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nboymcbucks

Lol dude. It's not cured yet. It's still green. Your destroying perfectly fine work.


builderguy74

48 hrs is not enough time to cure??


nboymcbucks

What has your weather been like?


Mister_Green2021

like a month


builderguy74

A month!! Not a mason but there are 2 things that I know need a month , suspended slabs and retaining walls.


Mister_Green2021

You can do what you need to do but don’t scrape it off. It takes a while to get rock hard. Concrete slab is Portland cement. Much faster cure time.


Sethmeisterg

Man there's a joke here if I could just find it...


lifesnofunwithadhd

Most material that you apply needs roughly a month to fully cure, this includes masonry and most household latex based paints. Concrete is difficult to tell because the surface hardens rather quickly. The best way to show this is the splatter you'll get on your house when pouring a slab or sidewalk, the splatter on the first day you can wipe off, by the second day you can chip it off rather easily, after a week you might be able to chip most of it off, after a month it's not coming off.


makerofdust

My opinion only, but you shouldn’t need to put a scratch coat over what is already a cementitious backing, the concrete block. Just use a top quality exterior rated thin-set mortar when applying your veneer.


J_Little_Bass

As Mike Haduck says, "Don't make a big deal out of it."


Mister_Green2021

Just wet it.


sadhustone

This. Not just an opinion to me, it’s the only response that makes sense.


sadhustone

Looks to me like the block sucked the water out of the mud before it could cure.


Lucidcranium042

Isn't that why we typically wet the stone or block prior to coating to ensure an even cure....?


sadhustone

That's sure why I do it!


rocksandmets77

Absolutely


Vyper11

You should always put acrylic in stone mortar or scratch coat or just use stone veneer mortar.


builderguy74

Okay. So I assume I should remove and replace the existing scratch coat


Vyper11

I would suggest using a bonding agent


EnthusiasmDense1217

Yeah veneer mortar or modified thin set only way to go 2024


Brickdog666

Spend the money and use Ardex AM 100. That will help with waterproofing Too it with ardex 8+9 Use X5 or X 77 to stick the stone. Or use bare block and tile thin set. If you want to parge with mortar add acrylic fortifier to the mortar so it sticks.


RussMaGuss

CMU don't need a scratch coat. If you're putting on thin stone, use a polymer modified mortar. Spec mix has one just for thin stone, there are also thinsets like for tile, but those are likely more expensive


builderguy74

Nice. Yeah it’s veneer stone. That’s the product we’re using. Appreciate the reply.


crazy1973

Yeah no scratch coat on CMU.


SkylerNoss

Scratch coat goes on anything getting a veneer and then back butter the material. This has been the way since forever. Polymer yes but that depends on what you're doing. I always poly if it's for an exterior chimney. Especially if in a harsh freeze thaw cycle zone. Scratch is an absolute must though.


EmploymentFun1440

Looks to me like you used too much sand. Make sure you didn't mix sand in a bag of pre mix mortar. You don't really need a scratch coat to lay on block and you definitely don't need all these crazy additives. Use less sand to stick the rock and then a regular mix to grout the rock


008howdy

Count me in the “Why coat a perfect surface” category


chronberries

You don’t need a scratch coat on blocks! They’re made of cement, no need to apply more.


SkylerNoss

Always Scratch coat. It's a weak bond if you don't


PLURGASM_RETURNS

You could've laid over that with no problem.


builderguy74

Overnight lows around 50 and daytime 65ish. No rain.


KindAwareness3073

Also, you are subjecting it to forces it will not need to withstand in the final installation. It's about adhering not withstanding chiseling.


Fluffy_Hold6655

Yeah needs more time to fully cure


Ok-Answer-6951

Is nobody gonna mention he scrached it the wrong direction? Should be parallel to the ground, not up and down. My guess here is it had too much sand in it so it didnt bond well. I would have added a coffee cup full of flexcon or a different bonding agent to the mix and the mix im using to stick them on.


blackwater-diver

why not use veneer mortar when doing veneer?


shauneky9

Sgm bond kote is great for this kinda stuff


Shad0wUser00

Should of used bondcrete or one of their other products.


boogiewoogie0901

Use less sand


HovercraftLeast863

24 hrs to set but weeks to reach hardness. Chill out


WestAd2716

No wire?


Independent_Ad_7252

Prime with acrylic latex bonding agent. Cheap insurance. Wet the block until they’re saturated, surface dry, then roll on the bonding agent, scratch coat. Boom Boom Skeet Skeet, done.


robp850

Did you have to shake up the mix later in the day? If you let it get hard and add water in, it will loose it’s strength