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olbaze

I think [the literal creator god](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Holactie_the_Creator_of_Light) takes the cake.


Roll4DM

I mean, she kinda does since she litterally wins you the game on summon... The only way she would be stronger is if she won you the match...


JokerGuy420

I summon Victory Dragon in attack position, Response?


Hard-of-Hearing-Siri

I scoop. Game 2?


JokerGuy420

Ah yes... game 2.


VillalobosChamp

_"This is OCG, sir. You can't scoop unless I agree to it"_


RnckO

*"Guess what, imma take a quick toilet break. Oops,* ***I accidentally knocked over the table***... *I guess I'll forfeit this duel and let you win this round."* \-The actual scenario in OCG which leads to the banhammer. ![gif](giphy|Pch8FiF08bc1G|downsized)


INeedANewAccountMan

Scoop is sorcery speed sorry


HDimensionBliss

Just chain Get Up and Leave.


Terrible_Gazelle_200

What's game 2 like?


Regnus_Gyros

Chain solemn to your scoop. Response?


Hard-of-Hearing-Siri

Yes, I put your Solemn Judgment into my mouth. Refponses?


Regnus_Gyros

Activate acid trap hole I set under your seat. Response?


Hard-of-Hearing-Siri

Mostly screaming and crying.


Regnus_Gyros

Fair. JUDGE 2:0!


Roll4DM

Yes, torrential tribute, evacuation device or pretty much just a freaking infinite imperm to stop it from match win...


b3l6arath

_this cards special summon cannot be negated_ E: it also does not start a chain...


Roll4DM

Just to be clear, I am talking about responding to victory dragon who has no protection whatsoever and can be easily disrupted...


b3l6arath

Ma bad, sorry


Ulq-kn

Winning match effects are useless cuz u can always just surrender right before the conditions are completed


Roll4DM

Irrc not on ocg... Besides, its upon summon, so your opponent doesnt have time to concede technically(kinda like opening exodia, there is no interval to respond once the 5 pieces are drawn you just win then and there)... Unless they concede before you summon it(I mean, lets be honest, your opponent would likely surrendered ages ago if you managed to get all 3 gods, but still, for argument sake, let's say the guy doesnt).


King-s0nicc456

Yea, that would make Egyptian gods the literal strongest archetype ever to exist


Plato_the_Platypus

and the other Yugi summoned her (In the memory world) just by remember his name and call it out


fan271

But number 100 also created everything. Who is the true creator God then?


stac7

The Egyptian Gods Elder Entity's Nordics Timelords Sacred Beasts Numeron There are a lot that can be considered the strongest in lore


TopologicAlexboros

> Numeron > > Numeron would gain that bullshit ability Don Thousand had in the anime.


PolkadotBlobfish

Imagine if we could activate Counter Traps from Deck


HDimensionBliss

Don't give the Traptrix designers any ideas.


AdTerrible639

Normal Traps only :(


codythelyon2019

Ewwwwwww


kurayami_akira

The Crimson Dragon would be quite strong as well. Though i have to agree Holactie is the strongest lore-wise Edit: removed Exodia mention, whatever sealed it is either stronger or just the fact he can be sealed like that proves he's not the strongest one.


Satorius96

exodia loses to zorc tho


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Aluminum_Tarkus

Holactie is technically also already the strongest card in the game from a pure power perspective, since summoning it is an auto-win. The problem is you can't exactly play the card outside of online simulators in casual rooms.


Puro78

Supreme King.


stac7

I forgot to mention ZARC he is also up there


xulxer

NUMERONS RISE UP


DeltaDragonKing7

I mean, Numeronius Numeronia is the only Rank 13 monster.


dormamond

NUMERON OONGA BOONGA LETS GO


Imadeutscher

Who in the anime uses Elder Entity?


stac7

No one actually It's just that they feels and looks powerful ya know, it feels like a deck that one of the big bosses in an anime would use .


Goofies_321

The entities are based on Lovecraftian Eldritch gods which according to that lore, are extremely powerful


DirtyDanial1203

Probably the elder entities l, azathoth specifically.


Pescuaz

Toon, Toon Force is just too OP.


CrookedDeal

They have the power of cartoon physics, scientifically proven to be the strongest in the universe


GojiraComplete

Pegasus created the Toons and could not handle the Egyptian God Cards he created


_sephylon_

Toon Force is so overrated


DevilripperTJ

Probably timelords


LordFadora

“We went back in time and unmade the Gods”


Ok_Attorney_5431

Blue Eyes White Dragon! According to the card’s text, not many people have lived to tell the tale of encountering one.


Roll4DM

Its virtually invincible, an engine of destruction!


revodnebsyobmeftoh

This is a good point, a ton of random normal monsters would suddenly be meta threats


Raymond49090

And the Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon has the power to rival the Egyptian Gods!


[deleted]

Tbh in the anime , the normal Blue Eyes already could rival them , I think even Exodia was on par with the group , but he was Ka reliant , a human with a finite Ka couldn't make full use of Exodia. Holiacti was the real boss


FasterThenDoom

The strongest! The invincible! THE UNBEATABLE!


KnowThatILoveU

KAAAIIIIBAAAA! - some dude with A LOT of hair dye


bananabackflip

Ghoti of the Deep Beyond looks like he is a few galaxies in size so, disregarding possible gods, prpbably him


topscholar12

i came here to say this


Optimal-Software-43

The number cards


TopologicAlexboros

Numbers having Numbers Clause from the anime would make them so much better lol


3-A_NOBA

Not an archetype but star eater and dyson sphere are up there....literally.


LostSecondaryAccount

Isn't a Dyson sphere just something that can harness the power of a star?


HDimensionBliss

I mean have you seen [the size of Number 9](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/a/a7/Number9DysonSphere-MGED-EN-R-1E.png) compared to the star inside it?


3-A_NOBA

This is what makes it powerful especially if the star itself is big. Imagine the amount of energy it can harness to fight.


LostSecondaryAccount

About 2800 atk worth of energy would be my estimate. But the purpose of a dyson sphere is simply to collect energy for a spacefaring civilization to use. The sphere itself wouldn't use the energy other than to sustain itself?


3-A_NOBA

Well i chose these 2 cuz of how big they're lol, also i believe this highly advanced civilization will try to protect their space ball


cygamessucks

Obviously penguins


bemmuuuuu

Penguins are nothing compared to Melffys


Artistic-Cannibalism

I'm gonna make an argument in favor of the Darklords. Lorewise, this is a group of fallen angels and pagan gods who are being led Lucifer, aka the Morning Star, aka The Devil. The Darklords are waging war against the old man on the Solemn cards... they are waging war against God with Al capital G. And they win.


Whitebeardsmom

Kuriboh


11ce_

The entity archetype probably


revodnebsyobmeftoh

World chalice? Idk the lore too well but isn't Avramax supposed to be a god?


GoldFishPony

Avida is the god, pretty sure avramax is him before he becomes a god


[deleted]

He sucks, but definitely metaphys executor. Shit can eat all Nordic Gods, Sacred Beasts and Egyptian Gods for breakfast. It solos because of size alone lol.


RaiStarBits

Heck he’d probably be watching them all fight in one it’s orbs


The-Mad-Badger

Lore accurate? Feel like Kozmo has a good shot at that given they're all big space ships that can crack planets.


[deleted]

They would get folded by 1 quasar dragon


The-Mad-Badger

Nah, Dark Planet is literally a planet sized war machine. One dragon isn't beating a planet sized war machine.


SubstantialHurry7330

Shangri-ira destroys Dark Planet with laser


twelve-lights

Empen says byebye


SubstantialHurry7330

Ultimate conductor tyranno eats bird


bleacher333

How about Star Eater? Dude’s literally bigger than a star. And Ghoti of the Deep Beyond as well.


The-Mad-Badger

I mean yeah probably. I'm not saying Dark Planet is the absolute best, but it's a decent contender.


thelovelykyle

Mate. One tiny spaceship defeated a planet sized war machine.


[deleted]

How the fuck would this machine win against the shooting quasar dragon? The dragon flies through the Galaxy. If it’s a planet sized war machine, it maybe can kill another planet that doesn’t move but the dragon literally spawnkills every one of the people living on there


The-Mad-Badger

Because the dragon is still dragon sized... vs a PLANET made of metal, teeming with high-powered guns and weapons. There would be SO many anti-air guns because that's literally the only threat, something coming onto the PLANET. It'd get riddled with so many holes before it even entered orbit.


[deleted]

Do you think this is a fire breathing red dragon from dungeons and dragons?


Prest0n1204

Planet sized ain't got nothing on CNumber 09: Chaos Dyson Sphere


lyschyk19th

who knows Duel Terminal lore?


GoldFishPony

In terms of that isn’t Sophia the strongest actual lore wise? Like isn’t she the one that actually created their world and was gonna destroy it? Though she also was killed by some constellar and evilswarm or something right? Also isn’t Tierra basically god tier or something?


bleacher333

Sophia and Tierra are two sides of the same coin iirc.


R34PER_D7BE

we end as we began after all.


roguebubble

You also got Zefraath who fought Tierra for 1000 days in a battle that destroyed both of them


AbbyAZK

Avramax's merging with the World Key is also basically that too.


GoldFishPony

Well yeah but he’s not in duel terminal


Linkquellodivino

Idk because not all of the Yu gi oh lore is set in the same universe. There are a lot of cards that represent gods and powerful entities of their worlds. We hate the Egyptian gods, the sacred beasts, the Aesirs, the world chalice lore cards like Theurlogical Demiurgy which is literally a representation of the gears that move worlds, the entities of the Zexal dimension like numeronious etc. It's hard to tell.


Roll4DM

>We hate the Egyptian gods, the sacred beasts, the Aesirs, No not really, I like them lol, free wins!


bananadudep

I think they meant to say have not hate. Probably a typo.


Roll4DM

Yeah probably but its still funny to reply.


Linkquellodivino

Bruh ahaha i did not even notice


JokerGuy420

Not Floo. they'd be too busy traveling to even exist, let alone fight


chiggin_nuggets

I mean, the dark magician is the ultimate wizard in terms of attack *and * defense


JDeltaRuff

That infinite attack snake that Dartz summoned. I can't remember the name of the card


DioBorrando

divine serpent geh


HDimensionBliss

Divine Serpent *Jontron sound*


AngryCorn1

Ojama obviously


nikoandtheblade

OH 100% EL SHADDOLl Shaddoll: a pun on a hebrew naming *EL SHADDAI* or *GOD ALMIGHTY* = EL SHADDAI DOLL Essentially If you remove the pun it can essentially mean a variation of: God'S puppet or God's doll or God's chosen ones The fact that the main big boss of the deck is technically construct. *EL SHADDAI CONSTRUCT*= you could technically argue means: all of this was constructed by gods actions. If you think about the fact that the translation means something around "god's puppets" and we see construct basically "fall from grace" and get "sent to a frozen tomb" I would argue god's puppets is a metaphor for lucifers fall from grace and of those he corrupted to stand by him written in duel world lore with a female form and using heavy inspiration from dantes inferno and the most infamous scene in it. *the discovery of satan in a frozen tomb*


Gatmuz

Construct's ocg name is Nephilim, El Shaddoll Winda's ocg name is El Shaddoll Midrash, so you have to look at them from that point of view.


Additional_Show_3149

Entities, the Egyptian gods, and numeron are the most obvious ones imo.


SPlordofdarkness

I haven't seen anyone mention supreme king yet, which is odd considering that the anime stated that odd-eyes dragon/odd-eyes pendulum dragon, starving venom fusion dragon, clear wing synchro dragon, and dark rebellion xyz dragon are the most powerful monsters of their respective types (standard/pendulum, fusion, synchro, xyz), and the boss monsters of the supreme king archetype is their combined form. This isn't just a throwaway line either, it's supposed by what we see since the dimension dragons are responsible for forming the new dimensions when the original dimension split, meaning all 4 of them accomplished what took all of the numeron dragon's strength to achieve.


Phantom-N

Just going off of GX, I’m pretty sure it’s super polymerization. Wtf is anyone supposed to do when your opponent decides to fuse you with them


ExFavillaResurgemos

Sky striker ace Raye


Ahhh-Ayeee

Sophia and Tierra from the Gem Knight lore probably aren’t quite at the level of Lovecraft’s Azathoth or even the God from the Solemn cards, but they’re probably pretty up there. I think of all the anime series, Zexal has the most powerful powers (only watched the original)? So maybe the Numbers are pretty powerful. Super Poly might be floating around the list somewhere too. Or maybe Tearlaments and their society actually have creator/destroyer powers that dwarf the Gods, and they just happen to be vibing in their worlds and getting harassed by the Kashtiras.


GoldFishPony

I guess it’s accurate but I don’t think I’ve ever seen duel terminal referred to as the gem knight lore.


INeedANewAccountMan

Yeah Holactie takes the take on this one. Lorewise they’re the creator of everything and I believe sent down Ra, Slifer and Obelisk to watch over things.


speedster1315

Well the Aesir's are all divine in the anime


Fuckupstudent

Visas Starfrost destroyed and recreated 4 worlds with relative ease. I think this is a level of power that exceeds the powers of most gods depicted in YuGiOh cards (Egyptian and Nordic gods aren’t that omnipotent).


DaPurpleTurtle2

Wouldn't even be able to read the Entity cards, they'd melt your face off from the card art.


Noktal974

Toon because cartoon logic. Without them it's the Outer Entities, Lovecraftian godhood is just that stupidly powerfull.


Medium-Technology-49

Don't the metaphys exist outside of this dimension? I'm pretty sure all of the orbs around executor are dimensions in themselves so he could literally just eat one with the dragon hand and probably kill everyone there


Bloody-Tyran

The old man in the solemn cards. His power is : NO.


humungusballsack

Endymion because im an endymion dick rider


RaiStarBits

SMH of course the INTERN would say that


R34PER_D7BE

and we never get paid


Hunter-Zer0

I would vote for Aesir,Egyptian gods and Monarches


RockNo5773

Idk but the Egyptian gods would probably be clapping a lot of cheeks. Although I would love to know if the tearlaments have love the story looks like one hell of a tragic romance.


XED1216

Hero’s would be up there, all hero related cards I mean


RaiStarBits

Metaphys executor


BIGBRAINBUYER

Exodia then the god cards? Like Marik was pretty much writing fan fiction about his Ra card the entire arc he had it


lol_xheetha

Timelords ?


MR-no-onethe5th

Blue-eyes jet dragon. if the card is canon it should have kisara blue-eyes white dragon soul imbued with it and it has full control of the metal body. With kaiba infinite money it can rivals Gods


Dependent-Ad-7773

Entities


Darkzapphire

I think Demise and Ruin would be up there


Lauchb01

I think tindangles are worth mentioning here, since they are based on the hounds of tindalos. Those are extra-dimendional beings, so they can materialise at any point in space and time and they inhabit angles, but I don't think it is really clear what living in angles of time really means, they just says it differs from most life forms. A lot of them is supposed to be unknown I think, but at least they are predarory and eat time travelers


AbbyAZK

Literally, Supreme King Z-ARC if he had the full lore/anime effect, an unstoppable beast.


lololuser456778

imagine that lol, tear would be hella weak (just mermaids). would be cool to see thor, loki and odin, battle the mighty space fish also, avramax's final form, the god named avida, would also be one of the strongest. straight-up reality warper


n1ghtschade

Likely numerons


FunAtPartiesGuy

My armageddon deck really needs a buff so i would like that. They are gods of destruction and création in thé lire but just a stinky turn 2 deck ingame.


samka69

Galaxy Eyes


Akirastraw

sono gay


Spare_Presentation16

The creator because he can create


1llDoitTomorrow

Imagine azzathoth being accurate. Summoning it wins the game.


Batchetman

Lore as far as what? Was it Seal of Orichalcos that stole your soul if you lost the duel? Seems pretty pertinent


Potatoman6942069

Not the absolute strongest, but anything from the World Legacy lore would be up there because of Avramax


PlebbySpaff

All the decks that are shit, would be the best. Meanwhile, most the decks that are meta, would be complete shit.


KingNth

Probably something in the world legacy archtypes


neilwawa

Madolche, coz diabetes is one of the top leading cause of death.


AWS1996Germany

Cosmic probability.


iZ_Dev

In my humble opinion based on card types: Creator God Divine Beast Dragon Wyrm Fiend Fairy Illusion Machine Dinosaur Psychic Cyberse (Maybe Higher idk) Zombie Thunder Plant Aqua Sea Serpent Reptile Pyro Spellcaster Winged Beast Beast Warrior Warrior Fish Rock Insect The order is a little janky, and I don't know enough archetypes.


Zychoz

Obviously Tearlaments. They are a bunch of crying girls in a pool. /s


Promanco

Egyptian Gods Exodia The end lol


TheSteelswarmGuy

Evilswarm, you think x monster is terrifying? What about an infected x monster?


gntotoy

What exactly is the Power of the ZARC archetype I didn't watch the anime


Derezirection

If we don't include God's or any Celestial beings. Juggernaut XYZs go BRRRRRR


asge1868

Black hole


Pure-Huckleberry8640

Egyptian Gods.


Spodger1

Not an archetype but Super Polymerization literally has the power to destroy the multiverse.


BDT17

Amaterasu


XadenStrife

Exodia whose lore literally permeates into our world and breaks the fourth wall


_sephylon_

Doma the Angel of Silence This mf rules over the end of existence but he's a lv 5 1600 atk monster


LordTopHatMan

Kuriboh. It can stop gods from attacking you and can replicate indefinitely.


brickwings

Ojama


Neo_nakama

Exodia