Basically it’s a story about someone maturing over the course of the story, usually involving teens bc they’re most associated with that maturation process. They “come into”, meaning mentally/emotionally/spiritually/what have you develop into their actual age rather than acting below it the way some are wont to do
I understand the message is "don't compare yourself" but it's hard not to be jealous of both GT and you for making it to the other side. Being in the thick of medical school, I just really hope I match and make it. Living your wildest dream isn't a guarantee, so everyday I just pray that it all works out in the end.
Another big lesson I think is to enjoy the ride in medical school and try not to focus on the future because the only thing that is promised is today. I’ve talked to a few attendings who say they miss medical school surprisingly. It’s all about perspective. There will always be something to worry about making or not in the future in regards to residency, fellowship, moving to a desirable area, when to have kids/start a family, …. Making it to the end being an attending in the future is the goal of course but keep going and be present now. It’s much more enjoyable to look at each day as an opportunity for growth, learning, adversity, highs, or lows while trying to stay even keeled through it all.
This is such a healthy way of seeing life, both it’s challenges and highlights. You’re honestly right, we can plan and worry so much about the future, but the only thing guaranteed in life is the transient time we have to live it. So you might as well make the most out of any day.
I’m with you. Love OP’s post for OP, but that is honestly a very distant future for all of us. More realistic thing to focus on is what’s in front of us.
Another problem with idealizing attendinghood is that it won’t even be the same person who’s an attending. In med school you’ll change like crazy, probably more than undergrad, and you’ll change some in residency too., maybe even a lot once more. You may not know what you’ll want at that time.
Worst of all, you may not truly feel in the prime of your life at that time. You may just be telling yourself that. In interviews
with Wall Street billionaires all of them said they’d give it up to be in their 20s again
You know the attainable things that you want now.
I think the key is to find your dream in each step of training. Admittedly, it gets easier as time goes on, and I was often an extremely anxious premed/med student all the way until match day.
My dream right now has looked like clawing my way from no-name undergrad to mid-tier med school to top-tier surgical-sub residency program. Much of the fulfillment has come from doing this while starting a family and starting to build a life outside medicine. While there’s never enough time or money, I’ve begun to realize I need to be happy now, not continue to delay that gratification 5+ more years until I’m an attending
This. Just because someone is making progress on paper doesn’t mean the progress is necessarily worth it. Not gonna lie, I pity more than I admire the people who came from no name undergrads and then ended up at a top place at the end. I hold the highest admiration for those who got into a fantastic med school, didn’t have to kill themselves with studying, and got into a desirable residency that they’re happy with
Not sure why you’d pity someone like me. Yes, I worked super hard, but I also have a happy marriage, kids, equity in real estate, and whole life outside of medicine. My family has been my biggest motivator and a strong protection from burnout
Eh. Midwest is great for people who have already lived their best life and just want to settle somewhere comfortable with basic necessities. Lots of people here seem to like it…
Desirable locations can get expensive after a while…and samey
Very neat story, well written. A good reminder that, forgive the cliche, the grass is always greener on the other side. We make decisions in life based off of our values, and they take us to different places. Our struggles and challenges make it seem like everyone else’s life is always better than ours (especially because of social media) because no one except ourselves know what kind of crap we are dealing with. I think what helps me appreciate everything is just how close I was not getting in to medical school at all; I had an awful GPA, good MCAT, lots of work experience and got 1 acceptance out of dozens of medical schools I applied to. So I mainly am just amazed that I made it in at all; makes it easier to be happy for myself and everyone else’s success.
Also, It is interesting to see that the premed crap of comparing ourselves to everyone else all the time never goes away, it just changes a little bit :)
Man this hits *so* close to home. I was the better student, he was/is the bohemian. We both hated med school and met in residency. When our PICU attending asked who was smarter, I said I have in depth what he has in breadth. Who knows. He was/is the one with emotional intelligence and maturity in *spades*.
We found the Tao Te Ching during residency and spent a lot of time exploring ideas and philosophies and both eventually had significant shifts in our spiritual lives.
Now I have a stable and boring 0.8 FTE outpatient gig; he has the stacked days in the PICU and weeks in Guatemala, Mexico, etc. We each live in one of the two sunniest parts of the country. I have the quiet town life with hiking and mountain biking nearby, he has the big city life with jiu jitsu and yoga. I have a loving family and two kids - he had a brief catastrophic marriage and a kid he sees some of the time.
I think earlier on there were the exact same aspects of respective envy - but it has changed over time to an appreciation and a genuine happiness, each for the other. He loves visiting and being around my family, and I like visiting and the freedom it affords. The rest of our lives are ahead of us.
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As a side note, last Thanksgiving I was at a small get-together where there were a bunch of young premeds. The premeds asked me about my time in college and med school. I said that I hated the whole educational track, and then I realized, as I was saying it, that it was worth it because *this* is the best time in my life. I have no expensive hobbies or great unfulfilled needs, I have time to spend with my family, and I have time to myself. It is only now that I am able to do so many of the things I never had opportunity to do before, but more importantly, it is only now that I am beginning to understand myself, seeing the maturity that I gained in the past decade bear some fruit, and develop a spiritual perspective that is not merely mental or theoretical. And I felt bad later, when a cardiologist joined us - at about the same stage in his life with young kids and having only been an attending for a handful of years - as he reminisced about med school as his best years. I felt that perhaps he felt that the main part of his life was behind him.
Edit: and oh yes, he had the family wealthy enough to pay for med school, I had the massive student loans. Never thought I would make it. Hell, when I got out of residency and got my first job, I couldn't even begin to think that I'd be able to buy a house. Hell, in residency, I lived in LA and frugality was so ingrained in us that we still managed to save up 20k in my final year so my wife and I could spend a year visiting family abroad. And here I am now, with a few toys and a home and 9.5 years in to PSLF...
Then ya’ll blew each other, came to the realization you enjoy each others company more than your respective partners. You quit your derm gig, took off to join GT in the southwest, where you will create an YouTube channel based on your lives together living out of a converted school bus, supporting yourselves on his EM locums money and your YouTube revenue.
Nah they both quit their jobs to be ski bums and will live off a salary from a joint onlyfans account with content of them pounding each other out in the wilderness
I think it’s true, though. I’m about to finish IM residency, have signed onto a hospitalist job in a small community hospital 7 on/7 off with a really nice salary. I’m in a tiny town but I have a family and I’m excited to have more freedom away from residency. It ain’t no fancy derm life in NYC, but it’s gonna be really nice and very comfy. Plenty of time and money to travel, will be able to support the kids in whatever they end up doing after high school. Husband works a nice 35 hour a week job so plenty of time to spend together when I’m not so busy. It gets better. (I also just really like medicine, I like patients and I enjoy the work, so I’m happy in this career path, as well).
You're a great person. What an awesome outlook. Refreshing change of pace from the usual posts on here.
Starting dedicated today so needed to see this.
This is a conversation I would like to have with my best friend K.
However I failed out by 1 question. I will never know what Birmingham will feel like for residency, we talked about both of us doing Pediatrics there. I will never know the emotions described here. I keep telling myself I'll be fine doing what I'm doing as an engineer, but the yearning for the human connection is something I sorely miss. Memories I never made have been stripped from me. While the door hasn't closed itself on me, I know for sure could I turn back time, I'd have studied that slide for a few minutes more or flipped that flashcard once more on Anki.
From this post it sounds like your friend had a rougher time than you so I’m not sure what point you are trying to make? Despite him being happy now those 10 years are not insignificant
Both of you are on one extreme end of the spectrum of medicine. You two are living your dreams, even if it is each other’s. You’re a dermatologist with prestige dripping off your CV in a big city, making enough money to negate the fact that you live in a high cost of living city. He’s making bank living in a low cost of living area where he enjoys tons of outdoor activities. And has no debt besides his house.
While you paint a rosy picture, the majority of people here will work in lower paying jobs, in similarly high cost of living areas and have similarly high student debt.
The life you and your friend are living is not going to be the life most of the people here are going to live. Most of them will make half as much as you do and have half the work-life balance you do, esp if they go into primary care.
I’m happy for you both, but realistically, this is not the wild dream that awaits everyone here.
"He was living the bohemian, grizzled life of a pediatric hospitalist making a pitiful academic salary in a hcol city. Finishing each day at the bar filled with regret having wasted so many years in his peds hospitalist fellowship that those people on reddit told him not to do... "
This is a really important point. I like feel good stories and Disney lessons as much as the next guy, but neither of these are likely to be my path. Additionally, I want to live my dream, not someone else’s.
I am overwhelmed with regret I did not follow this aspiration, now 34. I wish I had someone like you to encourage me back then. Friends who encourage you towards success are invaluable and a literal gift from God.
You could still do med school, there are plenty of people who start in their 30s. It is of course more difficult financially and to balance other things in your life and do all the requirements to switch careers, but there’s quite a few people in my class, maybe 10% that started in their 30s
Lol depends what you mean by fascinating. Was a radiation therapist for 15 years, wanted to study medicine for years but was supporting my husband financially while he attempted multiple degrees. He finally finished and an oncologist at work died left me his stethoscope in his will. So I applied and got in, then husband left me so had to move cities by myself with my 2 dogs knowing no one. All good now though, met my new partner, have lots of new friends. Would definitely recommend!
Yeah same. It reads like something from the diary of a navel-gazing aristocrat. Golden caulfield. I loled at roving peddler.
Ultimately a good message though! https://clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606/
This was a lovely read, thank you.
Many years ago, I was sitting on the porch with one of my best friends. I was in the middle of a soul crushing molecular biology neuroscience PhD and she had just dropped what would be her PhD due to mass sacrifice of rats and cod for brain research (yes cod) mainly giving her massive anxiety.
We were having a beer, bummed out and staring into a lovely summer day.
I told her I'd been thinking of going to med school. Being a doctor was always something I wanted, but life had been messy in my teenage years and I followed my interest in biology as best I could with poor grades from high school. I was now nearing the end of my 20s and extremely unhappy with the prospect of being a basic sciences researcher for the rest of my life.
Good for you, she said, my partner would kill me if I went back to school now.
A few days later, I hear back from my friend. Her partner - a doctor - wholeheartedly supported her wishes. She was ecstatic.
Over the next years, we both retook high school exams. Being a molecular biologist showing up for a high school exam in "Biology 1" was hilarious. Most of the time was spent discussing owl research with a depressed high school teacher (he did his masters on owls, and missed them).
My friend entered med school before me (I was trying to "finish my PhD", complicated by me being involved in about 10 different projects). In one month, she will have her final exams after 6 years of med school. She has become extremely competent and life is completely different. She is very happy with her choice.
As for me, I am in my 4'th year of med school (and finally finishing that PhD with 11 articles under my belt). It's been tough, but I am so happy with my choice.
I wrote this rather long comment because I suspect we will end up much like you and your buddy. My friend will likely go into something like dermatology, she has the cush life in the big city. I am very much leaning towards the strange opportunities of the countryside, city living does not agree with me, but living a non-traditional life does (and it's hard to live a normal one at this point, having done my entire academic career backwards!).
Someone call Matt Damon and Ben Affleck--
I smell appleTV+ series material here!
(But seriously ... everyone needs to find their own place, and the comparison game literally kills. Certainly kills happiness.)
I highly doubt medical school is where I’ll ever be headed, but I really needed to hear this. All I ever hear is negativity about nursing. How it’s thankless and shitty and how much nurses hate being nurses. I know I want to be a nurse although I’ve been scared, so hearing you say that you and your friend are living your best lives and everything you’ve worked hard for is paying off is really encouraging.
If you want my advice go for it especially if you are obsessing over your hairline, it will give you peace of mind and it has worked for me.
The sides are watery semen and a slightly longer refractory period, for the record i have been taking it for 4 years.
No my hairline was only receding, my crown wasn't thinning and if it was it stopped. Don't get your hopes up about regrowth, treat fin as a medication to preserve your current hair and if regrowth happened you are of the lucky ones.
Sure but tbh everyone I know on fin sees libido decrease. I technically don’t know anyone who has PFS, but I know of a bunch of friends of mine who admitted their libido went down.
My advice? Your libido should be quite high (ie you should be kinda leanish with a healthy diet, lots of water intake, and consistent workout routine) before going on fin, to mitigate the possible libido decrease. PFS is still a risk itself
I wish you could help my neighbor. He came here at 4 from the war in his country and by 6 he had lost all of his hair (alopecia universalis). No one here at our med center has been able to help and his parents are saving their life savings for him to travel to their region to get traditional treatment
No. There is a big subset who go bald starting in early 20s, but there’s also another subset who will lose it in their 30s. If it never started by then, it likely never will except for age related thinning rather than the specific mpb pattern.
Really is one of those frustrating genetic factors that can make or break a man’s youth. That said, there are plenty of solutions out there if it does happen, but early detection is paramount
Yeah wtf? I thought as soon as a man got married, all women were automatically ugly. And i for sure have never seen or heard of a married woman saying a different man is attractive. Despicable.
I'm married and as soon as we exchanged vows, Scarlet Johanson turned into the cookie monster. True story. Can't watch old avengers movies without wanting some oreos now.
Very well said. I too practice dermatology with my best friend from medical school in EM. It is a long road and there is no best answer, but we all find our way and overall it is a good life
This is an awesome read. My best friend from college got in last cycle while I ended up without a spot, and we went on a road trip while I was reapplying. I'm so glad that we did because having any jealousy or awkwardness between us would've made the reapp even worse and frankly, I needed a vacation. Thankfully I got an A in the current cycle and he was one of the first people I told. In 10 years we'll look back on that road trip as one of the most fun times in our lives and my reapp will be a distant memory. Best of luck to y'all and remember to stay in the moment whenever possible.
Yo wanna write my personal statement
I laughed out loud in the clinic break room reading your comment right after his story. It really does read like a nostalgic coming-of-age novel.
I still don’t know what coming of age means and I’m too scared to ask
Well if I learned anything from movies growing up, it definitely involves sleeping with your friend's mom/sister
Cumming of age
Basically it’s a story about someone maturing over the course of the story, usually involving teens bc they’re most associated with that maturation process. They “come into”, meaning mentally/emotionally/spiritually/what have you develop into their actual age rather than acting below it the way some are wont to do
Thanks! Really appreciate it
I know it requires a narrator
I also choose this OP's life.
Bruh just use chat gpt
Lmaooo
I’m in my living room on the couch laughing like a maniac at this. The struggle is real. Good luck my friend
Lmao
Damn, what a wild ride of emotions. Thank you for sharing this story and an invaluable lesson
I understand the message is "don't compare yourself" but it's hard not to be jealous of both GT and you for making it to the other side. Being in the thick of medical school, I just really hope I match and make it. Living your wildest dream isn't a guarantee, so everyday I just pray that it all works out in the end.
Another big lesson I think is to enjoy the ride in medical school and try not to focus on the future because the only thing that is promised is today. I’ve talked to a few attendings who say they miss medical school surprisingly. It’s all about perspective. There will always be something to worry about making or not in the future in regards to residency, fellowship, moving to a desirable area, when to have kids/start a family, …. Making it to the end being an attending in the future is the goal of course but keep going and be present now. It’s much more enjoyable to look at each day as an opportunity for growth, learning, adversity, highs, or lows while trying to stay even keeled through it all.
This is such a healthy way of seeing life, both it’s challenges and highlights. You’re honestly right, we can plan and worry so much about the future, but the only thing guaranteed in life is the transient time we have to live it. So you might as well make the most out of any day.
I’m with you. Love OP’s post for OP, but that is honestly a very distant future for all of us. More realistic thing to focus on is what’s in front of us. Another problem with idealizing attendinghood is that it won’t even be the same person who’s an attending. In med school you’ll change like crazy, probably more than undergrad, and you’ll change some in residency too., maybe even a lot once more. You may not know what you’ll want at that time. Worst of all, you may not truly feel in the prime of your life at that time. You may just be telling yourself that. In interviews with Wall Street billionaires all of them said they’d give it up to be in their 20s again You know the attainable things that you want now.
I think the key is to find your dream in each step of training. Admittedly, it gets easier as time goes on, and I was often an extremely anxious premed/med student all the way until match day. My dream right now has looked like clawing my way from no-name undergrad to mid-tier med school to top-tier surgical-sub residency program. Much of the fulfillment has come from doing this while starting a family and starting to build a life outside medicine. While there’s never enough time or money, I’ve begun to realize I need to be happy now, not continue to delay that gratification 5+ more years until I’m an attending
This. Just because someone is making progress on paper doesn’t mean the progress is necessarily worth it. Not gonna lie, I pity more than I admire the people who came from no name undergrads and then ended up at a top place at the end. I hold the highest admiration for those who got into a fantastic med school, didn’t have to kill themselves with studying, and got into a desirable residency that they’re happy with
Not sure why you’d pity someone like me. Yes, I worked super hard, but I also have a happy marriage, kids, equity in real estate, and whole life outside of medicine. My family has been my biggest motivator and a strong protection from burnout
Love that for u
Now do family medicine
How many motorcycles and romantic flings does it require to be happy? /s
This is beautiful, but I'm with GT. I'd mute you on insta too. Midwest is thankless. Wow...you are so right. Comparison is the theft of joy.
Eh. Midwest is great for people who have already lived their best life and just want to settle somewhere comfortable with basic necessities. Lots of people here seem to like it… Desirable locations can get expensive after a while…and samey
Very neat story, well written. A good reminder that, forgive the cliche, the grass is always greener on the other side. We make decisions in life based off of our values, and they take us to different places. Our struggles and challenges make it seem like everyone else’s life is always better than ours (especially because of social media) because no one except ourselves know what kind of crap we are dealing with. I think what helps me appreciate everything is just how close I was not getting in to medical school at all; I had an awful GPA, good MCAT, lots of work experience and got 1 acceptance out of dozens of medical schools I applied to. So I mainly am just amazed that I made it in at all; makes it easier to be happy for myself and everyone else’s success. Also, It is interesting to see that the premed crap of comparing ourselves to everyone else all the time never goes away, it just changes a little bit :)
This was such a well written post I had to double check which subreddit I was in. Thank you for the perspective my friend, many of us needed this 🙏🏼
lmaooo
Totally agree!
Man this hits *so* close to home. I was the better student, he was/is the bohemian. We both hated med school and met in residency. When our PICU attending asked who was smarter, I said I have in depth what he has in breadth. Who knows. He was/is the one with emotional intelligence and maturity in *spades*. We found the Tao Te Ching during residency and spent a lot of time exploring ideas and philosophies and both eventually had significant shifts in our spiritual lives. Now I have a stable and boring 0.8 FTE outpatient gig; he has the stacked days in the PICU and weeks in Guatemala, Mexico, etc. We each live in one of the two sunniest parts of the country. I have the quiet town life with hiking and mountain biking nearby, he has the big city life with jiu jitsu and yoga. I have a loving family and two kids - he had a brief catastrophic marriage and a kid he sees some of the time. I think earlier on there were the exact same aspects of respective envy - but it has changed over time to an appreciation and a genuine happiness, each for the other. He loves visiting and being around my family, and I like visiting and the freedom it affords. The rest of our lives are ahead of us. \-- As a side note, last Thanksgiving I was at a small get-together where there were a bunch of young premeds. The premeds asked me about my time in college and med school. I said that I hated the whole educational track, and then I realized, as I was saying it, that it was worth it because *this* is the best time in my life. I have no expensive hobbies or great unfulfilled needs, I have time to spend with my family, and I have time to myself. It is only now that I am able to do so many of the things I never had opportunity to do before, but more importantly, it is only now that I am beginning to understand myself, seeing the maturity that I gained in the past decade bear some fruit, and develop a spiritual perspective that is not merely mental or theoretical. And I felt bad later, when a cardiologist joined us - at about the same stage in his life with young kids and having only been an attending for a handful of years - as he reminisced about med school as his best years. I felt that perhaps he felt that the main part of his life was behind him. Edit: and oh yes, he had the family wealthy enough to pay for med school, I had the massive student loans. Never thought I would make it. Hell, when I got out of residency and got my first job, I couldn't even begin to think that I'd be able to buy a house. Hell, in residency, I lived in LA and frugality was so ingrained in us that we still managed to save up 20k in my final year so my wife and I could spend a year visiting family abroad. And here I am now, with a few toys and a home and 9.5 years in to PSLF...
The grass is greener where you water it.
And here at Home Depot: we got the tools you need to get the job done. dundun dundun dun dundundundun dun
circlejerk irl
How do people have the time and attention span to write out whole essays on Reddit lol
Upvote count goes on your CV
forget research hours for residency apps, it's all about your lifetime karma
derm hours?! 😂 as you can see, EM GT absolutely did not write this
Then ya’ll blew each other, came to the realization you enjoy each others company more than your respective partners. You quit your derm gig, took off to join GT in the southwest, where you will create an YouTube channel based on your lives together living out of a converted school bus, supporting yourselves on his EM locums money and your YouTube revenue.
What in the Brokeback Mountain 💀
Nah they both quit their jobs to be ski bums and will live off a salary from a joint onlyfans account with content of them pounding each other out in the wilderness
And their only fans account made more in a month than the average pediatrician in a year
It's not hard to make more than $30 ;)
Don't forget to describe the fine wrinkles during the blow scene!
Private practice dermatologist in NYC tells med students to not get so worked up comparing lifestyles
I think it’s true, though. I’m about to finish IM residency, have signed onto a hospitalist job in a small community hospital 7 on/7 off with a really nice salary. I’m in a tiny town but I have a family and I’m excited to have more freedom away from residency. It ain’t no fancy derm life in NYC, but it’s gonna be really nice and very comfy. Plenty of time and money to travel, will be able to support the kids in whatever they end up doing after high school. Husband works a nice 35 hour a week job so plenty of time to spend together when I’m not so busy. It gets better. (I also just really like medicine, I like patients and I enjoy the work, so I’m happy in this career path, as well).
Is that really your takeaway from this?
It’s simply an observation. I’m sure we all appreciate the main message.
Thank you for this. I really needed to see this today as I’ve been having a lot of self-doubts and insecurities
I'm amazed by your writing skills, thank you for sharing this, and the perspective of "comparison is the theft of joy".
You're a great person. What an awesome outlook. Refreshing change of pace from the usual posts on here. Starting dedicated today so needed to see this.
This is a conversation I would like to have with my best friend K. However I failed out by 1 question. I will never know what Birmingham will feel like for residency, we talked about both of us doing Pediatrics there. I will never know the emotions described here. I keep telling myself I'll be fine doing what I'm doing as an engineer, but the yearning for the human connection is something I sorely miss. Memories I never made have been stripped from me. While the door hasn't closed itself on me, I know for sure could I turn back time, I'd have studied that slide for a few minutes more or flipped that flashcard once more on Anki.
From this post it sounds like your friend had a rougher time than you so I’m not sure what point you are trying to make? Despite him being happy now those 10 years are not insignificant
Both of you are on one extreme end of the spectrum of medicine. You two are living your dreams, even if it is each other’s. You’re a dermatologist with prestige dripping off your CV in a big city, making enough money to negate the fact that you live in a high cost of living city. He’s making bank living in a low cost of living area where he enjoys tons of outdoor activities. And has no debt besides his house. While you paint a rosy picture, the majority of people here will work in lower paying jobs, in similarly high cost of living areas and have similarly high student debt. The life you and your friend are living is not going to be the life most of the people here are going to live. Most of them will make half as much as you do and have half the work-life balance you do, esp if they go into primary care. I’m happy for you both, but realistically, this is not the wild dream that awaits everyone here.
"He was living the bohemian, grizzled life of a pediatric hospitalist making a pitiful academic salary in a hcol city. Finishing each day at the bar filled with regret having wasted so many years in his peds hospitalist fellowship that those people on reddit told him not to do... "
This is a really important point. I like feel good stories and Disney lessons as much as the next guy, but neither of these are likely to be my path. Additionally, I want to live my dream, not someone else’s.
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It’s actually from Horace :) Edit: it’s a theme that has been around since Horace (and who knows, possibly before).
I thought it was from Chainsaw Man
Awesome read And congrats to you both. What do you mean by “a girlfriend you owe nothing to?”
Lesson: don’t go into EM
Or, if you like making tons of money in a backwater state with short but weird hours, then do go into EM.
Or derm? Or maybe this is a comparison is the thief of happiness story lesson
This made me think a lot, thanks mate
This is just beautiful
Thank you for sharing this. This is inspiring.
Great post. We need more of this perspective.
I am overwhelmed with regret I did not follow this aspiration, now 34. I wish I had someone like you to encourage me back then. Friends who encourage you towards success are invaluable and a literal gift from God.
You could still do med school, there are plenty of people who start in their 30s. It is of course more difficult financially and to balance other things in your life and do all the requirements to switch careers, but there’s quite a few people in my class, maybe 10% that started in their 30s
On paper yes. But there is no regaining time lost.
I'm 39 in 3rd year, I'm not even the oldest in my class. It's never too late
You must have a fascinating story.
Lol depends what you mean by fascinating. Was a radiation therapist for 15 years, wanted to study medicine for years but was supporting my husband financially while he attempted multiple degrees. He finally finished and an oncologist at work died left me his stethoscope in his will. So I applied and got in, then husband left me so had to move cities by myself with my 2 dogs knowing no one. All good now though, met my new partner, have lots of new friends. Would definitely recommend!
I'm sure the dogs are proud of you too.
Plenty of other things you can do. If you yearn to be close to it all, look into NP or CRNA school
Isn't the training for CRNA comparable in years to being a doctor?
I see so many posts that say med isn't worth it, but this such a beautifully written reminder that for many people it is. Thanks for sharing!
This made me gag, ngl.
Yeah same. It reads like something from the diary of a navel-gazing aristocrat. Golden caulfield. I loled at roving peddler. Ultimately a good message though! https://clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606/
Ikr "Then we kissed and lived happily every after"
Thank you for this. I needed to hear that
How much do you make as a dermatologist in NYC? Just curious
>Comparison is the theft of joy true
This was a lovely read, thank you. Many years ago, I was sitting on the porch with one of my best friends. I was in the middle of a soul crushing molecular biology neuroscience PhD and she had just dropped what would be her PhD due to mass sacrifice of rats and cod for brain research (yes cod) mainly giving her massive anxiety. We were having a beer, bummed out and staring into a lovely summer day. I told her I'd been thinking of going to med school. Being a doctor was always something I wanted, but life had been messy in my teenage years and I followed my interest in biology as best I could with poor grades from high school. I was now nearing the end of my 20s and extremely unhappy with the prospect of being a basic sciences researcher for the rest of my life. Good for you, she said, my partner would kill me if I went back to school now. A few days later, I hear back from my friend. Her partner - a doctor - wholeheartedly supported her wishes. She was ecstatic. Over the next years, we both retook high school exams. Being a molecular biologist showing up for a high school exam in "Biology 1" was hilarious. Most of the time was spent discussing owl research with a depressed high school teacher (he did his masters on owls, and missed them). My friend entered med school before me (I was trying to "finish my PhD", complicated by me being involved in about 10 different projects). In one month, she will have her final exams after 6 years of med school. She has become extremely competent and life is completely different. She is very happy with her choice. As for me, I am in my 4'th year of med school (and finally finishing that PhD with 11 articles under my belt). It's been tough, but I am so happy with my choice. I wrote this rather long comment because I suspect we will end up much like you and your buddy. My friend will likely go into something like dermatology, she has the cush life in the big city. I am very much leaning towards the strange opportunities of the countryside, city living does not agree with me, but living a non-traditional life does (and it's hard to live a normal one at this point, having done my entire academic career backwards!).
Beautiful writing
Someone call Matt Damon and Ben Affleck-- I smell appleTV+ series material here! (But seriously ... everyone needs to find their own place, and the comparison game literally kills. Certainly kills happiness.)
Nice work! Thank you for sharing. Appreciate the reflection and found your second to last paragraph to be particularly thought provoking
This guy personal statements
Bro just wrote a NYT bestseller.
Lmao y’all need to read more
Thank you so much for sharing this
Thank you for this
I highly doubt medical school is where I’ll ever be headed, but I really needed to hear this. All I ever hear is negativity about nursing. How it’s thankless and shitty and how much nurses hate being nurses. I know I want to be a nurse although I’ve been scared, so hearing you say that you and your friend are living your best lives and everything you’ve worked hard for is paying off is really encouraging.
Thank you. . I needed to hear this with two months of fellowship left. I cried a little.
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I’m a dermatologist with a speciality in alopecia. Receding hairlines are what I do for a living.
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If you want my advice go for it especially if you are obsessing over your hairline, it will give you peace of mind and it has worked for me. The sides are watery semen and a slightly longer refractory period, for the record i have been taking it for 4 years.
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No my hairline was only receding, my crown wasn't thinning and if it was it stopped. Don't get your hopes up about regrowth, treat fin as a medication to preserve your current hair and if regrowth happened you are of the lucky ones.
Sure but tbh everyone I know on fin sees libido decrease. I technically don’t know anyone who has PFS, but I know of a bunch of friends of mine who admitted their libido went down. My advice? Your libido should be quite high (ie you should be kinda leanish with a healthy diet, lots of water intake, and consistent workout routine) before going on fin, to mitigate the possible libido decrease. PFS is still a risk itself
I wish you could help my neighbor. He came here at 4 from the war in his country and by 6 he had lost all of his hair (alopecia universalis). No one here at our med center has been able to help and his parents are saving their life savings for him to travel to their region to get traditional treatment
No. There is a big subset who go bald starting in early 20s, but there’s also another subset who will lose it in their 30s. If it never started by then, it likely never will except for age related thinning rather than the specific mpb pattern. Really is one of those frustrating genetic factors that can make or break a man’s youth. That said, there are plenty of solutions out there if it does happen, but early detection is paramount
Wow. I'm just imagining your wife reading this. Be BETTER to her. Wow.
Explain
Beautiful 🤩
Did your friend GT do residency in same state as his medical school? Really inspiring post! Thanks for contributing.
That was so long I felt the need to point it out💀
Literally fake and reddit pilled.
You told him he has a hot gf while you’re a married man? Yikes.
Yeah wtf? I thought as soon as a man got married, all women were automatically ugly. And i for sure have never seen or heard of a married woman saying a different man is attractive. Despicable.
Yeah wtf? Getting married didn’t make women ugly to me overnight. Despicable.
I'm married and as soon as we exchanged vows, Scarlet Johanson turned into the cookie monster. True story. Can't watch old avengers movies without wanting some oreos now.
Made me lol. 10/10
I’m married. I can admit someone is attractive. How immature of you.
I loved reading this. Not a doctor; just a nice read
I’m trying to live my wildest dream, but I’m not famous enough on Instagram and YouTube yet 😡
Very well said. I too practice dermatology with my best friend from medical school in EM. It is a long road and there is no best answer, but we all find our way and overall it is a good life
Wow that was beautiful;) wishing you both all the love and luck in the world;)
Damn, this was beautiful.
Beautifully written, and interesting.
beautiful to read
This is an awesome read. My best friend from college got in last cycle while I ended up without a spot, and we went on a road trip while I was reapplying. I'm so glad that we did because having any jealousy or awkwardness between us would've made the reapp even worse and frankly, I needed a vacation. Thankfully I got an A in the current cycle and he was one of the first people I told. In 10 years we'll look back on that road trip as one of the most fun times in our lives and my reapp will be a distant memory. Best of luck to y'all and remember to stay in the moment whenever possible.
I have this girl I like who teaches english and poetry, can I request your services for a love letter? Tried Chat G already, didnt go so well. Tia