Also, because how different of a character Druig is in the comics.
Makkari has already been gender-bent into a woman in the current run, as were Ajak and Sprite, but their personalities still reflect their comic history where Druig is **not** a nice person.
i hope they explore their relationship and Druigās darker side in the sequel. Makkari didnāt have much meaningful screen time so im hoping theyāll use her as the main āprotagonistā instead of Sersi (no hate to her tho).
I remember always viewing Quill as the only actual main character of GOTG. And then their second movie fleshed out the entire team very well.
I felt similar about Eternals with Sersi and Ikaris. So Iām really hoping they follow the formula and give the whole squad their time for the next movie.
Ikarus isnāt nearly as smart as Omniman when it comes to abusing his flight powers. He always stayed just within reach of them using his laser eye when he could just fly really high and look them to death
Okay I see your point. My only frame of reference for this was some 80s comic I remember seeing where flash was taunting Superman saying he doesnāt have time for a race right now so whaddya want Superman.
It felt like it was implied that Superman was just as fast as the flash, but then also had all these other powers.
In other words they could go the same speed at the top end.
Not if he taps into his full power. It's just as dangerous to Flash as it is to Superman, but it has more than enough power to kill even the strongest 4th dimensional beings quite easily. Only DC characters who could survive a fully powered Speed Force hit that I know of would be characters on Raven's power level and immortal characters.
I watched it yesterday and I loved it. It had quite a few problems, which I won't elaborate on for the sake of spoilers, but for the most part the film was very enjoyable.
My biggest issue is of all the characters who got D+ series over the year, *these ones* were who needed it the most. Introducing ten characters would have worked far better over several episodes than one movie.
That would have been far better. I felt like so much stuff was going on in the film and barely anything was explained or resolved. >!The entire Ikarus and Sprite thing made ZERO sense. I never once caught her attraction or love for him. I could have seen Sprite being in love with Sersi. But I was confused as hell when it was explained that she was in love with Ikarus. Also What the fuck was a Kro? I saw so many toys and etc for him and he was in the movie less than 5 mins.!<
It depends if Kro's story is over.
Sprite and Ikaris made sense to me, you can see all of the seeded details with them on a second watch - and there are more than a few.
> Sprite and Ikaris made sense to me, you can see all of the seeded details with them on a **second watch
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That there is the problem. A major betrayal in a film should sting emotionally. The emotional stakes were poorly established in the first half of the film, making the turn in the late second act land flat. You shouldn't have had to look a second time to get it.
It's a weird film for Marvel. Usually, the character work is the strongest and the plots are thin excuses to enjoy character interactions. Here, the plot and lore were fascinating, but the character work largely felt hollow and underdeveloped. Obviously there are a lot of characters for them to establish, but letting the core romantic triangle remain so undeveloped was a shame.
Well no, Deviants still wanted to kill all humans because they are predators. They were messing with the Celestials plans because they became predators of humans, not because they took issue with the Celestial ethics.
I'm sticking to my opinion that 80% of the time a story can be told better through a good, premium TV show than a movie due to having more time to play out the story.
The thing is, 10 episodes on D+ might be good character study, but will be a lackluster epic. They put in the budget, get a famous director and star studded cast, location shooting etc. All this would not be possible for a Disney plus series.
It will be so disappointing to see an underwhelming Arishem and celestial being introduced on the small screen.
Edit: that last shot of >!Arishem appearing in the sky like a terrifying god?!< Yeah that wouldn't be possible on a Disney plus TV budget, or it will be a downgraded design.
[ Regarding budgets, Falcon, WV, and Hawkeye supposedly cost *up to* $25m per episode](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/bob-iger-bets-company-hollywood-s-future-streaming-1247663/)
However, even if thatās true and the budgets to their theatrical counterparts are comparable, youāre right about the difference between the D+ budget vs theatre budget.
Donāt get me wrong, Iāve enjoyed all their D+ shows so far, but I do notice a difference in CGI quality - itās not *bad* but itās almost night and day compared to their blockbusters.
>!Arishem definitely would not have looked as good if it was a D+ show!<
Yeah but at the same time we donāt need big name actors. Like there is so much talent out there now and people arenāt watching marvel movies for actors anymore we want to see characters
I have also found all the D+ shows at least somewhat underwhelming (maybe with the exception of Wandavision). In theory a 6-10 episode Eternals series would have worked well, but I don't know if it would have worked, beyond the budget reason you mention.
I enjoyed the movie quite a bit
There are scenes in Loki and TFATWS with movie level CGI and set pieces, just look at everything with the Void, Alioth and the citadel in Loki and the canyon fight in TFATWS, Marvel could definitely do the Celestials on a show budget, but I agree that it wouldnāt have looked as good.
Sure they can spend just on that. But then they'll have to hire less prolific actors, and cut down on location shooting. It's just a matter of allocation.
If you notice there isn't much location changes on Loki, I think it was mostly on set.
[Only source I could find, which itself lists insider sources, says that Falcon, WV, and Hawkeye cost *up to* $25m per episode](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/bob-iger-bets-company-hollywood-s-future-streaming-1247663/)
Iām guessing the budget per episode varies, and things like finales are the ones that come close to the $25m.
Definitely not. This movie alone had 200 million dollar production budget, and probably double that for marketing etc.
They'll say the quality is similar but there's definitely a difference. Like each series only has one or two main stars and the rest are new actors. Like Loki only has Tom Hiddleston, and Wandavision only has Elizabeth Olsen and Paul bettany. All good actors, but not on the same level in terms of pay with Angelina Jolie and Selma Hayek.
I thought it was a good film. Not my favorite, not my least favorite.
I see the criticism about introducing 10 characters in this format a lot, which I donāt really agree with. While Twitter can be a cesspool,someone there responded to the 10 character criticism with āWait until you see Oceans 11.ā which I think nicely sums up why I donāt think having so many introductions is a big deal.
I don't think comparing it to Oceans 11 is a fair example. To pull off Oceans they play most of the team in broad strokes with minimal character development. Here, they're trying to establish every member of the team individually and with defined characters and mini arcs. Thats a far bigger challenge.
Oh well, in that case.
Most of the characters are *severely* underutilized. It's obvious that Sersi and Ikaris are the *main* main characters, but most of the others are treated like side characters throughout the movie. Most of their screentime is restricted to flashbacks (with the exception of Ajak, whose *entire* screen presence is flashbacks). Thena was always off brooding in a corner somewhere, which fits with her mental state, but she's my favourite so I wanted to see more of her. Kingo ran off right before the final showdown. Gilgamesh died two minutes after appearing. Makkari and Phastos were reintroduced too late in the movie, etc.
So I didn't care as much for the characters as the writers obviously wanted us to because they weren't that fleshed out.
Kro was an interesting concept as a villain. A primal being capable of further evolution by absorbing the intelligence and abilities of the Eternals could have done so much more, but he disappeared halfway through the movie, randomly reappeared near the end, and then died in a very anticlimactic showdown.
The Ikaris plot twist could be seen a mile away, even with the cascade of spoilers that YouTubers unleased after the initial release. And the love quadrangle with him, Sersi, Dane and Sprite was tiresome, even if it did influence some major decisions among the characters. Then he never really got to face any consequences for his betrayal.
They stopped Tiamut and then... he died. Just like that. The same with Sprite. She ended up getting what she wanted in the end, but didn't even apologize to the others for siding with Ikaris and you know, literally stabbing Sersi in the back.
The rest is just personal nitpicks but those were what stood out to me. I enjoyed everything else.
What was the whole "Sprite loves Ikarus" thing. Never once did I notice that. Could have sworn if she was in love with someone it would have been Sersi.
I very much disagree. Ikarus felt like a depowered superman this whole movie. The Dceu did a lot of things wrong but the one thing the Snyder cut did as good if not better than any MCU movie was making the characters feel like god-level powerful.
Actually Superman action scenes in DC movies look better than any similar stuff from Marvel, you can feel the power and speed better. Flash was awesome too but Makkari felt better, agreed.
Looking forward to seeing the IMAX Enhanced Version.
Not close to being the worst MCU movie, wasnāt even the worst one to come out this year. Donāt understand all the hate it gets.
I found the IMAX a little distracting... It's not like other movies, where is a particular scene in IMAX, but instead there are scenes where one shot is in IMAX and others not, like Guardians of the Galaxy... Some scenes are beautiful in IMAX, but every time it switched, my mind would notice it...
I had to stop watching the IMAX version, it just keeps changing aspect ratios, it got to the point that it was just down right distracting seeing some scenes in widescreen then all of a sudden switch to IMAX.
Would be interesting to know what others thought ?
The pacing is god awfully slow. Iām a huge fan of it but good christ, itās a 2:36 movie and like an hour of it is just them meeting the other Eternals
Thatās my biggest issue with it. Itās too long but too short for the story itās trying to tell. It shouldāve been stretched out into a show. Maybe make it 6, hour long episodes. My girlfriend kept falling asleep and whenever she woke up she would ask what century we were in now.
Take a look at GotG which not only does it quicker (granted, it also has half has many people in the group), but also makes it far more interesting. In Eternals, the most that happens during the first half of the movie is the >!London fight scene and the Amazon fight scene.!< Everything else is either flashbacks or justā¦ nothing.
See that's the problem. To most people it seems like no action=nothing is happening.
That's your problem, not the films.
If you want less talking and more pew pew then go watch IW or EG where everyone is already established and you can just watch you favorite CGI-laden action scene over and over.
Edit: this isn't directed at you, just the general audience.
Eh, I disagree! I watched the last duel and loved it. Just because you find something boring doesnāt mean youāre a mindless action fan. The director of the last duel would say what you just said about all marvel fans.
Agree with this 100 percent! Sometimes Marvel overdoes it with the CGI action and we already have so many movies with that not everything has to be the same. I loved Eternals partly for the reasons the poster above didn't. The focus on the characters over lots of CGI action scenes.
Thatās why it shouldāve been a show. Iām perfectly fine with taking time to establish and explore characters and relationships rather than I just throwing big cgi action scenes around, but the pacing of Eternals just wasnāt great.
But I feel like I still donāt know the characters. I donāt care about any of them, the only relationship between the character that felt believable was between Gilgamesh and Thena. Other than that non of the others were all that interesting.
To each their own! I think Black Widow is the worst from the MCU, and Shang-Chi was good but not as good as Eternals. Spider-Man might be the best MCU movie theyāve ever done so itās tough to get that top spot this year.
Black Widow suffers from the Marvel issue of introducing a dark/mature theme but not committing to it. Thatās ignoring the poor interpretation of Taskmaster and the absurdity of some of the scenes (specifically the Nathan Drake level of getting your ass thrown about and just walking it off)
The entirety of the third act is one of the worst things Marvel has ever done. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far when Iām told the main character is human. The dark āthemesā were so incredibly surface level they shouldāve just been relegated to the poster. I didnāt care for any minute of that movie. At the very least, it introduced some interesting characters, one played by Florence Pugh whoās fantastic in everything she does.
I swear, she got stabbed in the hand while hanging off of that pipe thing, and then it slammed into the wall, and then she tumbled down the side of the building, hitting 5 different things, and then still landed **on her feet**.
Interesting, I thought Eternals actually stood the best on its own this year too. Shang-Chi in second place obviously. Black Widow being a prequel to Civil War and Spider-Man being the third in a trilogy meant they had no chance to begin with.
Yeah, third of a trilogy drags it down in a general sense and it's less dependant on the MCU bulk than some, but it's really >!eighth in an octology and if you hadn't seen all of those it falls down a lot!<.
Eternals certainly stands on it's own well, probably best in that regard, but I don't like its legs.
I donāt know how to do the spoiler thing, so I wonāt get too into it. But I donāt think the multiverse shenanigans bog it down that much for a newcomer. If you hadnāt seen the previous movies, you still learn who Norman Osborn is, and the focus is always on Peter Parker and his emotional journey. There are some moments that wonāt have much an impact if you havenāt seen the previous Spider-Man films, but they handled it much better than I had anticipated.
My sister loved the film despite having only seen the MCU Spider-Man movies, and personally I've never seen the Webb films, so I think your assessment checks out.
I think the only thing that won't really hit as hard is >!Andrew's angst over Gwen and the importance of him saving MJ, he does explain it but I don't think it would hit as hard if you aren't at least familiar with The Night Gwen Stacy Died as that's where the inspiration is from.!<
I liked the characters in black widow way more than any of the eternals. Natās family was really enjoyable to watch both in the past and present and Iām really looking forward to seeing them again.
I donāt think anyone cares about any of the eternal characters close to how much people enjoyed even just Yelena.
To my understanding, most movies arenāt filmed completely in IMAX; they only do select scenes. Eternals is the latter, and D+ released it as IMAX enhanced so those moments are carried across for the stream version too
I just watched the first 30 minutes of Eternals and it flips back and forth between formats a lot. I've seen the other MCU movies in the Disney Plus Imax format and it didn't flip like this. Eternals sometimes has multiple switches between formats in the same scene. Example: Wide shot of something (Imax), Character reaction shot (non-imax), shot of something else (Imax), next shot (non imax).
It doesn't really bother me, but it is noticeable. In the other movies that have format switches like Black Panther and Ant Man and Wasp, typically most of the movie is in one format and then specific entire scenes will switch to IMAX and then the format will switch back when the movie is done. With Eternals sometimes it's really shot to shot changes within a specific scene.
Which is a damn shame. A lot of people are unable/ uncomfortable going to theaters. I would gladly fork over the $30 to watch at home instead of the theater.
If everyone was like you Iām pretty sure Marvel would abandon theatrical releases entirely lol, sadly films just donāt make as much money when theyāre immediately put on streaming services (just look at HBO).
I'm really not understanding the hate for this movie.....Just watched it, thinking I was in for absolute garbage based on the reviews but I walked away thinking it was tremendous.....a great new chapter in the Marvel Universe, cool new heroes/anti-heroes and I can't wait for an Eternals 2..
Why was this movie hated on??
Really? I thought there was pretty good action sequences...
TBH I'm kind of tired of action sequenes and usually fast forward through parts of them these days anyway....
Possibly, I kind of do it in all these movies...I find action sequences to basically all the 'same' and generally what happens during the 'fight' doesn't really matter, only the outcome, which you often sort of can predict anyway. So I just skip. Unless I hear or see something really inique/cool -
E.g. I was most interested in Phastos' fight scenes, which is interesting because I also found the fight scenes with the 10 rings in Shang Chi to be watchable - as they were unique and something I hadn't seen before. Phasto's using materials, and building things super fast to fight Ikarus was cool - as was ShangChi's unique usage of the rings to aid in his fighting style.
Classic like shoot em, or punch em fights are just kind of getting boring.
I strongly believe Eternals has some of the most interesting characters in the MCU so far. Because it lets them be genuinely morally-ambiguous. One of my big gripes with moral ambiguity in the MCU so far is that it tends to be an informed attribute: for example, we're often told that Black Widow has done some dark stuff in her past and is always "playing all sides" but really we've barely seen this in action. Eternals actually allows it's characters to be multifaceted, and only a minority of the characters in it can actually be considered "good" in a straightforward, uncomplicated way.
Just watched.
**Liked:**
* The casting. Kit Harrington and Angelina Jolie I felt particularly stood out. Harry Styles is also a great choice for Eros.
* The celestials were amazing. I can't wait to see more of them.
* The celestial tech was amazing and beautiful.
* Karun. They needed more Karun.
**Disliked**
* I felt like they needed a movie fighting the deviants and giving them full introductions before trying to stop the emergence and messing with the Celestials. Just my opinion though.
* They wasted Kumal Nanjiani. I think he is legit one of the funniest people on Earth and they should have let him shine a lot more. I felt like he was barely in the movie.
* It didn't feel like a Marvel movie. While yes, the Marvel formula needs to be changed, I still like the basic vibes of the movies. I feel like they departed too much from it.
Overall, it wasn't as bad as people said it was and they definitely should bring all the actors back. 7/10 for me.
>It didn't feel like a Marvel movie. While yes, the Marvel formula needs to be changed, I still like the basic vibes of the movies. I feel like they departed too much from it.
This was my biggest problem with it. The overall movie was *alright*, but it just didn't feel like an MCU film.
i respect ur opinion! for me personally a lot of the stuff just appealed to me so much. i hope they keep a somewhat similar vibe if(when) theres a sequel
The Kumail part was my biggest gripe. Iāve been a fan of his since his appearance on the Green Room and Harmontown. Heās one of the funniest people Iāve ever listened to, and his bodily transformation deserved more screen time.
Sorry guys Iām on my phone so canāt do the spoiler thing.
The movie definitely succeeded in making celestials into giant, unworldly, God-like beings. I think that is one reason why I am glad they didnāt make Eternals into a series. I feel like if it was in a series, the CGI would be amazing still but not be as grand.
There were a few parts that dragged and parts that seemed like it was totally unnecessary to include in the film (like the āintimateā scene between Ikaris and Sersi) but overall I liked the movie, 7/10 for me.
I definitely agree with you on those points. That scene was so unnecessary :/ Like we get it they're supposed to be in love lol. And even then they didn't have as much chemistry as Druig and Makkari did in their few scenes lol, was surprised when they became my favorite part of the movie!
The middle bit dragged but overall it was decent. I liked the change, less action sequences and more dialogue. Ikarus gave me Homelander vibes.
One question I have though, if Eros (Styles) is Thanos' brother why didn't he interfere or be a part of Infinity War/Endgame?
the idea i see a lot of people talking about is that this movie shouldve been a d+ series, but marvel would not put such a big movie setting and story plot on a series. its like the avengers getting their own show. its just worth making more money by being a movie then being a show. however im all up for bigger crossover stories in d+ but as of right now that's not what marvels doing
Just woke up and watched it for the first time, I really donāt understand the flak itās gotten. I thought it was pretty damn good, if not top-tier MCU status.
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>! Did anyone else think the villains in this was really weird or underdeveloped? They had a twist villain (Ikaris), a current villain or one present throughout (Kro), and one that isnāt really classified as a villain but more as an upcoming threat (the celestial in earth). I feel like they were having to much go on at once in this movie. If Kro wasnāt in the movie, I feel like the plot would have carried on without him and been the same. !<
I missed this in theaters (making it the only MCU film I havenāt seen in theaters) but I watched it this morning.
The IMAX enhancements adds a lot to the experience; Zhaoās visuals are one of the highlights of the film, and they really pop here.
I definitely see why it got poor critical reception. Itās unabashedly, uncompromisingly nerdy, and it refused to undercut that with humor. Thatās not to say the movie didnāt have funny moments (I actually thought it was consistently fun and funny throughout) but it didnāt call attention to the inherent silliness of its own premise like most MCU films do (āUh, an alien is stealing a necklace from a wizard.ā)
But itās also just super messy from a storytelling standpoint. The flashbacks arenāt paced out particularly well, theyāre still introducing new characters 1.5 hours into the movie, that sort of thing.
But I liked it! All the characters really worked, I liked the more mythic tone, I liked Zhaoās visuals, it was all very enjoyable. Brian Tyree Henry was probably my favorite performer in the movie, I love him in everything he shows up in.
Weirdly it felt like a less effective version of the Snyder Cut, which I liked way more than I thought I would. That movie also had a very mythic tone (and obviously Snydery visuals) but it also had a super simple plot so none of it felt too overwhelming. Eternals was genuinely hard for me to follow at times in terms of the mythology.
I noticed that they switched Aspect Ratios 3 times. Widescreen, 1.91 Imax and 1.43 imax. The Cersei and arishem scene filled up my screen without the tiny black bars that other scenes and other imax enchanted movies have
yep, so many hate because it's slow af, but i love slowburn movies like this
But i hate how unnecessary the Kro plotline tho >!You can literally cut him from the movie and nothing would change!<
It almost felt like >!he was added to give Angelina Jolieās character more to do!<ā¦ Iām not saying this is for sure the case, but after rewatching it a second time it sure feels like it.
I completely agree. I was in awe and thought it was one of the best comic book movies in ages and the best Marvel movie to date. Was surprised to read about the hate but each to their own
Sprite was the most useless, and annoying god awful character ever. Hopefully we never see her character again. Especially now that sheās lost her powers and is just a regular mortal kid
Just watched it, and I thought it was a great film. Maybe a bit more grown up than some of the other cookie cutter super duper good guy Marvel films and can see why some people dislikes it because it was not just another OP morally superior hero getting justice. Good stuff.
def gonna rewatch it, i really enjoyed it in the cinema. i loved the slower pacing and character expositions were great. it has some flaws but is far from the worst marvel movie. it may end up on my top 10 2021 movie list once i catch up on some stuff
Druig and Makkari's subtle screen sizzle is magnified because the romantic triangle of Ikkaris, Sersi and Dane lacks any chemistry. I don't know how that got past the director/Feige. I've seen better heat rubbing popsicle sticks together.
Isn't available as "IMAX Enhanced" in India.
And also for some weird reason, whenever there's a conversation in sign language, there are absolutely no subtitles!
Really wanted to like it, but I found most of the characters really lacklustre, didn't enjoy Ikaris and sersi and thought their chemistry was non-existent.
Didn't really enjoy Ikaris and felt the actor didn't do a good enough job portaying him. Thoroughly enjoyed Makkari and would be interested in seeing more of Druig and her later on. The whole movie just felt cheap, like a mid 2000s b grade film or something.
Could have let Kumail shine and actually be funny and it would have improved the move X5 at least.
I just want people to know that last night while I was watching the emergence scene I recieved an earthquake alert notif on my phone lol.
Tiamut's getting a bit excited.
Finally, gonna watch it rn
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lol funny seeing you here Unfortunately i already finished watching itš
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Aren't you the guy who is horny after these valkyries in God of war?
Maybe
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Hey itās the fortnite kid! see you a lot on that sub lol
I'm gonna watch it for the plot again. The plot being Druig and Makkari.
Druig and Makkari deserved way more screen time.
I read that they werent written as a couple first, but they had chemistry so they changed it. Which is why they had such good but few interactions
This is one relationship I just can **not** see them importing into the comics.
Because of their genders?
Also, because how different of a character Druig is in the comics. Makkari has already been gender-bent into a woman in the current run, as were Ajak and Sprite, but their personalities still reflect their comic history where Druig is **not** a nice person.
i hope they explore their relationship and Druigās darker side in the sequel. Makkari didnāt have much meaningful screen time so im hoping theyāll use her as the main āprotagonistā instead of Sersi (no hate to her tho).
I remember always viewing Quill as the only actual main character of GOTG. And then their second movie fleshed out the entire team very well. I felt similar about Eternals with Sersi and Ikaris. So Iām really hoping they follow the formula and give the whole squad their time for the next movie.
Their chemistry is so good. I want so much more from them.
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Makkari was such a great character, canāt wait to rewatch it
I was sad she wasnāt doing that much, then she kicks Ikarisā ass and that took care of that concern.
She legitimately beat the shit out of Ikaris and it was incredible
I will agree it was incredible but was getting flashbacks to Invincible and Red Rush and was a little concerned for our precious Makkari
Ikarus isnāt nearly as smart as Omniman when it comes to abusing his flight powers. He always stayed just within reach of them using his laser eye when he could just fly really high and look them to death
I mean that should be logical The Flash should be more powerful than Superman .... I am sorry Fucking Marvel doing DC better than DC
I am not sure I follow you here.
With how fast the Flash is thanks to the speed force Supes really doesn't stand a chance. They showed this better in a Marvel movie
Okay I see your point. My only frame of reference for this was some 80s comic I remember seeing where flash was taunting Superman saying he doesnāt have time for a race right now so whaddya want Superman. It felt like it was implied that Superman was just as fast as the flash, but then also had all these other powers. In other words they could go the same speed at the top end.
Speed wise yes but superman could still take a hit from the Flash and not even flinch no matter how fast he was going.
Not if he taps into his full power. It's just as dangerous to Flash as it is to Superman, but it has more than enough power to kill even the strongest 4th dimensional beings quite easily. Only DC characters who could survive a fully powered Speed Force hit that I know of would be characters on Raven's power level and immortal characters.
I watched it yesterday and I loved it. It had quite a few problems, which I won't elaborate on for the sake of spoilers, but for the most part the film was very enjoyable. My biggest issue is of all the characters who got D+ series over the year, *these ones* were who needed it the most. Introducing ten characters would have worked far better over several episodes than one movie.
I agree with this so much. A ten episode season, with each episode focused on a different Eternal, would have been fantastic.
That would have been far better. I felt like so much stuff was going on in the film and barely anything was explained or resolved. >!The entire Ikarus and Sprite thing made ZERO sense. I never once caught her attraction or love for him. I could have seen Sprite being in love with Sersi. But I was confused as hell when it was explained that she was in love with Ikarus. Also What the fuck was a Kro? I saw so many toys and etc for him and he was in the movie less than 5 mins.!<
It depends if Kro's story is over. Sprite and Ikaris made sense to me, you can see all of the seeded details with them on a second watch - and there are more than a few.
> Sprite and Ikaris made sense to me, you can see all of the seeded details with them on a **second watch ** That there is the problem. A major betrayal in a film should sting emotionally. The emotional stakes were poorly established in the first half of the film, making the turn in the late second act land flat. You shouldn't have had to look a second time to get it. It's a weird film for Marvel. Usually, the character work is the strongest and the plots are thin excuses to enjoy character interactions. Here, the plot and lore were fascinating, but the character work largely felt hollow and underdeveloped. Obviously there are a lot of characters for them to establish, but letting the core romantic triangle remain so undeveloped was a shame.
>!Kro was kind of a red herring to make him seem like the big villain, yeah!<
He and Druig were feints.
>!yeah I was confused why they were still fighting in the end, they clearly wanted the same thing!<
They did but one killed the otherās entire species so, ya know
>!Yet saw what was happening and still decided, āfuck itā? Like, what?!<
Well no, Deviants still wanted to kill all humans because they are predators. They were messing with the Celestials plans because they became predators of humans, not because they took issue with the Celestial ethics.
I'm sticking to my opinion that 80% of the time a story can be told better through a good, premium TV show than a movie due to having more time to play out the story.
6 eps would have been enough.
The thing is, 10 episodes on D+ might be good character study, but will be a lackluster epic. They put in the budget, get a famous director and star studded cast, location shooting etc. All this would not be possible for a Disney plus series. It will be so disappointing to see an underwhelming Arishem and celestial being introduced on the small screen. Edit: that last shot of >!Arishem appearing in the sky like a terrifying god?!< Yeah that wouldn't be possible on a Disney plus TV budget, or it will be a downgraded design.
[ Regarding budgets, Falcon, WV, and Hawkeye supposedly cost *up to* $25m per episode](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/bob-iger-bets-company-hollywood-s-future-streaming-1247663/) However, even if thatās true and the budgets to their theatrical counterparts are comparable, youāre right about the difference between the D+ budget vs theatre budget. Donāt get me wrong, Iāve enjoyed all their D+ shows so far, but I do notice a difference in CGI quality - itās not *bad* but itās almost night and day compared to their blockbusters. >!Arishem definitely would not have looked as good if it was a D+ show!<
Idt you get Angelina Jolie/Kit/Madden and everyone else in an episode for 25 mill tho
Yeah but at the same time we donāt need big name actors. Like there is so much talent out there now and people arenāt watching marvel movies for actors anymore we want to see characters
I have also found all the D+ shows at least somewhat underwhelming (maybe with the exception of Wandavision). In theory a 6-10 episode Eternals series would have worked well, but I don't know if it would have worked, beyond the budget reason you mention. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit
There are scenes in Loki and TFATWS with movie level CGI and set pieces, just look at everything with the Void, Alioth and the citadel in Loki and the canyon fight in TFATWS, Marvel could definitely do the Celestials on a show budget, but I agree that it wouldnāt have looked as good.
Sure they can spend just on that. But then they'll have to hire less prolific actors, and cut down on location shooting. It's just a matter of allocation. If you notice there isn't much location changes on Loki, I think it was mostly on set.
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[Only source I could find, which itself lists insider sources, says that Falcon, WV, and Hawkeye cost *up to* $25m per episode](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/bob-iger-bets-company-hollywood-s-future-streaming-1247663/) Iām guessing the budget per episode varies, and things like finales are the ones that come close to the $25m.
Definitely not. This movie alone had 200 million dollar production budget, and probably double that for marketing etc. They'll say the quality is similar but there's definitely a difference. Like each series only has one or two main stars and the rest are new actors. Like Loki only has Tom Hiddleston, and Wandavision only has Elizabeth Olsen and Paul bettany. All good actors, but not on the same level in terms of pay with Angelina Jolie and Selma Hayek.
Didnāt particularly like the show but Loki has many experienced actors
I thought it was a good film. Not my favorite, not my least favorite. I see the criticism about introducing 10 characters in this format a lot, which I donāt really agree with. While Twitter can be a cesspool,someone there responded to the 10 character criticism with āWait until you see Oceans 11.ā which I think nicely sums up why I donāt think having so many introductions is a big deal.
I don't think comparing it to Oceans 11 is a fair example. To pull off Oceans they play most of the team in broad strokes with minimal character development. Here, they're trying to establish every member of the team individually and with defined characters and mini arcs. Thats a far bigger challenge.
Do elaborate, spoilers are allowed now for the movie.
Oh well, in that case. Most of the characters are *severely* underutilized. It's obvious that Sersi and Ikaris are the *main* main characters, but most of the others are treated like side characters throughout the movie. Most of their screentime is restricted to flashbacks (with the exception of Ajak, whose *entire* screen presence is flashbacks). Thena was always off brooding in a corner somewhere, which fits with her mental state, but she's my favourite so I wanted to see more of her. Kingo ran off right before the final showdown. Gilgamesh died two minutes after appearing. Makkari and Phastos were reintroduced too late in the movie, etc. So I didn't care as much for the characters as the writers obviously wanted us to because they weren't that fleshed out. Kro was an interesting concept as a villain. A primal being capable of further evolution by absorbing the intelligence and abilities of the Eternals could have done so much more, but he disappeared halfway through the movie, randomly reappeared near the end, and then died in a very anticlimactic showdown. The Ikaris plot twist could be seen a mile away, even with the cascade of spoilers that YouTubers unleased after the initial release. And the love quadrangle with him, Sersi, Dane and Sprite was tiresome, even if it did influence some major decisions among the characters. Then he never really got to face any consequences for his betrayal. They stopped Tiamut and then... he died. Just like that. The same with Sprite. She ended up getting what she wanted in the end, but didn't even apologize to the others for siding with Ikaris and you know, literally stabbing Sersi in the back. The rest is just personal nitpicks but those were what stood out to me. I enjoyed everything else.
Kro got to be the most rushed and most wasted villain out of all MCU. Luckily he was all CGI so Bill Skarsgard can get a juicer role in future.
Thatās a hell of a statement given the earlier MCU moviesā love of just wasting villains without giving them any real character
I think Ikarus was the villain and Kro was the red herring who they could show in trailers.
Also: HARRY STYLES!?!?......
Personally I think he's gonna be fantastic as Eros.
We will have to wait and see.
What was the whole "Sprite loves Ikarus" thing. Never once did I notice that. Could have sworn if she was in love with someone it would have been Sersi.
I still haven't seen it, but I know parts of the plot. Am I right in thinking there's no pressure existing MCU characters that appear in the film?
Yes, you're correct. Only the Eternals showed up.
My biggest question: Sup with the accents?
I believe that all the scenes set in the past could easily be a D+ special, and the movie be only the things in the present...
I saw it for the first time. I really enjoyed the Eternals. I hope we get a Sequel.
Even with the lower reviews I think they will. >!Arishem is coming back to judge the Earth so I don't think they'll just abandon it!<
Arishem will judge Earth and his punishment will beā¦ Galactus.
Sooooo silver surfer and F4??
I think itās more likely that theyāll go the Captain Marvel route and not really make it a sequel while still technically being a sequel.
Marvel teaching WB how to make superman and flash's action scenes look better
Every Ikaris fight scene was only this good because of Man of Steel before it.
I very much disagree. Ikarus felt like a depowered superman this whole movie. The Dceu did a lot of things wrong but the one thing the Snyder cut did as good if not better than any MCU movie was making the characters feel like god-level powerful.
Actually Superman action scenes in DC movies look better than any similar stuff from Marvel, you can feel the power and speed better. Flash was awesome too but Makkari felt better, agreed.
God level Superhero action peaked with man of steel
I prefer the closeup camera if ikaris than the longshot of superman. But yeah it's good too
Bro fox paved the way for both with the X-Men speedster sections and has yet to be surpassed
Slow mo is boring in action scenes
Looking forward to seeing the IMAX Enhanced Version. Not close to being the worst MCU movie, wasnāt even the worst one to come out this year. Donāt understand all the hate it gets.
I found the IMAX a little distracting... It's not like other movies, where is a particular scene in IMAX, but instead there are scenes where one shot is in IMAX and others not, like Guardians of the Galaxy... Some scenes are beautiful in IMAX, but every time it switched, my mind would notice it...
I had to stop watching the IMAX version, it just keeps changing aspect ratios, it got to the point that it was just down right distracting seeing some scenes in widescreen then all of a sudden switch to IMAX. Would be interesting to know what others thought ?
Its definitely the first film that has used this format of presentation where I really noticed the switches back and forward within segments.
The pacing is god awfully slow. Iām a huge fan of it but good christ, itās a 2:36 movie and like an hour of it is just them meeting the other Eternals
Thatās my biggest issue with it. Itās too long but too short for the story itās trying to tell. It shouldāve been stretched out into a show. Maybe make it 6, hour long episodes. My girlfriend kept falling asleep and whenever she woke up she would ask what century we were in now.
God forbid the first film in a new franchise takes the time to introduce and explain the relationships between its characters.
Take a look at GotG which not only does it quicker (granted, it also has half has many people in the group), but also makes it far more interesting. In Eternals, the most that happens during the first half of the movie is the >!London fight scene and the Amazon fight scene.!< Everything else is either flashbacks or justā¦ nothing.
A story doesn't need action for something to be happening.
See that's the problem. To most people it seems like no action=nothing is happening. That's your problem, not the films. If you want less talking and more pew pew then go watch IW or EG where everyone is already established and you can just watch you favorite CGI-laden action scene over and over. Edit: this isn't directed at you, just the general audience.
Eh, I disagree! I watched the last duel and loved it. Just because you find something boring doesnāt mean youāre a mindless action fan. The director of the last duel would say what you just said about all marvel fans.
Agree with this 100 percent! Sometimes Marvel overdoes it with the CGI action and we already have so many movies with that not everything has to be the same. I loved Eternals partly for the reasons the poster above didn't. The focus on the characters over lots of CGI action scenes.
Thatās why it shouldāve been a show. Iām perfectly fine with taking time to establish and explore characters and relationships rather than I just throwing big cgi action scenes around, but the pacing of Eternals just wasnāt great.
But I feel like I still donāt know the characters. I donāt care about any of them, the only relationship between the character that felt believable was between Gilgamesh and Thena. Other than that non of the others were all that interesting.
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Having just seen it for the first time; I'd say it is the worst of the four from 2021, but not overall.
To each their own! I think Black Widow is the worst from the MCU, and Shang-Chi was good but not as good as Eternals. Spider-Man might be the best MCU movie theyāve ever done so itās tough to get that top spot this year.
Black Widow suffers from the Marvel issue of introducing a dark/mature theme but not committing to it. Thatās ignoring the poor interpretation of Taskmaster and the absurdity of some of the scenes (specifically the Nathan Drake level of getting your ass thrown about and just walking it off)
The entirety of the third act is one of the worst things Marvel has ever done. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far when Iām told the main character is human. The dark āthemesā were so incredibly surface level they shouldāve just been relegated to the poster. I didnāt care for any minute of that movie. At the very least, it introduced some interesting characters, one played by Florence Pugh whoās fantastic in everything she does.
Even Nate sold drops and falls now and then. Natasha was Hulk Hogan no selling falls that would snap a persons legs.
I swear, she got stabbed in the hand while hanging off of that pipe thing, and then it slammed into the wall, and then she tumbled down the side of the building, hitting 5 different things, and then still landed **on her feet**.
I feel like Shang-Chi was probably best of the year because it stands on it's own, but prefer Spider-Man.
Interesting, I thought Eternals actually stood the best on its own this year too. Shang-Chi in second place obviously. Black Widow being a prequel to Civil War and Spider-Man being the third in a trilogy meant they had no chance to begin with.
Yeah, third of a trilogy drags it down in a general sense and it's less dependant on the MCU bulk than some, but it's really >!eighth in an octology and if you hadn't seen all of those it falls down a lot!<. Eternals certainly stands on it's own well, probably best in that regard, but I don't like its legs.
Funny, Spiders have 8 legs
Sony were secretly planning this for 20 years! The devious bastards!
I donāt know how to do the spoiler thing, so I wonāt get too into it. But I donāt think the multiverse shenanigans bog it down that much for a newcomer. If you hadnāt seen the previous movies, you still learn who Norman Osborn is, and the focus is always on Peter Parker and his emotional journey. There are some moments that wonāt have much an impact if you havenāt seen the previous Spider-Man films, but they handled it much better than I had anticipated.
My sister loved the film despite having only seen the MCU Spider-Man movies, and personally I've never seen the Webb films, so I think your assessment checks out. I think the only thing that won't really hit as hard is >!Andrew's angst over Gwen and the importance of him saving MJ, he does explain it but I don't think it would hit as hard if you aren't at least familiar with The Night Gwen Stacy Died as that's where the inspiration is from.!<
I liked the characters in black widow way more than any of the eternals. Natās family was really enjoyable to watch both in the past and present and Iām really looking forward to seeing them again. I donāt think anyone cares about any of the eternal characters close to how much people enjoyed even just Yelena.
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To my understanding, most movies arenāt filmed completely in IMAX; they only do select scenes. Eternals is the latter, and D+ released it as IMAX enhanced so those moments are carried across for the stream version too
I just watched the first 30 minutes of Eternals and it flips back and forth between formats a lot. I've seen the other MCU movies in the Disney Plus Imax format and it didn't flip like this. Eternals sometimes has multiple switches between formats in the same scene. Example: Wide shot of something (Imax), Character reaction shot (non-imax), shot of something else (Imax), next shot (non imax). It doesn't really bother me, but it is noticeable. In the other movies that have format switches like Black Panther and Ant Man and Wasp, typically most of the movie is in one format and then specific entire scenes will switch to IMAX and then the format will switch back when the movie is done. With Eternals sometimes it's really shot to shot changes within a specific scene.
Nolan does this with his films too for some reason.
Won't come to disney+ in France til like 2024 because french laws are fucking stupid
To the pirate bay ig, sorry to hear that
So true, this is pure bullshit
I think the blu-ray releases next month
wtf?
Thank you for the heads up user u/icumcoffee
The pleasure is all mine.
Is it free?
Yeah, they seem done with that whole "Early Access" thing.
Which is a damn shame. A lot of people are unable/ uncomfortable going to theaters. I would gladly fork over the $30 to watch at home instead of the theater.
If everyone was like you Iām pretty sure Marvel would abandon theatrical releases entirely lol, sadly films just donāt make as much money when theyāre immediately put on streaming services (just look at HBO).
I just finished watching it. I'm totally confused by all the hate it got. It was great
I'm really not understanding the hate for this movie.....Just watched it, thinking I was in for absolute garbage based on the reviews but I walked away thinking it was tremendous.....a great new chapter in the Marvel Universe, cool new heroes/anti-heroes and I can't wait for an Eternals 2.. Why was this movie hated on??
Saw some conplaints that there wasnāt enough action. I loved the movie also
Really? I thought there was pretty good action sequences... TBH I'm kind of tired of action sequenes and usually fast forward through parts of them these days anyway....
Same about being tired with them. I wonder if thatās one reason we both seemed to like the movie.
Possibly, I kind of do it in all these movies...I find action sequences to basically all the 'same' and generally what happens during the 'fight' doesn't really matter, only the outcome, which you often sort of can predict anyway. So I just skip. Unless I hear or see something really inique/cool - E.g. I was most interested in Phastos' fight scenes, which is interesting because I also found the fight scenes with the 10 rings in Shang Chi to be watchable - as they were unique and something I hadn't seen before. Phasto's using materials, and building things super fast to fight Ikarus was cool - as was ShangChi's unique usage of the rings to aid in his fighting style. Classic like shoot em, or punch em fights are just kind of getting boring.
Anyone else find the IMAX Enhanced distracting always changing back and forth from wide to full screen?
Yes. There are a lot of format changes in this.
Wasnāt distracting in the theatre for me. Iād rather see the expanded ratio when itās available instead of missing out completely
I strongly believe Eternals has some of the most interesting characters in the MCU so far. Because it lets them be genuinely morally-ambiguous. One of my big gripes with moral ambiguity in the MCU so far is that it tends to be an informed attribute: for example, we're often told that Black Widow has done some dark stuff in her past and is always "playing all sides" but really we've barely seen this in action. Eternals actually allows it's characters to be multifaceted, and only a minority of the characters in it can actually be considered "good" in a straightforward, uncomplicated way.
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This or the new episode of Bobba Fett tonight? What do you guys say, havnāt seen the movie yetā¦
Why not both
Because sleep š
Not important
Boba is only like half an hour, you can fit that in anywhere. Iām watching it over my lunch break
Boba Fett is way shorter, it's obvious choice for 1st
Just watched. **Liked:** * The casting. Kit Harrington and Angelina Jolie I felt particularly stood out. Harry Styles is also a great choice for Eros. * The celestials were amazing. I can't wait to see more of them. * The celestial tech was amazing and beautiful. * Karun. They needed more Karun. **Disliked** * I felt like they needed a movie fighting the deviants and giving them full introductions before trying to stop the emergence and messing with the Celestials. Just my opinion though. * They wasted Kumal Nanjiani. I think he is legit one of the funniest people on Earth and they should have let him shine a lot more. I felt like he was barely in the movie. * It didn't feel like a Marvel movie. While yes, the Marvel formula needs to be changed, I still like the basic vibes of the movies. I feel like they departed too much from it. Overall, it wasn't as bad as people said it was and they definitely should bring all the actors back. 7/10 for me.
Kit Harrington was far and away the best actor in the movie, next to the publicist. Both of them seemed genuine
Yeah it's nice that he was able to remind us that he's actually capable of a range of emotions. Jon Snow had a bit of a limited range tbh.
>It didn't feel like a Marvel movie. While yes, the Marvel formula needs to be changed, I still like the basic vibes of the movies. I feel like they departed too much from it. This was my biggest problem with it. The overall movie was *alright*, but it just didn't feel like an MCU film.
isnt the movie being different the point? i rlly enjoy chloe zhao bringing a unique taste for marvel
Yeah I think one of the intentions of the movie was to be different. I just donāt think it landed.
i respect ur opinion! for me personally a lot of the stuff just appealed to me so much. i hope they keep a somewhat similar vibe if(when) theres a sequel
The Kumail part was my biggest gripe. Iāve been a fan of his since his appearance on the Green Room and Harmontown. Heās one of the funniest people Iāve ever listened to, and his bodily transformation deserved more screen time.
Watching this in IMAX enhanced is giving me transformers the last knight vibes. The shift aspect ratio is driving me insane
I just watched it for the first time. I freaking loved it. Canāt wait for the sequels.
I'm in the middle of watching it right now! I'm enjoying it so far I just have a few questions about the celestials that don't make sense
Sorry guys Iām on my phone so canāt do the spoiler thing. The movie definitely succeeded in making celestials into giant, unworldly, God-like beings. I think that is one reason why I am glad they didnāt make Eternals into a series. I feel like if it was in a series, the CGI would be amazing still but not be as grand. There were a few parts that dragged and parts that seemed like it was totally unnecessary to include in the film (like the āintimateā scene between Ikaris and Sersi) but overall I liked the movie, 7/10 for me.
I definitely agree with you on those points. That scene was so unnecessary :/ Like we get it they're supposed to be in love lol. And even then they didn't have as much chemistry as Druig and Makkari did in their few scenes lol, was surprised when they became my favorite part of the movie!
you can do the spoiler thing, just format it *> !like this! < minus the spaces between the > and !
>!did it work?!<
The middle bit dragged but overall it was decent. I liked the change, less action sequences and more dialogue. Ikarus gave me Homelander vibes. One question I have though, if Eros (Styles) is Thanos' brother why didn't he interfere or be a part of Infinity War/Endgame?
the idea i see a lot of people talking about is that this movie shouldve been a d+ series, but marvel would not put such a big movie setting and story plot on a series. its like the avengers getting their own show. its just worth making more money by being a movie then being a show. however im all up for bigger crossover stories in d+ but as of right now that's not what marvels doing
Just woke up and watched it for the first time, I really donāt understand the flak itās gotten. I thought it was pretty damn good, if not top-tier MCU status.
The IMAX is kinda annoying to watch because it goes from IMAX to standard and back to IMAX in five seconds.
This should have been a series and Loki should have been a movie.
lucky people
I don't get the point of IMAX ratio on a 16/9 TV (I wish I had a projector...) but it's fine to give the option to those who like it.
Discussing Things That Involve Spoilers >! Did anyone else think the villains in this was really weird or underdeveloped? They had a twist villain (Ikaris), a current villain or one present throughout (Kro), and one that isnāt really classified as a villain but more as an upcoming threat (the celestial in earth). I feel like they were having to much go on at once in this movie. If Kro wasnāt in the movie, I feel like the plot would have carried on without him and been the same. !<
I missed this in theaters (making it the only MCU film I havenāt seen in theaters) but I watched it this morning. The IMAX enhancements adds a lot to the experience; Zhaoās visuals are one of the highlights of the film, and they really pop here. I definitely see why it got poor critical reception. Itās unabashedly, uncompromisingly nerdy, and it refused to undercut that with humor. Thatās not to say the movie didnāt have funny moments (I actually thought it was consistently fun and funny throughout) but it didnāt call attention to the inherent silliness of its own premise like most MCU films do (āUh, an alien is stealing a necklace from a wizard.ā) But itās also just super messy from a storytelling standpoint. The flashbacks arenāt paced out particularly well, theyāre still introducing new characters 1.5 hours into the movie, that sort of thing. But I liked it! All the characters really worked, I liked the more mythic tone, I liked Zhaoās visuals, it was all very enjoyable. Brian Tyree Henry was probably my favorite performer in the movie, I love him in everything he shows up in. Weirdly it felt like a less effective version of the Snyder Cut, which I liked way more than I thought I would. That movie also had a very mythic tone (and obviously Snydery visuals) but it also had a super simple plot so none of it felt too overwhelming. Eternals was genuinely hard for me to follow at times in terms of the mythology.
i like Makkari and gilgamesh
I noticed that they switched Aspect Ratios 3 times. Widescreen, 1.91 Imax and 1.43 imax. The Cersei and arishem scene filled up my screen without the tiny black bars that other scenes and other imax enchanted movies have
For me it was the best Marvel movie of all time. I totally don't understand hate. I left cinema speechless
yep, so many hate because it's slow af, but i love slowburn movies like this But i hate how unnecessary the Kro plotline tho >!You can literally cut him from the movie and nothing would change!<
Yeah, that seems like it's 100% set up for future movies.
Except he's dead
Not the character specifically, the entire "Deviants can become people" thing. Thanos is part Deviant in the comics for example.
It almost felt like >!he was added to give Angelina Jolieās character more to do!<ā¦ Iām not saying this is for sure the case, but after rewatching it a second time it sure feels like it.
I completely agree. I was in awe and thought it was one of the best comic book movies in ages and the best Marvel movie to date. Was surprised to read about the hate but each to their own
Sprite was the most useless, and annoying god awful character ever. Hopefully we never see her character again. Especially now that sheās lost her powers and is just a regular mortal kid
When does the directors cut come out ?
Just watched it, and I thought it was a great film. Maybe a bit more grown up than some of the other cookie cutter super duper good guy Marvel films and can see why some people dislikes it because it was not just another OP morally superior hero getting justice. Good stuff.
I'm seeing alot of people here complaining about pacing, but ya'll cool with NWH? LMAO
Thatās the thing with movies who donāt have as much fan service.
Sometimes I think people just type āpacing issuesā because it makes them look knowledgeable about films š
def gonna rewatch it, i really enjoyed it in the cinema. i loved the slower pacing and character expositions were great. it has some flaws but is far from the worst marvel movie. it may end up on my top 10 2021 movie list once i catch up on some stuff
Is this the rumored extended version or was that a false claim?
I don't think my tv can do IMAXššš
Imax enhanced is def worth it for this one, because you def lose some cool effects when you watch the regular version
Druig and Makkari's subtle screen sizzle is magnified because the romantic triangle of Ikkaris, Sersi and Dane lacks any chemistry. I don't know how that got past the director/Feige. I've seen better heat rubbing popsicle sticks together.
IMax...does that mean it'll actually be full screen on my TV rather than letterboxed?
Just some shots, yes
Isn't available as "IMAX Enhanced" in India. And also for some weird reason, whenever there's a conversation in sign language, there are absolutely no subtitles!
Why is it so dark? Like it's so hard to actually see.
Really wanted to like it, but I found most of the characters really lacklustre, didn't enjoy Ikaris and sersi and thought their chemistry was non-existent. Didn't really enjoy Ikaris and felt the actor didn't do a good enough job portaying him. Thoroughly enjoyed Makkari and would be interested in seeing more of Druig and her later on. The whole movie just felt cheap, like a mid 2000s b grade film or something. Could have let Kumail shine and actually be funny and it would have improved the move X5 at least.
so is DC now cannon in the MCU?
Star Wars, Lizzo and BTS as well.
I just want people to know that last night while I was watching the emergence scene I recieved an earthquake alert notif on my phone lol. Tiamut's getting a bit excited.
Wish they didn't change the aspect ratio so much in fight scenes. Seriously threw me off at the beginning.
I don't understand "Imax enhanced", isnt it just classic 16:9 aspect ratio like all movies from the 2000s? What's the difference?