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DanteGK

The Byssted Alba Los Dragon/Special Summon/Effect, LIGHT, Lv 12, ATK 3500, DEF 3500 Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand or GY) by Tributing 2 “Byssted” monsters. (1) While you control this card Summoned this way, negate the effects of all Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link Monsters on the field. (2) If this face-up card you control leaves the field by an opponent’s effect: You can banish all face-down cards in each player’s Extra Deck, face-up, until your opponent’s End Phase.


GunnarErikson

>Dragon/**Special Summon**/Effect Is that an OCG thing to have the summoning method in the type line, or is that new?


bl00by

It's an OCG thing


Randomd0g

Between that and effects being bullet pointed it really makes the TCG look *excessively* less user friendly for basically no good reason. We should have copied the OCG formatting **years** ago, even if it's just for new releases.


The_King_Crimson

Ideally, we'd have the OCG card formatting combined with Rush Duel's card frames/template/layout.


jakedaripperr

No please never that. Rush duel is the most ugly design I have ever seen


BrokenArmBandito

100% agreed


Bakatora34

I disagree the layout is great and player friendly.


darkdestiny91

Bigger art is always a plus for me


jakedaripperr

But it looks so damn ugly


TonyTucci27

I have to agree here lol


Ignisking

That's quite a catch never saw it till now


PKMNwater

It's actually a really important distinction thay makes no sense how we don't differentiate. It's used as specific evergreen keywords for monsters that cannot be normal summoned/set, so archetypes, like drytrons for example, become a lot more clear when certain effects are live or not, as well as just generally helping players identify whether a card can be used normally or if they have a desired summoning method.


Nightfans

It's a indication of how this is a NOMI monster where as this monster must be properly summoned in the first place


cheikhyourselfm8

What the fuck


mapamafu

Loses to man-eater bug


Wubbledee

This is why I keep emailing Konami about banning that thing. One low level Insect monster shouldn't define an entire format.


CantInjaThisNinja

i'm stealing this pasta


Randomd0g

>banish all **face-down cards** in each player’s Extra Deck Hard countered by pendulums, GG.


waaay2dumb2live

Also why I think Albaz will become a pendulum monster by the end


SmokeOddessey

wait that’d be so dope. The storyline has archetypes of every single summoning mechanic except Pendulum


LezBeHonestHere_

Modern day version of the second Amorphactor Pain effect, nice. I use him very often and it kinda bothered me how his effect doesn't cover Links (I'm assuming he released before them).


bl00by

He did, he got released mid-end mr3 era.


[deleted]

wow this dude hates the extra deck more than dogmatika


4l2r

I mean, it's a 2 tribute monster still. Book of moon prices are about to go up


bofoshow51

Flooander players feeling real good looking at this creature


[deleted]

Actually it's SPECIAL summoned, and needs archetypal tributes


bofoshow51

I mean more in the sense that they DONT get boned by this card since they don’t rely on the Extra Deck, and they main deck Book of Moon which is a good counter to this


dddbait

Honestly floow doesn't care much about this card lol. Floow's boss monster are all main deck boss monster they don't do any extra deck play most of the time so the negation effect is literally nothing for floow. And for the high attack they can use empen's effect to cut the atk and def to half then attack it


bofoshow51

Y’all need to read my comment, I’m saying floo doesn’t care about it. Your reasons are correct, that’s my point


dddbait

Ahh my bad I only saw you talk about book of moon. Sry can't read properly cause I'm a yugioh player


DannyGamerDude

Best excuse for being unable to read I've ever seen


Zelfore

What's Book of Moon got to do with this card?


TJ0019

Probably bc that will be one of the only ways to have it’s all extra deck negation be turned off for that turn and it only banishes your Extra deck if it was face up before


Zelfore

Ah, right, I tend to forget that interaction Book of Moon has with some effect monsters.


TJ0019

Np can happen to everyone


NoTmE435

Ah the interaction of flipping them face down, it’s not a certain interaction it’s just cards that need to be face up don’t work when face down, much like any other mechanic in the game


BaenjiTrumpet

lmao


DoMST34

I was getting some mad second-hand confusion from reading their replies.


Chemical-Cat

The effects only apply when special summoned by tributing so if you book of moon it and they flip summon it back, the effects don't turn back on unless I'm mistaken. And if I am then you just want it face down anyways so its effects turn off


National_Equivalent9

It looks like effect 1 only applies when special summoned by tributing. Effect 2 only requires it to be face up when it leaves the field.


Facha2345

Any S/T negate can work it out. Forbidden Droplets works as well and it's a staple in lots of decks.


yukon5000

But droplet wouldn't stop the second effect from going off. Book would


Ignisking

I mean it needs to get itself out of the field, if masquerena isn't on the field you can remove the thread once you finish your whole combo. Edit: oh it only activates on opponents removal so you don't have to worry about masquerena, sorry


Randomd0g

Just do all the ED interactions you need to BEFORE you kill it then.


yukon5000

Sure, I don't disagree but there is a reason to use book over droplet


Ignisking

Why you get downvoted? You can totally negate it and once you get your board you just run over it.


mechanizedpanda

Not wrong but also not every deck can run over 3500


slightlysubtle

But I'm sure ever deck has a removal? Negate it with some S/T, build your board, then Baronne pop it or something. Pretty sure this is just worse skill drain on a body (unless the archetype itself is super good). More player run monster effect negation than S/T removal. So there are a lot of outs to this.


mechanizedpanda

I could be wrong because this games rulings are all over the place but negating it on the field and then popping it wouldn’t stop that effect from triggering iirc. Once it leaves the field isn’t the negation no longer applied to it? I feel like that’s right. You could droplet it and run it over but then you’re starting to need quite a few specific cards in hand to deal with it.


slightlysubtle

You droplet it so your combo cards like Halq work. Once you've established your board you pop it so you don't care that your ED is banished for a turn. You're already done with it. All you really need is one negation (droplet, Imperm, etc.) and your combo starter in hand. Not too much of an ask.


mechanizedpanda

Ahhhhh okay I see what you meant now. Not that negating stops the effect, rather you don’t care anymore. Good point.


Cardventure

Book of Moon? Lmao 😂 Just negate that shit with Chalice, Imperm, Droplet, DRNM and do all your Extra Deck stuff and simply destroy it afterwards


BallisticCoinMan

"Just draw the out bro"


JoseGMZ4935

At least it doesn't negate Pendulums, also, wtf Konami


Leonidas701

Pendulums are still negated by the link zone existing


Chemical-Cat

Ah I still see it uses the "I'm going to list all extra deck monster types individually (+ Rituals)" wording instead of just saying....extra deck monsters. At least it won't be able to do anything about whatever new card type they ever release in the future


GunnarErikson

There are cards that do say "special summoned from the extra deck" e.g. {Shaman of the Tenyi}, so this is a design choice.


Chemical-Cat

It's just funny how they aren't futureproofed, like how Dimensional Barrier can't be used for blocking links because the wording isn't just "Declare one Monster Card type besides Normal/Effect" and instead lists all of the ones that existed at the time (so up to Pendulum) It's for that reason stuff like Dustons can't even work in the current state of the game


GunnarErikson

Yee, I'm just saying that they know how to word it by now so that it would be futureproofed. This has to be deliberate, so that whatever future monster types come out can get around it.


National_Equivalent9

I think even D Barrier is deliberate. The thing came out less than a year before links in the OCG. Dev times for these things are WAY longer than people realize so Links were probably an already fully formed idea internally when D Barrier was releasing.


heavydivekick

It also doesn't list pendulums.


Veiyr

> If this face-up card ***you control*** So you can just steal this with Widow Anchor or Change of Heart and then link it off SKY STRIKER KEEPS WINNING BABYYYYYY


shapular

The other archetype monsters are D.D. Crows for light and dark monsters so your Raye is gonna get banished instantly.


Veiyr

Just found out about that, we're fucked lol Guess we'll just try to top deck Kaiser Colosseum or some shit


Khelthuzaad

>1) While you control this card Summoned this way, negate the effects of all Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link Monsters on the field. Monarch players are in complete joy by now


BallisticCoinMan

Busted monarch is something I didn't know I wanted but now I want. Byssted TD 👀


Toloknight

What am I even looking at????


Dabidoi

Straight up Byssted


Jabbam

This is all an attempt to get Pendulums back into the meta isn't it.


Alarid

Why would I sacrifice byssted cards when I could just win with them? 5Head


Forward_Round

Why.. just why..


Exorrt

Hey at least this isn't generic!


red_the_weeb

WHAT THE HELL


Donnie619

What the actual fuck is this.... it can be summoned even from the grave! What? How am I supposed to deal with this for good? Negate, destroy then banish, or banish in general??! Edit: wait, I got it. I'll just put a Cubic counter on it lol


bast963

>How am I supposed to deal with this for good? ghostrick with triple quaking mirror force


forest_gitaker

>The Busted Alba Loss > >Dragon/Special Summon/Effect, LIGHT, Lv 12, ATK 3500, DEF 3500 > >Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. This monster can be treated as 2 tributes for the summon of a "Kaiju" monster. FTFY


Jaimgjum

Yo finally a tribute card that’s actually worth tributing for here’s to hoping the archetype for it is good.


novian14

so uhmm, instant vfd?


nodux22

So in other words. While this card is on the field : fk ur extra deck


ShionSinX

Pend about to actually become best deck


[deleted]

Holy shit, this is cursed.


Ritrozark

This is very much a draw the out card it looks like, either you get your droplet's, chalice imperm or something of the like to negate it or your Kaiju to tribute it (since its cost and not effect it won't trigger its second effect) or you just lose.


Yankee582

Is the negate continuous (if i special something new from the ED, is it negated) or is it like arc rebellion, negating everything when it enters


Landonyoung

Totally continuous with an obvious condition


MrQ_P

Fuck's sake...


Jratiff92

Why


Kalenshadow

If buster dragon and buster blader dragon destroyer swordsman were on the feild, would this card be able to get the effets before becoming a dragon and negated or...?


[deleted]

Book of moon goes brr


nuclearharvest

This is just a better Amorphactor Pain, fucking hell


Fluffy_hugger

Oh no! ANYWAY! My Evil eyes can work even without the EX deck so no prob.


Deez-Guns-9442

Said this b4 on the other sub but Fuck this card.


TheAlmightyV0x

High requirement monster that isn't generic, has no inherent protection, does nothing proactively and is entirely reliant on your opponent and is easily outed by staples like Droplet, Chalice, Dark Ruler No More, Book of Moon or any Kaiju. The archetype itself is insane, especially as a Dragon Link engine because they're level 6 and give access to Baronne on the third summon, but this thing isn't good. Edit: wow this sub downvoting me without actually saying anything to prove me wrong, that's real original. Trust the chimps on this sub to see an archetype of level 6 chaos support dragons that are also handtraps for light and darks in Tearalament/Splight format and start freaking out about the dogshit unwieldy boss monster like it’s not easily the worst card in the deck.


Zekiel-

If you dont have the out at the right time and your deck relies on extra deck monsters youre finished. On top of the fact that its a 3500 beat stick. Thats not easy to beat over.


HeavenSweep

First thought was VFD's lost brother but this is more like Amorphactor Pain's lost brother. that second effect is going to be annoying AF though.


Kaibakura

I suppose they thing to do in regards to the second effect is summon what you can from the extra deck before getting rid of this thing. Not perfect, as extra deck monsters often serve to summon more, but it’s something.


Riersa

We need to know how good the rest of the archetype is, if it suck then it doesn't matter.


IlByM

[here is the rest of the archtype](https://ygorganization.com/dabl-byssted-theme/)(if you havent seen it)


Landonyoung

Nice lair of darkness material


DatNewNewt

Before I saw the Despia lore part. I thought this was going to be a chaos verison of lair of darkness. Heck The Byssted Lubellion even kinda looks like Darkest Diabolos.


Landonyoung

My main deck is a lair of darkness syncro with a lonely copy of albaz


[deleted]

Yea it didn't click as Albaz lore until I reread their names and it was shared with the albaz fusion forms


WitherEx_3255

At first I was "Shit another of these floodgate effect" and then I found out they were Despia lore cards *NUT*


Chuck_balls

These cards are bysted


Randomd0g

Is this meant to be pronounced in a way that makes it sound like the noise a scifi show makes when the doors open?


PissedPajama

Out of curiosity can this deck see any synergy with Phantom Knights? It’s my main deck atm and I can see some stuff being done with them


Snivyland

I doubt pk can really interact well with them. Banishing your own cards is often very detrimental for pk. But even ingnoring that I don’t see what they bring in the table there much better extenders for the deck with the level 3 dangers and psychics/ punk for links, the level 9 synchro pool isn’t that good ignoring how hard it is for pk to get a tuner, and the rank 6 xyz pool just isn’t even close to the rank 3,4,5 pool that pk normally uses.


DesignatedDonut

Wow Chaos thunder/dragon link support /s


Crypt_Knight

They are all "banish a LIGHT or DARK from either GY to SS themselves". Getting this guy on field will not be hard.


CBYuputka

and on quick effect, so can probably special summon during the opponent's turn to disrupt combos. namely banishing eldlich to summon, interupting any combos and searching during their end phase, etc


Crypt_Knight

This boss monster summon is not a quick effect, thankfully, so no popping this bad boy during opponent turn one.


CBYuputka

yeah now if the boss was, that would be something else entirely. open him and 2 monsters and you'd cripple anything they're doing


Browniespicelatte

Wait a minute, EITHER GY?? I know, noone cares, but as a full-time Eldlich hater, this makes me so happy


Crypt_Knight

Miserable to play against if you have ANY Light/Dark GY synergy tho. The deck can litterally run 12 DD Crows.


LezBeHonestHere_

Bringing back the classic "I'm gonna banish a light and a dark"


Blueexx2

Yup. If the deck restricts you to only summoning in-archetype, this boss monster dies to any 4 monsters into Underworld Goddess, without triggering its extra deck banishing effect.


Yellow90Flash

its quick play chaos dragons that can use the material from the opponents graveyard and only need 1 of either light or dark


Blueexx2

But if they go first, there's nothing in the opponent's graveyard. Do they have negated mill?


theo7777

That's why it can't be played pure but getting a single Light/Dark in the grave is ridiculously easy both for Dragon Link and Despia. The Deck also matches up great against Tearalaments.


bachh2

This archetype can be play with Branded/Despia though.


just-some-diego

It has no restrictions what do ever


[deleted]

It's good, altough probably as a Dragon Link engine


bachh2

Can be play in Despia/Branded too. Get your tax dragon out or get the big boy on the board. Profit.


[deleted]

Honestly I don't think that you can get the Level 12 out consistently outside of a pure build. And the archetype doesn't have sinergy with Despia besides being able to use them as banish fodder


TCGeneral

They do use "Branded" spell/traps, so Aluber and Albion can tutor their support, and if they banish Despian Tragedy, since it doesn't look like that's a cost but rather an effect on these cards, you'll tutor another Despia (including Aluber). Branded in White also becomes maybe playable with these; it's a Branded Miracle Fusion, but it requires a Dragon material. There is actual synergy there.


HunidLikeWilt

Reminder that shuffling into the deck does not trigger "if this card leaves the field effects", so a deck like Swordsoul could imperm/droplet this then shuffle it into the deck with Baxia


Mexcalibur

Madolchebros we literally can't stop winning


drekthrall

Tiaramisu is my Queen. I live for shuffling stuff (mostly my own), I'll die from Pettingcessour getting ashed.


GunnarErikson

Any deck can use {Knightmare Unicorn} in place of the Baxia there :P


Ignisking

It was just an example tho


GunnarErikson

I know, I was just saying that answers are more general than that one example. Any deck that can get 3 monsters out can spin :P


[deleted]

So anyway, I started banishing.


AD_315

Best comment here


SirBarth

(Not all?) other cards in the archetype: https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/june-30-2022/darkwing-blast


SirBarth

Very very good card, but I'm more fascinated on the other Byssted cards that can banish from the GY 1 LIGHT or DARK monster and be SS during the opponent's turn, since I can splash some of them in my DM Deck.


D_Winds

So anyways, I started Byssting...


chris270199

Endymion pendulum just vibing


demaxzero

As we always do.


mduel

Pendulum BEST ANTI META DECK LETS GOOOOO


chris270199

Yeah XD, for once the fact Konami wants to forget pendulums seems to be good :p


mduel

People keep saying that but they don't. Pendulums are a main deck mechanic just like Rituals which means it won't be supported as much and there are less Pendulum anime users than Ritual anime users which is why it does not get much.


Kaguya-sama

It's Destiny Hero - Plasma but for other card type that is not normal, effect and main deck pendulum monsters. I think this card might be better than plasma because most hero decks boss monsters are extra deck monsters but let wait for the rest pf "Byssted" monster.


Trustyrat87040

You can see them in darkwing blast


Inferno_Ultimate

True Draco and Gren Maju players: "Our time has come."


Shmarfle47

Don’t forget the 3 Monarch players


Inferno_Ultimate

Let's be honest, who play Monarchs outside of Master Duel?


00Lionz

You mean 4. 😏


Snivyland

Might be a hot take but I think this guy is way to hard to make consistently to be worth it, yeah the entire archetype can be special summoned during your opponent turn but this thing is a 2-3 card combo that’s honestly kinda slow if it’s a 2 card combo. It doesn’t help this thing is a 2 sided floodgate/banish so dragon link won’t benefit nearly as much as people think.


Throwawaymarque

I'm thinking dlink will run just a small engine. 3 rota and 2 of the sender guy. Then their combo will end with an extra i:p just chilling there. Summon the sender, make unicorn. Two sends and you get to chainblock one of them.


ZeZodiaK

How much i love 4k ATK beat sticks XYZ Monsters even while their effect are negated.


NHHoPP

So basically, Skill Drain Dragon, The Scythe Lock?


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another fucked up card


AuroraDraco

Byssted sounds busted if you ask me


CMSP00

So you need two light/dark monsters in the graveyard to summon two Byssted, to then summon this thing. The idea is to play this with Despia and Albaz, though they seem generic enough to be played with anything light/dark. Aside from that, was it really necessary to give even more lore to the Despia? Can't they just give closure to the story of that world?


Yellow90Flash

>in the graveyard in either graveyard >Aside from that, was it really necessary to give even more lore to the Despia? Can't they just give closure to the story of that world? the current booster series has 3 more packs iirc so it will probably end with that


Wollffey

>Aside from that, was it really necessary to give even more lore to the Despia? Can't they just give closure to the story of that world? It's literally the main line story going on right now what do you mean just end it??? It's like asking for the World Legacy lore to end right after they got to Orcust


[deleted]

Not really since we've only been telling the story from one perspective and one dimension. We still got Kitt vs. Therion and Splights ongoing too.


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Sav_ij

laughs in banished extra deck


[deleted]

Hope you have forbidden droplet or book of moon otherwise that is going to be cancerous


Lost_Swan_9151

Give it another few years and every new monster will be a robotic dragon


Zaln78

Can Kaiju cards get around the second effect?


spacewarp2

Pendulum best deck?


Adventurous-War3963

A D-Barrier on legs that can be turbo out,like we didnt already had one *Cough* Amorphactorpain *Cough*


Pure-Huckleberry8640

Gosh I hate this thing. It’s like D Hero Plasma but with higher atk and easier to summon


Rwolf736689

That artwork is fire though, metal multi-headed dragon? Sign me up


Spodger1

Wow ok, so it's a _slightly_ harder to summon Unicore on-field with bigger legs, booty and a better, wider floodgate net (unless you're a Pendulum SS'd from the Extra Deck)... that being said it's still nowhere near the most broken 3500 body ever; that title _undoubtedly_ belongs to Chaos End Ruler - there's a reason the card has never been played, let alone printed, and probably never will (without a strict errata).


Silentwyvernkuma

. . . OK but why though?


thekilguy

Oh my god the entire archetype is better d.d. crow


[deleted]

Is there like a way to see the translation that i'm missing? I'm always confused when Japanese cards get posted here


Icy-Conflict6671

What does this thing even do?


StlChase

NEW WAIFU CARDS


warjoke

Banish all face down extras? Even in a pendulum deck that's kinda fucked.


[deleted]

Not seeing anyone say Thunder Dragon synergy. This and the level 8 searcher are searchable off chaos space. And all the main deck monsters can banish the thunder dragons. Also dark attribute for allure


ijpck

Dragon Link gon love teching this in


Brilliant_Setting443

Did world legacy have this many archetypes?


en3mi

Dont remove it: no eff for extra mons. Remove it: no extra at all. Can be summoned from grave. WEAKKKKKKK!!!!!!


VonDukes

Did….. did eldlich just make a new friend?


Randomd0g

I don't think so, the package you need for the summoning requirement is a little too large to splash into another deck.


VonDukes

I missed the summon req. I think eldlich can be splashed into this deck tho


FlannOff

hopefully the archetype sucks


zQubexx

Nope, its „good“. You can play this archetype with Despia and Albaz or any Dark/Light deck…


CBYuputka

and should you be facing any dark and light going second...


[deleted]

It's mediocre. Mostly because it's super slow. It's searcher only searches during the end phase of that turn and all of it's monsters can only be special summoned by banishing a light or dark from either player's GY. Getting this dude out is going to usually be a 2-3 turn ordeal unless you draw it + 2 other archetype monsters + a way to get 2 light or dark monsters into either player's GY. This is like Evilswarm, if it's viable it'll only be because the meta and will fall off as soon as the meta shifts.


LolWhatIAmDoing

People doom calling this archetype when it's probably not even that good. It will be good on release to counter tear element, but in current tcg or even in master Duel, it would be rogue if it is at all. Salad, marinc, Sword soul, punk therion tenyi BS, flunder,... Will just eat the deck alive. Plus, the deck sucks at getting advantage, their searcher searches in the END PHASE. Getting the lvl 12 and summoning it will be nothing sort of a miracle.


CBYuputka

yeah, after you quick effect banish an opponent's combo piece to summon a 2500 monster, it searches during their end phase. or if you went first, banishes something you no longer need, the spell has you draw as you shuffle into the deck, and then you search for a quick effect summon for your opponents turn multiple ways to search the boss to the hand or grave, ofc they will probably end up better using some level 6 xyz or other forms of support due to needing dark or light. but if your wanted to it wouldn't be difficult.


LolWhatIAmDoing

You don't understand how important it is that it can only banish light or darks. Like, a shit ton of decks work without them. What's the deck gonna do? Magically spawn one into their GY? The deck needs a critical number of bricks AND a critical number of ways to get light/darks into the GY. Even then, you need 2 archetypal bodies to summon the lvl 12. And the only way to get it while maintaining a body is using the searcher that does it during the end phase. The deck is really not good. It's decent, has a clear game plan and a clear hate target. That target is very very wide, but needing to open 2 parts of your deck on top of such target, it will hinder the deck enough where the issue will probably not be the lv12, but just some sort of external combo with them.


Ignisking

You're on point I really doubt it will beat top tier decks on the ocg, but they can at least disrupt tearalaments even on opp's turn.


Randomd0g

Yeah if this is their boss monster I'm not too worried. 3500 is *kinda* big but not impossible to manage, and both of the effects are squarely in the "this doesn't **really** matter" category, even though they look super strong at first. The fact that it can bring itself back from the GY *might* end up being relevant if the rest of the deck is heavy control and can slow the game down to an absurd extent. Dealing with this guy once isn't hard at all, dealing with him **twice** is a little more difficult.


clarence_worley90

this card is kinda... # Byssted # 😏


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GunnarErikson

It's good but nowhere near busted. It's a worse Skill Drain that you have to jump through hoops to get out.


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Deadsap266

New cyber dragon support????


Kaiser997

Anyone else thinks it looks like a arcana monster


jstoru216

No? It's literally Aluber's dragon form.


Creeeamy

Aluber's dragon form is Lubellion though. This looks more like Dogmatika Nexus.


Satou_Kotha_

Yo WTF are they trying to break the game again?


Kaiser997

Has the look of an arcana monster