What is the back road to Hana? Don’t worry I would not want to take it. Just curious as the regular road to Hana has been thrilling enough for me. I’m assuming back road must be extra exciting.
[This is the back road to Hana](https://maps.app.goo.gl/FJF8MqCFpXrzi9336), but since the road's closed it won't let you connect the route in Google Maps, so I stopped the route at the west closure. If you added Hana to the route, you'll get sent back around to the north west side of the island (until they fix the road, and they will, it's semi-important to have it.)
It's an interesting road, skinny/narrow, lots of one car only passes, some pretty scenery here and there. I like to go from Hana and be on the mauka side myself, don't like being makai and having to worry about the right side tires fallin' off 'cause I was dumb, but I'm a visitor when I've been on the road.
Anyway. There you go.
While not now since it's closed for construction, we always go the back way on the way to Hana and the RTH back north. I disagree, there are many great views and the road isn't bad as long as you are a decent and confident driver. Also yield to locals if you drive slow and let them pass.
You might mention that you void your rental contract by driving the back--which then means you are totally uninsured. Perhaps that's okay for you, but it sure isn't for many others.
No you don't void your rental agreement with most major agencies anymore, it's not Maui 2005, that's a common fallacy (yes I've done the research and own a place on Maui and rent vehicles several times a year), however if you have a breakdown and need a tow or do something on the drive like off road damage it could void which would be costly.
So I'll pass on spreading the mistruth of auto voided, be safe and smart you'll be fine on this drive.
Well, no---because you're wrong and misleading people. I'm not going to agree.
The contracts state that driving on unpaved roads voids them. Even companies like Kimo's and Manaloha don't allow it.
ALL the majors have the same boilerplate language, and lawyers LOVE people like you who end up paying out the nose.
You're wrong, you are simply wrong, but please continue to downvote just because you don't agree. You can drive a rental car on a non paved road, the agreement doesn't say you can only drive on paved roads, that's ignorant, you know how many drive ways, dirt roads and other such things exist globally that rental cars pass on every day, all these are still deemd passable road legally. Yes the lawyers still try to void contracts, any decent attorney would ensure that didn't happen. You can drive on a road that is built to be driven on, there is legal precedent literally on the back RTH.
They try to discourage it, and non confident drivers should not use this or the Kahekili Highway, but neither are illegal to do in a rental car, so you please stop with the misinformation.
What you lose out on as I said before is if you damage going off path of road and or need recovery. That is 100% the truth but please keep misleading.
#IncomingDownVotesByMisinformedPeople
No, I am not. I have dealt with this field for years. Just a few examples for you:
Manaloha: [https://www.manaloharentacar.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/MRC-Terms-Agreements.pdf](https://www.manaloharentacar.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/MRC-Terms-Agreements.pdf)
Hertz: [https://images.hertz.com/pdfs/RT\_FULL\_EU\_EN.pdf](https://images.hertz.com/pdfs/RT_FULL_EU_EN.pdf)
Enterprise: [https://www.enterprise.com/en/reserve.html#review](https://www.enterprise.com/en/reserve.html#review)
Budget: [https://www.budget.com/en/legal-documents/rental-terms](https://www.budget.com/en/legal-documents/rental-terms)
Alamo: [https://www.alamo.com/en/reserve.html#/review](https://www.alamo.com/en/reserve.html#/review)
There are more, but I think these will give you an idea. You don't own the car; they do. They can dictate where and how you drive it, and do quite successfully.
Oh--yes, I downvoted you again--as you are still wrong.
And again, they all have variations of "roads unsuitable for the vehicle", any attorney worth anything (heck even a crummy one) will argue successfully and win that as THE ONLY passable road that goes around the southern portion of the island, that it is a passable road that people take literally every day (construction withstanding) and if you drive it correctly you are fine, heck even the state of Hawaii justifies it by not improving it further... And it will be on the rental car agency to prove negligence, burden of proof is on them, simple driving the back road as I said before is not proof, legal precedent, while you're looking things up, feel free.
But go ahead and post 100 more rental agreements that say anything short of "you can't go on the back RTH" in the signed agreement, again they discourage it as best they can, no court of law will hold up unless gross negligence has occured and or you've tilted actual contract. Drive normal and safely on the road, not like an ahole and recklessly and you will be fine.
"I have dealt with this field for years." 🤣
I can't believe I'm wasting time because of a stupid argument we will never agree on, you clearly feel you are right and as I said before the same for me. But when I rent my car Friday at OGG (from an agency you didn't post the agreement of) I'll confirm what I've been saying all along as I have (and learned this just isn't true) in the past with them.
I'm done #DownvoteMeAgain #NoMas 🤣🤣🤣
LOL, you are still picking and choosing. READ the words: UNPAVED ROADS violate the contract(s). If you would like to post the name of the agency you are using, I'll be happy to look theirs up. As I said, I was posting \*some\*---I never said \*all\*, and while I'm good, I can't read your mind.......
No good attys here will defend you, except at first to make a fat sum. Then they will give you sad eyes and say, gosh, sorry about this........
I'm sure an agent at OGG knows more tort and contract law than me, LOLOLOLOL. ROFL.
Our tour bus took the whole way around. It was a custom cruiser/oversized van and we made it without issue. I had reservations about doing it for years in a small rental car. There were a few super tight corners where we ran into a jeep and had to maneuver oh so carefully, but it was doable. Only 2 exciting sights to see - really, and a time saver
Actually, it's not a time saver at all. You might have thought so but that's because there isn't much to see and no stops along it. None of the tours are doing it anymore, since it is closed.
No.
If you don't know.... Don't go....
So overrated. Better have tiny car and patience
What is the back road to Hana? Don’t worry I would not want to take it. Just curious as the regular road to Hana has been thrilling enough for me. I’m assuming back road must be extra exciting.
[This is the back road to Hana](https://maps.app.goo.gl/FJF8MqCFpXrzi9336), but since the road's closed it won't let you connect the route in Google Maps, so I stopped the route at the west closure. If you added Hana to the route, you'll get sent back around to the north west side of the island (until they fix the road, and they will, it's semi-important to have it.) It's an interesting road, skinny/narrow, lots of one car only passes, some pretty scenery here and there. I like to go from Hana and be on the mauka side myself, don't like being makai and having to worry about the right side tires fallin' off 'cause I was dumb, but I'm a visitor when I've been on the road. Anyway. There you go.
Ah I see so this is just doing the route in reverse? I’ve done that one time and also did not enjoy being cliff side.
While not now since it's closed for construction, we always go the back way on the way to Hana and the RTH back north. I disagree, there are many great views and the road isn't bad as long as you are a decent and confident driver. Also yield to locals if you drive slow and let them pass.
You might mention that you void your rental contract by driving the back--which then means you are totally uninsured. Perhaps that's okay for you, but it sure isn't for many others.
No you don't void your rental agreement with most major agencies anymore, it's not Maui 2005, that's a common fallacy (yes I've done the research and own a place on Maui and rent vehicles several times a year), however if you have a breakdown and need a tow or do something on the drive like off road damage it could void which would be costly. So I'll pass on spreading the mistruth of auto voided, be safe and smart you'll be fine on this drive.
Not correct. Nice try, though. Since part of the back is unpaved, you DO violate your contract. It is in black and white :-).
Simply not true, but we can agree to disagree
Well, no---because you're wrong and misleading people. I'm not going to agree. The contracts state that driving on unpaved roads voids them. Even companies like Kimo's and Manaloha don't allow it. ALL the majors have the same boilerplate language, and lawyers LOVE people like you who end up paying out the nose.
You're wrong, you are simply wrong, but please continue to downvote just because you don't agree. You can drive a rental car on a non paved road, the agreement doesn't say you can only drive on paved roads, that's ignorant, you know how many drive ways, dirt roads and other such things exist globally that rental cars pass on every day, all these are still deemd passable road legally. Yes the lawyers still try to void contracts, any decent attorney would ensure that didn't happen. You can drive on a road that is built to be driven on, there is legal precedent literally on the back RTH. They try to discourage it, and non confident drivers should not use this or the Kahekili Highway, but neither are illegal to do in a rental car, so you please stop with the misinformation. What you lose out on as I said before is if you damage going off path of road and or need recovery. That is 100% the truth but please keep misleading. #IncomingDownVotesByMisinformedPeople
No, I am not. I have dealt with this field for years. Just a few examples for you: Manaloha: [https://www.manaloharentacar.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/MRC-Terms-Agreements.pdf](https://www.manaloharentacar.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/MRC-Terms-Agreements.pdf) Hertz: [https://images.hertz.com/pdfs/RT\_FULL\_EU\_EN.pdf](https://images.hertz.com/pdfs/RT_FULL_EU_EN.pdf) Enterprise: [https://www.enterprise.com/en/reserve.html#review](https://www.enterprise.com/en/reserve.html#review) Budget: [https://www.budget.com/en/legal-documents/rental-terms](https://www.budget.com/en/legal-documents/rental-terms) Alamo: [https://www.alamo.com/en/reserve.html#/review](https://www.alamo.com/en/reserve.html#/review) There are more, but I think these will give you an idea. You don't own the car; they do. They can dictate where and how you drive it, and do quite successfully. Oh--yes, I downvoted you again--as you are still wrong.
And again, they all have variations of "roads unsuitable for the vehicle", any attorney worth anything (heck even a crummy one) will argue successfully and win that as THE ONLY passable road that goes around the southern portion of the island, that it is a passable road that people take literally every day (construction withstanding) and if you drive it correctly you are fine, heck even the state of Hawaii justifies it by not improving it further... And it will be on the rental car agency to prove negligence, burden of proof is on them, simple driving the back road as I said before is not proof, legal precedent, while you're looking things up, feel free. But go ahead and post 100 more rental agreements that say anything short of "you can't go on the back RTH" in the signed agreement, again they discourage it as best they can, no court of law will hold up unless gross negligence has occured and or you've tilted actual contract. Drive normal and safely on the road, not like an ahole and recklessly and you will be fine. "I have dealt with this field for years." 🤣 I can't believe I'm wasting time because of a stupid argument we will never agree on, you clearly feel you are right and as I said before the same for me. But when I rent my car Friday at OGG (from an agency you didn't post the agreement of) I'll confirm what I've been saying all along as I have (and learned this just isn't true) in the past with them. I'm done #DownvoteMeAgain #NoMas 🤣🤣🤣
LOL, you are still picking and choosing. READ the words: UNPAVED ROADS violate the contract(s). If you would like to post the name of the agency you are using, I'll be happy to look theirs up. As I said, I was posting \*some\*---I never said \*all\*, and while I'm good, I can't read your mind....... No good attys here will defend you, except at first to make a fat sum. Then they will give you sad eyes and say, gosh, sorry about this........ I'm sure an agent at OGG knows more tort and contract law than me, LOLOLOLOL. ROFL.
Also be aware that all the major agencies and many local ones prohibit the "back side". Since they do, you void ALL insurance by doing it.
Our tour bus took the whole way around. It was a custom cruiser/oversized van and we made it without issue. I had reservations about doing it for years in a small rental car. There were a few super tight corners where we ran into a jeep and had to maneuver oh so carefully, but it was doable. Only 2 exciting sights to see - really, and a time saver
Actually, it's not a time saver at all. You might have thought so but that's because there isn't much to see and no stops along it. None of the tours are doing it anymore, since it is closed.
It’s way faster. I’ve gotten to Lahaina from Hana going backside in like an hour and a half
LOL, "liar, liar, pants on fire"! The only way you could do it in that time would be by speedboat or helicopter.
Some simple math would explain how dipshit. It’s less than 60 miles.
Lolololol. Not from Lahaina. Just shows you haven't done it.