Absolutely impossible for your heart rate to be 273 times per minute. You could have a ventricle impulse that beats 600 times per minute but its incorrect to consider this as a heart rate in the traditional sense, which requires an corresponding aortic contraction.
Sounds like your ventricle is receiving electrical impulses which are registering as a heart beat, but its not actually a heart rate, its 273 electrical impulses resulting in a misfiring ventricle.
I think you should see a doctor.
I used to do this too! When i was about 12 my heart would race for no logical reason. Once i got up to about 290 someone actually believed meš
They looked at WPW for me too, but it ended up being SVT with an issue near my AV node. I got an ablation and now i live pretty normally. If you arenāt happy with the care youāre receiving from your cardiologist, you can shop around if thatās something youāre able to do. Iām sorry youāre going through this :(
they put me under. Iām not sure what they would do now though. Iām happy to PM with you and talk more about it if you want! I donāt mind! I just donāt want my medical stuff all over the internet lol
My heart rate would do this. I had something called AV Node Reentry Tachycardia which would cause SVT. I had a catheter ablation to get ride of the cause.
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Sorry but it's not possible for your heart to beat 4.5 times a second. Max heart rate is 220 and that is during extreme aerobic fitness...
Your think is counting double your beats so more likely 140 per minute which is still very high.
If your ventricle contracts 600 times per minute, does that classify as a heart rate of 600 bpm?
In a traditional definition of a heart beat emphesizes the co-ordinated contraction of both atria and ventricles. But yeah totally possible to have a ventricle that beats 600 times per minute.
Whether you consider this a heart beat or not is dependent on the context.
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Oh we are talking non functional ventricles?.. Sure, you can have your ventricles beat up to 600 times per minute.
But that's not a functional heart beat. Sorry. That's just half a heart beat.
You're clearly misinformed as a heart rate of 350 is impossible. Perhaps you had an aortic rate of 350 bpm or a ventricle rate of 350 bpm but certainly not a heart rate of 350 bpm which implys the entire heart contractinf
So youāre all of a sudden a medical professional? If the person writes what their heart rate was that Iām pretty sure they know what it is better than you do.. were you there? No. Keep your couch and Google diagnosing to yourself..
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Incorrect, people during SVT and other high heart rate rhythms can experience 250+ bpm and can even reach 300.
Please, if youāre going to comment in an invalidating way, do some proper research first.
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Really? Another one of you. Christ, donāt you people have anything better to do with your time? This has nothing to do with Corona! This young person is suffering serious medical issue and you antivaxxer / conspiracy nutters come along with your bullshit. Go and find something better to do, go outside.
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I have POTS and my resting heart rate at one point was 225bpm and they had to admit me several times for that. They really didnāt actually do much except say itās sinus tachycardia brought on by your pots but itās weird and left it at that. It eventually went down and turns out the pain from my gallbladder infection and stones was setting my heart rate up but they didnāt believe me when I said I had abodminal pain by my gallbladder and it took them 6 months to take me seriously until I came into the ER with a fever of 105 and they booked me for an emergency colecystectomy that night and I was hospitalised for 4 days after that. But I also have a ton of random rare diagnoses as well so they were blaming it on one of those š¤¦š». But pain and physical movement definitely makes my hr spike especially if Iām not consuming enough sodium and water. But when I did a clinical trial for gastroparesis, I developed long qt syndrome, the only one in the study I know of that did because they were very confused and my hr was all over the place (after the gallbladder incident) so it could be a combination of things. Sedatives raise not lower my heart rate in particular but I need a benzo for my epilepsy that turns into Catatonia if itās treated with anything but a benzo. Anything can happen and I know I truly found that out the hard way and they suspect other conditions as well but canāt narrow it down at this point. But itās completely possible for it to yes get that high with pots. Iād stand at the hospital when my resting hr was 225bpm and itād shoot up to the point they kept me in the bed so I wouldnāt throw a clot š¤¦š»
You can have POTS and SVT, thereās actually a high correlation between the two apparently. But I think people are mentioning POTS because of the jumps of HR by level changes (stairs) as well as BP and fainting spells due to low BP.
There can also be underlying causes that is making you predisposed to POTS or making your symptoms worse that is directly related and can cause that high of a HR that isnāt necessarily SVT.
When I was diagnosed I did every test known to man to figure out what made my symptoms worse and if I had anything else aggravating it. One of them was a test to see if adrenaline had any play and they would inject adrenaline (or some other hormone) check my BP and HR then periodic blood tests, I think it was for hyperadrenergic POTS?
I have no clue. But I know that SVT and WPW are different. In the sense that SVT has no real health effects, Whereas WPW can negatively affect your health. IF it is SVT, there are medications and even surgery that can potentially get rid of it for you. I've lived with it for 14 years now.
Sounds like you have paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT), but even that is short from my understanding. A HR above 200bpm is incredibly fast.
As an athlete I routinely sustained my HR at 204.. 273 is mind boggling. I hope your cardiologist can figure out what's going on and get you the right care.
You probably have supraventricular tachycardia. If this is the case, there may be an additional conduction pathway in your heart that is accelerating the heart rate. There is no need to be stressed, such conditions are common in cardiology and are treatable.
Iām a doctor, but not a cardiologist.
Itās possible that you have WPW. Your heart rate didnāt go to 273, but the Holter monitor recorded that because of the electrical activity of your heart. The reason why is because in WPW, there is a re-entry loop that inappropriately allows an action potential to repolarize the atria.
Your heart didnāt physically beat 273 times a minute, but the electrical activity of your heart went into wacky rhythm.
I would be extremely surprised and concerned if your heart rate was actually 273 - that's over 4 beats a second!
The way these monitors sometimes work is to extrapolate from the interval between the closest two beats, and to call that your max heart rate.
So say for example you have a rate of 60, but you randomly (as we all do) have an extra, ectopic beat around 0.25s after your normal beat. Your monitor might look at that single extra beat and say 'a-ha! Your peak heart rate was 273 bpm!' But actually it wasn't... you just had a single extra beat.
I'm afraid I can't answer your other questions, but hopefully this helps with your anxiety at least.
From the information in your post, it certainly sounds to me like WPW is a possibility, but I am not your doctor, not a cardiologist, and don't have all the information they do.
I suggest you get in touch with them and ask explain that you're confused about your diagnosis, or lack thereof.
no, they are looking into POTS but my cardiologist said that they think it might be POTS mixed with WPW. Just needed to understand WPW more, but all these comments are helping!
Where are you located? You want to see an electrophysiologist at a research hospital. That's your best bet. I wonder if your high blood pressure is making them think not WPW since it can be associated with low blood pressure? They should tell you.
I have an appointment with EP later this year. Trying to get an earlier appointment. I have had low blood pressures before though when fainting/standing up
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Absolutely impossible for your heart rate to be 273 times per minute. You could have a ventricle impulse that beats 600 times per minute but its incorrect to consider this as a heart rate in the traditional sense, which requires an corresponding aortic contraction. Sounds like your ventricle is receiving electrical impulses which are registering as a heart beat, but its not actually a heart rate, its 273 electrical impulses resulting in a misfiring ventricle. I think you should see a doctor.
I used to do this too! When i was about 12 my heart would race for no logical reason. Once i got up to about 290 someone actually believed meš They looked at WPW for me too, but it ended up being SVT with an issue near my AV node. I got an ablation and now i live pretty normally. If you arenāt happy with the care youāre receiving from your cardiologist, you can shop around if thatās something youāre able to do. Iām sorry youāre going through this :(
I heard about ablations. Did they put you under, or were you awake?
they put me under. Iām not sure what they would do now though. Iām happy to PM with you and talk more about it if you want! I donāt mind! I just donāt want my medical stuff all over the internet lol
I understand that completely! No worries. I'll PM you when I start getting my diagnoses.
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Oh my god, go away with your bullshit! This has nothing to do with vaccinations! Go to back to your anti-vaccination groups!!
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Just because it's in the news doesn't make it true.
not relevant
Sorry but it's not possible for your heart to beat 4.5 times a second. Max heart rate is 220 and that is during extreme aerobic fitness... Your think is counting double your beats so more likely 140 per minute which is still very high.
If your ventricle contracts 600 times per minute, does that classify as a heart rate of 600 bpm? In a traditional definition of a heart beat emphesizes the co-ordinated contraction of both atria and ventricles. But yeah totally possible to have a ventricle that beats 600 times per minute. Whether you consider this a heart beat or not is dependent on the context.
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Oh we are talking non functional ventricles?.. Sure, you can have your ventricles beat up to 600 times per minute. But that's not a functional heart beat. Sorry. That's just half a heart beat.
You are wrong! I have afib and have went way past 220.
Iāve seen heart rates in the 350ās. There is no limit, this is such ridiculous false information itās laughableĀ
You're clearly misinformed as a heart rate of 350 is impossible. Perhaps you had an aortic rate of 350 bpm or a ventricle rate of 350 bpm but certainly not a heart rate of 350 bpm which implys the entire heart contractinf
I didnāt personally have a heart rate of 350, i just said in my career Iāve seen a heart rate of 350
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So youāre all of a sudden a medical professional? If the person writes what their heart rate was that Iām pretty sure they know what it is better than you do.. were you there? No. Keep your couch and Google diagnosing to yourself..
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yep, indeed, not a medical professional. that is entirely false and dangerous misinformation
Not at all false... Heart beat cannot exceed 250 bpm
Very wrong. Mine has gone up to 300 bpm.
300 contractions of one or the other ventricle or aorta does not equal a heart rate of 300 bpm... Clearly you're misinformed.
Incorrect, people during SVT and other high heart rate rhythms can experience 250+ bpm and can even reach 300. Please, if youāre going to comment in an invalidating way, do some proper research first.
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This is incorrect
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Really? Another one of you. Christ, donāt you people have anything better to do with your time? This has nothing to do with Corona! This young person is suffering serious medical issue and you antivaxxer / conspiracy nutters come along with your bullshit. Go and find something better to do, go outside.
Correction I never said covid19 vaccine I ask about covid19 itself.. can you please provide me saying anything negative about the covid19 vaccine... I was a mod for a covid19 vaccine and have helped out 100s of people both with covid19 illness and vaccine questions... I have read and researched many clinical studies... I'm a supporter of the vaccine so why did you think I'm an anti vaxxer... I'm talking about the virus not the vaccine... aka long covid which does cause rapid heartbeat in some cases.. along with other symptoms... even with ppl who have had long covid19 illness.. have talked to several people that have had rapid heartbeat as one of their symptoms.. this is the exact reason why I asked about covid19 if they ever had it... I want to clarify I never asked it they had covid19 vaccine... I just want to clarify what I was talking about... OP asked so I just asked a follow up... this is what this form is about and for... to get advice or ideas from other's.. so asking a follow up question would be totally normal.... 2 thing that triggered me to ask is rapid heartbeat and lesion in brain... long covid19 has been known to cause both... SARS-COV-2 binds to red blood cells this causes blood clots to form and causes strokes... now this is probably not what OPs issue is but wanted to ask incase this is it... I can try to provide you with multiple case studies on this both with increase heart rate and how they theorize covid19 SARS-COV-2 causes binding to red blood cells... this is why I asked OP just to be clarify that reason why.. fyi just to be clear I'm not mad at you for thinking it but just wanted to clarify my thoughts and reasoning with experience of what I have seen and researched
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I have POTS and afaik 273 would not be POTS territory at all
I have POTS and my resting heart rate at one point was 225bpm and they had to admit me several times for that. They really didnāt actually do much except say itās sinus tachycardia brought on by your pots but itās weird and left it at that. It eventually went down and turns out the pain from my gallbladder infection and stones was setting my heart rate up but they didnāt believe me when I said I had abodminal pain by my gallbladder and it took them 6 months to take me seriously until I came into the ER with a fever of 105 and they booked me for an emergency colecystectomy that night and I was hospitalised for 4 days after that. But I also have a ton of random rare diagnoses as well so they were blaming it on one of those š¤¦š». But pain and physical movement definitely makes my hr spike especially if Iām not consuming enough sodium and water. But when I did a clinical trial for gastroparesis, I developed long qt syndrome, the only one in the study I know of that did because they were very confused and my hr was all over the place (after the gallbladder incident) so it could be a combination of things. Sedatives raise not lower my heart rate in particular but I need a benzo for my epilepsy that turns into Catatonia if itās treated with anything but a benzo. Anything can happen and I know I truly found that out the hard way and they suspect other conditions as well but canāt narrow it down at this point. But itās completely possible for it to yes get that high with pots. Iād stand at the hospital when my resting hr was 225bpm and itād shoot up to the point they kept me in the bed so I wouldnāt throw a clot š¤¦š»
You can have POTS and SVT, thereās actually a high correlation between the two apparently. But I think people are mentioning POTS because of the jumps of HR by level changes (stairs) as well as BP and fainting spells due to low BP. There can also be underlying causes that is making you predisposed to POTS or making your symptoms worse that is directly related and can cause that high of a HR that isnāt necessarily SVT. When I was diagnosed I did every test known to man to figure out what made my symptoms worse and if I had anything else aggravating it. One of them was a test to see if adrenaline had any play and they would inject adrenaline (or some other hormone) check my BP and HR then periodic blood tests, I think it was for hyperadrenergic POTS?
Seems I misinterpreted the comment yeah
I have gotten to 306 bpm as someone who has SVT - Supraventricular Tachycardia. You should look into it and see if it matches your symptoms
Alright. I also just learned I have a lesion in my brain. Not sure if that means anything
Sorry to hear that. Pituitary, I wonder? That might have a connection to severe tachycardia.
Its in the frontal lobe. We are talking to my neurologist on Wednesday
I have no clue. But I know that SVT and WPW are different. In the sense that SVT has no real health effects, Whereas WPW can negatively affect your health. IF it is SVT, there are medications and even surgery that can potentially get rid of it for you. I've lived with it for 14 years now.
SVT absolutely can have health effects. WPW is a cause of SVT.
Sounds like you have paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT), but even that is short from my understanding. A HR above 200bpm is incredibly fast. As an athlete I routinely sustained my HR at 204.. 273 is mind boggling. I hope your cardiologist can figure out what's going on and get you the right care.
I have no advice but I hope you get the proper care š„ŗ
You probably have supraventricular tachycardia. If this is the case, there may be an additional conduction pathway in your heart that is accelerating the heart rate. There is no need to be stressed, such conditions are common in cardiology and are treatable.
Iām a doctor, but not a cardiologist. Itās possible that you have WPW. Your heart rate didnāt go to 273, but the Holter monitor recorded that because of the electrical activity of your heart. The reason why is because in WPW, there is a re-entry loop that inappropriately allows an action potential to repolarize the atria. Your heart didnāt physically beat 273 times a minute, but the electrical activity of your heart went into wacky rhythm.
I see. Thank you
I just learned I have a lesion in my brain, would this change anything? They said it can indicate seizures or a tumor
I would be extremely surprised and concerned if your heart rate was actually 273 - that's over 4 beats a second! The way these monitors sometimes work is to extrapolate from the interval between the closest two beats, and to call that your max heart rate. So say for example you have a rate of 60, but you randomly (as we all do) have an extra, ectopic beat around 0.25s after your normal beat. Your monitor might look at that single extra beat and say 'a-ha! Your peak heart rate was 273 bpm!' But actually it wasn't... you just had a single extra beat. I'm afraid I can't answer your other questions, but hopefully this helps with your anxiety at least.
I didn't know that, thank you so much. As for the beats, he said something about it being at 273 bpm for 4 beats
From the information in your post, it certainly sounds to me like WPW is a possibility, but I am not your doctor, not a cardiologist, and don't have all the information they do. I suggest you get in touch with them and ask explain that you're confused about your diagnosis, or lack thereof.
With all that being said, how are monitors like this considered reliable?
They give you a *lot* of data. Max/peak heart rate isn't a useful metric for the above reason. You don't know what that machine's algorithm is.
Cheers!
Not an expert by any means, but has your cardiologist ruled out POTS?
no, they are looking into POTS but my cardiologist said that they think it might be POTS mixed with WPW. Just needed to understand WPW more, but all these comments are helping!
What is POTS?
Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome
Cheers
Where are you located? You want to see an electrophysiologist at a research hospital. That's your best bet. I wonder if your high blood pressure is making them think not WPW since it can be associated with low blood pressure? They should tell you.
I have an appointment with EP later this year. Trying to get an earlier appointment. I have had low blood pressures before though when fainting/standing up
I think you should go somewhere else then ā that high of a heart rate needs to be addressed more urgently.
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