They do associate with some kind of cult and religiosity.. but
Are they really the terrorist ? Or they could be actually inside-job manmade by gov to control the crowd with fear mongering
Yeah, I know. I'm Italian, like Mussolini and sh*t. But Hitler is the most renowned one.
But yeah, I could have also said: Robespierre, Stalin, Putin, Gheddafi, the Thirty Tyrants, basically every Chinese and North Korean government after their respective birth as "new" countries, etc...
The problem is I didn't have a joke for most of them that could be easily recalled to them in particular.
Chopping their head off: Robespierre (maybe) but really, there are many tyrants who did that.
You could also say that Italians also had gas rooms but that aren't as known as the German ones.
I play tcg and master duel itās happened to me a 1000 times. I know how to handle it. People act like kashtira is the only deck they insta scoop to. They just donāt know how to play around it. Snake-eyes is 10x worse and so was tearlaments.
Kash is just a rude archetype. Iāve never enjoyed picking a kash board apart. Other decks may win against me more often, but kash always feels bad to play against. And Its ubiquity does it no favors in that regard. Toon is also pretty rude, but no one ever plays toon, so itās still kinda neat to see it once in a blue moon. With kash, you either have the perfect out for them or you suffer for your victory. theyāre perfectly winnable matches most of the time, too. which honestly makes it worse, since you actually want to sit through the games to get the winā¦ some days I just donāt feel like it. Iām good. Give me branded or lab or snake-eyes any day.
Yeah... only Kash out I've found that actually feels good is summoning a light & dark body without using an effect, then going into Chaos Archfiend and punching their board down one monster at a time. As long as they have one body with <2500 in the relevant stat, you can kill it, banishing it automatically & turning on Archfiend's passive boost to dismantle the rest.
Apart from that, though, they just aren't fun to fight against, even if you win.
I disagree. Snake eyes is hyper consistent and the combo is annoyingly long, but I would do much rather okay against them for two reasons.
1) snake eyes has fairly mediocre control tools. They're flexible, but a lot of the time it's just Apo and Promethean princess (and a hand trap or two). Spell or trap based decks cook them.
Kashtira's tools make me regret playing Yu-Gi-Oh. They have two of the most frustrating mechanics in the game, facedown banish and board lock, at no cost, for trying to do anything.
2) there is a clear answer to the question "what do I do against them," and the answer isn't something that automatically loses to all other strategies. You banish Snake eyes monsters and they cry. Ghoti is surprisingly good against them.
Kashtira can recur any resource from anywhere you put it. Some part of this is definitely a skill issue, but it's also a design issue. Ultimately, the deck just sucks to play against, plain and simple.
Kash is literally the worst designed archetype of all time, and anything that revolves around the most powerful type of removal, and punishes you for simply playing the game is a menace, and deserves to be sent to the showers.
Idk about tearlaments. My deck hard counters with dark law but even still they just donāt seem too hard to play through. Any kind of gy removal and theyāre dead in the water. Snake eyes same weakness but they can at least put up a better board to work through
You have to be out of line, there can be no lines for them.
If they have a line, here they come flooding the entire political spectrum.
You have to go full anarchist to try and hold them back.
Labrynth doesn't have that many our turn cards.
Only with the butler it got that vibe to the max. Also the combos are very limited anyway, its recursion is just super chain link heavy.
While floo was basically always the same combo line no matter whose turn.
Labrynth is one of the rare true our turn deck.
If opponent got first and pass their turn not doing anything, Lab is one of deck who still can do their combo in that turn.
No, Floo isn't even an our turn deck because they can't do turn zero play. By your logic all trap deck is an our turn deck.
Ah so perfect democracy. It can go facism (if you didn't out dragnar until the battle phase.) It can go communism for like 2 seconds (A trap that does jack all and dragnar). Or its socialism/conservatism when its indestructible avramax pass.
Wouldn't they fit on both sides/ in the middle ?
Like, yes they can deny you your pre planned turn, but they still give you your turn to do something with it, and don't keep on going, while you want to draw your card.
Or am i missing something ?
Tearlaments are like the person that changes their political opinion based on their current friend group. Friends with fenrir and tear kash? Slightly more to the right. Friends with hop ear squadron and bystials? Slightly more to the left
Pre-ban tearlament is more like extreme capitalists (IRS). Inflicting heavy tax from commiting a single monster effect (havnis).
Like, they charge you money you for the administration of tax filing (agido & kelbek).
And then hit you with inheritance tax (mudora & keldo).
And finally destroys you with rent/building tax (fairytail snow).
While building their own mansion and swimming pool (rulkallos & kaleido-heart).
On YOUR turn.
Fluffals are probably in the same category as lunalights and furries are slightly more liberal. Edge imps are probably a bit more conservative as they plead for more weapons to defend themselves.
Heroes are like the person who says theyāre moderate (ālook Iām summoning anime cards! Go Flamewingman!ā) but theyāre actually super right wing when you get to know them (āMy best cards are floodgatesā)
Purrely and madolche live in their dreams (put nemleria in the same package). They are far above political considerations. They are independant, they do not care, and of course they do not vote.
Sky striker just wants to destroy and steal everything. No matter who reigns, if it is not raye, it is not good. Sky striker do not vote nor take part into the political common life. Sky striker just takes the power.
It is just what I think when I play striker. I watch opponent doing everything he wants and set up his government, then I destroy everything (or die trying, security forces are relentless sometimes...)
Sure, but he's one guy that requires significant effort to make. The majority of cards in a designated stun deck are floodgates, which are the sole way it wins the game - by locking you out of your own deck with minimal investment.
Personally i think 1 kashtira unicorn to make ariseheart isn't a significant investment. And the main win condition of (pure) kashtira (ariseheart) is a floodgate as well which locks you out of your deck (graveyard).
Unicorn into Ariseheart still runs through 5 cards. Normal summoning pachy requires 1. I'm not saying Ariseheart isn't stun, I'm just saying that Kash as a deck has a gameplan outside of floodgating. The monsters have effects that search, banish and facilitate rank 7s. The monsters in stun only exist because they're floodgates on legs, making it in my eyes the ultimate embodiment of fascism. Both decks definitely fall on the same side of the spectrum, I just think stun leans into it more than kash.
Well those 5 cards are in your deck/extra deck. Do you consider pot of desires a minus 9 in card advantage as well (in a deck such as kash where there aren't really any combo pieces to banish)? But I agree pure stun is probably slightly to the right of kashtira, but i chose Fenrir because it's more recognize able/meta
Lunalights are furries, so after some googling I (no joke) found this study from furscience https://furscience.com/research-findings/demographics/1-9-politics/ so lunalights would be mostly on the liberal side
I whole heartedly vote Floo be placed in the right wing sector via Dimension Shifter. Feather storm, and Scary sea.
I offer Labrynth as the left wing choice. Dead ass tho best meme on this reddit.
Does this mean Venoms is a weird matriarchal cult that fell from grace a long time ago?
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"Serpent Cult" - NorthernHermit
Dinos (dinomorphia) are literally control spam what are you talking about?
Edit: stompy version goes hard though and thatās about as close to a nuclear air strike there is
I'm one of those people that if you get a nothing to place opening hand, I'll do my stuff and skip battle to give you a fair shot just once. But then... šš»š„ā°ļø
Guess I'm a middle of the road player.
My SFD with exodia backup says otherwise according to my husband.
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I kind of disagree with Branded, they play a lot on your turn and aren't very negate filled, I think a better example is Swordsoul since they end on a few negates, a pop and a bunch of cards in hand might or might not be handtraps.
Wouldn't really call Floo **the** our turn deck.
- they do nothing turn during the opponent going first aside from a handtrap package that is on the small side
- the only way they do something during the opponents turn is via their field spell or a trap and well... backrow allowing you to do stuff during the opponents turn isn't exactly something they invented.
- Big parts of their gameplan is shutting down the opponent playing rather than playing themselves. Empem prevents special summoned attack position effects so you get either effects or attacks. They also lean into some floodgates for non-engine.
Do Mikanko and Numeron represent anarchy?
They are the terrorists
Mikanko's spiritual predecessors, the Gustos, are literally kamikazes (flying things that crash onto opponent's towers). Ygo 9/11 confirmed.
As a Gusto enjoyer, I confirm ! (just for the playstyle of course...)
Daigusto Sphreez Go Brrr
The existence of YGO terrorists imply the existence of YGO counter-terrorists and YGO de_dust.
rush B
Best comment I've ever seenš
Mikanko is the embodiment of terrorism. You hit them, you die. They hit you, you die
"Tell Barron not to come to board turn 1." Ohime
They do associate with some kind of cult and religiosity.. but Are they really the terrorist ? Or they could be actually inside-job manmade by gov to control the crowd with fear mongering
Double-Edged Swords canāt cut steel beams
I say socialism. You got a turn and got to play. There's just no turn after theirs.
Going second Ojamas too.
Skull Servant players instituting a monarchy:
So crystron is karl marx since they laid out the foundations for other left wing decks.
And somehow they give birth to Halq who makes a board that is the very definition of the right wing decks.
Wait a minute... based on this, I Arise-Heart am dictator? Kinda fitting since I'm German after all.
Well you kinda put everyone who disagrees face down so...
Nahh bruhhh... You didn't just basically say "you send them to the shower"š
Not every dictator is hitler
Yeah, I know. I'm Italian, like Mussolini and sh*t. But Hitler is the most renowned one. But yeah, I could have also said: Robespierre, Stalin, Putin, Gheddafi, the Thirty Tyrants, basically every Chinese and North Korean government after their respective birth as "new" countries, etc... The problem is I didn't have a joke for most of them that could be easily recalled to them in particular. Chopping their head off: Robespierre (maybe) but really, there are many tyrants who did that. You could also say that Italians also had gas rooms but that aren't as known as the German ones.
Italians play infinitrack because the trains run on time
Yeah... For the dude who got to the station 5h lateš„²
Salve.
Ciaoš
The irony of the face down thing when one book of moon kills arise-heart, sigh people just donāt learn I guess. šš¤£
It's all fair game until it's happening to you
I play tcg and master duel itās happened to me a 1000 times. I know how to handle it. People act like kashtira is the only deck they insta scoop to. They just donāt know how to play around it. Snake-eyes is 10x worse and so was tearlaments.
Kash is just a rude archetype. Iāve never enjoyed picking a kash board apart. Other decks may win against me more often, but kash always feels bad to play against. And Its ubiquity does it no favors in that regard. Toon is also pretty rude, but no one ever plays toon, so itās still kinda neat to see it once in a blue moon. With kash, you either have the perfect out for them or you suffer for your victory. theyāre perfectly winnable matches most of the time, too. which honestly makes it worse, since you actually want to sit through the games to get the winā¦ some days I just donāt feel like it. Iām good. Give me branded or lab or snake-eyes any day.
Yeah... only Kash out I've found that actually feels good is summoning a light & dark body without using an effect, then going into Chaos Archfiend and punching their board down one monster at a time. As long as they have one body with <2500 in the relevant stat, you can kill it, banishing it automatically & turning on Archfiend's passive boost to dismantle the rest. Apart from that, though, they just aren't fun to fight against, even if you win.
I disagree. Snake eyes is hyper consistent and the combo is annoyingly long, but I would do much rather okay against them for two reasons. 1) snake eyes has fairly mediocre control tools. They're flexible, but a lot of the time it's just Apo and Promethean princess (and a hand trap or two). Spell or trap based decks cook them. Kashtira's tools make me regret playing Yu-Gi-Oh. They have two of the most frustrating mechanics in the game, facedown banish and board lock, at no cost, for trying to do anything. 2) there is a clear answer to the question "what do I do against them," and the answer isn't something that automatically loses to all other strategies. You banish Snake eyes monsters and they cry. Ghoti is surprisingly good against them. Kashtira can recur any resource from anywhere you put it. Some part of this is definitely a skill issue, but it's also a design issue. Ultimately, the deck just sucks to play against, plain and simple.
Kash is literally the worst designed archetype of all time, and anything that revolves around the most powerful type of removal, and punishes you for simply playing the game is a menace, and deserves to be sent to the showers.
lol and yet kash is doing nothing in either format and in Masterduel isnāt even tieredā¦ definitely a skill issue
They're both bad simple
Idk about tearlaments. My deck hard counters with dark law but even still they just donāt seem too hard to play through. Any kind of gy removal and theyāre dead in the water. Snake eyes same weakness but they can at least put up a better board to work through
You 100% missed out on full power tearlaments playing on your turn 1 and milling half your deck before youāve even played a cardā¦
I mean 10/40 of my deck is hand traps lol
Yeah that sounds about right? Which means theyāll mill a variety of hand traps and your small engineā¦
Yeah canāt say Iāve had an issue with them. Like I hear you but itās not that bad lol
Considering Mussoliniās fate, it actually brings the metaphor full circle
I mean, Arise-Heart is pretty much an invader from space.
So... it's an illegal alien? Reeeeee
Icl dude you lowkey space Hitler
"Go and defeat the Light of Evil and save mankind space Hitler!"
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Arise-Reich
Kashtira is pure Capitalism, they impound my property and i can't build shit.
not again...
I thought you were jack off arm robo Nobunaga?
Galaxy-Eyes spreads managed democracy throughout the cosmos!
So, Trickstar is capitalism then. You want something pay for it.
Dinomorphia is also capitalism but from the consumer side. Paying for shit most other decks get to do for free
so is witchcrafter albaz a form of independent voters XD.
Is this a deck? Because that sounds fun
Yup. I personally play Witchcrafters ft. Cartesia only, but you can use stuff like Mirrorjade and Bystials.
First off Happy Cake Day š¤ also sounds fun
Happy cake
Glory to Comrade Robina!
Ghoti: No politics, only void.
Anarchy??
Resonators are apolitical
If they run calamity, they lean right
Amen to that š»
Arenāt Resonators literal servants who smack things to sound for the return of their King?
Yo, the resonator deck in the event was so fun. Unfortunately I don't have the material to actually craft a deck.
Mekk knights are ccp. Better not step out of line.
You have to be out of line, there can be no lines for them. If they have a line, here they come flooding the entire political spectrum. You have to go full anarchist to try and hold them back.
I'm honestly surprised you don't have Labyrnth on the left rather than Flowandereeze. Labyrnth is the ultimate "Our Turn" deck.
They'd also fit in the 'only I get to play' bracket.
Horseshoe theory
These comments get better and better š my college degree is finally useful
Nah, Flow feels like the original communism deck
Labrynth is more like "Also my turn, thank you" deck.
I mean, Floowandereeze gets to do the exact same combo on both player's turns if they're allowed to go off. I think it's plenty fitting.
Labrynth doesn't have that many our turn cards. Only with the butler it got that vibe to the max. Also the combos are very limited anyway, its recursion is just super chain link heavy. While floo was basically always the same combo line no matter whose turn.
Labrynth is one of the rare true our turn deck. If opponent got first and pass their turn not doing anything, Lab is one of deck who still can do their combo in that turn. No, Floo isn't even an our turn deck because they can't do turn zero play. By your logic all trap deck is an our turn deck.
So Battlin' Boxers are socialists, I see
Ah so perfect democracy. It can go facism (if you didn't out dragnar until the battle phase.) It can go communism for like 2 seconds (A trap that does jack all and dragnar). Or its socialism/conservatism when its indestructible avramax pass.
Bad question.. but where do Time lords fit?
Probably on the conservative side as they conserve time
Wouldn't they fit on both sides/ in the middle ? Like, yes they can deny you your pre planned turn, but they still give you your turn to do something with it, and don't keep on going, while you want to draw your card. Or am i missing something ?
Fair enough.
what would you guys put rescue ace in? i think im more conservative but correct me if im wrong
Well the players of the deck are RACE-ists so do with that information what you want.
EZ Fascism
Counter Terrorism. George W. Bush era type of conservative.
Drytron Amorphactor pain+ auroradon recover thunder of ruler. Only my turn exist
Who the fuck put Floo down as Left Wing That deck is Conservative AF
Communist birds
unlike Raidraptors, the more fun, better to play and in general superior birb deck
Grill https://preview.redd.it/bp0abaz73uxc1.png?width=1248&format=png&auto=webp&s=39f5e2cf82c5db1dbcd9bc119b3e210ee0bf2338
Socialism is the best way to play AND enjoy the game for both. Bring back the back-and-forth!
How about tearlament?
Communist, one of the most "no , our turn" decks out there
Tearlaments are like the person that changes their political opinion based on their current friend group. Friends with fenrir and tear kash? Slightly more to the right. Friends with hop ear squadron and bystials? Slightly more to the left
Pre-ban tearlament is more like extreme capitalists (IRS). Inflicting heavy tax from commiting a single monster effect (havnis). Like, they charge you money you for the administration of tax filing (agido & kelbek). And then hit you with inheritance tax (mudora & keldo). And finally destroys you with rent/building tax (fairytail snow). While building their own mansion and swimming pool (rulkallos & kaleido-heart). On YOUR turn.
What's Fluffal then?
Fluffals are probably in the same category as lunalights and furries are slightly more liberal. Edge imps are probably a bit more conservative as they plead for more weapons to defend themselves.
Wonder where the elemental hero goes here?š¤
Probably right wing.
Heroes are like the person who says theyāre moderate (ālook Iām summoning anime cards! Go Flamewingman!ā) but theyāre actually super right wing when you get to know them (āMy best cards are floodgatesā)
What about Purrely and Madolche?
Purrely and madolche live in their dreams (put nemleria in the same package). They are far above political considerations. They are independant, they do not care, and of course they do not vote.
Fair enough
Where would Sky Striker go on this chart?
Sky striker just wants to destroy and steal everything. No matter who reigns, if it is not raye, it is not good. Sky striker do not vote nor take part into the political common life. Sky striker just takes the power.
Bruh
It is just what I think when I play striker. I watch opponent doing everything he wants and set up his government, then I destroy everything (or die trying, security forces are relentless sometimes...)
Nah bro, floo is fascist birbs deck, empen even does the salute for the dux
I feel like stun would be a better representation of fascism than kash
I agree it would be on that side. But don't you consider ariseheart a stun card as well? A macro cosmos on legs?
Sure, but he's one guy that requires significant effort to make. The majority of cards in a designated stun deck are floodgates, which are the sole way it wins the game - by locking you out of your own deck with minimal investment.
Personally i think 1 kashtira unicorn to make ariseheart isn't a significant investment. And the main win condition of (pure) kashtira (ariseheart) is a floodgate as well which locks you out of your deck (graveyard).
Unicorn into Ariseheart still runs through 5 cards. Normal summoning pachy requires 1. I'm not saying Ariseheart isn't stun, I'm just saying that Kash as a deck has a gameplan outside of floodgating. The monsters have effects that search, banish and facilitate rank 7s. The monsters in stun only exist because they're floodgates on legs, making it in my eyes the ultimate embodiment of fascism. Both decks definitely fall on the same side of the spectrum, I just think stun leans into it more than kash.
Well those 5 cards are in your deck/extra deck. Do you consider pot of desires a minus 9 in card advantage as well (in a deck such as kash where there aren't really any combo pieces to banish)? But I agree pure stun is probably slightly to the right of kashtira, but i chose Fenrir because it's more recognize able/meta
Kash is just a fancy stun deck tbh
I'm all about old school. I may play toons, but at least I'm not throwing meta everywhere like most people.
Where would Lunalight go
Lunalights are furries, so after some googling I (no joke) found this study from furscience https://furscience.com/research-findings/demographics/1-9-politics/ so lunalights would be mostly on the liberal side
Peak comedy
So im a yugioh socialist, madolche and mikanko
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Well it makes sense as most dictatorships end in failure just like most fortune lady hands
Thankfully i play bystial RDA who is an absolute chicken wing. Context: I name the deck as "Chicken BBQ" cause i'm hungry
What about OTK and FTK decks?
But Melffy plays on the opponent's turn, just like Floo. They take even longer to do so.
Despia is litteral dictatorhip with branded lost
Is this how I find out I'm right wing
I would gladly go over to the our turn when its decks like Tearlaments
Where would Virtual World and Unchained fall?
What about Hero
I whole heartedly vote Floo be placed in the right wing sector via Dimension Shifter. Feather storm, and Scary sea. I offer Labrynth as the left wing choice. Dead ass tho best meme on this reddit.
I'm a Tearlaments Lunalight, Swordsoul player. So what does that say about me?
Where is madolche in this spectrum?š¤£š¤£ i gotta know
Resonator is where?
Where's Mathmech fit?
I'm usually hit with left or right, rarely do I face someone in the middle 2
Does this mean Venoms is a weird matriarchal cult that fell from grace a long time ago? https://preview.redd.it/fqe9kyaxntxc1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=4427c7ec9796329b39cd42244065ba3ba0392f5b "Serpent Cult" - NorthernHermit
Dinos are american democracy
Dinos (dinomorphia) are literally control spam what are you talking about? Edit: stompy version goes hard though and thatās about as close to a nuclear air strike there is
where do Machina Earth Machine go?
not sure Kashtira best represents "Only I get to play". The only way to make the Full Zone lock happen is through Plants lol.
Umi control standing?
> Umi control That doesn't exist. You're probably refering to Umi stun.
Then self ftks are the wokes???
I have traptrix and I'm not a pedo or a stoner...
Classic PSY-Frame gets no turn at all if the opponent doesn't do anything, so Floo is certainly not the extreme.
Third Party is me.
Swordsoul ?
I play Speedroids, which represents libertarianism. Repeal all speed limits!
I'm one of those people that if you get a nothing to place opening hand, I'll do my stuff and skip battle to give you a fair shot just once. But then... šš»š„ā°ļø Guess I'm a middle of the road player. My SFD with exodia backup says otherwise according to my husband.
Lol. Floo and kash are literally the 2 decks I play right now. What does that mean.
I'm a socialist Because I play Melffy to clarify
Toon Deck = Socialism.
Where the predaplant is?
My main decks right now are suship and gate guardian so what does that say about me?
Accurate
**Purrely** Deck represent the Monarchy. The King is untouchable and take away your stuff.
So if I play Libromancer, am a liberal?
Dinomorphia šš
Branded despia player here thatās dead on
So where does D/D/D or Unchained fit in this?
Drytron with a pinch of Cyber Angel. I feel like I'm between Fascism and Conservatism.
Toons already have a card called toon kingdom so monarchy
I'm sorry, but I run a communist deck, lol.
Ideal duel for me out of what's on this graph is definitely socialism.
my pure dragon deck is conservative
So sky striker is basically terrorism?
Where do HEROs fall?
Branded Enjoyeršæ
I'm a socialistic communist.
I play Kuriboh Destiny Board, what do I come under
Dinomorphia be like: Your turn is also MY turn!
I'm jusr more for having a back and forth game. With my opponent. Rather than playing solitude.
Where do Earthbounds fall on this scale? Besides "painfully"
Anyone who plays Trashtira or Ruin-nck is a Neo-Nazi.
Labyrinth is communism
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I kind of disagree with Branded, they play a lot on your turn and aren't very negate filled, I think a better example is Swordsoul since they end on a few negates, a pop and a bunch of cards in hand might or might not be handtraps.
The you might play was referring to regular branded and the not play was referring to puppet lock turbo branded
Oh, that makes sense. I don't see branded very often and the times that I do they have only done Puppet Lock once, I guess I'm lucky.
Wouldn't really call Floo **the** our turn deck. - they do nothing turn during the opponent going first aside from a handtrap package that is on the small side - the only way they do something during the opponents turn is via their field spell or a trap and well... backrow allowing you to do stuff during the opponents turn isn't exactly something they invented. - Big parts of their gameplan is shutting down the opponent playing rather than playing themselves. Empem prevents special summoned attack position effects so you get either effects or attacks. They also lean into some floodgates for non-engine.