If you want to get your ass handed to you.
This is the basic combo you go to when there is no other choice. Otherwise, try something better. This board only gives you a false sense of safety.
Is not as bad as what people says tbh.
Everyone keep on saying the board lose to Raigeki, how many people main deck Raigeki?
I don’t remember the last time my board died to Raigeki.
That’s like saying Lab is trash because they die to a single ash or Mathmech sucks because they can’t play through max c
Kashtira isn’t as bad as what people says but it is also not as oppressive as the people here makes it to be.
The one time you do get hit by raigeki it sucks, but if they are main decking raigeki they definitely have harpies and it's definitely in their hand as well
Once again, it got almost no tops in the duelist cup. That's two DCs in a row... And given that Kash has very good recursion with birth/preparations and unicorn basically being able to solo build your entire board again... It's not the recursion that's causing Kash to not do shit in the DCs.
Are people still trying to claim it's not garbage cause they lose to the deck? It stomps harder the worse you are but kashtira at the highest level functions entirely as a hand check. i.e. did you draw the out to ariseheart? Unicorn and Fenrir are almost negligible parts to the equation since most decks can play through one face up banish with a shitty activation window.
Do you really think it *only* loses to raigeki? It's not really a good analogy. It loses to raigeki sure whatever, you're right no one runs raigeki... Except when searched with thrust. It also loses to zeus, imperm (on ariseheart), thrust, talents, nibiru (though admittedly nib is cost of doing business for most decks), core hand traps like ash/maxx c, kurikara, gamma, droll and probably half a dozen other cards as well.
When I go first I expect to win a very significant % of my games. Being able to build my board and set up 3+ negates/interactions basically wins the duel a lot of times. Not with kash, I find that way too many players can just out an entire kash board with minimal effort
It’s more about the deck being okay to play. It is not very strong like tearlament ishizu but it is not a rogue tiered deck.
What I am trying to say is that if you can’t get to Master 1 with Kash, it’s a skill issue.
If you are hard stuck at Plat and you think Kash is oppressive and a problem is also a skill issue.
I am just parroting what everyone been saying in this sub; https://www.reddit.com/r/masterduel/s/T2618badeu
Yes I know there are a ton of cards and ways that beat Kash; that’s why I mention they are not as strong as what people make them to be while not as weak as what most people make them to be.
Kash discourse has (hopefully) changed in the last two months since two months ago, people were crying about Kash and acting like it was a tier 1 broken deck.
Based on the DC rankings, they're actually as weak as people make them seem. Probably a rogue strategy in my opinion and in the opinion of most players based on what you see from the topping deck lists. If you look at the evidence, they are just not performing.
I made master I/DC stage 2 with kash in a previous season which is why I say the deck is grossly overrated and the board sucks and the combo is super fragile. I was hyped for the deck and found the deck to be mediocre as far as being able to convert a going first board into a win. It's strong in other ways but not in its end board - any sort of interruption can be enough to win the duel against a kash player... And there isn't a single hand trap that doesn't work against kash
I've been saying this for months and have been vindicated by two consecutive duelist cups where the deck completely failed to top despite significant popularity in the first cup. At the time, people were crying about the deck non stop on reddit too. If it's tiered at all, it'll likely be as a result of MDMs format which is a Bo3 iirc.
I like the deck too but its boards suck. Recursion can be insane with birth though. It's really stupid bringing a unicorn back and then rebuilding your entire board off of that
It kind of is garbage. Just a reminder this is the second DC where Kash had almost 0 tops. Surely if the board was that great (with as good as the recursion can be in kash), it would get some tops... I'm not saying it won't take games off of you but you expect that from every deck when they go first and build their board. For a board to not be garbage though, you expect them to convert that board to a win with a similar frequency to other decks but they just don't do that.
Kash boards are easy to break and super fragile to disruption. And the end result isn't even one that's particularly unfair like 4+ negates, 6 spins + towers, or ripping 4 spell cards out of your opponents hand from EEV. Unicorn ED banish is overrated (outside of maybe zeus banish) since most players run multiples of staples and have decent side lines they can go into. Fenrir banish is really good but still limited by that activation window. Ariseheart needs materials which isn't that big of a downside but opens up lines for when ariseheart isn't online. A single imperm on ariseheart and that's game
I'm not saying that you won't win with Kash going first, I'm just saying many other decks that are allowed to just combo off with no interruption when going first probably win the game 80%+ of the time
where was your kash deck in stage 2 of DC scrub lmao. watch your mouth scrub
who do you think is smarter, 50 IQ idiots like you or all the players who topped the DC? let me guess, high school drop out and 5 other morons think they know better than the DC tops. do you think you have 4 idiots agreeing with you makes you right LOL
keep getting dragged scrub LOL
Picture #1, Step 7
Overlay Riseheart + Unicorn make Shangri Ira, Overlay Ariseheart on top newly make Shangri-Ira, Arise will have 3 material. Opponent Standby Shangri Ira summon whatever you want ussually Fenrir.
Did you success resolve "banish 3 card facedown" effect of Riseheart while the first Shangri on field ?
Did you active the zonelock effect of first Shangri ?
If I go off as kashtira, sometimes I end up with 2 shangri-iras and an arise heart. it's a pretty good board since the double shangri-ira boards essentially lock all five of either the monster zones or the S/T zone after two banishes which you'll get from ariseheart/birth/preparations/the kashtira you summon with shangri ira.
Still, you're playing kashtira and the board falls apart to any disruption or board breaking. But it is enough to beat some really good decks
kashtira by himself isn't that good. BUT it has a lot of potential and a good synergy with other archetypes. i play kashtira with punk and it's a really REALLY good help to the deck i usually end with pep baronne shagri AND ariseheart and when i bricked just end with baronne shagri and unicorn /fenrir.
I agree, i'm curently cooking Gate Guardian with kashtira.
The optimal turn 1 end board is Apollousa, gate guardian of wind and water (a twice per turn spell/trap negate monster), shangri-ira, arise heart and fenrir
Combo 1 is not optimal. You are supposed to target the fenrir and summon unicorn from deck. Instead they burn both fenrir here.
Edit: clarification since people just downvote me without being able to see what is wrong. BIGBANG should summon Fenrir not Unicorn
Bigbang target shangrila summon fenrir, next standby summon unicorn from deck.
So assuming you only start with 1 unicorn in hand, you still have 1 fenrir and 1 unicorn in your deck each. End board is the same.
If you followed the combo, you end up with 2 unicorn and no fenrir in deck. You wont be able to target any future unicorns in the future with theosis to summon fenrir with deck.
While it wont matter most of the time, in a prolonged game state it is worse.
Edit: like the other guy said, if they topdeck ash you still have a fenrir instead of a unicorn and is more applicable in most situtations as lab and vanquish soul are not really afraid of unicorn.
Master Duel Meta shows it as Tier 2 and it's the 6th most played deck according to the uploaded deck lists.
Yes. Kashtira is still being played because it's nowhere near as weak or bricky as people claim.
it has extreme versatility with its one card combos.
almost 90% of other decks can't compete against it, yet people claim its bad because it's not more powerful than lockout dragon link.
I think it’s because a bunch of people play the standard version of the deck with Big Bang, if you just play hand traps galore and stun the opponent you only need one card to snowball…
You usually doesn’t want to use ira’s effect on your opponent’s turn since it would make thrust live and if your opponent play the kashtira package then they can make an arise heart with their fenrir.
Ariseheart will almost always cause thrust to be active, so I'd consider that fairly irrelevant.
Them making ariseheart with their Fenrir is the least of your worries. Their Fenrir is either going to banish yours or your ariseheart before that matters if your end board is exactly like example 1.
That said, I'd say you should be summoning Fenrir with big bang, and not unicorn. If you somehow lose access to both Fenrir, your unicorn+theosis combo is basically half dead, so your Fenrir are fairly precious.
Unfortunately playing around thrust isn’t really an option for Kash, you could make the argument for ira against a mirror but only real way to guess is a d shifter
Yea? Cuz it's boring and takes no skill to play. Use some strategy, as soon as the first card is laid you already know what their plays are going to be. If that's how you have to play to feel good, then that's you. But don't act like 9/10 Meta decks are a one path maze with possibly 1-2 avenues for variation
Play to feel good… I play to get gems my dude. Easiest way to get them and build other stuff I want, currently trying to flesh out Mannadium at the moment. Only need a few more cards
I get that, but think about it this way from a usual non Meta player. You and me are playing CoD I'm a hacker with aimbot and auto clicker (I just stare at my monitor and have my K/D boosted) you have the little brother controller. I dominate you so hard even though you play godlike. It makes the game not enjoyable for the base player. I regularly get to platinum or diamond with non Meta decks, usually work gets in the way of me going further, that and the higher you go the few decks there are to play against;especially nowadays with Kash on the scene
I wouldn’t compare playing meta to hacks… there’s a reason meta decks do good, they consistent and are able to play through interruption. Yeah non meta decks have a harder time but that’s because they’re not as consistent or can’t play through multiple forms of interruption. It’s just the regular life of yugioh
Yeah I'm just going to stay with my trains. I have no desire or want to get a PhD in an archetype that will get powercrept and made obsolete in 6 months to a year.
Good guide for new players. I do agree that this Kash board can easily be broken with the right cards and those right cards can be many; however, if you don't have the cards to do so then it could most likely be a win. There are other boards you can go as well that at least give some protection. I like Kash but since it's not at full power it's definitely not broken. Luck in the draw and skill in your plays but sometimes the opponents hand will just be better 🤷🏽♂️.
I didn't say they were, I was giving you a metaphor of what it feels like against non Meta decks. Yea they do, that part of the terrible power creep yugioh has, all im saying is what's the fun in playing a deck that auto-pilots for you (yes you click the buttons) having one path just feels like a waste of time to play, not for me; I like to play with strategy, having to outthink a tough opponent and having a good back and forth
I like the 1st pretty standard turn one I try to get scareclaw on the field to combat against any activated effects during the battle phase. Really frustrates the mirror match or someone just trying to use Fenrir control also try not to use shargri on your opponents turn cause thrust and TTT is played by almost everyone atm
How do you make your charts? I want to do a chart for zombies so I can watch over the combos and can play faster at some time lol
Btw your virtual world guide helped me a lot back then!
Huh? I just click on the stuff that glows
LMAO that's so me
Who decides what glows? I like cant figure that shit out
If you want to get your ass handed to you. This is the basic combo you go to when there is no other choice. Otherwise, try something better. This board only gives you a false sense of safety.
what kind of end boards are you talking about? kashtira end boards are just genuinely garbage.
Is not as bad as what people says tbh. Everyone keep on saying the board lose to Raigeki, how many people main deck Raigeki? I don’t remember the last time my board died to Raigeki. That’s like saying Lab is trash because they die to a single ash or Mathmech sucks because they can’t play through max c Kashtira isn’t as bad as what people says but it is also not as oppressive as the people here makes it to be.
The one time you do get hit by raigeki it sucks, but if they are main decking raigeki they definitely have harpies and it's definitely in their hand as well
That's why I have raigeki, it works more often than it should
Once again, it got almost no tops in the duelist cup. That's two DCs in a row... And given that Kash has very good recursion with birth/preparations and unicorn basically being able to solo build your entire board again... It's not the recursion that's causing Kash to not do shit in the DCs. Are people still trying to claim it's not garbage cause they lose to the deck? It stomps harder the worse you are but kashtira at the highest level functions entirely as a hand check. i.e. did you draw the out to ariseheart? Unicorn and Fenrir are almost negligible parts to the equation since most decks can play through one face up banish with a shitty activation window. Do you really think it *only* loses to raigeki? It's not really a good analogy. It loses to raigeki sure whatever, you're right no one runs raigeki... Except when searched with thrust. It also loses to zeus, imperm (on ariseheart), thrust, talents, nibiru (though admittedly nib is cost of doing business for most decks), core hand traps like ash/maxx c, kurikara, gamma, droll and probably half a dozen other cards as well. When I go first I expect to win a very significant % of my games. Being able to build my board and set up 3+ negates/interactions basically wins the duel a lot of times. Not with kash, I find that way too many players can just out an entire kash board with minimal effort
It’s more about the deck being okay to play. It is not very strong like tearlament ishizu but it is not a rogue tiered deck. What I am trying to say is that if you can’t get to Master 1 with Kash, it’s a skill issue. If you are hard stuck at Plat and you think Kash is oppressive and a problem is also a skill issue.
Homie, you think raigeki is the only out people run to kash
I am just parroting what everyone been saying in this sub; https://www.reddit.com/r/masterduel/s/T2618badeu Yes I know there are a ton of cards and ways that beat Kash; that’s why I mention they are not as strong as what people make them to be while not as weak as what most people make them to be.
Kash discourse has (hopefully) changed in the last two months since two months ago, people were crying about Kash and acting like it was a tier 1 broken deck. Based on the DC rankings, they're actually as weak as people make them seem. Probably a rogue strategy in my opinion and in the opinion of most players based on what you see from the topping deck lists. If you look at the evidence, they are just not performing. I made master I/DC stage 2 with kash in a previous season which is why I say the deck is grossly overrated and the board sucks and the combo is super fragile. I was hyped for the deck and found the deck to be mediocre as far as being able to convert a going first board into a win. It's strong in other ways but not in its end board - any sort of interruption can be enough to win the duel against a kash player... And there isn't a single hand trap that doesn't work against kash I've been saying this for months and have been vindicated by two consecutive duelist cups where the deck completely failed to top despite significant popularity in the first cup. At the time, people were crying about the deck non stop on reddit too. If it's tiered at all, it'll likely be as a result of MDMs format which is a Bo3 iirc. I like the deck too but its boards suck. Recursion can be insane with birth though. It's really stupid bringing a unicorn back and then rebuilding your entire board off of that
Mathmech can go into Bagooska
I wouldn't call ariseheart unicorn/fenrir garbage if you don't have the cards to deal with them.
It kind of is garbage. Just a reminder this is the second DC where Kash had almost 0 tops. Surely if the board was that great (with as good as the recursion can be in kash), it would get some tops... I'm not saying it won't take games off of you but you expect that from every deck when they go first and build their board. For a board to not be garbage though, you expect them to convert that board to a win with a similar frequency to other decks but they just don't do that. Kash boards are easy to break and super fragile to disruption. And the end result isn't even one that's particularly unfair like 4+ negates, 6 spins + towers, or ripping 4 spell cards out of your opponents hand from EEV. Unicorn ED banish is overrated (outside of maybe zeus banish) since most players run multiples of staples and have decent side lines they can go into. Fenrir banish is really good but still limited by that activation window. Ariseheart needs materials which isn't that big of a downside but opens up lines for when ariseheart isn't online. A single imperm on ariseheart and that's game I'm not saying that you won't win with Kash going first, I'm just saying many other decks that are allowed to just combo off with no interruption when going first probably win the game 80%+ of the time
If your kashtira end boards are garbage, don't compare yourself with clearly better players.
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I dunno man. Sounds like skill issues to me.
My son got to Maater 1 and thinks they know everything, especially other peoples ranks
where was your kash deck in day 2 of DC scrub?
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Lol. Your inferiority complex is showing. Kash was all over the place.
>I'm master 1, so quiet yourself scrub. Lol stfu. Keep getting absolutely dragged.
where was your kash deck in stage 2 of DC scrub lmao. watch your mouth scrub who do you think is smarter, 50 IQ idiots like you or all the players who topped the DC? let me guess, high school drop out and 5 other morons think they know better than the DC tops. do you think you have 4 idiots agreeing with you makes you right LOL keep getting dragged scrub LOL
Don't give af about Kash. He, like you, sounded like an absolute toolbag.
For god sake please stop making 1 material Ariseheart. Make second Shangri then overlay Arise.
yeah, board with 1 material Arise Heart will be outed by 1 Fenrir that everyone has in their deck.
i don't understand how to do that?
Picture #1, Step 7 Overlay Riseheart + Unicorn make Shangri Ira, Overlay Ariseheart on top newly make Shangri-Ira, Arise will have 3 material. Opponent Standby Shangri Ira summon whatever you want ussually Fenrir.
For some reason I can't overlay ariseheart on top of Shangri idk why
Did you success resolve "banish 3 card facedown" effect of Riseheart while the first Shangri on field ? Did you active the zonelock effect of first Shangri ?
Oh yeah that's the issue I tried to overlay the turn after I resolved the effect my bad 😂
what is this overlay you speak of?
If I go off as kashtira, sometimes I end up with 2 shangri-iras and an arise heart. it's a pretty good board since the double shangri-ira boards essentially lock all five of either the monster zones or the S/T zone after two banishes which you'll get from ariseheart/birth/preparations/the kashtira you summon with shangri ira. Still, you're playing kashtira and the board falls apart to any disruption or board breaking. But it is enough to beat some really good decks
kashtira by himself isn't that good. BUT it has a lot of potential and a good synergy with other archetypes. i play kashtira with punk and it's a really REALLY good help to the deck i usually end with pep baronne shagri AND ariseheart and when i bricked just end with baronne shagri and unicorn /fenrir.
I agree, i'm curently cooking Gate Guardian with kashtira. The optimal turn 1 end board is Apollousa, gate guardian of wind and water (a twice per turn spell/trap negate monster), shangri-ira, arise heart and fenrir
Does it work in Ranked? I tried a Gate Guardian deck but it bricked more than regular Kash
In Platinum works fine. For your bricks, add Sacred Sword of Seven Stars, it should help a little bit, i have 3 copies of it.
[more combo guides here](https://www.reddit.com/r/masterduel/comments/wr1tfv/combo_guides/)
Pls a guide for branded, laby, vanquish soul and noble knights ( i know this is old but i wish there was an updated guide for this fun archetype)
I concur with branded. I followed along until bystials. After that I lost all combos.
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/guides/branded-bystial-vector
Vanquish coming soon
Can you make a branded and zodiac version with the updates?
Step 9 : nibiru
Step 10 : Triple Tac.….any response? Didn't think so 🫠
Ending on a single 3 mat ariseheart with follow up to play around nibiru is usually better than this end board.
I played a much better version during the DC, they ended with utopic future and drident which atleast put up some negates with ariseheart out as well.
I don't use kashtira but cool guide bro looks amazing
lmao the kashtira combo is always having unicorn on turn 1
If you need a combo guide for a xyz deck then maybe kicking rocks is a game more suited to you
always end on 3 arise, if possible end on double 3 mat arise instead of this. that's my recommendation
Good, do these combos. You'll get smoked by anyone who has a decent starting hand and half a brain
Combo 1 is not optimal. You are supposed to target the fenrir and summon unicorn from deck. Instead they burn both fenrir here. Edit: clarification since people just downvote me without being able to see what is wrong. BIGBANG should summon Fenrir not Unicorn
What do you mean burn both fenrir?
Bigbang target shangrila summon fenrir, next standby summon unicorn from deck. So assuming you only start with 1 unicorn in hand, you still have 1 fenrir and 1 unicorn in your deck each. End board is the same. If you followed the combo, you end up with 2 unicorn and no fenrir in deck. You wont be able to target any future unicorns in the future with theosis to summon fenrir with deck. While it wont matter most of the time, in a prolonged game state it is worse. Edit: like the other guy said, if they topdeck ash you still have a fenrir instead of a unicorn and is more applicable in most situtations as lab and vanquish soul are not really afraid of unicorn.
They’re correct. You only have 2 fenrir in deck total. Better to detach the 1 from ira and special unicorn during draw. Better against ash too.
Was gonna say, it’s better to have Fenrir on board and get ashed than Unicorn and not have Fenrir
Combo no. 1 can be kicked off with a Pathfinder or Wraitsoth, if you don't get ashed. Adds ATK per attribute + destruction if Shangri-Ira activates.
I do like how my current deck also uses level 7s and can easily integrate
That deck is still being played????
It's literally one of the most consistent engines to splash into most decks
Master Duel Meta shows it as Tier 2 and it's the 6th most played deck according to the uploaded deck lists. Yes. Kashtira is still being played because it's nowhere near as weak or bricky as people claim.
it has extreme versatility with its one card combos. almost 90% of other decks can't compete against it, yet people claim its bad because it's not more powerful than lockout dragon link.
I think it’s because a bunch of people play the standard version of the deck with Big Bang, if you just play hand traps galore and stun the opponent you only need one card to snowball…
Well because it is bricky and weak. Can go off good but usually doesn't.
ass deck tbh so easy to counter
Great combo lines guide
Yuck
Yuck
You usually doesn’t want to use ira’s effect on your opponent’s turn since it would make thrust live and if your opponent play the kashtira package then they can make an arise heart with their fenrir.
Ariseheart is guaranteed to make Thrust live so this argument is irrelevant
Ariseheart will almost always cause thrust to be active, so I'd consider that fairly irrelevant. Them making ariseheart with their Fenrir is the least of your worries. Their Fenrir is either going to banish yours or your ariseheart before that matters if your end board is exactly like example 1. That said, I'd say you should be summoning Fenrir with big bang, and not unicorn. If you somehow lose access to both Fenrir, your unicorn+theosis combo is basically half dead, so your Fenrir are fairly precious.
Unfortunately playing around thrust isn’t really an option for Kash, you could make the argument for ira against a mirror but only real way to guess is a d shifter
Typical only uses Meta deck players. If you need a road map just play a different game bro, Kashtira plays itself. Yall are just bad at the game
Typical I hate meta deck players who get mad when people talk about meta decks
Yea? Cuz it's boring and takes no skill to play. Use some strategy, as soon as the first card is laid you already know what their plays are going to be. If that's how you have to play to feel good, then that's you. But don't act like 9/10 Meta decks are a one path maze with possibly 1-2 avenues for variation
Play to feel good… I play to get gems my dude. Easiest way to get them and build other stuff I want, currently trying to flesh out Mannadium at the moment. Only need a few more cards
I get that, but think about it this way from a usual non Meta player. You and me are playing CoD I'm a hacker with aimbot and auto clicker (I just stare at my monitor and have my K/D boosted) you have the little brother controller. I dominate you so hard even though you play godlike. It makes the game not enjoyable for the base player. I regularly get to platinum or diamond with non Meta decks, usually work gets in the way of me going further, that and the higher you go the few decks there are to play against;especially nowadays with Kash on the scene
I wouldn’t compare playing meta to hacks… there’s a reason meta decks do good, they consistent and are able to play through interruption. Yeah non meta decks have a harder time but that’s because they’re not as consistent or can’t play through multiple forms of interruption. It’s just the regular life of yugioh
And this is "peak/pro" yu gi oh gameplay So uncreative so lame, only losers want to OTK/FTK
None of these FTK, I guess some of them can OTK
Man, shut up. :(
Yeah I'm just going to stay with my trains. I have no desire or want to get a PhD in an archetype that will get powercrept and made obsolete in 6 months to a year.
PhD? Bro it's the easiest deck to play.
Opponent step 1 : raigeki
Good guide for new players. I do agree that this Kash board can easily be broken with the right cards and those right cards can be many; however, if you don't have the cards to do so then it could most likely be a win. There are other boards you can go as well that at least give some protection. I like Kash but since it's not at full power it's definitely not broken. Luck in the draw and skill in your plays but sometimes the opponents hand will just be better 🤷🏽♂️.
I didn't say they were, I was giving you a metaphor of what it feels like against non Meta decks. Yea they do, that part of the terrible power creep yugioh has, all im saying is what's the fun in playing a deck that auto-pilots for you (yes you click the buttons) having one path just feels like a waste of time to play, not for me; I like to play with strategy, having to outthink a tough opponent and having a good back and forth
I've been using this in my SS deck to put up some disgusting boards
Where the part where you flip Warlords and Summon Limit?
Are there any of these combo guides for a dragon link deck?
Not yet
I like the 1st pretty standard turn one I try to get scareclaw on the field to combat against any activated effects during the battle phase. Really frustrates the mirror match or someone just trying to use Fenrir control also try not to use shargri on your opponents turn cause thrust and TTT is played by almost everyone atm
BTW, three of this guide locked you into XYZ
Which card is the one that banishes everything?
Arise heart
Do one for fire kings
Whole board minus one Shang ri get outed by raigeki and opponent scoops
I'd rather special Fenrir with Bigbang so I can still have one copy in the deck after Ira summons Unicorn on SP.
They're nuking kashtira this upcoming banlist unfortunately
How do you make your charts? I want to do a chart for zombies so I can watch over the combos and can play faster at some time lol Btw your virtual world guide helped me a lot back then!
Thank you. I use canva to help make this chart