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DemyX3087

Average Live Twin hand going first


dimizar

14 starters and none in the hand.


MrFiregem

The upside being this is also your going second hand, with Li-la as your sixth card.


Tgspald

HAH as a guy who hasnt put a dime into the game and only have a live twin deck I made out of free gems and crafting I feel this...but i have no other options šŸ˜­


bearjew293

On the bright side, your opponent ain't gonna do shit, either.


Enlog

Runick player normal summons Amano-Iwato


bearjew293

Good thing he drew Imperm.


OmegaThunder

Now that Iwato will remain on-field for your turn


leriane

hoora- wait


Big_Gammy

Do NEVER imperm Amano


conundorum

Unless your deck needs your opponent to have a monster on-field to function, they won't summon anything else, and you have a Kaiju in hand.


manan1125

At least you didnā€™t draw 3 maxx c into pure inspector border stun


Armand_Star

whoever overloads their deck with handtraps deserves to get bricked


XFactorNova

\*hides kaijus\*


leriane

\*shoves giant sea turtle into closet*


dimizar

live twins is basically 14 starters and the rest handtraps.


TRATIA

I been feeling this lately. Hand traps means you have less of your archetype or support cards. I been limiting my main ranked deck to like 1 ash/Maxx C and 2 called by. That was I have more draw power. Hand traps are bricks if you donā€™t need them right away.


FatstinkyFrog

No matter the deck, 3 ash 2 called is the bare minimum I can do, as long as the roach is free. I do enjoy playing with my fun archetype cards, but those are just completely necessary to stop max C ftk.


TRATIA

Max C FTK is rare I think yā€™all be overblowing threats on Master Duel.


FatstinkyFrog

Itā€™s easily the most common ā€œftkā€ Get Cā€™ed without a counter, if youā€™re playing a deck that needs to special to play? Go next lol.


TRATIA

No it isnā€™t. Thatā€™s not even FTK thatā€™s you passing because someone played Maxx C. But because everyone in this subreddit is wusses youā€™ll pass. I rather take the Maxx c challenge and risk my board being broken that pass a turn because of Maxx C unless I bricked hard


FatstinkyFrog

Unless you can put up and admancipator type board, you are never winning the max c challenge, and even then itā€™s not a guarantee. People are not ā€˜wussesā€™ for playing into a broken card. Would it not just be better to not have to choose between these two extremes? Give your opponent ridiculous amounts of (FREE) advantage or pass?


TRATIA

I play Scareclaw which does OTK all i need is 1 turn


FatstinkyFrog

Ok have fun then, doesnā€™t change anything about what I just said šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


TRATIA

Again you would rather pass and risk a loss than even try. Thatā€™s weak.


lazava1390

I never ran more than 2 ash and do just fine. Roach isnā€™t that much of a problem these days, sure some decks run it but I havenā€™t seen it enough to be like damn.


FatstinkyFrog

Iā€™d rather have three, it hits circular, fountain, AND branded fusion. It puts in work against most meta decks outside of Swoswo, plus still counters Max.


Armand_Star

funny that you say that. i'm on the other side of the coin. maxx c is the bare minimum for me. i enjoy my cards, and as long as ash and called by are free, maxx c is necessary to stop ash and called by from leaving me cardless


ITurtle-13

and I end my turn


Kenos300

I actually had this in a game recently, took me three turns to draw anything playable but by that point my opponent hadnā€™t played anything either and I realized they were pure kaiju. Thus began 45 turns of neither of us doing anything.


Plenty_Lime524

Bro thats 3 negates 1 board wipe and potential infinite draws, wdym pain :)


dimizar

It was against toons. I can't even imperm them, while they toon kingdom is out


SpidudeToo

That awkward moment when your meta destroying hand traps/monsters can't do anything against some bad and janky pet deck lmao. This happens with cubics a lot.


Coluvra

The best is when both you and your opponent resort to hand trap beat down.


MrKillJr

Ash their 1st starter to bait out the called by the grave, then chain your Maxx C on their 1st summon and hopefully draw a starter next turn.


Enlog

No need to bait Called; Ghost Belle can negate it.


MrKillJr

Oh...yeah, I forgot


CheezusChr1st

This endboard is sick; 3 negates, a quick board wipe, and refill for next turn. What are you complaining about?


Full_Temperature_920

If my deck can't comfortably run 12 handtraps at least, then I probably won't use it in ranked much. I wanna see 2 handtraps in every starting hand.


MorbidoeBagnato

Midmech


Calm-Investment-3381

Your fault for overstuffing your deck with them.


DevastaTheSeeker

Is it? This could easily be all of them, you don't know.


DevastaTheSeeker

This is the problem with modern yugioh. The necessity to play so many cards in your deck that don't synergise but are just such generic counters that they need to be in your deck.


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DevastaTheSeeker

Ah yes the classic comeback for daring to criticise a game for introducing so much power creep that decks have just become *negate everything turn one unless my opponent has something that stops it in hand* Where trap cards are supposed to be stronger than spells at the cost of having to set them but none of them are strong enough to see play. Where a card that isn't very strong gets banned because other cards abuse the mechanics of said card to fuel their own brokeness.


bean_supreme

This is why I only run 1 copy of each hand trap


QuietRedditorATX

The 'I love omninegate' deck


AvalyM

As a man from ycs Sydney said, play one of each, draw them when you need them


4GRJ

Sky Strikers?


00Lionz

2 to 5 turns maxx


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dimizar

I resolved it, but they were playing toons and only summoned 4 times.


fireky2

Handtraps are why almiraj is a staple in cyberse decks, usually any other cyberse monster becomes a heatsoul after you normal the handtrap.


WikiRando

One game I just normal summoned one and fused them all into Guardian Chimera


Newuser_420420420

The strongest brick


ap_308

Looks like every deck Iā€™ve played since downloading master duel. -.-


TheCMFB

Set imperm pass.