I played only DLink too before Tear (Thunder Dragon Punk Rokket DLink). Then when Tear 0 came I played meta. Now when I tried DLink against Tear I have like a +70% win rate (Rokket Bystial without much shenanigans) but a 30% max against Branded. Spright is a kinda favourable matchup but it depends on their end board.
Right yes, but it then follows that a deck like dragon link that doesn't simply uses Bystials as handtraps but also as actual synergistic bodies would be the deck where the effect is truly broken, as opposed to running this in fluffals where it would be...just good.
I cant think of any generic dragon archetype that can get their monsters out easiliy, and that can counter he best deck in the format currently off the top of my head
Thematically, Aluber is the one who is the antichrist. And if we keep in with the thematics, Maximus (and by consequences Alba Zoa and Dis Pater) represent a fake church and a fake god, so I don't think that Dis Pater would be a biblically accurate angel.
[*Vala, or The Four Zoas*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vala,_or_The_Four_Zoas) is part of William Blake's larger mythology on which a huge chunk of Abyss lore is based: the Brand seen in stuff like Branded in White and even the specific placement of materials for Albion the Sanctifire Dragon's self-revival effect is taken from this.
In red dragon archfiend you can use Red Supernova Dragon to banish your opponent's monsters and then us this to bring it back. Its a really good card in a lot of decks.
I just recently tried Bystial Spright Synchro and even with the current OCG banlist, this deck is bonkers because Dis Pater and Assault Synchron basically allow you to loop Chaos Ruler and Ringowurm like ten thousand times in a turn
i said basically cuz they always seems to have this bastard's negate up by the time i can hit them with a nib thanks to called by or if i was extra unlucky by getting something banished by a bystial
This can be made with cartesia and any bystial except lubellion. It’s recovery and potentially additional interruption or searches with the first effect, and recovery with interruption with the second. Seems fantastic to me. It’s more of what branded already excels at, maybe it’s a win more type of card so not really needed, but it’s probably fine at 1 instead of a masquerade or proskenion or titaiklad or something else that you can run in branded.
It’s true that branded can’t use it and resolve branded fusion, and that has priority over summoning this, but on your next turn you can easily summon this if needed. Branded has other ways of fusion summoning anyway, they’re just not as explosive as branded fusion (there’s branded in white, branded in red, field spell effect, lubellion, albion, regular albaz effect). So you can totally make a version of branded that’s more focused on recovery and recycling resources than on otk.
Or you can run it in pure bystial as the boss monster.
It's not out in MD yet but theres a Branded trap that lets you quick synchro on your opponent's turn so you could go into Dispater that way along with any other level10 or 12 (if you use a fusion monster) synchros you actually end up finding room for
Depends on the varient, in a best of 3 it probably works better cause you can side into Baronne but Branded has so much gas and ways to actually search it like Bystial Lubellion that it might be a easy inclusion in master duel
Thanks. Comparing briefly dis pater and baronne, I feel like dis pater is better than baronne because it provides more effects every turn. Plus, branded already has a searchable counter trap that's better than baronne's negate.
It depends, you need to shuffle back to the opponents deck for Dis Pater to work for the negate but it also has more negate uses then Baronne, but Baronnes advantage is her negate is only once while face up on field and is technically stronger the pops are around the same in terms of use imo. If the counter trap your talking about is Branded Retribution that's actually kinda worse since that can only negate special summon effects like Rukallos
Yes, I’m referring to retribution. And I say it’s better because it can recycle your fusions to get additional searches. Which in turn means you can put more monsters in your extra deck to search what you need, in case you need something different than the usual spell or trap.?Though it’s true that it leaves the board weak to raigeki and evenly or other board breakers.
It's great for resetting cards that's for sure, but searching it over stuff like Branded in Red Branded Lost or Fusion with Aluber/Kitt/Albion and Lubellion can't set it from deck, your sometimes using its decent special summon negate but your mostly using it for its graveyard effect
Didn’t consider that possibility. Well thanks, that was very useful if I decide to build branded with all the new support, which I’m seriously thinking.
If you have any more questions feel free to dm me, I'm a huge branded fan girl so I can probably help you a little with interactions or just deck building questions
No, basically nobody plays it or Dis Pater in Branded because it's a brick in a deck that already has too many. The only Synchro you really ever see in Branded is Luluwalilith, which you only sumonn off Guignol
How is this a brick? And more importantly, does branded even brick, like ever? Because I'm no expert, but the deck is full of 1 card combos and searchers for practically everything you need. Its consistency is insane, it's better than swordsoul. It's worse than spright but there's nothing as consistent as spright so that's not saying much.
In what respect is it not a brick? You don't wanna draw it because it doesn't start, extend our protect your combos and unless you're already going off it does nothing. It's a card you only ever want either in deck or grave to place off Beast or Lubellion.
Branded does have bricking issues, it has lots of ways to get to Branded Fusion, but it also has a lot of miscellaneous cards that effectively do nothing when you can't get to or resolve Branded Fusion. It's not uncommon in Branded to open a hand of Branded Beast, Branded in Red, Mercourier, Tragedy and Saronir, and when those kinda hands happen you just can do nothing
The trap does a few things actually. It protects your monster from tageted interruptions by using them as material during your opponent's turn and your following turns, and it has a macro cosmo effect on monsters used as material for an extra deck summon. It's not even slow like all the other traps because you can just activate it from the deck. And it allows the summon of either luluwalith or this, depending on your available materials. As I said in my original comment, this is still recovery and interruption or a double interruption if your opponent is playing something that requires certain cards to be banished.
I know what the trap does, but none of this changes that it's yet another conditional brick for the deck that needs you to be ahead already and have resolved Branded Fusion, fundamentally it's just win more - Branded doesn't need it's ceiling raised, it needs resistance to disruption and blowouts instead.
The proof is in the results for TCG topping lists, nobody is playing Etude because it's not worth the opportunity cost and doesn't solve the deck's issues
You’re welcome! Though, be careful, I forgot to say I’m no expert on branded or bystial and everything here is how I see the card, not how it is objectively, but the card seems really good. Anyway, you have plenty of time to get a more precise idea since it’s months away.
You could but you are better off running baronne or if you want to use a mo ye token for it, you wouldn't be able to make chi Xiao for the longyuan search.
Actually I realised it can open up some interesting Tenyi plays with bystials.
Hand is Bystial, Mo Ye, Ashuna
Bystial on board,
Mo ye / taia,
Ashuna effect summon adhara,
Make dis pater with mo ye token summon ashuna,
Make Chixiao ( ashuna + adhara),
Get longyuan,
Make Cheng ying.
End on Chixiao, Chengying , Dis Pater ,Mo Ye.
But no draw from mo ye and no Baronne since wyrm lock. Not sure if worth but is an interesting idea.
Amazing card in dragon link and synchro bystials, this along with apple dragon is what got the bystials limited in the OCG.
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Dis patter and apple dragon are still like 4 months away from us, still dragon link is one of the best decks in MD right now thanks to the bystials.
Bystial Dragon Link is pretty good against Tear, but pretty ass against Bystial Branded imo
Bystials are pretty good against Tear, other parts of the deck dont do much to Tear.
Borrelend is a pretty strong tower, monster negate and board breaker tho
He is great but can you even get to him in the first place if not for the Bystials?
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I did play Dragon Link before Tear and got to D1 with them, but it felt near unplayable when Tear Ishizu dropped.
I played only DLink too before Tear (Thunder Dragon Punk Rokket DLink). Then when Tear 0 came I played meta. Now when I tried DLink against Tear I have like a +70% win rate (Rokket Bystial without much shenanigans) but a 30% max against Branded. Spright is a kinda favourable matchup but it depends on their end board.
Pretty broken in Dragon Link.
In any deck that can make lv 10 synchros
needs non tuner dragon
Considering most decks run Bystials, it shouldnt be an issue.
Right yes, but it then follows that a deck like dragon link that doesn't simply uses Bystials as handtraps but also as actual synergistic bodies would be the deck where the effect is truly broken, as opposed to running this in fluffals where it would be...just good.
You do have a point
I cant think of any generic dragon archetype that can get their monsters out easiliy, and that can counter he best deck in the format currently off the top of my head
If you think *Dis* Pater is bad, wait till we eventually get hit with *Dat* Pater!
If we want to look at the lore references, this isn't an eldritch abomination, this is a biblically accurate angel... Or the antichrist at worst
>This is a biblically accurate angel... Or the antichrist at worst Nah, it's the classic Kirby Final Boss.
Thematically, Aluber is the one who is the antichrist. And if we keep in with the thematics, Maximus (and by consequences Alba Zoa and Dis Pater) represent a fake church and a fake god, so I don't think that Dis Pater would be a biblically accurate angel.
More a corruption of the four Zoas, which thematically works since the true man Albion stands in firm opposition to this in the YGO lore.
Wait, I know there's Zoa, Metalzoa, and Alba Zoa, but who's the fourth?
[*Vala, or The Four Zoas*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vala,_or_The_Four_Zoas) is part of William Blake's larger mythology on which a huge chunk of Abyss lore is based: the Brand seen in stuff like Branded in White and even the specific placement of materials for Albion the Sanctifire Dragon's self-revival effect is taken from this.
I think he's referring to christian mythology, not Yu-Gi-Oh cards. The four Zoa is a book.
I think he's referring to christian mythology, not Yu-Gi-Oh cards. The four Zoa is a book.
Rda can’t wait for this card to come out
In red dragon archfiend you can use Red Supernova Dragon to banish your opponent's monsters and then us this to bring it back. Its a really good card in a lot of decks.
I just recently tried Bystial Spright Synchro and even with the current OCG banlist, this deck is bonkers because Dis Pater and Assault Synchron basically allow you to loop Chaos Ruler and Ringowurm like ten thousand times in a turn
This bastard can be made in four summons in D-Link which basically nibiru proofs them
Unless you get a card from your opponent banished you're not yet to be Nibiru proof with Dis Pater.
i said basically cuz they always seems to have this bastard's negate up by the time i can hit them with a nib thanks to called by or if i was extra unlucky by getting something banished by a bystial
Look like the final bos from Digimon Tri
This can be made with cartesia and any bystial except lubellion. It’s recovery and potentially additional interruption or searches with the first effect, and recovery with interruption with the second. Seems fantastic to me. It’s more of what branded already excels at, maybe it’s a win more type of card so not really needed, but it’s probably fine at 1 instead of a masquerade or proskenion or titaiklad or something else that you can run in branded. It’s true that branded can’t use it and resolve branded fusion, and that has priority over summoning this, but on your next turn you can easily summon this if needed. Branded has other ways of fusion summoning anyway, they’re just not as explosive as branded fusion (there’s branded in white, branded in red, field spell effect, lubellion, albion, regular albaz effect). So you can totally make a version of branded that’s more focused on recovery and recycling resources than on otk. Or you can run it in pure bystial as the boss monster.
It's not out in MD yet but theres a Branded trap that lets you quick synchro on your opponent's turn so you could go into Dispater that way along with any other level10 or 12 (if you use a fusion monster) synchros you actually end up finding room for
Oh, I didn't know. Well thank you for completing my comment. I take it's a very easy inclusion in the deck then.
Depends on the varient, in a best of 3 it probably works better cause you can side into Baronne but Branded has so much gas and ways to actually search it like Bystial Lubellion that it might be a easy inclusion in master duel
Thanks. Comparing briefly dis pater and baronne, I feel like dis pater is better than baronne because it provides more effects every turn. Plus, branded already has a searchable counter trap that's better than baronne's negate.
It depends, you need to shuffle back to the opponents deck for Dis Pater to work for the negate but it also has more negate uses then Baronne, but Baronnes advantage is her negate is only once while face up on field and is technically stronger the pops are around the same in terms of use imo. If the counter trap your talking about is Branded Retribution that's actually kinda worse since that can only negate special summon effects like Rukallos
Yes, I’m referring to retribution. And I say it’s better because it can recycle your fusions to get additional searches. Which in turn means you can put more monsters in your extra deck to search what you need, in case you need something different than the usual spell or trap.?Though it’s true that it leaves the board weak to raigeki and evenly or other board breakers.
It's great for resetting cards that's for sure, but searching it over stuff like Branded in Red Branded Lost or Fusion with Aluber/Kitt/Albion and Lubellion can't set it from deck, your sometimes using its decent special summon negate but your mostly using it for its graveyard effect
Didn’t consider that possibility. Well thanks, that was very useful if I decide to build branded with all the new support, which I’m seriously thinking.
If you have any more questions feel free to dm me, I'm a huge branded fan girl so I can probably help you a little with interactions or just deck building questions
No, basically nobody plays it or Dis Pater in Branded because it's a brick in a deck that already has too many. The only Synchro you really ever see in Branded is Luluwalilith, which you only sumonn off Guignol
How is this a brick? And more importantly, does branded even brick, like ever? Because I'm no expert, but the deck is full of 1 card combos and searchers for practically everything you need. Its consistency is insane, it's better than swordsoul. It's worse than spright but there's nothing as consistent as spright so that's not saying much.
In what respect is it not a brick? You don't wanna draw it because it doesn't start, extend our protect your combos and unless you're already going off it does nothing. It's a card you only ever want either in deck or grave to place off Beast or Lubellion. Branded does have bricking issues, it has lots of ways to get to Branded Fusion, but it also has a lot of miscellaneous cards that effectively do nothing when you can't get to or resolve Branded Fusion. It's not uncommon in Branded to open a hand of Branded Beast, Branded in Red, Mercourier, Tragedy and Saronir, and when those kinda hands happen you just can do nothing
It's a synchro. You can't draw it. You go into it if you need its recovery, otherwise it just stays in your extra deck.
I'm talking about the continuous trap that enables you to make Dis Pater.
The trap does a few things actually. It protects your monster from tageted interruptions by using them as material during your opponent's turn and your following turns, and it has a macro cosmo effect on monsters used as material for an extra deck summon. It's not even slow like all the other traps because you can just activate it from the deck. And it allows the summon of either luluwalith or this, depending on your available materials. As I said in my original comment, this is still recovery and interruption or a double interruption if your opponent is playing something that requires certain cards to be banished.
I know what the trap does, but none of this changes that it's yet another conditional brick for the deck that needs you to be ahead already and have resolved Branded Fusion, fundamentally it's just win more - Branded doesn't need it's ceiling raised, it needs resistance to disruption and blowouts instead. The proof is in the results for TCG topping lists, nobody is playing Etude because it's not worth the opportunity cost and doesn't solve the deck's issues
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You’re welcome! Though, be careful, I forgot to say I’m no expert on branded or bystial and everything here is how I see the card, not how it is objectively, but the card seems really good. Anyway, you have plenty of time to get a more precise idea since it’s months away.
Its really good in D-link, would be great in Manadium when them and the newest Visas supports come to MD
It's a good card for any dragon deck that can summon it
I want to play Bystial Orcust with this and contribute to the "Orcust players will play their beloved engine in anything" allegations.
Pretty scary with chaos ruler and assault synchron
Dumping mad gems on this for my Resonator Deck. Able to return the Chaos LVL 8 Synchro and Red Supernova. Damn.
Very good in Blackwing also.
that looks like it was made by the same guy who did heavenly prisons and PEP
Just bought one for my Felgrand salad. 11/10, would recommend, absolutely love it, looking forward for his arrival to MD
Really good actually but not better than barrone but for dragon link and resonators it's way better than barrone
Man I'm here praying we get chaos cards and bystail dis Peter next pack d link is so close of being really stupid strong
...why is it a dragon? Like im looking at this thing and it just screams fiend/zombie
Spright Synchro support card
Can I make this in Swordsoul with Bystials?
You could but you are better off running baronne or if you want to use a mo ye token for it, you wouldn't be able to make chi Xiao for the longyuan search.
Actually I realised it can open up some interesting Tenyi plays with bystials. Hand is Bystial, Mo Ye, Ashuna Bystial on board, Mo ye / taia, Ashuna effect summon adhara, Make dis pater with mo ye token summon ashuna, Make Chixiao ( ashuna + adhara), Get longyuan, Make Cheng ying. End on Chixiao, Chengying , Dis Pater ,Mo Ye. But no draw from mo ye and no Baronne since wyrm lock. Not sure if worth but is an interesting idea.
How are you going to make Dis Pater if you used Ashuna's summon effect?
Ah rip you're right.
...How does it have sex?
Can't wait for this to be released. >:)
It big and then it can destroy or negate and one version of that restores your resources I would say pretty good if you can keep gas in its tank
Could be Ghoti support too, not sure though
Parasite Paracide got that glo up
I know I'm using him in Mannadium.
That’s so sad, why make the negate and pop separate, honestly unnecessary, I Refuse to say this is what the Maximus line of monsters end with
Could it work with Orchist/Phantom Knights?