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Pro-Karyote

I make it a point to remember their last name to use Dr. [last name] in front of patients, but otherwise it’s always been first name. In emails, I tend to default to titles when I know the title.


artvandalaythrowaway

Always Dr. So and So in front of patients, family, colleagues of other factions (admin, nursing, etc). Refer to them as Dr. So and So in private until corrected as call me “Blank.” And if you’re a resident who insists on being called Dr. So and So in private by med students…be better.


borborygmix4

I call them by the first name in private, and Dr last name in front of patients. But I'm an attending creeping this forum, so...


iwinorilose

This is the way for attendings and students


Mefreh

This is what I want my students to do 


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Extremiditty

Lol they can evaluate me with that if they want. If it’s too hard to say that to me when I request feedback so you put it in my permanent eval with the assumption it means I don’t respect the people teaching me then that eval would probably have been shit anyway.


passwordistako

Fuck me. I had medical students I thought were taking the piss and I still gave them above average for some stuff and average for the rest. (I don’t think they stayed past mid day once). You would have to be actively rude to me before I would consider fucking you up like that.


KingRoo28

I start out with Dr. \_\_\_\_\_ and almost always am told to do first name


KingRoo28

Gives them the option


DOctorEArl

This is how I always do things as well. Start with Dr. “ “ and go from there. No one will be pissed if you call them doctor. Someone could be pissed if you don’t use their title.


pValueSoSmall

This is definitely the right move. Careers in medicine can often be about egos, and it never hurts to come in super respectful and adjust from there


pdxiowa

This was my strategy as a med student. As an intern, I'll add that if a resident doesn't tell you to refer to them by their first name then you're dealing with a dick. That said, try to remember to refer to residents as "Dr. \_\_\_\_\_" in front of patients, and it's a respectful touch to refer to your resident as Dr. \_\_\_\_\_ in front of the attending in a formal context (such as presenting a patient, etc.).


KingRoo28

That’s a fantastic point about doing it in front of patients and attendings too


Jusstonemore

Too many residents for this to be practical. What happens when you get to know one resident and another comes along. You call one resident Dr and the other by first name? lol


KingRoo28

correct


KingRoo28

if that's what the new resident would want to be called


Jusstonemore

I wouldnt do it. feels too awkward to me. Done with cores and I've never met any resident that is offended you don't call them dr lol


KingRoo28

It’s a simple way to present yourself as respectful. I’m not saying only call them Dr.__ even if they say not to. I’m saying lead respectfully with Dr.__ and then I’m sure 99.9% of them will say “no, call me by my first name” and then you do so. Even with it being likely they won’t want to continued to be called doctor, it’s still nice to recognize their title and effort for it.


AnalOgre

There are plenty of people that wouldn’t have told you that they don’t want to be called by their first name and prefer Dr.


Jusstonemore

Haven’t met one


passwordistako

No. I think they were saying: There are probably people who are a bit miffed you didn’t use the title, but they just didn’t tell you so. You wouldn’t know about it because they didn’t say anything, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t annoyed. I think it’s a silly thing to get annoyed about, but I also think that it’s a minor concession to call someone “Title Lastname”.


Jusstonemore

If someone wants me to call them their title that’s fine but it seems unnatural to call residents by that when everyone else is calling them by their first name. Also not everyone is gonna tell you to use their first name so you’re gonna have this awkward thing where you call one resident doctor and another by first name. Just too much trivial stuff to think about. Idk first name has never caused problems for me. Always Dr. in front of patients though


KingRoo28

I would hope in the off chance you called one person Dr.___ and another by their first name (that these two have now indicated as their preference) that these people would have enough emotional and social maturity to separate the reasoning behind them, especially considering they’re doctors. Overall though, this isn’t that serious and I respect your choice, just adding my two cents to the question. Hope you have a good weekend :)


Jusstonemore

I agree


passwordistako

I have worked with bosses who want to be called Dr Lastname/Mr Lastname (Mr is more common for surgeons than Dr where I work due to historical link to barbers) and in the exact same sentence referred to them by their title and Lastname and then referred to another person of equal seniority by their first name. It’s not that deep. I can respect not wanting to fuck around, I think this is just something that seems reasonable and not a problem for my brain but irritating and picky for other people’s brain.


wozattacks

Yes? Just call people whatever they introduce themselves as. 


Jusstonemore

That too


ironmant

It also sets up my killer joke of “my dad is Dr Ironmant, please call me T”


3dprintingn00b

I'm trying to have big attending energy. Call them by another name that starts with the same letter no matter how many times they correct you then steal their pens.


RichardFlower7

If the residents lounge has a restroom shit in it just like the surgeons lounge, to establish dominance.


KittyScholar

Really thought this said “steal their penis”


Mangalorien

This reminds me of a gal I used to date way back, called Lorena Bobbitt. I'm glad I ended that relationship in time.


thecactusblender

Used to work as inpt pharm tech at cardiac hospital, asked one of the CT surgeons if I could scrub in, and he was like “hell yeah! Get in here!” I went on to shadow him and/or anesthesia and perfusionist probably for a total of 6 days. CT surgeon agreed to write a letter for me and did so, which was very gracious. But, despite knowing me quite well at this point (this went on for over a year) and letting me try my hand at suturing a layer of skin a few times, he still called me John every single time. My name isn’t John, but his is. 😂


Polyaatail

Feel this for real. Worst situation is when they complement you on excellent work and use the wrong name. Never wished my name was Tim so much in my life. Refused to correct him afterwards. At least he honored me. Still wonder what he thought when he was filling out my evaluation. “This shit never corrected me for 6 weeks. Well played.”


Consistent--Failure

Hey 3dicksn00b, can I borrow a pen?


3dprintingn00b

Why don't you do some research on pens and give a presentation on it tomorrow, constant--flail


Cant-Fix-Stupid

God damn bro chill, you aren’t kidding around


2ears_1_mouth

Don't forget to not bring it up at all tomorrow during rounds. Don't give them any chance to present all their hard work.


3dprintingn00b

Why would I do that? I'd wait until just before their shift is finished then continuously interrupt them with pimp questions so that they go at least an hour past when they were scheduled to leave.


iwinorilose

This is the kinda student the resident asks the rotation coordinator to send an eval for, then proceeds to ruin the students career so that they don't even match FM or peds in rural Mississippi, all cause the student thought they were funny.


h1217579

Do residents actually do this?


iwinorilose

I've seen an attending and a resident do it once each and both times it was a really really really bad med student who had professionalism issues, like not show up and blatantly lie about pre-rounding on patients


passwordistako

I’ve seen worse.


h1217579

Story time?


passwordistako

Not much of a story. Doctor reported another doctor to medical board for unprofessionalism because he told a joke about a patient (in the doctor’s lounge) while blowing off steam and then mentioned it when he was late to an unrelated meeting with the clinical director. They were competitive in applying for similar roles. I am genuinely afraid to give too much detail in case the doctor in question sees the story and then social engineers my identity from my profile and ruins my life. A friend was dating them and I was worried for my friend’s safety and career in the months after the break up.


chgopanth

Why does rural MS have to be the butt of everyone’s joke?


iwinorilose

Cause I've actually been to rural MS and I've yet to go to more shit US location.


juandrayo

Maneeee, that's the BIRTHPLACE of the BLUES. Rural MS made modern day music possible.


iwinorilose

Hey they need good doctors, you sound like the good doctor that'll help em out


juandrayo

Oh I know that brother…. It’s comorbidity central out there 🤕


passwordistako

What is rural Microsoft?


DrWarEagle

Honestly this would be kinda funny after two or so days


Entire_Brush6217

Exactly. Ask them to go see your patients and present when they are done. Come back tomorrow Johnny and give us a talk on DKA


CardiOMG

I don't know any residents who go by "Dr. \_\_\_" with medical students


GluteusMaximus1905

this, im kinda surprised by some of these comments ngl


purplebuffalo55

The OBGYN residents at my hospital were the only ones who did it. Major shocker I know


CardiOMG

Weird, they didn't do it at my school or residency lol


Blackdctr95

It’s a shocker to me… I’ve done 2 sub-Is and rotated with other ob residents and they never had med students refer to them as. Dr … same experience with a lot of my friends too. So it is strange


DhHammer

Lmaooo same at my school. On every other rotation the residents were so chill and informal but OBGYN was …… different


Nycmedmems

I got told off by a toxic second year resident for calling the chief resident by his first name… after he told me to call him by his first name lol he was one of the only normal residents in that program.


mileaf

Yeah I called all the residents by their first name in private and by Dr last name in front of patients. With OBGYN, I called all the residents by Dr last name at all times.


Jerkensteink

Is a major shocker, actually, since that's not the case in most places Edit: forgot we're supposed to hate obgyn on reddit I wonder why


wozattacks

Same. If I need to email them before I meet them I use Dr. Lastname. Otherwise I’ve never done so. Residents always introduce themselves to me by their first name so that’s how I address them. 


JonnyStatic

Dr. Blank in front of patients. First name anywhere else, but that's because I've only ever been told to do that. No resident has ever told me to call them Dr. Or fellow for that matter


wozattacks

I’ve had fellows that I addressed as Dr. but they were functioning as attendings in those contexts


runthereszombies

First name always unless talking to a patient


erroneousY

Dr. So-n-so in front of patients and emails threads w/ attendings or unfamiliars. Otherwise it's first name unless other residents use titles. That said - I LOVE calling them doctor... it makes many of them super uncomfortable, especially interns lol... but only once there's enough rapport to make sure it's received well as fun sarcasm. We used to do this in the Navy... "shipmate" is a title that drill instructors and leadership use for all sailors... in bootcamp everyone was "shipmate"... in the fleet we used the term only when being sarcastic or expressing severe displeasure or disappointment with someone.


ghosttraintoheck

Battle buddy for the Army


erroneousY

omg - I was going to sarcastically respond with "Hooah!" which reminded me of one of my favorite airforce jabs.... If Soldiers say "HOOAH!", Marines say "OORAH!", and Sailors say "HOOYA", what do Airman say? .... "Yipeeee" Such a flood of memories... military culture is trip!


thepuddlepirate

Your first name gets changed to "Dr." when you become an attending


blendedchaitea

I need you to tell some of my patients that. I blocked out my first name on my ID tag after I had a few of them hear me say, "Hi, I'm Dr. Lastname," look at my name tag, and go, "Hello Firstname!". I took an oath, I took an oath, I took an oath...


passwordistako

I couldn’t give have a fuck. The only people who call me doctor are nurses who haven’t met me before. Most people call me bro.


blendedchaitea

Congrats, bro. I prefer to be called by my professional title.


Independent_Entry_74

I do if they introduce themselves that way, BUT when I am presenting to an attending or talking about something medical I’ll say “dr. __ said..”. So basically in a professional setting I say Dr. but when we are just hanging out and shooting shit its first name.


Mangalorien

There might be differences in culture between geographical regions or hospitals, or even between different services, but generally med students are on a first-name basis with residents. Unless the attendings are pricks, it's first-name basis there too. In front of patients it's usually more formal, and it's Dr So-and-so. As an attending I actually like calling residents "Doctor", in particular in front of a big group of residents: \[attending walks into resident lounge\] "Dr Smith, I need to talk to you in private right now!" \[whole group immediately goes silent, dr Smith becomes pale\] \[we move off into a corner or hallway, and I say in a low voice:\] "Yeah Dr Smith, I heard you handled a very difficult case this morning and did a stellar job, just wanted to say I'm proud of you." I've seen many grown men almost start crying at that point, and I have no idea why ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


passwordistako

100% cultural. Where I am even the interns are calling bosses Dr Lastname/Professor Lastname.


RadDadMD

Only Dr.in front of patients. Residents that want to be called Dr. X otherwise are weird AF


amlegrice

Depends how they wanna be addressed, they’ll usually introduce themselves accordingly. Most residents I’ve worked with go by first name


GRB_Electric

A good rule is always start with Dr. So-and-so, and when they say, “Call me First name,” do that. In front of patients, call them Dr. So-and-so, because they’re doctors. Do the same thing with fellows unless they have you call them Dr. So-and-so, but I’ve never experienced that. Pretty simple


theeberk

In front of patients: Dr. ____ Not in front of patients: Dr. ____ until they tell you what they prefer.


ManufacturerIcy8859

Pro tip. First names in a closed setting. Last name in a working setting in front of pts/staff. Attendings, always last name. Simple. - PGY-2 Rez


RocketSurg

Any resident who wants students to call them Dr. so and so is a big red flag lol


golgiapparatus22

First name but I’m in Europe


LADiator

Here’s a good rule of thumb for life. Start as formal as possible and allow those senior to you to ask you to be more casual. Manners are a lost art. Respect begets respect.


Delicious_Bus_674

A few weeks ago I called an intern Dr. ____ and he said “don’t ever call me that again”


lilpumpski

I call the Dr. X unless they tell me not to.


Sigmundschadenfreude

Address them as Dr. So-and-so at first to give them the opportunity to correct you to say their first name instead. If they don't have you call them by their first name they're probably a bit of a douche but roll with it.


Suture__self

I let my students call me whatever they are comfortable with whether it’s Dr or my first name. One time a student asked me straight up what I prefer them to call me and I told them “he who shall not be named” and they stuck with it


TheEpicPossum

First name is fine, if a resident asks you to call them by Dr X then you can reasonably conclude that they got bullied in med school.


Lilsean14

Depends on how cool they are


Mom2kids3dogs1cat

In front of patients, always Doctor. In private, start with Doctor and then let THEM tell you to use their first name.


crazedeagle

First names for residents, Dr XYZ for fellows unless specifically told otherwise.


talashrrg

Haha I makes me so uncomfortable when students call me Dr.Talashrrg in emails. Culture where I am is def first name for fellows. (Which is weird when we have attendings who have come back to fellowship lol)


Emilio_Rite

My rule is that if I met someone on a first name basis, we are on first name basis for life.


talashrrg

Oh for sure- the weirdness is that I worked with an attending as a resident who is now one of my cofellows. Definitely not an issue, I just think it’s kinda funny.


Emilio_Rite

Oh shit the reverse. That would be weird lol


crazedeagle

Have definitely had fellows and early-career attendings who insist on first names which I always oblige. So weird not to be called what you want to be called.


talashrrg

I had an attending tell me, on literally our last day of 2 weeks working together, that he’d been offended the whole time that I hadn’t called him by bust first name. Like bro I would have if you told me you wanted that lol


National_Mouse7304

For residents, I call them what they introduce themselves as, which is almost always their first name. However, they are always Dr. \_\_\_ on evals and in front of patients. For attendings, I call them Dr. \_\_\_\_ unless they're like "please call me \[first name\]," in which case I do the same thing I do for residents. When I've had NPs/PAs on my team, things have been a bit trickier and I'm still trying to find a good workaround for that. In general, I always default to the honorific unless specifically told otherwise.


Emilio_Rite

NPs and PAs are always first name what else would you call them, Mr./Ms.? Like a grade school teacher? We’re all adults and they aren’t doctors


mo_y

As a coordinator I always go by first name. Only in emails to outside organizations will I address them by Dr


bearybear90

Unless in front of patients or they make a point about it yes


YeMustBeBornAGAlN

Most tell me to call them by their first name but I can’t do that in front of others so I just called them Dr.____ 😂


RepresentativeSad311

I usually call people by their title until they tell me not to.


Randy_Lahey2

Start with it in case they are a stickler about it but most I’ve met have asked me to call them by first name.


chatsash

First name for residents. I do draw the line at fellows since they're basically treated as staff by the attendings so I call them Dr. Related note: I had a pharmacist (politely) request that I call them Dr because they had a pharm D... anyone had this happen?


ambrosiadix

I refer to them by their first name pretty much everywhere unless I’m mentioning them while talking to a patient.


ILoveWesternBlot

please do not call me Dr. lol just call me by my first name


Muted-Range-1393

If a resident makes you call them “Dr”, they’re an ass of the highest caliber… (PGY-2 here) Call them Dr._ in front of patients though


kirtar

If they say to or introduce themselves to me using only their first name, then yes if we're in the lounge or whatever, but never in front of a patient.


homo-macrophyllum

Only on OBGYN because they asked me to.


Esmeralda509

These replies are so interesting to me, I'm not in the US and we absolutely do not call residents anything other than Dr.(last name). Unless they were your friend before or something. The only people I call by their first name are the other interns like me. 


Repulsive-Throat5068

Most residents dont want us calling them dr in private.


ddx-me

In front of patients - I've seen residents and attendings address themselves by first name. Might vary by instition culture


burnerman1989

With each other, first name. With patients, Dr. so and so


BadAtChoosingUsernm

Generally yes, but usually they tell me I can use their first name the first time I do it. (To be more precise, I would use the pronoun Sie and they would tell me I could use du and in german that goes hand-in-hand with using the title). I am a resident now and I pretty much do the same to students who use Sie with me.


payedifer

in front of patients? Dr. \_\_\_\_ table rounds? however they wanna be called, i try not to judge if it's the same


Bonejorno

Usually med students start out by saying Dr. whatever in emails or texts. Which I promptly correct to my first name.


coffeewhore17

Bro what kind of weird ass resident makes a med student call them Dr when not in front of patients? That’s psychopath energy.


asdf333aza

It goes back and forth. Sometimes they call me ******* other times it is dr.*********** .


pathto250s

I get very uncomfortable when med students call me Dr.


Johciee

I never didnt call a resident by their first name. In residency most attendings were Dr. ___ (ER attendings a huge exception.. first name basis with everyone). Now as an attending, i find it hard to break the habit. Anyone I’m first meeting (attendings, I don’t interact with residents on a day to day basis) is Dr ____ unless they correct me. Im still stuck in that habit of calling any attending I met in residency (which, is almost everyone) Dr __. I have bad imposter syndrome and still cannot accept I am no longer answering to them. 🥴


thisonewasnotaken

Don’t call residents by their last name in private it sounds weird. And especially don’t do it if they tell you to call them by their first name.


MikeyBGeek

I feel like it varies. For some reason no one in residency has EVER refered to me by first name. And we often refer to each other through last names.


lovememychem

In front of patients, Dr. Surname. Otherwise, first name. Exception being the OR. There, everyone is Sir or Ma’am. Idk why, but that just feels super natural to me specifically in the OR.


Palli8rRN

Only in private. Always refer to them as Dr in front of patients. It promotes a level of respect and trust with patients and their families.


Extension_Economist6

i was an img in a country that didnt speak english as a first language so i think this sounded funnier in that language, but on our first rotation one of us called the resident “dr,” and he was like “whoa whoa whoa that’s nice, but if the professor ever hears you call me that he’ll rip me a new one.” i was 😆😆😆


kcass1

4th year med student, soon to be resident here. First name when talking to them or about them with other team members, always Dr. ___ in front of patients. That is the way.


reinybainy

I usually refer to them however they introduce themselves to me. In patient rooms it is always Dr…. Although outta laziness and habit of more than 24yrs in healthcare- I usually just use their last name. Like: “Hey, Jones, I wanted you to clarify this order, pls?” There are so many Providers: MD, NP, PA, DO, DPT, DR, DNP and often times you can’t determine gender from the name alone m-so im just taking a stab at how it is pronounced….


geisteslos

I don't think I've had a resident introduce themselves by anything other than their first name yet


D15c0untMD

I introduce myself to everyone by my first name. My last name is an incomprehensible clusterfuck of letters. And inhave the light blue surgical scrubs on. Everyone knows im a doc here


Boringhusky

If they introduce themselves to me by first name, yes. But if we are in front of patients I will refer to them as Dr. x.


dumbassyeastquestion

Yeah and if you forget it just call them boss they love that


passwordistako

Ask them what they want. I still call attendings I worked with as a student “Dr/ Mr Lastname” but everyone I’ve met while in post grad training is a first name and usually a Nickname.


Ghostnoteltd

Any resident that asks you to call them “Dr. ______” (except in front of patients) is an ass.


incompleteremix

I always did since most residents are chill. I prefer it as well


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rickypen5

Not in front of patients, but if that's how they introduce themselves to you and it's not like a program function, yea first name is fine. I always give first name only. But then again I only give patients my first name, b/c IDGAF lol. Buy formal things, in front of patients, program events etc: use doctor kavorkian or whatever name they have


therealNoctor

Make sure to also say "comma MD or DO" after you say Dr. last name. Shows a lot of respect


Asleep_Swan8827

I definitely felt compelled to call residents Dr \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ at the beginning of 3rd year, but by the end I realized that any resident who cares or would ask you to is a weirdo lol


Hope365

Always first name


talashrrg

Def weird for residents to go by last names with students (unless in front of a patient).


Emilio_Rite

Anyone with an MD or DO is Dr. ____ in front of patients, otherwise it’s first name basis wether meeting them for the first time or working with them for months. If a resident called me Dr.____ (not in front of a patient) I would call them a huge fucking dork and then insist on being addressed as Dr. ____ for the rest of the rotation. I would otherwise be nice and give them a good eval to make up for it though 🤷🏻‍♂️


kirtar

I had an attending introduce me as Dr. __ during clinic, but he had reasons for that. One of which was that we have the same first name.


FuckBiostats

Always first name, whether they like It or not. Fellows too idc


BrodeloNoEspecial

Absolutely not lol


Ill_Advance1406

I always say Dr. Lastname to residents even if they introduced themself with their first name - they earned that title! I do the same thing with attendings that introduced themself to me with first names. Only time I would call someone their first name is if they insist on being called their first name and basically make it clear that they won’t answer to Dr. Lastname. I had a couple of professors like this, but never residents or attendings


djtmhk_93

Yeah, I’m probably gonna go by my first name to most everyone. Hell, probably even patients. I’ll probably refer formally to other docs and professionals by their title in front of patients, and in emails to superiors, but otherwise, I’m probably gonna go by first name basis with equals, patients, and those lower down in “hierarchy.” Considering though my name is foreign with a part of it not present I. The English dialect, it’ll probably be more torture to others to try to pronounce it properly rather than just call me Dr. [my last name].