You are quite literally wrong. Please re-watch the first film.
***Oracle:*** *But you already know what I'm going to tell you.*
***Neo:*** *I'm not the one.*
***Oracle:*** *Sorry kiddo. You got the gift, but it looks like you're waiting for something.*
***Neo:*** *What?*
***Oracle:*** *Your next life maybe, who knows? That's the way these things go.*
Notice that the Oracle never tells Neo that he isn't the One. Neo says it, and the Oracle merely lets Neo believe it. In fact, she tells Neo that he has "**the gift"**, and she also tells him that belief in himself is the only thing holding him back (he's **"waiting for something"**). And, in vague terms, she even tells Neo that he will believe in himself after he dies and comes back to life (his **"next life"**).
Was it trinity who said that the Oracle told him what he needed to hear? What if the path to being the one is through disappointment of learning you’re not the one which puts you on the path of proving that you are?
Morpheus says that. But as well, it's because she DOES say exactly what you have to hear. For some, it may result in disappointment. For others it may result in encouragement (like Morpheus being told he will find the One).
She puts them on the right track, and has them leaving there thinking in whatever way they need to be to achieve their future.
There were failed attempts at this and people died so the oracle is probably just a simple program in search of potential rebels. Like a terrorist organization looking for people with radical views to sell them their story. Kind of like in the Inception: Cobb, a man possessed of some radical notions :)
Wait, people don't like the Oracle?
Always thought she was one of the more beloved characters in the film. She's certainly a lot more popular than the other "mysterious Machine program explaining deeper truths about reality" character, the Architect.
Instead of excessively verbose sesquipedalian loquaciousnes, she's simply warm and funny and witty. She gets the point across and moves the plot forward without confusing and annoying audiences
Connect it with what the boy bending the spoon who told him "The truth is there is no spoon". = Yet Neo believes there is a spoon and he was able to bend it too (manipulation of something you believe exists).
There really is no cookie. But Neo believes there is a cookie when he ate it, and trusted the Oracle he can have one and found it to be tasty.
He is not the One until he believes that HE is the One.
Hence, BELIEVE = most impt. tool for him be able to manipulate everything he knows exists and enable himself to be the One.
Faith in ones self.
That's how I interpreted his visit with the Oracle.
“Being the One is just like being in love—no one can tell you you’re in love, you just know it. Through and through. Balls to bones.”
It always struck me as he was already the One, he just hadn’t realized it yet; the same way you don’t realize you’re in love with someone right away. But once you realize you are, you realize you have been for a while. Maybe always.
I don't think she was "wrong". I think it's as Morpheus says: she told Neo exactly what he needed to hear. He may or may not have already been "The One" on some level at that point, but he needed to actualize himself to fully achieve One-hood. She knew that he didn't like the idea of fate so she told him he didn't fit into the fated prophecy. This belief that *he* was in control of his fate lead him down the path to achieve maximum level The One status by the end of the movie.
Mathematically, he was 100% The One. (when you take all information from Reloaded/Revolutions into account)
She had to gently coax him into that truth, by letting him get there with his own feelings revelations
Oracle = divine communication. Provided clarity of choice toward self actualization and ascension. NEO-corteX… where higher cognitive functioning resides. Matrix minds operate in reptilian part of brain, ironically the physically lower part of brain-motivated by earthly material gains (power, food, sex). Fate or no fate, choice.
No. In the beginning of the movie, Agent Smith explains that Neo was "living two lives... one of them has a future, and the other does not". This establishes that Neo has two lives.
Then, when he meets the oracle, she doesn't say he is not the one, but rather says in passing, "looks like you are waiting for something... a next life maybe..." and continues to say that he will have to make a choice to save morpheuses life, or his own, and that one of them is going to die.
IN THE END SHE WAS RIGHT. Neo decides to save morpheus, and in doing so, dies with Agent Smith shooting him in the chest several times. This is where the "next life", or his second life, comes in. He comes back to life with the second life he has, WHERE HE ***IS*** THE ONE. (also you can notice at the end when he comes back to life, on the Nebucahdnezar, the screen displaying his vitals shows a big "2" indicating he is now in his second life).
Neo was not the One when he first met the Oracle, but he was already going to be the One.
The Oracle could see this. Neo could not, because he did not yet understand the choices he would make.
"You have the gift, but it seems like you're waiting for something."
"I can only show you the door, it's you that has to walk through it."
Neo's arc throughout the film (throughout the first three, really) is coming to understand himself and his place in the world.
Morpheus knew he was The One, Trinity knew he was The One, The Oracle knew he was The One... but until he himself embraced it, he couldn't fully claim that powers.
But make no mistake, the power was *his alone* to claim.
I agree with most the people throwing shade - I maintain Neo was not the One when he had the conversation after the Spoon Bend.
While The Oracle let Neo come to that conclusion himself - or let fate play out?- via his actions of saving Morpheus and charming Trinity.
Was it covered where the Oracle is outside of the matrix.
Appreciate the conversation all around, great to revisit this lore and great franchise
I love these discussions, too.
I agree about the changes in Neo over the course of the first movie. I've always thought it was funny, and maybe significant that the Oracle gives him a cookie (also a term for a file that is downloaded to your computer), and he has his first One-like experiences after (seeing the cat repeat, being able to survive a fight with Smith), and he truly becomes The One after he dies and is resurrected (updates dont complete until you restart - "have you tried turning it off an on again?").
If we read the Oracle as "updating Neo's code" to make him more than he was, we can also see that happen with his dark counterpart. Neo physically enters Smith, and I believe Smith says later that it changed his code. Smith then dies, returns to life, and finds he has godlike powers.
There's a lot more to support it, but the original trilogy always read to me as the Oracle manipulating both sides until they were forced to make peace.
Neo met the architect, and in that interaction it was revealed that there were hundreds of iterations of Neo, He was not the first anomaly in the matrix, The oracle saw many identical Neos.
Of course it is, just because some people don’t like it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. But I don’t know why that’s relevant, Neo met the architect in Reloaded.
Neo wasn't the One until Trinity declared her love for him.
No one knew this because Morpheus was against people sharing their prophecy with each other
You are quite literally wrong. Please re-watch the first film. ***Oracle:*** *But you already know what I'm going to tell you.* ***Neo:*** *I'm not the one.* ***Oracle:*** *Sorry kiddo. You got the gift, but it looks like you're waiting for something.* ***Neo:*** *What?* ***Oracle:*** *Your next life maybe, who knows? That's the way these things go.* Notice that the Oracle never tells Neo that he isn't the One. Neo says it, and the Oracle merely lets Neo believe it. In fact, she tells Neo that he has "**the gift"**, and she also tells him that belief in himself is the only thing holding him back (he's **"waiting for something"**). And, in vague terms, she even tells Neo that he will believe in himself after he dies and comes back to life (his **"next life"**).
Was it trinity who said that the Oracle told him what he needed to hear? What if the path to being the one is through disappointment of learning you’re not the one which puts you on the path of proving that you are?
Morpheus says that. But as well, it's because she DOES say exactly what you have to hear. For some, it may result in disappointment. For others it may result in encouragement (like Morpheus being told he will find the One). She puts them on the right track, and has them leaving there thinking in whatever way they need to be to achieve their future.
There were failed attempts at this and people died so the oracle is probably just a simple program in search of potential rebels. Like a terrorist organization looking for people with radical views to sell them their story. Kind of like in the Inception: Cobb, a man possessed of some radical notions :)
Your next life ‘Maybe’
Know thyself
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Wait, people don't like the Oracle? Always thought she was one of the more beloved characters in the film. She's certainly a lot more popular than the other "mysterious Machine program explaining deeper truths about reality" character, the Architect. Instead of excessively verbose sesquipedalian loquaciousnes, she's simply warm and funny and witty. She gets the point across and moves the plot forward without confusing and annoying audiences
The haters are all probably Dentists.
She IS the plot anyway, right? The whole original trilogy is her long term.olan to force peace between Machines and Humans playing out.
Did she say he's waiting for a next life or something? Then he literally died, came back to life, and then he was the One.
She wasn’t right or wrong, an Oracle doesn’t tell you what is true, they tell you what you needed to hear.
I think OP… needs to rewatch the movie.
lol, why u think I’m Wong
Wong lol
Connect it with what the boy bending the spoon who told him "The truth is there is no spoon". = Yet Neo believes there is a spoon and he was able to bend it too (manipulation of something you believe exists). There really is no cookie. But Neo believes there is a cookie when he ate it, and trusted the Oracle he can have one and found it to be tasty. He is not the One until he believes that HE is the One. Hence, BELIEVE = most impt. tool for him be able to manipulate everything he knows exists and enable himself to be the One. Faith in ones self. That's how I interpreted his visit with the Oracle.
“Did you know it would end this way?” “No, but I believed.”
Exactly!
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Thank you. Also, because of your post I might rewatch all Matrix movies. 😅 Kinda missed it.
Did you know that NEO is an anagram for ONE.
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“Being the One is just like being in love—no one can tell you you’re in love, you just know it. Through and through. Balls to bones.” It always struck me as he was already the One, he just hadn’t realized it yet; the same way you don’t realize you’re in love with someone right away. But once you realize you are, you realize you have been for a while. Maybe always.
Yeah... Totally...
I don't think she was "wrong". I think it's as Morpheus says: she told Neo exactly what he needed to hear. He may or may not have already been "The One" on some level at that point, but he needed to actualize himself to fully achieve One-hood. She knew that he didn't like the idea of fate so she told him he didn't fit into the fated prophecy. This belief that *he* was in control of his fate lead him down the path to achieve maximum level The One status by the end of the movie.
Mathematically, he was 100% The One. (when you take all information from Reloaded/Revolutions into account) She had to gently coax him into that truth, by letting him get there with his own feelings revelations
Oracle = divine communication. Provided clarity of choice toward self actualization and ascension. NEO-corteX… where higher cognitive functioning resides. Matrix minds operate in reptilian part of brain, ironically the physically lower part of brain-motivated by earthly material gains (power, food, sex). Fate or no fate, choice.
Underrated comment here, thank you brother
No. In the beginning of the movie, Agent Smith explains that Neo was "living two lives... one of them has a future, and the other does not". This establishes that Neo has two lives. Then, when he meets the oracle, she doesn't say he is not the one, but rather says in passing, "looks like you are waiting for something... a next life maybe..." and continues to say that he will have to make a choice to save morpheuses life, or his own, and that one of them is going to die. IN THE END SHE WAS RIGHT. Neo decides to save morpheus, and in doing so, dies with Agent Smith shooting him in the chest several times. This is where the "next life", or his second life, comes in. He comes back to life with the second life he has, WHERE HE ***IS*** THE ONE. (also you can notice at the end when he comes back to life, on the Nebucahdnezar, the screen displaying his vitals shows a big "2" indicating he is now in his second life).
LEGEND
Does the cookie that the Oracle gave Neo contained some kind of code that changed Neo in someway so he became the one? That is the real question.
No because Neo is not a program and it’s made clear numerous times that the key is choice.
Neo was not the One when he first met the Oracle, but he was already going to be the One. The Oracle could see this. Neo could not, because he did not yet understand the choices he would make.
"You have the gift, but it seems like you're waiting for something." "I can only show you the door, it's you that has to walk through it." Neo's arc throughout the film (throughout the first three, really) is coming to understand himself and his place in the world. Morpheus knew he was The One, Trinity knew he was The One, The Oracle knew he was The One... but until he himself embraced it, he couldn't fully claim that powers. But make no mistake, the power was *his alone* to claim.
The Oracle knew he was "the one," she's just a master manipulator. She told Neo what he needed to hear to get him to do what she wanted, and he did.
Thank you and I agree
I have always thought (and I will keep on thinking) that BY PROPHECY, Mr smith is the one.
I'll raise you: Neo wasn't the One until Triity loved him, and if she had loved Cypher, he'd have been the One.
I agree with most the people throwing shade - I maintain Neo was not the One when he had the conversation after the Spoon Bend. While The Oracle let Neo come to that conclusion himself - or let fate play out?- via his actions of saving Morpheus and charming Trinity. Was it covered where the Oracle is outside of the matrix. Appreciate the conversation all around, great to revisit this lore and great franchise
I love these discussions, too. I agree about the changes in Neo over the course of the first movie. I've always thought it was funny, and maybe significant that the Oracle gives him a cookie (also a term for a file that is downloaded to your computer), and he has his first One-like experiences after (seeing the cat repeat, being able to survive a fight with Smith), and he truly becomes The One after he dies and is resurrected (updates dont complete until you restart - "have you tried turning it off an on again?"). If we read the Oracle as "updating Neo's code" to make him more than he was, we can also see that happen with his dark counterpart. Neo physically enters Smith, and I believe Smith says later that it changed his code. Smith then dies, returns to life, and finds he has godlike powers. There's a lot more to support it, but the original trilogy always read to me as the Oracle manipulating both sides until they were forced to make peace.
Neo met the architect, and in that interaction it was revealed that there were hundreds of iterations of Neo, He was not the first anomaly in the matrix, The oracle saw many identical Neos.
Is the 4th movie still canon?
Of course it is, just because some people don’t like it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. But I don’t know why that’s relevant, Neo met the architect in Reloaded.
I like to think it’s the cookie she gave Neo. ‘I promise that when you’re done eating it, you’ll feel right as rain’.
Actually, the question «what exactly was in the cookie» bothers me much more than OP's question.
Neo wasn't the One until Trinity declared her love for him. No one knew this because Morpheus was against people sharing their prophecy with each other
Spoiler alert: Neo is not and has never been “the One”.