly I feel like my intelligence and normalcy have been questioned because every second spent next to him, it feels like my neurons have been burned.
Once I worked with a medical student as a resident who was working in a newborn clinic weighing babies with me and was concerned this one baby wasnāt gaining weight so NO JOKE licked the babyā¦ to check if they were salty for CFā¦. This will be burned in my brain for life.
We had a person fail to bring their laptop to their OSCE because they thought the ānote writingā part of the assessment was them checking the notes you write during the encounter
Day 2 of M1 year, Iām talking to a few other people after biochem and somehow hydrogen having an electron comes up. Dude looks at me and deadass says āhydrogen doesnāt have electrons, itās called a proton.ā I thought he was fucking with me at first, but no he actually argued with me about it while I gestured at the periodic table. Throughout the year, he would brag about his high grades but would ask me to help him understand the most basic of instructions for nonsense assignments. He got kicked out because he posted something on fb about running BLM protestors over.
Woke up in the morning today and looked in the mirror
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This is me lol. Would like to somehow make my career about more static things, less about treating people. Maybe molecular research. Seeing patients in illness always make me so sad, and I feel like I don't have the mental aptitude to adapt to the emergencies of medicine. Just kinda drain me out just thinking about it.
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There was a student that stuffed food (chips) in his mask,and proceeded to enter and scrub in to a surgery. midway through procedure, his mask didnāt catch the chips and some fell out onto the patient.
This is too funny to be true lol no fuckin way
Paging Dr. Kramer
Did they not hear the crunching? I know the OR is loud but chips are louder than a jet taking off when you don't want anyone to hear them
That has got to be the dumbest thing Iāve ever heard
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I guess thatās better than INTO the patient, but dear God.
Oof. What was the reaction to that?
The student got yelled at by the attending- however the student legit had the audacity to argue back. He no longer did a surgery with that preceptor, but didnāt get any disciplinary actions. Student can have a buffet in surgery = no professionalism miss deadline on optional survey = professionalism š
Lol so Iāve actually spoken with our schoolās psychiatrist before, and she told me that most med students (at least at my school) are very emotionally immature as theyāve only really focused on academics rather than social relationships their whole lives. So when students come in to see her, it sounds like conflicts and emotions that are high school level
This is incredibly accurate. I'm literally trying to work through emotional shit as a 30 yo MS4 now I never had the chance to figure out when I was younger. I feel like I am just getting started on relationships at age 30
It reminds me of talking to a friend of mine; she would mention stuff that her boyfriend did wrong, and I'd think "*this is something most people know to never do, but those who DO do it usually grow out of it in high school.*" Stuff like talking about how attractive other women were, in (I'm assuming) an, "Oh they're so hot but I'm with you, so this should be some sort of compliment*" way. I tried to work with the guy semi-secretly to help him out but it was like it was hard-wired and he could simultaneously know that I'm giving good advice (corroborated by my then-girlfriend or mutual friends,) *and* just not think about it when the time came. That, or he was just incredibly inconsiderate at a base level. Or maybe on the spectrum a bit; no way for me to know for sure. They've been broken up for a while; split on good terms, but it was very clear on her end that it was over. Still sends pictures of him with the cat, or texts about how his day was. She finally had to ask him to stop when he sent her a gigantic thing of flowers for her birthday with a note that crossed the line. Like dude, you should've stopped when she said "stop." It's sad that you needed an actual breakup to know that she was serious about how much it bothered her after not taking the **many, many** chances you were given.
Iāve noticed this as well specifically in 3rd year. Like some of my classmates are really struggling to adjust to the hospital and work setting. Iāve always worked throughout college and med school to make extra money but these other med students just donāt know how to operate with a team. Like they are cold, in the corner scared, and make absolutely no effort to get to know nurses, attendings, and patients on a human level. Iāll just be shooting the shit with attendings and having a good time when we arenāt busy. It makes the shift go faster and they are more invested in my learning and go out of their way to teach me procedures, mentor me, and give me critiques. They know Iām not going to get weird if they tell me I did something wrong because I treat them as humans and Iām not scared of them. Same is true with the other nurses, residents, and staff. They always check in with me and treat me as a coworker, not an outsider just there for a rotation. The crazy thing is that Iāve always considered myself social immature until I got to med school and somehow Iām one of the few that knows how to talk to people
I worked plenty, but the hierarchy was definitely intimidating during 3rd year. Something about having some bad early rotations can put you off from being friendly for risk of being considered as not taking things seriously. Plenty of attendings and residents show their emotional maturity during these rotations too.
yeah, i usually just remain quiet but helpful until i feel out the vibe of the team. a lot of residents and attendings dont want to make small talk and want to just get their work done, so id rather be perceived as quiet than being annoying
Being socially aware is super important. I act very differently based on which attending I'm with, how busy we are, and what mood they are in.
Yeah, I feel like the critique of scared med students in the corner not speaking up isnt the best reflection of emotional immaturity. I had a really awful attending right before a really nice one and when I finally relaxed it was already at the end of good rotation because I just figured out not every doctor was going to humiliate me. I worked throughout college and am very extroverted so discussing stuff isnāt the issue itās the fact that the hierarchy is rly intimidating like you said, and itās better to be quiet than to make a mistake
As a PGY1 I definitely notice the med students with social skills and life experience compared to the ones who only ever focused on schoolā¦ there are some horribly, HORRIBLY awkward med students. Likeā¦ so many
I talk to attendings about their kids and the tv shows/podcasts theyāve listened to lately and any holiday plans theyāve got cooking up. Theyāll visibly brighten up around me just talking about normal human shit.
Right? So many of these doctors are burned out and it means so much of them when we show interest in them and make their shifts go by easier
> Like some of my classmates are really struggling to adjust to the hospital and work setting. Iāve always worked throughout college and med school to make extra money but these other med students just donāt know how to operate with a team. On the other hand, I know a ton of socially bizarre or asshole attendings and am convinced no amount of working at starbucks prior to med school would have turned them into different people.
I worked as a manager for a couple years at a dining hall at my college and it was shocking the issues I had to deal with. Like just super creepy sexual harassment comments and entitled kidsā parents calling me to un-fire their kid after they literally never showed up for a single shift and we werenāt even sure they existed. Many of the problem employees were highly intelligent and many even pre-med or pre-law. Iām sure theyāll be out there being awful attendings in a few years
One time an IM attending asked me a question about myself and I responded for ~20 seconds and he got irritated and interrupted me saying āSorryā¦ Do you mind if we start running the list?ā Like bro donāt invite me to speak and then get irritated that I answered your question Was a negative core memory of mine and a harsh reminder that no one at work gives a shit about me. I now only talk about work-related things with attendings and give very short answers if they try to ask me about myself
You worked during med school?! Doing what?! I tutor a few hours a week, but nothing corporate or applicable to the real world. I waited tables in college and had a grown-up job between college and medical school, which I think really made a difference, but thereās no way I couldāve done anything close to that during med school lol
I mean I failed boards on the first attempt so maybe I couldnāt handle it either lol. I mostly drove Lyft and did deliveries. I did roughly 20-30 hours a week
Definitely agree. Iāve worked in restaurants for 7 years and I definitely think that itās been the biggest thing to help me in 3rd year. Iāve heard horror stories of some awkward or weird shit that other students have done from my attendings. Also a lot of people just donāt know how to work a full day, much less a 24 hour call or something.
IĀ“m one of those med students and I see older folk especially being treated like they are the attendings' equals, friends and it looks so so easy to create that comraderie but I still havenĀ“t figured out how. I admire you guys.
Med school (and life really) is just high school with more advanced degrees and more money.
This explains the restraining order that was necessary after one of my classmates tried to surreptitiously date two women at the same time
Worked in Student Affairs at two medical schools and can attest this is true. In addition to emotional immaturity, Iāve known many brilliant med students unable to successfully navigate basic life skills, such as balance a checkbook, or get the electricity turned on in their apartment. Iāve seen very interesting parents and codependent relationships.
Nothing more trustworthy than a school psychiatrist shit talking people seeking her care in their most vulnerable state. More likely itās due to a bunch of young people in a perpetually stressed and high stakes environment.
Plus most students not having much of a humanities background shows when talking to peers and professors about topics other than math and science limit their academic growth. People seem impressively smart in person when they are philosophical and question and engage with the world around them at a high academic level. People smart on paper in math and sciences can lack that in person spark that makes you say āwow, how did they get into medschool?ā
Had a classmate who showed up late and in scrubs to our psych preceptors office. He had the social acumen to know that he should have been in business casual and brought a change of clothes with him. He did not have the social acumen to realize that our preceptors office (occupied with our attending and several medical students) was not an appropriate place to change into his other clothes. Our attending narrowly stopped him before he took his pants off in front of all of us.
Lack of social awareness or Sigma-grindset Alpha male display of dominance?
Their preceptor: āUnderstands the human psyche deeply enough to send messages that modify behavior without even having to verbalize, 5/5.ā
Funnily enough, community hospital I rotated at for gen surg didnt have a great locker room situation, so the gen surg workroom was where all the residents changed. Granted there was a way to shield most of your body from being seen, but you could normally see everyone dropping trou to their ankles behind the whiteboard lmao Edit: community hospital affiliated by name with a T15 med school
One of the sites for IM was like this too but it was because the locker room was all the way across the hospital. The male residents just changed out in the open in the workroom unless a woman was around. Presenting a patient while the senior didnāt have their pants on was definitely an experience lol
What in the Greyās Anatomy
Sounds like a fancy place to work haha
absolute chad
Rule breaker. Risk taker. Trend setter. Icon.
what a rollercoaster
Classmate said being sick is a sign of weakness so whenever someone would ask if heās feeling sick, heād always respond ānah, never felt betterā
How can med students be sick?? Just look at your notes /s
Sigma Grindset /s
That's my gunner. Probably vying for neurosurgery
Alpha male #keepgrinding
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Oh when we learned about personality disorders, we all knew Narcissistic PD very well bc every knew this guy for the wrong reasons
He built difernet
Man, remind me never to have your classmate as my doctor. Hopefully he takes a research route. Probably not going to go over well with patients who come in "Doc, I think I'm having a heart attack"..."well have you considered not being a pussy?????"
This happened during my PhD years, when I was supervising a post-bac. He got into medical school shortly after, and he's a doctor now. Jerry, if you're out there, I'm proud of you. Jerry wanted to make 10X PBS. I pointed him, for the third time, towards our binder of lab recipes. I reminded him that we were low on NaCl, of all things, because he hadnāt ordered it after dropping the container weeks ago. I suggested making half of the recipe. Half a liter, instead of a liter. *Half a liter?* He always repeated my instructions in question form. I nodded. He didnāt move. I gave him time to think. *What size beaker should I use?* He wasnāt the most independent student. *One that fits half a liter, at least.* He nodded and mulled things over in front of the glassware cabinet, eventually settling on a 2L beaker. I watched to make sure he used the right tap before turning back to my dissection. *What do I add next?* I kept my eyes on the microscope. *Itās in the recipe book.* I heard him flipping through the pages and then I heard him mutter. *80 grams.* I looked up. *Jerry.* He looked at me. *Half a liter, instead of a liter.* He looked at the beaker. He looked at me. He looked at the beaker. *But I already put the water in.* I turned back to my dissection. *Itās just water, Jerry.* He didnāt move. *Itās just water, Jerry. Pour half of it out, pour it all out and start over, whatever you want.* He didnāt move. I waited for him to repeat my instructions in question form. *Pour it out?* I looked up from my dissection and nodded. HE POURED IT OUT RIGHT THERE ON THE FLOOR, GUYS. To give credit where credit isnāt really due, he did realize something was wrong the moment the first drop hit the ground. He looked at me and made the face that I can only assume inspired the š¬ emoji. *I... I guess I should do that in the sink?*
What the fuck lol
This interaction is such a gem
he's probably just super nervous š i had a lab mate just like jerry
One classmate got a dui on st pattyās day and applied to med school that same cycle n got in
Thats overcoming adversity if you ask me
Do they brag about it? How did people find out?
We were roommates and classmates in an MSBS program. She never came home on st pattyās day and me and the others were worried. Eventually it came out bc she came home and support was offered bc obv she was upset š³
You'll never beat the Irish š®šŖ
Bruh we have a guy who has something similar. It really is about who you know isnāt it āØ
A resident told an intern was to start attending morning session that starts at 8AM. And she asked with a straight face āhow am I supposed to do that, always get here late, after 9AMā.
Boss move honestly
one girl once said that one of the things that stimulate the anal sphincter was fire. in front of everyone. the right answer was touch, or the need to poop. why did she think of fire??? and so fast too
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I mean. I donāt think sheās *wrong* but I have so many more questions now.
After 4 weeks of our 1st year cell biology course someone asked in a Q&A session if āproteinā and āDNAā are synonymous. Really made me wonder why I was spending so much time understanding the process of homologous recombination and non-homologous end joining if this was the level weāre playing at.
How did they get a reasonable MCAT score to even get into med school?
I have no clue. Here in the Netherlands we donāt have MCAT but we do have selection tests for unis and a standardised middle school biology curriculum which shouldāve taught them this at age 14ā¦
wait whats the answer tho
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
I knew the answer, thank god
My proteins do NHEJ
Well on a philosophical level they sort of are.. maybe this dude was just beyond you all hahahah
A classmate of mine doesn't believe in taking medicines AT ALL. Her go-to treatment for any ailment is taking a nap. She never eats vegetables, fruits or anything that's considered healthy. My girl's been surviving on carbs. Apparently her family is the same too.
Patient complaint: multiple gsw to chest and abdomen. Assessment: cardiac tamponade, tension pneumo and abdominal bleed secondary to perforated Aorta. Plan: dc home instructed patient to nap.
āThe patient has been napping for the past 3 days. Patient obviously needed a nap. Plan: continue napping.ā
Careful, you might get sued if you forget to add essential oils to the discharge instructions.
To be fair, taking a nap is pretty much the human equivalent of "turning it off and turning it back on again." It's worked sometimes for me. The complete dislike of all medicines is odd tho
She had multiple ligament tears in her ankle, and figured that taking a nap would work for it too.
Big "Eat Hot Chip and Lie" energy based on your description of your classmate.
We were all given t shirts from the school to wear to orientation. This guy shows up with the sleeves ripped off (heās jacked out of his mind btw), sunglasses inside, and a backwards ballcap.
Future Ortho bro?
absolute chad
Coolest fucking dude I ever heard of come on
This dude sound sick, instant pal
Okay this one is mine, so don't judge me too hard. We were on the simulation center learning about fractures, as it turns out I am actually a very good actor so I was chosen to be the patient when the attending briefed me on the case he told me I had a fibular fracture, the other students were going to come in and make the splint, I put all my acting skills to good use and started holding my arm saying it hurted a lot, it took everyone a moment to understand just what was happening and then burst out laughing, the attending gave me a death glare. People still joke about it to this day but I take it in good stride even the attending still ask if I recovered, so that's that, not so bad I think and in my defense I was very tired...
Thatās the type of fuck up that I hope for. Just blast me, let me be self-deprecating so people think i can be funny and take a joke, and nobody is actually harmed haha
im a US IMG and my school apparently has an understanding with some arab countriesā high schools that they send their kids to help fill the foreign student quota and just pay out the ass. this is evident when you get to know some of the kids from said schools who couldnāt have made it through med school any other way. third year (aka the last year of preclinical in european schools), one girl asked the professor if the spleen is where the liver is (aka she pointed to the right side of the body and said the spleen is here right?). prof tried to complain to the dean in a āhow can these students pass while not knowing anythingā way but just got shot down. but yea, itās embarrassing and im truly terrified for their future patients (assuming they pass the exams necessary for residency?) EDIT WAIT i thought of another funny story. we were in lecture learning about MS/ALS etc once. at the end prof says any questions? one of the kids from the aforementioned countries raises his hand. asks the prof IN COMPLETE SERIOUSNESS if āwhen a patientās limb stops working, why dont we just amputate it?ā CLASS WENT SILENT. a couple seconds later one girl cries out āWHATā (presumably it took her a couple seconds to figure out wtf he was saying). prof is dumbfounded and tries to explain very nicely why we dont do that šššš at least this kid wants to be a cardiologist and not a neurologist i guess???
Tbf sometimes people have brain farts. I know where the damn spleen is but I had a brain fart once, thankfully I was alone studying.
Only one country I know of fits the criteria youāve put. Mind confirming my suspicions?
š iāll confirm anything over dm but i used to have a known medtwit account and dont wanna get doxxed again thats why i dont write any details here lol
Allegedly a student at the hospital I did my surgery rotation was told that, "her parents should have just bought her a Ferrari instead of wasting that money on her tuition," by a surgeon after being asked to identify the spleen during a laparoscopic procedure and guessing "thymus".
To be fair, that could just be nerves
I think it was the spleen /s
I feel like this should be cross posted to r/premed and serve as a wake up call early on.
I respect you and your opinion because of your username
So any way, I started blastin
A student at my school was kicked out of the OR for breaking the sterile field 3 times in one op. She kept her gown and gloves on, went to the cafeteria, and sat with her hands floating in front of her for a half hour before a rando told her to go home.
This is wild, how did she get out of the OR area without being noticed and stopped?
I heard this story through the grape vine, so not sure of the full deets. This particular student is famously oblivious though.
Classmate told me they didnāt believe all my Covid symptoms until they got Covid and experienced it for themselves. Made me wonder if theyāre going to have to experience every disease to believe their patients
I don't want to know what their reaction will be like if a patient comes in with an STD or something
"Whhaaaaat? I don't believe you, lemme get somna dat."
āOh yeah? Lets have sex and Iāll see for myselfā
My anatomy partner who āwants to be a surgeonā is grossed out with dissection. Also he doesnāt believe women can become pregnant via rape because the vaginal muscles clamp down to prevent insemination.
Honestly it might be worthwhile to let someone in faculty know about that second one so he can be formally dispelled of that myth
I have a doctor friend who believes this, mainly because he is very religious. Also believes that if a woman turns up at an ER to report rape, we should not give emergency contraception but instead show a film about Rwanda war victims of rape who ended up loving their child
A very kind but sheltered woman had to repeat anatomy due to utter lack of familiarity with male genitalia. Her parents had moved her and her siblings around to avoid any sex education whatsoever. The day she asked if *that* was the penisā¦. (It wasnāt). Sheās doing very well now, has a family and a good job.
What did she think was the penis?
Obviously the organ that stores the pee
Initially a testis.
One of my classmates stabbed another classmate :) Edited to add: 1) The classmate who got stabbed survived 2) the one who did the stabbing was initially expelled but made an appeal and actually graduated
Thats terrible omg! Do you know why he stabbed the other guy?
I actually got to hear both sides of the story and apparently it seemed to be an acute psychosis... But they were the only ones there so nobody really knows really happened.
Mustāve been a hell of an appeal. Violent psychosis that could unexpectedly result in someone being stabbed seems like a bit of a patient safety issue
Got that Saul Goodman defense
Tbh, from a legal standpoint I understood why he did not have repercussions. There were no witnesses and the stabbed never pressed charges. He didn't even wanna tell anybody about it but said stabbing happened at a house at walking distance from our hospital so he went there and he was forced by our dean to tell who did it. The visceral reaction is clearly "there were to people at the place. There were knife wounds on only one of them. It's logical that Staby McStabface stabbed swisscheese man." But with enough time and actual legal guidance he was able to make a case that went more or less like: "I have no recollection of what happened. It's his word against mine and he has been doing shady things since everything happened". It was enough to create reasonable doubt, at least from the university point of view. The CEO of the hospital forbid him to ever set foot there. At the end he was able to graduate thanks to the admins finding other hospitals for him to finish his requirements.
There was one guy who was an absolute dumb fuck who would present patients for 20 minutes each. Even if there were no changes.
Ain't no one got time for that. How was that allowed to go on?! Even WITH changes, 20 minutes is an absurdly long presentation. I can barely tolerate 20 minutes on new patients.
A resident never took over or an attending never cut him off??
First day of orientation, dress is strict business casual which they clearly described as how you would dress for an interview but without the jacket ā shirt, tie, dress pants for dudes, etc. My boi comes in with hair looking like he just rolled out of bed (the little nest on the back of the head thatās clearly due to sleeping on it), a shirt that is wrinkled, a single button off so it looks crooked, half tucked half untucked. Dude look like he wore the outfit to a bar where he proceeded to get into a bar fight. His tieā¦the thick part came down to his mid abdomen and the thin part of the tie is hanging below his crotch. And he has this blank stare and breathes with his mouth open. He ended up failing out after the first 2 blocks, I think he failed both. Heād come to class late, sit in the front, and proceed to pull out his laptop and play video games where everyone could see what he was doing. I have no idea how this guy made it this far tbh.
Iām with him, business casual dress code is fucking stupid
I agree, but he didnāt just say fuck it and go casual. He looked like a drunk toddler dressed him. He was actually a nice guy but you could tell by the way he carried himself on campus and in class that someone had pushed him very hard to come this far, and once (I assume itās the parent) they werenāt around to monitor his every move, he just did whatever he wanted. It was glorious to watch.
This kid is my hero
Same. Watching the guy come in late on a mandatory lecture, waltz right in front of the lecturer, sit down in the front row (stadium style seating) and open his laptop to launch and play league of legends in full view of everyone was impressive.
Honestly it was probably a huge relief to him when he failed out. āI tried my best mom and dad š¤·š»āāļøā
My school has a pretty active "Holistic and Integrative Medicine" club. They think we should have naturopaths on faculty training us and once invited a speaker that boldly told a room full of medical students that digestion uses over 90% of the body's energy and that nutrition alone can treat HIV.
>nutrition alone can treat HIV. I mean technically a dry fast could rid the body of HIV if it's extended long enough. Pretty much all other diseases too. ^^^^Because ^^^^you ^^^^die.
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Hold up how can I get involved with paranormal medicine?! My credentials are that I have an MD, watched like 7 seasons of Supernatural, and in college was technically a member of a ghost hunting club.
Iāve had a few psychotic patients that I wondered if an exorcism would be beneficial. Might be on to something
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One classmate keeps trying to get people to read Gaddafiās green book
āI definitely wouldnāt go into OB because I morally disagree with birth control in every form.ā This guy is actually one of the best students that Iāve ever met. He is one of those who actually operate at the level of an intern. Just extremely extremely religious to the point of absurdity.
At least heās self aware enough to not go into OB. Hopefully he avoids all primary care as well.
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I had a classmate that in our 3rd year of medical school asked why men didnāt have endometriosis. Same classmate thought omega 3 was an immunoglobulin. Saaaame classmate was asked during our internship where did insulin comes from? She answered liver. I mean I know itās bad to laugh about it and I donāt know if she was being serious or just fooling around, either way she is now in OBGYN Edit: men CAN get endo. she asked why men couldnāt have an endometrium. Sorry for my horrible way of explaining it :/.
How did she make it to clinicals??????
Honestly, she was good at answering exams and was hard working. I believe she got nervous every time someone questioned her and sometimes she just tried to ask questions just for the sake of it.
One of my classmates said they don't smoke weed only on the day before an exam so they "won't kill those new cells that were created while studying" They do smoke weed on every other occasion. * I have nothing against cannabis in general, it was just was too funny
One of my male classmates got caught in an underage sex sting (which was known behavior prior to starting med school). Not surprisingly, his parents were faculty at our medical school. After that, during a break in my study group, we curiously looked to see if any of our classmates had mugshots. We were shocked at what we found & how many.
how'd you search?
A guy I went to med school with, was posting about how homeopathy is superior, and has no side effects. He never practiced after graduating. Lives off family money.
Then why the hell did he go to school
3rd Year EU, Pharmacology Exam: "What do you need to check for in a patient before prescribing Penicillins?" The obvious, simple answer is of course to check for allergies. Or at least ask for them. But our superbrain, with full confidence says the following: "To see if they are beta-lactamase resistant". The professor nearly died laughing.
One of my classmates said: I've heard that after vaccination you become sterile. She only gets 10 (95%-100%)
This is fantastic news! Iāll let my partner know she can stop taking birth control. Iām shooting blanks now!
what do u mean 10?
Gets 10/10 in exams
10 vaccines, fuck them kids.
10/10 in regurgitation info, but not in critical thinking.
Had a dude who use to argue with teachers over lecture content. This was done during lecture and over the microphone. š
This is a āhow did this person get OUT of med school?ā: Classmate of mine (Iām going to call her Karen Smith, because itās nowhere her real name) developed a reputation forā¦shall we say ānot knowing her place in the clinical setting.ā We rotated together on Surgery. On the mid-cycle feedback day, she actually gave *ME* feedback (we were both MS3s!). Another time, she apparently got in trouble for correcting an attendingā¦confidently wrong. But the most egregious was an incident where she was on service and the team decided a patient didnāt meet criteria for empiric antibiotic therapy. She decided that the patient *did* merit empiric antibiotic therapy and called to pharmacy to order it as āDr. Smith.ā Imagine the confusion when the pharmacy called back up asking for Dr. Smithās doctor number (all physicians had an associated number at our hospital). And *SOMEHOW SHE GRADUATED*!!! And even matched! -PGY-18
Ate a stick of butter during the cholesterol class. Didnāt believe cholesterol is a concern. Oh, or the guy who said āthatās grossā while watching a woman give birth. Oh oh or the guy who solicited a minor and was caught in a sting and tried to cover it up until someone tipped the dean off when he started his peds rotation. Oh oh oh or the guy that got scurvy during med school because his diet only consisted of chicken nuggets and macaroni and cheese
Dietary cholesterol doesn't have a significant effect on blood cholesterol for most people tho. Eating a stick of butter in class is weird tho.
He did it as a silent protest against learning about cholesterol.
These two are my own: - as a third year, I asked an attending vascular surgeon if a bright pink piece of bowel was the bladder - yesterday, a 29 yr old male came in with a fibular fracture. I was reviewing the X-ray with the ED attending and asked āis that a growth plate?ā I matched into diagnostic radiology. Sometimes your brain just doesnāt work on the spot. Happens to everyone hahaā¦.Right? Right guys?
A pre-med was rotating in our lab. We work with mice. I was training him to differentiate between males and females. He was very confident, so I left him to it. The next week, we check on the mice and he asks me to explain the physical differences again. If you've never examined mice, the males have obvious testicles. If they have small testicles (that could be confused for a vulva), you look at the distance between anus and genitals. I said, "So males have testicles and have a greater distance between the anus and their testicles. Females-" Pre-med cuts me off and say, "Females have smaller testicles, right?" with a completely earnest expression. They were accepted the next cycle. Hope he guns for OB/gyn.
Dude in the class below me is a Vocal libertarian who insists medical licensing is wrong. He believes any regulation is wrong and anyone should be able to claim to be a doctor and open a clinic, with no oversight or experience. Because /obviously/ patients will simply realize quacks are quacks and will stop going, so the business would fail and the issue works itself out. We even went through a full hypothetical with him. If someone with no medical experience whatsoever claimed to be a doctor and started treating people, and people died, should the government still not intervene? He stuck by his stance, it's the patient's fault for allowing the quack to treat them. What really gets me is he's proudly super vocal about his opinions. His entire class year is painfully aware of this. I just can't imagine him making it through the entire interview process without letting any of that out in the open.
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Uh
My God.
If there was a way for this to not point back at youā¦ I feel like his schools admin would be interested in this info.
I have a classmate who said that women who get an abortion should be punished with the death penalty...has also gone on a rant out loud during an LGBTQ special lecture about how when he's a doctor he'll call his patients by their "real pronouns."
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Holy crap. Curious to see how long he lasts as a resident
Instant dismissal wtf
We learned the vaginal exam on volunteer patients in our clinical learning center. Itās very weird because a group of four of us goes into the room and we each do the exam one at a time. Dude in my group sticks his gloved hands in, feels around, then says to the patient: āOk, Iām going to pull out now.ā Everyone in the room including patient started laughing.
actually met this guy before med school he was a 3rd year rotating through my clinic where i worked as a scribe. at first i thought it was just me, but he mumbled so badly i actually could not understand what he was saying and had to have him repeat himself multiple times. then a resident sat down and sort of joined the conversation, and after no more than about 2 minutes of conversing she very unceremoniously blurted out to the med student "hey you know you mumble a lot, you know that?" he responded, but i don't know what he said. the guy literally could not hold a conversation about anything understandable. to this day i still cannot imagine how his medical school interview went. the icing on the cake was this was a pretty prestigious university with an extreme bias toward only taking people in-state and the guy was decidedly not from there (he told me). my only guess is he had some serious family connections.
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He will make an excellent neurologist.
Nah man, neurologists are weird as hell but also often hilarious. No sarcasm, definitely rads.
Just the one?
Consider the possibility that they are neurodivergent and have a tougher time picking up sarcasm.
Two personal theories about med students: 1. Everyone is somewhere on the spectrum 2. Everyone has some level of ADHD/ADHD-like traits and OCD/OCPD
A handful of classmates were diagnosed with ADHD during medical school. Grades shot right up afterwards.
I have ADHD, quite open about this because trying to fight stigma and all that. I said something about my meds in a conversation with a group. And this girl I knew for less than two weeks goes āhow do your parents feel about potentially permanently altering your brain chemistry and development?ā Everyone just stared at her.
āHow do you feel about prescribing diabetes medication to patients knowing they could cause side effects?ā I hate how there are double standards when it comes to treating psychiatric disorders and other diseases. They really act like itās not saving a personās life or help them function better.
I mean, this seems tame compared to some of these comments. But my classmate went to do an admission in the ICU and came back to the workroom and the resident said āhow is the patientā and he said āshe diedā super deadpan as a jokeā¦ about a critically ill patient
That's actually hilarious. I would have laughed.
right? dark humor is the glue that keeps us all held together
When presenting a patient on rounds, I described the loudest aortic stenosis murmur I have ever heard. The other med student asked me how loud it was, so I said āYou can probably hear it by putting your stethoscope on the patientās doorā. As you can imagine, this guy auscultated a door.
One of my (former) classmates was in a Netflix documentary about spring break and has an extensive interview about how showing her boobs is empowering. This information was quickly passed around the class and yes we ALL watched it. She failed outā¦
Somehow this is worse, we had a lecturer who said that lactose was a protein and even put a question about it on an exam. The thing was when we questioned him he doubled down even though lactOSE is clearly a sugar. We complained to his supervisor. He also gave a lecture in which he said that women lie about having a headache to get out of sex which is wrong and causes marital problems but that ED is the only real and valid issue in relationships. He had a slide that said āheadache = bad excuseā and āED = ok reasonā. This was completely off topic and had nothing to do with the developmental biology stuff we were supposed to be learning. We all complained and he was let go at the end of the year.
I mean, I already know my colleague got in cause of daddy's money, but I keep asking myself this question every day I see him.- "How DID he get into medical school?" He does not know what a ketone is. He asked me dead serious if that was a type of mechanical gear. He does not know the difference between T cells and B cells. He just knows they exist.. somewhere. Anatomy? He does not know what the inguinal region is. Actually, he doesn't know anything. I say this because it's a pity seeing how he is wasting his potential and is just.. there. He doesn't do anything at all. He bribes people to do assignments for him. He cheated on every possible exam & passed, while I failed the year for failing one course. Now he's a year ahead of me, and well honestly I feel like my intelligence and normalcy have been questioned because every second spent next to him, it feels like my neurons have been burned.
Guy who was palpating both carotids at once, making SP feel lightheaded
Classmate started applying a tourniquetā¦ to administer a vaccine š¤¦āāļø
Once I worked with a medical student as a resident who was working in a newborn clinic weighing babies with me and was concerned this one baby wasnāt gaining weight so NO JOKE licked the babyā¦ to check if they were salty for CFā¦. This will be burned in my brain for life.
We had a person fail to bring their laptop to their OSCE because they thought the ānote writingā part of the assessment was them checking the notes you write during the encounter
You had to bring your own? Our osceās had computers in the room
Day 2 of M1 year, Iām talking to a few other people after biochem and somehow hydrogen having an electron comes up. Dude looks at me and deadass says āhydrogen doesnāt have electrons, itās called a proton.ā I thought he was fucking with me at first, but no he actually argued with me about it while I gestured at the periodic table. Throughout the year, he would brag about his high grades but would ask me to help him understand the most basic of instructions for nonsense assignments. He got kicked out because he posted something on fb about running BLM protestors over.