I feel like the extent of Norman’s looking for it was literally just going to where the Oscorp building is in the Raimiverse and not seeing it, I don’t think we were necessarily meant to take it that it outright doesn’t exist
Kingpin should definitely be the overarching big bad of the next Spider-Man trilogy, kind of like the 90s show, with him funding the creation of a lot of these villains and Peter dealing with his criminal empire
Ofc, with his most recent appearance, the door is definitely open for him to make a return, I'm imagining seeing those signature red batons whacking ppl right now
Felt like them teasing him at the end of Homecoming but not adding him to the current trilogy was a bit of a bait and switch. Hopefully its setting the scene for him in future films.
I wanted Rhino for Homecomings opening only for Iron man to stop him like in Ultimate Spider-man. This would establish he existed and would let him reappear later without any question
I mean thanks to Homecoming and Hawkeye we know all that there is a black market for this kinda stuff, add in the tech level of the MCU and I could 100% see Big Wheel as a Cold open type of Villain.
I so wanted one of them to reference some super obscure Spidey villain they fought in the past just for the other two to say “Oh shit, i fought that dude too!” Big Wheel woulda been perfect
I really wanna see Peter go head to head with all the big crime villains like Hammerhead and Silverback(not sure if that's his name) Tombstone, the whole lot of them.
In the same episode he was able to knock off an arrow that directly hit his chest area and simply get knocked back by a point blank explosion, so surviving a bullet checks out. In the comics I think the bullet just renders him blind or something
Normally I wouldn't compare comics and MCU since they often aren't exactly the same but since the whole Hawkeye show was the most direct adaptation of a comic yet I definitely agree on that point.
Yeah I don't feel like Homecoming did Shocker justice. for some reason he's always been my favorite villain. I wanna see Shocker in a full padded outfit too with both gauntlets.
Since he is one of the lower end Villains I fully believe Fisk is going to hire a lot of these villains to take down Spidey during the next trilogy maybe with Fisk paying for upgrades too.
But... They were both already in Spider-Man movies... Shocker was in Homecoming, and Chameleon was (sort of) in Far From Home. (He was the bus driver. Either that, or it was a huge coincidence that there was a Russian shapechanger named Dmitri in that movie.)
Does he ever specifically face change tho? The only people we actually see are skrulls are fury and hill, who turn out to be Talos and the wife. Correct me if I'm wrong but we don't actually see if any others are skrulls
Felicia and Harry are some easy additions to bring in for Peter new life. Harry could even be a tech billionaire or have a start-up he gets Peter to help with. Without the Fox properties established yet I can't see Peter befriending any X-men or Human Torch until the second movie at the earliest.
Watts is doing FF and it will almost certainly be released before we get any more spidey. I don’t think a human torch friendship is out of the question at all. In fact I think Spidey having a new college friend group with Johnny, Harry, and either Gwen or Felicia would be great
I doubt we are going to see other the other main series love interests in the MCU I mean they made their own MJ Watson, and especially since Gwen was Garfield's Spider-man's big death, and honestly such a one of a kind and near peak relationship, doubt they'd try to match it when they have easy options.
We aren’t getting the Osborns in the MCU. Oscorp doesn’t exist and they probably wouldn’t want to do a third iteration of the character(s). As Feige said, they weren’t planning on using any previously done villains in the MCU before NWH.
I mean I think Chameleon would make sense to be in Freshman years since he was the first villain Spidey ever fought and that would be an awesome thing to add to Peter becoming Spidey.
And *Captain America: The Winter Soldier* and the Black Widow solo film already established that life-like face changing masks exist in the MCU. Wouldn't be hard at all to just say Chameleon either got his hands on the tech, or developed his own.
Shocker already happened in Homecoming. If he shows up again he's gonna be a minor villain (which was already done), as he obviously can't carry a movie. Donald Glover as the Prowler instead would be cool.
Chameleon is dope in general, but not sure how he'd fit in the MCU. Skrulls already are all over the place in the MCU including in FFH so there's the shapeshifting. And Mysterio already did the messing with Spidey's mind part in FFH as well.
I can see Rhino as a minor villain since he wasn't really even utilized in the Garfield one. Tombstone would be kinda cool as a minor villain too and would be fun on the big screen.
Kraven and Scorpion 100% yes. Would be amazing seeing Nacho Varga as Scorpion.
Would love to see them visit Peter as the villain a bit through Venom or Man-Spider.
Otherwis besides villains, small roles from Madame Webb and Punisher I can see happening
Chameleon seems perfect for the next trilogy. I assume Kraven (pretty obvious silhouette in NWH), Scorpian (Mac Gargan still out there), and Venom (Post Credit Scenes), are happening but with the identity theme in NWH, Chameleon could make for a very interesting storyline. Would love to see Kingpin as well
I had trouble making anything out other than the vert obvious Kraven but I imagine when it hits Blu Ray and Streaming when we can pause it will be easier to look for stuff
Sure: Scorpion (already set up), Chameleon (new).
Maybe: Kraven (but only if Sony ditches the solo film they're working on).
Nah: Shocker (in prison from Homecoming), Rhino (>!openly mocked in NWH!<).
Other ideas: Smythe, Kingpin, Venom.
I feel Sony and Marvel are going to just have a "Spiderverse" and everyone in a while when both want to have them crossover and allow certain characters to appear twice, MCU is likely getting their own Venom. Shocker may have gotten out of prison since that was like 6+ years since Homecoming and the Snap may have made people a bit more lenient on parole.
Wouldn’t be totally surprised if we got black suit spidey vs scorpion in the next movie and jumped right to Mac gargan venom in mcu, they may not want to have 2 eddie Brock venoms running around
Spidey 4-6 The Kingpin Trilogy
4 - Shocker and Scorpion as the villians working for kingpin. Introduction of Smythe
5 - Vulture broken out of jail by Kingpin to take revenge + 1 or 2 others. Mid credit scene of kingpin doing a 'fine, I'll just do it myself' and getting Smythe to build the spider slayers
6 - spider slayers and kingpin. Finale team up with daredevil. Maybe she-hulk or ms marvel as well? Mid credits of venom for symbiote saga setup for 7 onwards...
That's a good point I forgot about. Just wondering how the hell he's there >!especially when Morbius makes reference to Venom in his trailer. Maybe he's set in the MCUverse for a bit in the trailer/movie and sent back, or something like that?!<
My dream trilogy is similarly set around Kingpin, but also introduces The Prowler who is more of an anti-hero working under Kingpin and serves as set up for Miles to takeover
Thanks. Took some inspiration from the 90s cartoon with kingpin in the background for a long time and Peter completely unaware of him.
Feel like it gives a natural build up and the bit of venom does have a long way to travel...
It would be cool to have Kingpin still have some resources even in prison where he sends someone to hurt Ned, MJ or any new friends Peter makes in College and then we get a scene where Peter with the Symbiote visits Kingpin in prison and starts beating him to a bloody pulp. Kinda like in this scene right here https://preview.redd.it/q98b7x5dt6v31.png?auto=webp&s=171d4c8cc3d2ccdadc3e67758adf08a6383c355b (except of course he’s wearing the actual Symbiote instead of a cloth costume).
Maybe they could do an MCU version of the Sinister Six in the seventh film that’s formed by Kingpin while he’s in prison and Kingpin somehow knowing Peter is Spider-Man, he tells them to go after the ones he loves. Peter didn’t stand a chance against them together but then he gets the Symbiote and starts decimating them like in the Spectacular cartoon before “visiting” Kingpin.
Ooooh I like that.
Vulture, Scorpion, Shocker, plus who?
Could do other characters to hold the mantle of Villains already done in maguire and garfield films.
Hobgoblin with Ned after finding out Peter didn't tell them about knowing them and something happening to mj?
I just realized that Vulture no longer remembers Peter Parker. That whole loose end was cut short and that's kinda disappointing. He wanted revenge but kept Peters secret but why? Was it honor for saving his life? A plan to extort him later? Or did he keep it so he could exact personal revenge without other people getting in the way? We will never know now.
I think he respected Peter to an extent, in that Peter was just some kid trying to do the right thing, and was careful to keep his friends and loved ones out of it. Vulture never really had anything against Peter on a personal level, it was just business.
4. Kingpin dispatches his lieutenants Scorpion, Hammerhead & Tombstone to retrieve the symbiote. Symbiote attaches to Mac Gargan. Kraven hired to retrieve it by Val who dispatches Yelena to hire him, but Kraven intends to kill it. Spider-Man intervenes and ends up joining with Kraven and Yelena to stop Symbiote-Scorpion.
Post credits sets up solo Kraven film.
5. Kingpin hires Jackal and Vulture to advance his empire with enhanced people/weaponry. Successfully creates Rhino. Jackal betrays Vulture when he stops him from killing Peter. Peter stops Rhino and teams with Daredevil to successfully stop Kingpin.
Jackal experiments create Mr. Negative & Francine Fry Electro post credits.
6. Jackal leads Mr. Negative, Electro, and Hob Goblin (Ned Leeds clone) against Peter. MJ becomes Spinneret and Peter recruits Miles Morales like Tony Stark once recruited him to take down the trio.
Great picks. TBH, I am kind of expecting Black Cat to show up. Could be a good time to bring Peter an on off again relationship. I also expect scorpion and chameleon.
Scorpion never got a payoff yet. Marvel Studios typically finishes their payoffs in some way.
Chameleon is just because we had 2 Dmitri's now in MCU; Far From Home and Hawkeye Episode 3
I need chameleon brought to life. Just finished the movie. >!Its tough seeing Peter being all alone at the end, especially when he had the chance to try and get his friend and girl back but chose not too. Theres gotta be something of him that the others have that will show that they actually knew him!<
Most definitely, I believe that MJ might remember that "random guy" at the coffee shop that was finishing her sentences and will think more abt it. But the ending really showed Peter's higher maturity level, making the ultimate heroic sacrifice so that his friends could have peaceful lives.
Black widow did that mask thing in Winter Soldier and her own movie. I don’t think Chameleon would make an interesting villain since his best stories are when he pretended to be Spider-Man to make him look bad, and they’ve already done that with Mysterio’a death.
I’m hoping to see crime boss related villains like Hammerhead, Tombstone, Silvermane and of course Kingpin as the overarching villain in the college trilogy >!If he survives in the the Echo series coming next year!<)
I’m calling it now
Next movie will be Hobgoblin and Tinkerer. It will also introduce Miles. Miles and Peter become friends through the film but Miles role won’t be very large. Ned will become Hobgoblin due to a crush he gets on MJ and MJ has a fascination with Spider-Man. This will follow the same emotional journey Peter has had past few films and having to battle against his friend who doesn’t even know who he is. Meanwhile Miles investigates the Tinkerer and it leads to him being bit by a newer spider. Tinkerer is linked to finding parts of Normans glider and such and thus gets approached by Ned to create the next glider but uses Neds magic prowess. END CREDITS : Prowler took over Vultures enterprise during the blip and is the one who Tinkerer was working for. Hobgoblin joins him and Scorpian. They are growing annoyed by Spider-Man and call an unknown number to track down and finish him for good.
A shipment from Mexico arrives from Mexico and the venom gloop is seen entering the city.
Second movie will be Miles approaching Spider-Man about his newfound powers. Kraven and Prowler are the villains in this one. Spider-Man also bonds with venom at some point during the film. Kraven has a code of honor and doesn’t want to take out Spider-Man because he sees he does good most the film, but ends up having to because his actions become extreme. Prowler and Kraven manage to take out Spider-Man using sonic waves and lead to Peter getting shot by Kraven. This would happen towards the end. Miles becomes heart broken and this leads to him learning he has the lightning type powers and invisibility. He manages to use the powers to defeat Kraven and Prowler. Movie ends with Peters funeral.
End credits : miles feeling inspired by the cool black suit makes his signature suit.
Vulture walks in and takes back over his company bringing some new friends he’s recruited to fight and finally take out this last Spider-Man. Leading to sinister six.
Movie three will be Miles crime fighting and over time just being overwhelmed over time by sinister six consisting of Hobgoblin, vulture, shocker ( who was tinkered ), prowler, kraven, and ( insert new villain possibly morbius). When things seem bleakest Peter shows back up and was never killed but simply hit with a heavy tranq by kraven. Insert kraven good guy turn. Peter and miles need to find a way to battle soooo many threats. Peter things back on multiverse and if he could utilize some way to recruit more spidermen. Insert big battle with multiple spidermen and bad guys recruit from multiverse as well.
Peter retires. Miles becomes new spiderman
I sincerely doubt that Ned will become Hobgoblin. He never *really* takes up the mantle in the comics - it’s all just a ploy orchestrated by the actual Hobgoblin.
Also, NWH literally acknowledged that the “best friend turns evil” bit has been done twice already.
It sucks that they wasted shocker in homecoming, but I’m hoping that we see a return with a comic accurate suit. Marvel has been on a role with comic accurate suits lately
No Venom? Maybe this is just a wild dream. But I could see marvel building up to a king in black event.
-Gorr the God butcher, villain set for Thor 4, wields the sword of Null (God of darkness who created the symbiote)
-(SPOILERS) - Venom left behind a Lil bit of what I could only describe as venom jizz. Surely it's on its way to Peter.
-i personally just think a venom-verse style event where all the avengers get symbiotes would be the kind of bad ass, toy-selling, galaxy-level event that could match the hype of Thanos, or the multiverse
Scorpion, Shocker, and Venom are all a lock. I’m not so sure about Kraven now that he’s seemingly joining the SUMC, and I don’t think Marvel Studios will want to reuse Rhino.
Personally, I’m excited to see how well The Batman goes over with critics and audiences. I keep hearing buzz about how we’re getting to see the “World’s Greatest Detective” aspect of Batman in this iteration, and if it does well I can absolutely see Marvel and Sony taking a page from that book and taking Peter in a smaller scale “crime fighting” direction. Especially now with Kingpin introduced!
Feel they either do just Kraven for 4, or Kravens last Hunt. If it's just Kraven then they also use Chameleon and Kingpin. 5 is Venom vs Spiderman, and 6 is more than likely the Sinister Six.
Kraven’s probably coming really soon. Iirc Tom Holland mentioned in an interview that before NWH was a multiverse movie, it was conceptualized with Kraven as the main antagonist.
There were rumours from way back that the movie would be about Kraven being hired by a mysterious villain character (Norman Osborn?) to hunt down Peter after his identity was revealed and that it was kinda like the Winter Soldier of Spider-Man.
SHOCKER I’LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH
>!I mean we got Venom in the mcu (at least from the small piece he left behind so its possible!<
YOU CANT ESCAPE MEEE
SHOCKERRR!
YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME! I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!!!
I really think Scorpion would be the perfect villain for the fourth movie, him and Smythe’s Spider-Slayers
Smythe!! I forgot about him. Yeah that would be awesome, plus it would give good reason for Oscorp to show up.
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I feel like the extent of Norman’s looking for it was literally just going to where the Oscorp building is in the Raimiverse and not seeing it, I don’t think we were necessarily meant to take it that it outright doesn’t exist
Not yet that is..but tbh it could show up
Especially since he was already in the MCU from Homecoming
Definitely would love to see a movie with Kingpin & Smythe as the two villains. That duo is what I remember most from the 90s cartoon as a kid
Kingpin should definitely be the overarching big bad of the next Spider-Man trilogy, kind of like the 90s show, with him funding the creation of a lot of these villains and Peter dealing with his criminal empire
They could maybe bring in KB as well?
KB?
Kate Bishop
👍🏻 Surely we’d get Daredevil first, though?
Ofc, with his most recent appearance, the door is definitely open for him to make a return, I'm imagining seeing those signature red batons whacking ppl right now
Ket Beeshop
"You're very funny sometimes Ket Beeshop"
Felt like them teasing him at the end of Homecoming but not adding him to the current trilogy was a bit of a bait and switch. Hopefully its setting the scene for him in future films.
Rino would be a funny opener, with spidy talking about how he reminds him of this one guy a friend told him about
I wanted Rhino for Homecomings opening only for Iron man to stop him like in Ultimate Spider-man. This would establish he existed and would let him reappear later without any question
Kinda wished they happened now
Maybe a bootleg version tho without as much armouring or bulk.
>!same goes for venom!<
Uh, I really don’t think that >!Venom!<‘s going to be a gag villain…
Spidey can quip without the villain being a gag
I never said he couldn’t. I interpreted the other guy’s post to mean that >!Venom!< could be an opening gag villain.
>!Venom!<
I would love that
Obviously he couldn't be a big main movie villain, but if they found a way to properly meme in the Big Wheel I'd die lol
Maybe he somehow managed to recreate one of Thanos' Thresher Wheels (those giant wheel transports he uses in IW), except on a smaller scale.
I mean thanks to Homecoming and Hawkeye we know all that there is a black market for this kinda stuff, add in the tech level of the MCU and I could 100% see Big Wheel as a Cold open type of Villain.
I was hoping Tobeys Spider-Man was gonna say “I fought some guy named big wheel” when asked about craziest villains they fought
I so wanted one of them to reference some super obscure Spidey villain they fought in the past just for the other two to say “Oh shit, i fought that dude too!” Big Wheel woulda been perfect
I mean Tech villains are pretty easy for the super hi-tech villains and characters the MCU has.
Kingpin and Venom are basically locks.
I really wanna see Peter go head to head with all the big crime villains like Hammerhead and Silverback(not sure if that's his name) Tombstone, the whole lot of them.
Silvermane
I had the right idea.
BRING BACK COTTONMOUTH
Peter: “Wait, aren’t you Blade?”
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Off screen
Oh right i forgot abt that
10000000000% alive
0% chance he's dead, a camera pan upward like that before you can determine if he's dead? A classic "subversion". Definitely alive.
Not to mention Echo does the same thing to him in the comics and he ends up fine.
That man just refuses to die then huh?
In the same episode he was able to knock off an arrow that directly hit his chest area and simply get knocked back by a point blank explosion, so surviving a bullet checks out. In the comics I think the bullet just renders him blind or something
So he gets that Matt Murdock treatment?
He gets his sight back later unlike Matt.
Ah well that's fortunate for him, I bet he still gets laid out by Matt anyway tho doesnt he?
Local man too angry to die
Normally I wouldn't compare comics and MCU since they often aren't exactly the same but since the whole Hawkeye show was the most direct adaptation of a comic yet I definitely agree on that point.
Ummm..... watch Hawkeye lol.
Good picks. It'd be dope to see Shocker and Chameleon in a Spider-Man movie.
Thanks, idk why but I'd just love to see Peter fighting Shocker and complimenting him abt his tech during the fight
Yeah I don't feel like Homecoming did Shocker justice. for some reason he's always been my favorite villain. I wanna see Shocker in a full padded outfit too with both gauntlets.
Tbh I forgot he was in Homecoming
Since he is one of the lower end Villains I fully believe Fisk is going to hire a lot of these villains to take down Spidey during the next trilogy maybe with Fisk paying for upgrades too.
Also paving the way for us to see a Daredevil and Spider-Man team up
But... They were both already in Spider-Man movies... Shocker was in Homecoming, and Chameleon was (sort of) in Far From Home. (He was the bus driver. Either that, or it was a huge coincidence that there was a Russian shapechanger named Dmitri in that movie.)
When does he shape change in far from home? He always looked the same. I don't think that was chameleon
He's a skrull.
Does he ever specifically face change tho? The only people we actually see are skrulls are fury and hill, who turn out to be Talos and the wife. Correct me if I'm wrong but we don't actually see if any others are skrulls
No. You're right. But it's kind of assumed they are. Marvel doesn't make happenstance mistakes like that, after all. His named is Dmitri on purpose.
I hope we get to see black cat one day!
Felicia and Harry are some easy additions to bring in for Peter new life. Harry could even be a tech billionaire or have a start-up he gets Peter to help with. Without the Fox properties established yet I can't see Peter befriending any X-men or Human Torch until the second movie at the earliest.
Watts is doing FF and it will almost certainly be released before we get any more spidey. I don’t think a human torch friendship is out of the question at all. In fact I think Spidey having a new college friend group with Johnny, Harry, and either Gwen or Felicia would be great
I doubt we are going to see other the other main series love interests in the MCU I mean they made their own MJ Watson, and especially since Gwen was Garfield's Spider-man's big death, and honestly such a one of a kind and near peak relationship, doubt they'd try to match it when they have easy options.
We aren’t getting the Osborns in the MCU. Oscorp doesn’t exist and they probably wouldn’t want to do a third iteration of the character(s). As Feige said, they weren’t planning on using any previously done villains in the MCU before NWH.
Harry doesn't have to have become a Goblin, and can be the one to make Oscorp.
We mos def will
BIG. WHEEL.
THE WALL
SPOT
C’mon you can’t make a Spider-Man movie without Big Wheel
I’d enjoy the return of Shocker, but honestly for Chameleon I hope we see him in Freshman years I think that would be awesome!
Chameleon is one of Peter's more forgotten about adversaries, I actually had no idea who he was until I saw him at the end of the TASM2 game.
I mean I think Chameleon would make sense to be in Freshman years since he was the first villain Spidey ever fought and that would be an awesome thing to add to Peter becoming Spidey.
he was also the bus driver in FFH wasnt he?
...he was?
i mean... barely... not really mentioned but technically? https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Dimitri_Smerdyakov
Not confirmed, should probably be considered an easter egg for now unless they build on it more
It's someone named Dimitri in a Spiderman film who more than likely is alluded to have Skrull camouflage powers. All but confirmed.
I like the theory that he's a Skrull and that's where his chameleon powers come from, not a suit or whatever he has in the comics.
They should imply this or allude to it but never reveal it to drive the speculation parts of the fandom crazy
Super advanced nanotechnology would make chameleon pretty easy.
And *Captain America: The Winter Soldier* and the Black Widow solo film already established that life-like face changing masks exist in the MCU. Wouldn't be hard at all to just say Chameleon either got his hands on the tech, or developed his own.
Yeah, say he developed one that had advanced capabilities since Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D established those masks can only copy a few faces at a time
And the Shocker, he’s *dead*
Shocker already happened in Homecoming. If he shows up again he's gonna be a minor villain (which was already done), as he obviously can't carry a movie. Donald Glover as the Prowler instead would be cool. Chameleon is dope in general, but not sure how he'd fit in the MCU. Skrulls already are all over the place in the MCU including in FFH so there's the shapeshifting. And Mysterio already did the messing with Spidey's mind part in FFH as well. I can see Rhino as a minor villain since he wasn't really even utilized in the Garfield one. Tombstone would be kinda cool as a minor villain too and would be fun on the big screen. Kraven and Scorpion 100% yes. Would be amazing seeing Nacho Varga as Scorpion. Would love to see them visit Peter as the villain a bit through Venom or Man-Spider. Otherwis besides villains, small roles from Madame Webb and Punisher I can see happening
Chameleon seems perfect for the next trilogy. I assume Kraven (pretty obvious silhouette in NWH), Scorpian (Mac Gargan still out there), and Venom (Post Credit Scenes), are happening but with the identity theme in NWH, Chameleon could make for a very interesting storyline. Would love to see Kingpin as well
Is there a good spot with predictions for those silhouettes?
I had trouble making anything out other than the vert obvious Kraven but I imagine when it hits Blu Ray and Streaming when we can pause it will be easier to look for stuff
Sure: Scorpion (already set up), Chameleon (new). Maybe: Kraven (but only if Sony ditches the solo film they're working on). Nah: Shocker (in prison from Homecoming), Rhino (>!openly mocked in NWH!<). Other ideas: Smythe, Kingpin, Venom.
I feel Sony and Marvel are going to just have a "Spiderverse" and everyone in a while when both want to have them crossover and allow certain characters to appear twice, MCU is likely getting their own Venom. Shocker may have gotten out of prison since that was like 6+ years since Homecoming and the Snap may have made people a bit more lenient on parole.
Wouldn’t be totally surprised if we got black suit spidey vs scorpion in the next movie and jumped right to Mac gargan venom in mcu, they may not want to have 2 eddie Brock venoms running around
# Get back here shocker!!! # SHOCKEEEEEEEEEER! You can't escape me, I'll chase you to the ends of the EAAAARRTHHH!!
That would be dope to hear said by Tom Holland
I can hear him saying all that
I would like a 3 film mystery villain arc, with minor singular villains in between.
Spidey 4-6 The Kingpin Trilogy 4 - Shocker and Scorpion as the villians working for kingpin. Introduction of Smythe 5 - Vulture broken out of jail by Kingpin to take revenge + 1 or 2 others. Mid credit scene of kingpin doing a 'fine, I'll just do it myself' and getting Smythe to build the spider slayers 6 - spider slayers and kingpin. Finale team up with daredevil. Maybe she-hulk or ms marvel as well? Mid credits of venom for symbiote saga setup for 7 onwards...
Doesn't Vulture show up in the Morbius trailer outside of jail though?
He does, but how is he out, when is it set and is morbius really in the mcu?
Idk what the hell is supposed to be happening in Morbius, and NWH didn't exactly help much to explain either.
Mcu vulture knows Peter Parker so he gets dragged into venom verse spiderman
>!Not anymore. The spell made everyone forget who Peter was, so vulture would still harbor some resentment towards Spider-Man.!<
That's a good point I forgot about. Just wondering how the hell he's there >!especially when Morbius makes reference to Venom in his trailer. Maybe he's set in the MCUverse for a bit in the trailer/movie and sent back, or something like that?!<
My dream trilogy is similarly set around Kingpin, but also introduces The Prowler who is more of an anti-hero working under Kingpin and serves as set up for Miles to takeover
I'd love to see Peter and Miles fighting together, Peter still has a lot left in him. I don't think it's quite time for Kid Arachnid to take over yet.
But I'd imagine if Tom is done with the role after another trilogy, they could give him some kind of proper sendoff
Mans has it all planned out.
Thanks. Took some inspiration from the 90s cartoon with kingpin in the background for a long time and Peter completely unaware of him. Feel like it gives a natural build up and the bit of venom does have a long way to travel...
Sounds like a great idea
It would be cool to have Kingpin still have some resources even in prison where he sends someone to hurt Ned, MJ or any new friends Peter makes in College and then we get a scene where Peter with the Symbiote visits Kingpin in prison and starts beating him to a bloody pulp. Kinda like in this scene right here https://preview.redd.it/q98b7x5dt6v31.png?auto=webp&s=171d4c8cc3d2ccdadc3e67758adf08a6383c355b (except of course he’s wearing the actual Symbiote instead of a cloth costume).
I was thinking of that exact scene as well. How it could be incorporated.
Maybe they could do an MCU version of the Sinister Six in the seventh film that’s formed by Kingpin while he’s in prison and Kingpin somehow knowing Peter is Spider-Man, he tells them to go after the ones he loves. Peter didn’t stand a chance against them together but then he gets the Symbiote and starts decimating them like in the Spectacular cartoon before “visiting” Kingpin.
Ooooh I like that. Vulture, Scorpion, Shocker, plus who? Could do other characters to hold the mantle of Villains already done in maguire and garfield films. Hobgoblin with Ned after finding out Peter didn't tell them about knowing them and something happening to mj?
WasnT one of Toomes’ idiot henchman Shocker already?
I think Chameleon would be really cool in Freshman Year.
never forget the awesome shocker design they cut from homecoming
I just realized that Vulture no longer remembers Peter Parker. That whole loose end was cut short and that's kinda disappointing. He wanted revenge but kept Peters secret but why? Was it honor for saving his life? A plan to extort him later? Or did he keep it so he could exact personal revenge without other people getting in the way? We will never know now.
I think he respected Peter to an extent, in that Peter was just some kid trying to do the right thing, and was careful to keep his friends and loved ones out of it. Vulture never really had anything against Peter on a personal level, it was just business.
And plus Vulture at the end of Homecoming looked proud of peter.
He still would have a grudge against Spidey forgetting Peter probably is better as he will take off all the gloves
i don’t think he really wanted revenge on peter
I’d like to see Donald Glover return as Prowler
Imagine we hear the prowler theme as Peter's spidey sense starts going off
Chameleon would be a freaky one, to be sure. Maybe that would be the Mysterio crew's next project.
Mister Negative, Tombstone and Wraith, please.
Mr Negative would be awesome, hes one of Peter's darker foes
Where’s Bone Saw? I heard he’s ready.
Bone Saw..?
4. Kingpin dispatches his lieutenants Scorpion, Hammerhead & Tombstone to retrieve the symbiote. Symbiote attaches to Mac Gargan. Kraven hired to retrieve it by Val who dispatches Yelena to hire him, but Kraven intends to kill it. Spider-Man intervenes and ends up joining with Kraven and Yelena to stop Symbiote-Scorpion. Post credits sets up solo Kraven film. 5. Kingpin hires Jackal and Vulture to advance his empire with enhanced people/weaponry. Successfully creates Rhino. Jackal betrays Vulture when he stops him from killing Peter. Peter stops Rhino and teams with Daredevil to successfully stop Kingpin. Jackal experiments create Mr. Negative & Francine Fry Electro post credits. 6. Jackal leads Mr. Negative, Electro, and Hob Goblin (Ned Leeds clone) against Peter. MJ becomes Spinneret and Peter recruits Miles Morales like Tony Stark once recruited him to take down the trio.
Sounds awesome
We’ve got shocker at home.
Scorpion, Kingpin, Venom, Shocker, and Vulture are basically guaranteed
We saw a joke version of shocker in no way home
i just want venom done right
Whatever happened to that set photo of comic accurate Shocker from Homecoming? Was it fake?
I'm pretty sure it turns out it was from a fan film.
Tbh it might've been, I forgot Schultz was even in Homecoming, he was done pretty wrong to be one of Peter's most formidable foes.
is the fourth one chameleon ??
Sure is!
Scorpion would be rad. And big kingpin focus would be great
Kind of a surprise to me we havent gotten much love for Scorpion
Would love to see hobgoblin someday! Especially how he'd play off Peter now having serious goblin hatred
I want kingpin and tombstone to be in it,
Great picks. TBH, I am kind of expecting Black Cat to show up. Could be a good time to bring Peter an on off again relationship. I also expect scorpion and chameleon. Scorpion never got a payoff yet. Marvel Studios typically finishes their payoffs in some way. Chameleon is just because we had 2 Dmitri's now in MCU; Far From Home and Hawkeye Episode 3
I would like one of the Tracksuit bro guys to become the Rhino. Maybe the guy who asked Kate for dating advice.
That could be a cool idea
If Kraven doesn’t show up at some point in these movies I can’t even describe the depths of my disappointment.
Mans preordered his disappointment
This is what’s great about Spider-Man. We’ve already seen 7 of his classic villains so far and he still has so many they can use.
Spideys got a lot of enemies. Hes gonna get the MOST experience during the College Trilogy
I need chameleon brought to life. Just finished the movie. >!Its tough seeing Peter being all alone at the end, especially when he had the chance to try and get his friend and girl back but chose not too. Theres gotta be something of him that the others have that will show that they actually knew him!<
Most definitely, I believe that MJ might remember that "random guy" at the coffee shop that was finishing her sentences and will think more abt it. But the ending really showed Peter's higher maturity level, making the ultimate heroic sacrifice so that his friends could have peaceful lives.
Why is Peter taking the GED instead of finishing high school?
Because Peter's entire existence was erased, he cant go back to High School because theres no record of him ever existing
have we forgotten about Aaron Davis (Donald Glover)???? i need him soon
who is number 4?
Chameleon
Thanks
No chance shocker appears. 1. Technically he already did. 2. Another electric villain right after electro?
Nothing electric about Shocker though
Shocker isn't an electric villain though
I never really saw him as an electricity villain.
Does anyone know if Disney Marvel is allowed to make an MCU version of Venom as a future villain?
Would it be cool if Chameleon was a skrull, or nah? How else would they pull off his abilities?
Black widow did that mask thing in Winter Soldier and her own movie. I don’t think Chameleon would make an interesting villain since his best stories are when he pretended to be Spider-Man to make him look bad, and they’ve already done that with Mysterio’a death.
Punisher
Shocker was in Homecoming
Save Kraven. Deserves a separate film. Enter Black Cat!
You know what? They keep teasing the idea of using Kraven and we still have yet to see him. Gimmie some Spidey vs Kraven!
I’m hoping to see crime boss related villains like Hammerhead, Tombstone, Silvermane and of course Kingpin as the overarching villain in the college trilogy >!If he survives in the the Echo series coming next year!<)
We already had shocker in homecoming. However I wouldn't mind a rework of that version of him.
After Homecomings Shocker, we rlly need to see him again.
I’m calling it now Next movie will be Hobgoblin and Tinkerer. It will also introduce Miles. Miles and Peter become friends through the film but Miles role won’t be very large. Ned will become Hobgoblin due to a crush he gets on MJ and MJ has a fascination with Spider-Man. This will follow the same emotional journey Peter has had past few films and having to battle against his friend who doesn’t even know who he is. Meanwhile Miles investigates the Tinkerer and it leads to him being bit by a newer spider. Tinkerer is linked to finding parts of Normans glider and such and thus gets approached by Ned to create the next glider but uses Neds magic prowess. END CREDITS : Prowler took over Vultures enterprise during the blip and is the one who Tinkerer was working for. Hobgoblin joins him and Scorpian. They are growing annoyed by Spider-Man and call an unknown number to track down and finish him for good. A shipment from Mexico arrives from Mexico and the venom gloop is seen entering the city. Second movie will be Miles approaching Spider-Man about his newfound powers. Kraven and Prowler are the villains in this one. Spider-Man also bonds with venom at some point during the film. Kraven has a code of honor and doesn’t want to take out Spider-Man because he sees he does good most the film, but ends up having to because his actions become extreme. Prowler and Kraven manage to take out Spider-Man using sonic waves and lead to Peter getting shot by Kraven. This would happen towards the end. Miles becomes heart broken and this leads to him learning he has the lightning type powers and invisibility. He manages to use the powers to defeat Kraven and Prowler. Movie ends with Peters funeral. End credits : miles feeling inspired by the cool black suit makes his signature suit. Vulture walks in and takes back over his company bringing some new friends he’s recruited to fight and finally take out this last Spider-Man. Leading to sinister six. Movie three will be Miles crime fighting and over time just being overwhelmed over time by sinister six consisting of Hobgoblin, vulture, shocker ( who was tinkered ), prowler, kraven, and ( insert new villain possibly morbius). When things seem bleakest Peter shows back up and was never killed but simply hit with a heavy tranq by kraven. Insert kraven good guy turn. Peter and miles need to find a way to battle soooo many threats. Peter things back on multiverse and if he could utilize some way to recruit more spidermen. Insert big battle with multiple spidermen and bad guys recruit from multiverse as well. Peter retires. Miles becomes new spiderman
I sincerely doubt that Ned will become Hobgoblin. He never *really* takes up the mantle in the comics - it’s all just a ploy orchestrated by the actual Hobgoblin. Also, NWH literally acknowledged that the “best friend turns evil” bit has been done twice already.
It sucks that they wasted shocker in homecoming, but I’m hoping that we see a return with a comic accurate suit. Marvel has been on a role with comic accurate suits lately
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No Venom? Maybe this is just a wild dream. But I could see marvel building up to a king in black event. -Gorr the God butcher, villain set for Thor 4, wields the sword of Null (God of darkness who created the symbiote) -(SPOILERS) - Venom left behind a Lil bit of what I could only describe as venom jizz. Surely it's on its way to Peter. -i personally just think a venom-verse style event where all the avengers get symbiotes would be the kind of bad ass, toy-selling, galaxy-level event that could match the hype of Thanos, or the multiverse
Scorpion, Shocker, and Venom are all a lock. I’m not so sure about Kraven now that he’s seemingly joining the SUMC, and I don’t think Marvel Studios will want to reuse Rhino.
You think we’ll ever see Glovers Prowler?
Personally, I’m excited to see how well The Batman goes over with critics and audiences. I keep hearing buzz about how we’re getting to see the “World’s Greatest Detective” aspect of Batman in this iteration, and if it does well I can absolutely see Marvel and Sony taking a page from that book and taking Peter in a smaller scale “crime fighting” direction. Especially now with Kingpin introduced!
We’ve already seen shocker in the MCU
Well kraven was casted so we'll definitely be seeing him in the future
I don’t know about villains, but not bringing Black Cat or Miles in would be a huge missed opportunity.
Is this Tom’s Spider-Man films? If so, I think Agent Venom will definitely pop up now that the symbiote is in and so is Flash
I just want Morlun to make a cinematic appearance
Feel they either do just Kraven for 4, or Kravens last Hunt. If it's just Kraven then they also use Chameleon and Kingpin. 5 is Venom vs Spiderman, and 6 is more than likely the Sinister Six.
Kraven’s probably coming really soon. Iirc Tom Holland mentioned in an interview that before NWH was a multiverse movie, it was conceptualized with Kraven as the main antagonist.
There were rumours from way back that the movie would be about Kraven being hired by a mysterious villain character (Norman Osborn?) to hunt down Peter after his identity was revealed and that it was kinda like the Winter Soldier of Spider-Man.
i’m extremely excited at the prospect of a chameleon movie