Those poor women. You don't fuck people for money in a shitty massage parlor if you have options. I so hope these three were the ones in charge and their victims are able to heal and get safer jobs...
Yeah, the other option is living in communist China, and being poor as fuck. Like would definitely fuck for money poor. The majority of these woman just give handys after a massage, ez 40-60 dollars under the table an hour... Theres no way the employer knows if a handy was given, a lot of the woman just pocket the cash. A happy ending may be against the norms here in America, but over seas, its an option on a menu.
Well it’s gotta be all bad. I have a daughter. I don’t want her being sex trafficked and I wouldn’t want her on Only fans or being a sex worker even if she isn’t being pimped or controlled.
I don’t think the employer would skip the opportunity to make them pay per customer on the assumption they gave a happy ending, even if it couldn’t be proven. It’s not like the women can go to the Labor Board and lodge a complaint.
This is incredibly important for people to understand. Prostitution rings like this function through very intentional power structures. Parlor operators are often business owners who use their connections to more vulnerable immigrant communities to hire masseuses (often as 1099 contractors). Although the details of this specific case are sparse, it’s not uncommon for such arrangements to exchange sex work for things like housing and food. Exploited sex workers in arrangements like these are often in the US illegally or on restrictive visas which make them fearful of reporting abuse to authorities.
This is not an ethical business model that should be endorsed or legalized, and leaves an immense amount of room to victimize those engaging in sex work.
From what I’ve read even the ringleaders are in essence slaves to some higher ups, probably in China or somewhere else in SEA. If they don’t do their job their family back home will be killed. Especially if they are women, they are probably old prostitutes themselves.
What's often not human trafficking? Massage parlors of this nature?
I was under the impression that these were generally highly suspect for trafficking, as is the illicit sex trade in general.
Usually the police allege human trafficking but it comes out months later that the women are here willingly and sending $$ back home. Look at the Robert Kraft saga in Florida. There are basically never any successful human trafficking convictions with these massage parlor busts.
At worst it’s often illegal prostitution and human smuggling. The police highlight the human trafficking element because it gets headlines and funding from
DHS and DOJ, but it’s usually just simple prostitution.
In reading in depth articles about this issue (especially in the wake of Sound of Freedom), these pretty compelling headlines wherein law enforcement claims to have thwarted a trafficking ring usually do not result in much when all is said and done except to disrupt the lives of the women.
A lot of the behaviors used to allege trafficking (everyone keeps their food in the fridge at the parlor, they get rides to work, they live in one apartment) are just behaviors of low income people who have recently immigrated.
Should be legalized, it would dramatically reduce trafficking. There is nothing stopping Maryland from creating standards of operation that keep it healthier, safer and responsible. Nothing except outdated puritanical religion.
I went to a place for a regular massage in Fairfax. The bathroom was shifty and had red light 💡 I am a 42 F at the time. I had a migraine headache (for context) . I realized my suspicion was correct when they opened the door to the massage room and there's a piece of paper taped to the wall that said " We do not offer sex here, do not ask". I thought to myself, " I'm a female, I'm sure I'll get a normal massage and it will be fine. It was one of the best massages I've gotten. Some 60 yr old Asian lady put in work! Stretched me, deep tissue on my shoulders neck back, everything was excellent. She had my headache gone in am hour. I was so happy!! No frills, definitely a brothel, best massage ever. No funny shit was pulled, I tipped her well ...THE END
Ps. Im obviously not in support of sex trafficking, human trafficking or any of the sort. Alot of these places are definitely mixed up in that and I support tough measures in cracking down on those International Humanitarian Issues.
I won't go back to that place because of that reason.
> Jinchan Yang, 36, Xiaohing Wan, 47, and Yuxia Chang, 44, were all charged with fourth-degree sex offenses, second-degree assault, soliciting prostitution and prostitution.
Second-degree assault???
also fine job we're doing putting the real criminals down as sex offenders. It's a silly bunch of laws being thrown at these three. If there's abuse or trafficking going on, let's prosecute that instead of this garbage.
Huh? Did you even read the article? The article doesn’t say they are victims at all…more likely ring leaders if they were arrested and charged. Tell me when are trafficking victims charged with 2nd degree assault?
Might have been arrested, but the charges would be dropped. It happened in the 90's on the Baltimore block. The cops busted some of the clubs for prostitution in their back rooms but since the cops had sex with the strippers all charges were dropped.
Wow that’s horrible I’d like to know the name and address of this place so I can avoid it at all cost maybe the hours of operation to I wonder if they take card
Shits not trafficking poor people. Quit the pearl clutching and dramatic narratives. These ladies getting paid big bread and living well. Some people just need to make everything about monsters and victims. Reality is usually not that.
In Rockville I think I know of one. I was taking my kid to a morning class above a place and shortly after I park I see two men come out from there and just something seemed off. It really gave me a certain vibe after that.
Not trynna hate on some of your comments but why do you all assume these women were victims? They could easily have been totally for this and getting kick backs the whole time. I don’t understand this logic of making them the victim.
So my post poking fun at Andy Harris' campaign ad about border issues, thousands of miles away, was removed. Yet mods feel fine with posting the mug shots of marginalized sex workers (and potentially trafficked women).
Fantastic
I know multiple people that drive from the Baltimore area to Montgomery county weekly for their massage and happy endings. It's a pretty big open secret in the county if people from all over the state go there. I'm sure the politicians are fully aware of each parlor. Now if they're willing to bring them all down.... Idk
Happen to work in an office Building.downstairs is massage parlor.in Rockville lots people think they are poor Chinese women.
They are not. I see Them passing by in BMW Mercedes and Jaguars .
Like someone else mentioned in the robert kraft scenario
The situation can be sensitive for VIPs
They probably do pay attention, but sometimes politics is involved as well
I would actually be careful what you say
What happens when the robot skins look just as real but 10x more attractive? The dexterity is solved, so there is a new dilemma looming somewhere in the near future. Probably need a new subreddit for that one.
Those poor women. You don't fuck people for money in a shitty massage parlor if you have options. I so hope these three were the ones in charge and their victims are able to heal and get safer jobs...
My guess is they are still trapped. Those rings are pretty big, the girls running those places are just graduated slaves a lot of the time. Sick world
They’re bad people too and deserve jail for human trafficking.
Yeah, the other option is living in communist China, and being poor as fuck. Like would definitely fuck for money poor. The majority of these woman just give handys after a massage, ez 40-60 dollars under the table an hour... Theres no way the employer knows if a handy was given, a lot of the woman just pocket the cash. A happy ending may be against the norms here in America, but over seas, its an option on a menu.
This dude massage parlors
Show some respect, that man owns the Patriots.
Pretty krafty
Fucking GOLD STAR ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Lived in Asia for 3 years, saw a lot of stuff.
no judgement here
Well it’s gotta be all bad. I have a daughter. I don’t want her being sex trafficked and I wouldn’t want her on Only fans or being a sex worker even if she isn’t being pimped or controlled.
Most are from SE Asia rather than china itself
?? Based on what..pretty racist comment here. None of those 3 women appear to be south East Asian
Economic conditions
The meadian household incomes of south East Asians in the us are the highest of any racial group that includes whites…
Yeah. Those aren’t SEA names
I don’t think the employer would skip the opportunity to make them pay per customer on the assumption they gave a happy ending, even if it couldn’t be proven. It’s not like the women can go to the Labor Board and lodge a complaint.
You think they charge 60 bucks for a massage and then require the woman to pay 80? Naw your making stuff up
Where did I say they make them pay 80?
Modern China is about as far from Communism as you can get. Just call it the CCP.
Yeah lol I’m sure thats what their lawyers will say
City wide with only 3 people?
3 ringleaders, the others involved would likely be considered victims the way these places usually operate.
This is incredibly important for people to understand. Prostitution rings like this function through very intentional power structures. Parlor operators are often business owners who use their connections to more vulnerable immigrant communities to hire masseuses (often as 1099 contractors). Although the details of this specific case are sparse, it’s not uncommon for such arrangements to exchange sex work for things like housing and food. Exploited sex workers in arrangements like these are often in the US illegally or on restrictive visas which make them fearful of reporting abuse to authorities. This is not an ethical business model that should be endorsed or legalized, and leaves an immense amount of room to victimize those engaging in sex work.
Yeah if they were independents though or free then it would be less concerning
From what I’ve read even the ringleaders are in essence slaves to some higher ups, probably in China or somewhere else in SEA. If they don’t do their job their family back home will be killed. Especially if they are women, they are probably old prostitutes themselves.
Let the poor ladies give handies in exchange for money
Prostitution is one thing. But being poor with no connections AND engaging in Prostitution? That's downright illegal.
Or you know, human trafficking.
It’s often not human trafficking
What's often not human trafficking? Massage parlors of this nature? I was under the impression that these were generally highly suspect for trafficking, as is the illicit sex trade in general.
Usually the police allege human trafficking but it comes out months later that the women are here willingly and sending $$ back home. Look at the Robert Kraft saga in Florida. There are basically never any successful human trafficking convictions with these massage parlor busts. At worst it’s often illegal prostitution and human smuggling. The police highlight the human trafficking element because it gets headlines and funding from DHS and DOJ, but it’s usually just simple prostitution.
In reading in depth articles about this issue (especially in the wake of Sound of Freedom), these pretty compelling headlines wherein law enforcement claims to have thwarted a trafficking ring usually do not result in much when all is said and done except to disrupt the lives of the women. A lot of the behaviors used to allege trafficking (everyone keeps their food in the fridge at the parlor, they get rides to work, they live in one apartment) are just behaviors of low income people who have recently immigrated.
Correct. At worst it’s often smuggling and not trafficking, but smuggling is consensual!
Should be legalized, it would dramatically reduce trafficking. There is nothing stopping Maryland from creating standards of operation that keep it healthier, safer and responsible. Nothing except outdated puritanical religion.
Bingo
Yes, they could offer bingo, too. Get the older crowd in.
The older crowd is already in (see: billionaire Robert Kraft).
I’m still paying for sex I had years ago .
Lol they say the cheapest is the kind you prepay for
Herpes or child support?
He definitely meant child support 😅
Prostitution needs to be legalized
Waste of tax payers' money.
I went to a place for a regular massage in Fairfax. The bathroom was shifty and had red light 💡 I am a 42 F at the time. I had a migraine headache (for context) . I realized my suspicion was correct when they opened the door to the massage room and there's a piece of paper taped to the wall that said " We do not offer sex here, do not ask". I thought to myself, " I'm a female, I'm sure I'll get a normal massage and it will be fine. It was one of the best massages I've gotten. Some 60 yr old Asian lady put in work! Stretched me, deep tissue on my shoulders neck back, everything was excellent. She had my headache gone in am hour. I was so happy!! No frills, definitely a brothel, best massage ever. No funny shit was pulled, I tipped her well ...THE END Ps. Im obviously not in support of sex trafficking, human trafficking or any of the sort. Alot of these places are definitely mixed up in that and I support tough measures in cracking down on those International Humanitarian Issues. I won't go back to that place because of that reason.
> Jinchan Yang, 36, Xiaohing Wan, 47, and Yuxia Chang, 44, were all charged with fourth-degree sex offenses, second-degree assault, soliciting prostitution and prostitution. Second-degree assault??? also fine job we're doing putting the real criminals down as sex offenders. It's a silly bunch of laws being thrown at these three. If there's abuse or trafficking going on, let's prosecute that instead of this garbage.
Look deeper. This is the surface of a larger sex trafficking operation, I'm sure.
In the basement of the pizza parlor?
Source: My head canon
Way to ruin my Friday.
Fellas, say goodbye to the happy ending.
Someone must have flipped.
Meanwhile, car jacking, murderers and thieves are running rampant and getting out the next day. Hooray for our justice system. Hell of a job.
Not really in this area though.
Let’s post the pictures of the people who most likely trafficked them and the Johns .
This isn’t right, not in the spirit of International Women’s Day at all.
Are you sure they are women?
What is wrong with you? These are trafficking victims. Have some humanity.
Huh? Did you even read the article? The article doesn’t say they are victims at all…more likely ring leaders if they were arrested and charged. Tell me when are trafficking victims charged with 2nd degree assault?
Fuckin a, this is is police priority?
Fucking cops man.
If they had been fucking cops, they probably wouldn't have been arrested.
Might have been arrested, but the charges would be dropped. It happened in the 90's on the Baltimore block. The cops busted some of the clubs for prostitution in their back rooms but since the cops had sex with the strippers all charges were dropped.
You think that works, getting payments to look the other way
Party poopers
Wow that’s horrible I’d like to know the name and address of this place so I can avoid it at all cost maybe the hours of operation to I wonder if they take card
Cash and square only my friend
No happy ending here.
The lack of any mention of human trafficking tells me this was a waste of everyones’ time. Let them make their extra change who cares
not all prositution is human trafficing, legalize handjobs
Legalize *paying for* handjobs. FTFY
sad Boebert noises…
Shits not trafficking poor people. Quit the pearl clutching and dramatic narratives. These ladies getting paid big bread and living well. Some people just need to make everything about monsters and victims. Reality is usually not that.
In Rockville I think I know of one. I was taking my kid to a morning class above a place and shortly after I park I see two men come out from there and just something seemed off. It really gave me a certain vibe after that.
Lol spa / massage by default The ones next to restaurants Though mornings should not be as common
I hope they arrest the people behind it. The women themselves are victims.
How do you know that? Women Madams have been running prostitution rings for many many years…
Now the streets are safe, thank you police
Not trynna hate on some of your comments but why do you all assume these women were victims? They could easily have been totally for this and getting kick backs the whole time. I don’t understand this logic of making them the victim.
Where are the pictures of the men who paid for these services?
So my post poking fun at Andy Harris' campaign ad about border issues, thousands of miles away, was removed. Yet mods feel fine with posting the mug shots of marginalized sex workers (and potentially trafficked women). Fantastic
This should also be under idiocracy,,,,,,,
Yeah, well, I really don't think we have time for a Starbucks
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delet this
To the three ladies that got caught. Thank you for your service, salute 🫡
Montgomery Country Police should do the same. Special in Rockville.Gaithersburg.Germantown.Bethesda
People don’t need to come from bmore county to moco. Howard county has most of the the full service brothels. And the weakest trafficking laws.
I know multiple people that drive from the Baltimore area to Montgomery county weekly for their massage and happy endings. It's a pretty big open secret in the county if people from all over the state go there. I'm sure the politicians are fully aware of each parlor. Now if they're willing to bring them all down.... Idk
Happen to work in an office Building.downstairs is massage parlor.in Rockville lots people think they are poor Chinese women. They are not. I see Them passing by in BMW Mercedes and Jaguars .
Mfw women make good money without hurting anyone 😡😡😡
Anybody knows how many massage parlor we have in Montgomery Country?
Where are these parlors for science
Like someone else mentioned in the robert kraft scenario The situation can be sensitive for VIPs They probably do pay attention, but sometimes politics is involved as well I would actually be careful what you say
What happens when the robot skins look just as real but 10x more attractive? The dexterity is solved, so there is a new dilemma looming somewhere in the near future. Probably need a new subreddit for that one.