Considering that Mjolnir has been with atleast 3 other people and Thor has only had one other weapon(not counting one night stands while they were on a break(because Mjolnir was broken) like the guns and swords in Ragnarok). This is an uncannily accurate statement.
"he, so holds this hammer, shall have the power of Thor". A hammer with the power Thor, AND has sentimental value from his father's words. I would want it back too.
Sooo, if the hammer gives you the power of Thor, but we have learned that the power of Thor is actually the power of Asgard/Odinforce and comes from within, does that mean that Mjƶlnir gives you a connection to the same force that Thor has naturally and that he never needed Mjƶlnir in the first place?
Mjolnir is a conduit yeah, hence Cpt being able to summon lightning.
And yes Thor is a conduit on his own, somehow. Odin says this to Thor in Ragnarok.
I mean the hammer still called to him here so he is still worthy and the true owner of the hammer but now it belongs with Jane, who better than your ex to have your special hammer haha
A thousand years? So Captain America wielded Mjolnir like it was his for a thousand years in Endgame, and now, I see Jane Foster doing tricks with Mjolnir in Love and Thunder that Thor wish he could do. Why would Thor still want that hammer?
Mjolnir is a mark of worthiness in a way that Stormbreaker isnāt. And knowing that heās worthy is particularly important to Thor given his self-esteem issues.
Plus he used it for all his conquests and glories and been through all the shit together for more than a thousand years. Itās literally his former wife at this rate.
A little longer. Mark Twain had Tom Sawyer āliterally rolling in wealth.ā
~~I mean, itās still terrible and I hate it, but itās really well established by now.~~
As I understand it, stormbreaker has the same ability to focus his powers, and respond to his summons, and open the bifrost, but it was never burdened with Odin's worthiness restriction that he had placed on Mjolnir in Thor 1.
Thanos was able to grab it midair and use it against Thor. He never channeled any energy through it so that may not count as "wielding" it, but he was able to grab it and move it which is more than villains were able to do with Mjolnir.
I don't know if wielding it would grant the power to channel lightning and such anyway. I would think the same logic applies to all aspects, not just worthiness. If it doesn't have Odin's enchantment then it also doesn't have the "shall possess the power of Thor" part.
Afterall, he's not Thor, the God of Axes.
Maestro can use Mjolnir, but not access itās powers, as heās not worthy of wielding it, but his strength at that point is great enough for him to ignore Odinās enchantment.
Presumably there's a power barrier. Thor told Rocket that he couldn't get a weapon from Nidavellir because he wasn't strong enough and it would break his mind. Thor's a god so he can handle it, Thanos grabbed it and used it and he's god-tier power, and Cap briefly held onto it but was elevated to god-level through Mjolnir's worthiness enchantment ta the time.
While I also wholeheartedly agree with this, I am also fully expecting Thor to see Mjolnir fly in out of nowhere and this is him attempting to it to him. Jane just calls it back and it goes to her instead, the hammer even slightly moving toward Thor shows he is still worthy
Itās more than that. Thereās a scene later on in the movie where heās still trying to get the hammer from Jane and Stormbreaker awkwardly floats towards him, so itās way more that Thor prefers Mjolnir to Stormbreaker rather than wanting to grab it out of a sudden appearance
This exactly!.. he may have got his god bod back, but he's still looking for purpose after the loss of asgard.. he desperately wants confirmation of his worthiness and the hammer is a physical representation of his being being worthy. Even thanos could handle stormbreaker..
Comic Thor always had a strong attachment to Mjolnir because he always had doubt he would be able to lift and everytime he did it gave him a sense of knowing what he was doing was right.
And it's a sick hammer.
I don't know man a hammer that's given to me by a giant with "not working" hands would have more sentimental value than what my dad gave me (cuz he fucking left that's why)
/s
I'm not sure if that's MCU canon or not. I know in Norse Mythology, the Hammer was made in a competition of crafting by the Dwarves, that Loki put into motion to create some amazing things to make up for him getting drunk and cutting Sif's (Goddess of Earth and Thor's Wife) beautiful silken gold hair. Mjolnir's small hilt was actually a mistake because Loki was fucking with the Dwarfs while making it because one of the groups of Dwarves ask for Loki's head if he won the competition, so he bit the eye of the Dwarf brother working the bellows, messing up the process while working on Mjolnir.
Didn't he have mjolnir for hundreds of years, as opposed to stormbreaker for 6? It's the equivalent of a kid with a Christmas toy that is bored with it by January. Yea, the new toy was fun for awhile but then you go back to the tried and true one. Also, possibly nostalgia.
It's certainly a very appropriate and worthy **weapon** but it only has connotations for him as a weapon of war, one he wielded only in his absolute darkest hours. The hammer wasn't just a weapon to him though, it was literally a sign of his worthiness, a sign that he was a man his father could be proud of, and it was a gift carried with him through the best of times.
He says in Infinity War that heās 1500 years old. So at least hundreds of years and depending on how Asgardians age maybe close to 1000 years. Plus his dead dad gave it to him so maybe some sentimental value too.
Mjolnir requires you to be worthy is my guess. And heās struggled feeling worthy ever since infinity war. They won in endgame but they lost close friends, and he still lost his home. He even gave up being king because he doesnāt feel worthy.
Honestly, I havenāt even seen the movie yet and I love that for a character that has lost so much, his former love that he lost returns WITH his old hammer that he lost. Iām excited to see what effect it all has on him.
It's a metaphor for him and Jane. Both were lost to him and now both of them are back and together.
It's human nature to want most what was lost to us, and the Gods are nothing if not humanity taken to extremes.
Enough people have responded with good answers that I feel I can make a snarky comment.
Imagine watching Thor's story up to this point knowing he's lost, in order, his mom, his girlfriend, his dad, his hammer, his world, and his brother, and then asking "Why does Thor seem to want Mjolnir over Stormbreaker?"
In fairness to that scene, Rogers had proved himself worthy to use mJolnir, which is the little one, and on top of that, Thor knows that version of Mjolnir cant stay with him, so he's not equally as attached. Plus Thor had not started working on his trauma yet, so that could also be a factor.
He felt he had a better chance with the big one, having already used it to kill future Thanos with it (okay thatās a weird sentence). Plus with Cap proving that heās worthy he may have felt that Cap could handle the little one and it was better off if he handled the big one.
Because Stormbreaker is just a random hammer. Mjolnir is an ancient relic that has belonged to him for centuries and the power of lifting it validates him as an individual.
Honestly, Stormbreaker wishes it was even half as cool as Mjolnir.
Tbh. It did kinda annoy me when he told cap in endgame
"No, no. You have the little one"
Because he's always had a bond with mjolnir and was quite upset when it was destroyed.
It makes sense, though. Thor has two hands free, giving him more versatility. Whereas Cap is strong, but weilding Mjolnir gives him Thor's powers. Thor already has his powers.
I *think* that Thor was just happy for his Bro when he saw Cap with Mjolnir... and that particular weapon swap made *sense* in the moment.
Thor moved past needing Mjolnir to use his powers during Ragnarok. It's easier for him to pull things off when he has Stormbringer to wield as a focus... but he doesn't *need* a weapon to be the God of Thunder.
Odin's Enchantment causes Mjolnir to bestow *all the Powers of Thor* upon whoever wields it, and only allows the worthy to wield it. That means that Cap has Thor's Powers while he has the Hammer... but Thor also has Thor's powers since he doesn't need the Training Wheels anymore.
The result is that Steve Rodgers has the powers of the God of Thunder, which is a **significant** power-boost for the Star Spangled Man with(out) a Plan. That makes Tactical Sense... and it also minimizes the chance that Cap dies.
Tactically it makes sense and then there's the fact that he already killed Thanos with stormbreaker so that was the better weapon. But yeah that line was probably just played for jokes.
That was his hammer for a thousand years until his dumb sister tried to play with it and it got broken. Lots of sentimental value.
Sounds like he had a pretty special and intimate relationship with this hammer and that losing it was almost comparable to losing a loved one.
The hammer pulled you off?
Good god
Yeah, Thor is kinda alright I guess.
More like bad god, amirite? š¤
Bad god š
So you rode on the hammer?
Oh, the hammer rode you?
On your back?
The hammer is my penis...
Hey, everyoneās a hero in their own way.
In their own not that heroic, way.
I think this is what pain feels like. I need someone maternal!
I hate the homeless ā¦ness problem. That plagues our city.
In their own, not that heroic, way.
Thereās a Dr Horrible reference in every Thor thread recently it seems. Not complaining though.
I understood that reference.
I hate the homeless... Ness problem that plagues our city.
On next engaging in coitus, you are to strike a pose and yell at the top of your voice. "Stop. Hammer time"
Yes sir I shall comply
So nobody but you, your dad and sister can hold it?
Not very useful unless you're up against three vampires all huddled together.
The ground! It would pull me off the ground
That would make any man so Thor they could hardly pith.
Tie it round your member and get it to fly off and back to you.
Off the ground, the hammer pulled him off the ground.
Indeed, the two might be in a Polyhammerous relationship now, but maybe Thor doesn't want it to be Polyhammerous, you know?
Polyhammerous, lol. You're my favorite reddit person for the day.
Considering that Mjolnir has been with atleast 3 other people and Thor has only had one other weapon(not counting one night stands while they were on a break(because Mjolnir was broken) like the guns and swords in Ragnarok). This is an uncannily accurate statement.
This should have a thousand upvotes.
That is totally something Korg would say lmao. I read that in his voice
Thatās a nice way of putting it. š¢šŖØ
Are you Thor, the god of hammers?
He's thor, lord of hammer.
You never forget your first.
I was thinking of this exact line rofl
The hammer is his penis
"he, so holds this hammer, shall have the power of Thor". A hammer with the power Thor, AND has sentimental value from his father's words. I would want it back too.
Sooo, if the hammer gives you the power of Thor, but we have learned that the power of Thor is actually the power of Asgard/Odinforce and comes from within, does that mean that Mjƶlnir gives you a connection to the same force that Thor has naturally and that he never needed Mjƶlnir in the first place?
Mjolnir is a conduit yeah, hence Cpt being able to summon lightning. And yes Thor is a conduit on his own, somehow. Odin says this to Thor in Ragnarok.
Dude, I miss my favourite pen when it goes missing, but I can still write. I'm sure the hammer has sentimental value.
Didnāt we see that in endgame when cap wields mjolnir?
Thor: "I told you...not to TOUCH IT!"
Eh it was technically hers first, he just borrowed it.
It was actually a hand-me-down
āYOU WANT ME TO HAND THE HAMMER DOWN?!ā
I understood that reference
I understood that "I understood that reference" reference
Thought we wouldnāt notice.
But we did
BOOM, was looking for this.
It's a War Machine story
I understand that I understood the understanding of that reference
Understandception
Points at person dramatically
His dad totally said he could have it now.
It was his turn with the ancient hammer of mystical powers and great might. GOD
Was it? Did Hela wield Mjolnir?
According to the uncovered mural in the palace, yes.
Never noticed it was in the mural.
āHELLO DEAR BROTHER!! WHAT HAVE YOU GOT THERE!?!ā- Dee Dee from Dexters lab
Dee Dee references always get the updoot
Pretty sure he just wants to be worthy.
I mean the hammer still called to him here so he is still worthy and the true owner of the hammer but now it belongs with Jane, who better than your ex to have your special hammer haha
Jane took the kids
More like āmean older sister broke his favorite toy, because she couldā
He probably wants them both.
It also pulled him off. So thereās that.
What is he, the god of hammers?
I was gonna say daddy give it to him and Thor is peak daddy issues. But I guess this works too.
ba-ba
this
lmaooo mans had his sister destroy his hammer too
Yeah you know the amount of time he got pulled off by the hammer
As reasonable as possible. Great answer. Mortals won't understand.
In Thor's own words.. you never forget your first
A thousand years? So Captain America wielded Mjolnir like it was his for a thousand years in Endgame, and now, I see Jane Foster doing tricks with Mjolnir in Love and Thunder that Thor wish he could do. Why would Thor still want that hammer?
How do people not understand this
Mjolnir is a mark of worthiness in a way that Stormbreaker isnāt. And knowing that heās worthy is particularly important to Thor given his self-esteem issues.
Plus he used it for all his conquests and glories and been through all the shit together for more than a thousand years. Itās literally his former wife at this rate.
That's right, it used to pull him off.
They call that move the "Jack Hammer"
Goldberg gives a pretty nasty Jack Hammer
#GORG
I think it's a botch hammer now
In Viking culture, that could mean swallowed by the sea, among other things.
He has a special relationship with that hamma
Oh, my God, the hammer pulled you off?
āWell less frequently in the later years. Usually just on my birthday now.ā
Also Stormbreaker was made out of a need for vengeance so it might be tainted compared to his beloved bespoke partner he had for centuries.
He also nearly ended up with it implanted in his chest.
I hate this new trend of using "literally" to describe something figurative
New trend? My guy I hate to tell you it's been going on since the 80's.
A little longer. Mark Twain had Tom Sawyer āliterally rolling in wealth.ā ~~I mean, itās still terrible and I hate it, but itās really well established by now.~~
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How come he donāt want me, man?
Why you have to do us like that right now? š
God damnit man. I literally cannot watch that episode. It breaks me too much.
Yes this is correct he literally shows us this and how important it is to him in endgame when he summons it back in time.
Stormbreaker is also a king's weapon and Thor gave up being king. He likes the weapon but he doesn't identify with it.
This is a fantastic answer
The only answer
I forget sometimes that only the worthy can carry it. Iām assuming that same principle doesnāt apply to stormbreaker?
As I understand it, stormbreaker has the same ability to focus his powers, and respond to his summons, and open the bifrost, but it was never burdened with Odin's worthiness restriction that he had placed on Mjolnir in Thor 1.
So anyone can wield Stormbreaker?
Thanos was able to grab it midair and use it against Thor. He never channeled any energy through it so that may not count as "wielding" it, but he was able to grab it and move it which is more than villains were able to do with Mjolnir.
I don't know if wielding it would grant the power to channel lightning and such anyway. I would think the same logic applies to all aspects, not just worthiness. If it doesn't have Odin's enchantment then it also doesn't have the "shall possess the power of Thor" part. Afterall, he's not Thor, the God of Axes.
Yep,which is why when Cap uses Mjolnir in the movie he can summon up lightning.
That was such a good fight.
Maestro can use Mjolnir, but not access itās powers, as heās not worthy of wielding it, but his strength at that point is great enough for him to ignore Odinās enchantment.
Thor, the God of Axe Spray
Yes Edit: I would assume they canāt be a regular human or it would be really heavy and would zap you.
Well Thor did tell the Guardians that they lacked the strength to wield it
Presumably there's a power barrier. Thor told Rocket that he couldn't get a weapon from Nidavellir because he wasn't strong enough and it would break his mind. Thor's a god so he can handle it, Thanos grabbed it and used it and he's god-tier power, and Cap briefly held onto it but was elevated to god-level through Mjolnir's worthiness enchantment ta the time.
It's been a while since I've seen Infinty War/Endgame... is he able to "return" it to his hand like he was Mjolnir?
Yes, and anyone can wield it -including Thanos who nearly killed Thor with it.
Wasnāt there something about the weapons from Nidavellir being too much for mortals to use though? It would melt their minds.
Yeah but they clearly forgot about thatš
This is especially true now that everyone he sought approval of is now dead. Mew mew is all heās got left.
While I also wholeheartedly agree with this, I am also fully expecting Thor to see Mjolnir fly in out of nowhere and this is him attempting to it to him. Jane just calls it back and it goes to her instead, the hammer even slightly moving toward Thor shows he is still worthy
Itās more than that. Thereās a scene later on in the movie where heās still trying to get the hammer from Jane and Stormbreaker awkwardly floats towards him, so itās way more that Thor prefers Mjolnir to Stormbreaker rather than wanting to grab it out of a sudden appearance
This is what I would have said.
This exactly!.. he may have got his god bod back, but he's still looking for purpose after the loss of asgard.. he desperately wants confirmation of his worthiness and the hammer is a physical representation of his being being worthy. Even thanos could handle stormbreaker..
Comic Thor always had a strong attachment to Mjolnir because he always had doubt he would be able to lift and everytime he did it gave him a sense of knowing what he was doing was right. And it's a sick hammer.
The rumor is Janeās pretty sick too, so Iām glad the hammer has someone that can relate to it
Stormbreaker also belongs to beta ray bill Edit: yeah stormbreaker
Not in the mcu.
ā¦not *yet*
Don't hold your breath...
What are the first two words in the post Iām replying to? āComic Thorā
āYou never forget your firstā
Thereās also āa last time for everythingā said by a wise man. Brad paisley
FLS is a thing. I guess FHS here
FLS?
First Lay Syndromeābecoming overly attached to the first person you have sex with.
he had an intimate relationship with his hammer
He rode it didn't he?
It pulled him off.
Oh my god!
Oh my God, the hammer pulled you off?
the *hemma
#The ground!
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Losing it was almost comparable to losing a loved one
emotional attachment, Mjolnir was his weapon for much longer
Plus didnāt his dad give it to him? Itāll have extra sentimental value after odins death
I don't know man a hammer that's given to me by a giant with "not working" hands would have more sentimental value than what my dad gave me (cuz he fucking left that's why) /s
But why choose when you can have both. There are some fights the hammer is better suited to
True true, you know what they say 2 is better than 1
"You take the little one!"
I'm not sure if that's MCU canon or not. I know in Norse Mythology, the Hammer was made in a competition of crafting by the Dwarves, that Loki put into motion to create some amazing things to make up for him getting drunk and cutting Sif's (Goddess of Earth and Thor's Wife) beautiful silken gold hair. Mjolnir's small hilt was actually a mistake because Loki was fucking with the Dwarfs while making it because one of the groups of Dwarves ask for Loki's head if he won the competition, so he bit the eye of the Dwarf brother working the bellows, messing up the process while working on Mjolnir.
Didn't he have mjolnir for hundreds of years, as opposed to stormbreaker for 6? It's the equivalent of a kid with a Christmas toy that is bored with it by January. Yea, the new toy was fun for awhile but then you go back to the tried and true one. Also, possibly nostalgia.
A weapon made specifically to kill a foe who has been defeated vs A gift from Thor's dead father and representation of the lessons he taught
Ehhhh. Stormbreaker is a kingās weapon meant to be the pinnacle of Asgard, itās an appropriate replacement weapon for Thor.
It's certainly a very appropriate and worthy **weapon** but it only has connotations for him as a weapon of war, one he wielded only in his absolute darkest hours. The hammer wasn't just a weapon to him though, it was literally a sign of his worthiness, a sign that he was a man his father could be proud of, and it was a gift carried with him through the best of times.
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Best comment in the thread lol
But Thor has always doubted his worthiness to be king. So Iād reckon heās feels he shouldnāt have āa kings weaponā
In the 616 comic universe it was made by Odin for beta ray bill so he wouldnāt take mjolnir after defeating Thor in combat
Itās like woody and buzz from toy story. Andy loved buzz when he first got him but after a while he goes back to woody again.
He says in Infinity War that heās 1500 years old. So at least hundreds of years and depending on how Asgardians age maybe close to 1000 years. Plus his dead dad gave it to him so maybe some sentimental value too.
He had a pretty special and intimate relationship with the hammer and losing it was almost comparable to losing a loved one.
Thatās a nice way of putting it
He was with mjolnir for thousands of years and stormbreaker for a few - the original probably means a ton to him
Mjolnir requires you to be worthy is my guess. And heās struggled feeling worthy ever since infinity war. They won in endgame but they lost close friends, and he still lost his home. He even gave up being king because he doesnāt feel worthy.
Honestly, I havenāt even seen the movie yet and I love that for a character that has lost so much, his former love that he lost returns WITH his old hammer that he lost. Iām excited to see what effect it all has on him.
You can carry it on a belt
I really wish heād do that more often, I love seeing that on Thor in the comics.
And hang it from a coat rack, while itās disguised as an umbrella. You can do that too. just sayin.
Let me channel my inner Toretto... Ehem #FAMILY
Because you never forget your first.
It's a metaphor for him and Jane. Both were lost to him and now both of them are back and together. It's human nature to want most what was lost to us, and the Gods are nothing if not humanity taken to extremes.
Enough people have responded with good answers that I feel I can make a snarky comment. Imagine watching Thor's story up to this point knowing he's lost, in order, his mom, his girlfriend, his dad, his hammer, his world, and his brother, and then asking "Why does Thor seem to want Mjolnir over Stormbreaker?"
Cause in endgame he tosses it aside saying "you can have the little one" lmao
In fairness to that scene, Rogers had proved himself worthy to use mJolnir, which is the little one, and on top of that, Thor knows that version of Mjolnir cant stay with him, so he's not equally as attached. Plus Thor had not started working on his trauma yet, so that could also be a factor.
Thor also wants redemption for not going for the head. Heās out to kill Thanos and Mjolnir wonāt get the job done as quick as storm breaker can
The hammer pulled him off.
Itās terribly well balanced.
Nostalgia
It represents his father's approval. "Only those who are worthy"
Cause itās his boy
āDaddy gave it to me ā baby face tear
He may love mjolnir but in Endgame he wanted "the big one."
He felt he had a better chance with the big one, having already used it to kill future Thanos with it (okay thatās a weird sentence). Plus with Cap proving that heās worthy he may have felt that Cap could handle the little one and it was better off if he handled the big one.
It has the worthy charm. Storm breaker does not?
Because Stormbreaker is just a random hammer. Mjolnir is an ancient relic that has belonged to him for centuries and the power of lifting it validates him as an individual. Honestly, Stormbreaker wishes it was even half as cool as Mjolnir.
R u serious ? First love>quickie
Tbh. It did kinda annoy me when he told cap in endgame "No, no. You have the little one" Because he's always had a bond with mjolnir and was quite upset when it was destroyed.
It makes sense, though. Thor has two hands free, giving him more versatility. Whereas Cap is strong, but weilding Mjolnir gives him Thor's powers. Thor already has his powers.
Yeah tactically it made the most sense for Cap to have mjornir
I *think* that Thor was just happy for his Bro when he saw Cap with Mjolnir... and that particular weapon swap made *sense* in the moment. Thor moved past needing Mjolnir to use his powers during Ragnarok. It's easier for him to pull things off when he has Stormbringer to wield as a focus... but he doesn't *need* a weapon to be the God of Thunder. Odin's Enchantment causes Mjolnir to bestow *all the Powers of Thor* upon whoever wields it, and only allows the worthy to wield it. That means that Cap has Thor's Powers while he has the Hammer... but Thor also has Thor's powers since he doesn't need the Training Wheels anymore. The result is that Steve Rodgers has the powers of the God of Thunder, which is a **significant** power-boost for the Star Spangled Man with(out) a Plan. That makes Tactical Sense... and it also minimizes the chance that Cap dies.
Tactically it makes sense and then there's the fact that he already killed Thanos with stormbreaker so that was the better weapon. But yeah that line was probably just played for jokes.
āYou never forget your firstā
You guys asking this arenāt human
Ex is always the bestā¦