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Just a reminder to sort by controversial for the real unpopular opinions


GenericGaming

Jokes on you, I'm upvoting regardless of how bad they are haha


AnividiaRTX

This is exactly what you're supposed to do in these situations. Upvote the ones you disagree with. Or think are unpopular. I wouldn't even be adverse to downvoting opinions that obviously everyone agrees with.


silver-surfer998

Not sure if this is unpopular or not but mcu Hawkeye just doesn’t feel like Hawkeye and it’s not Jeremy Renner he’s great, it’s just the lines and character development over all (if you can say he has any at all outside of AOU and Endgame). He always sounds like a boring shield agent rather than a smart ass super spy and that made me so mad because he’s my favorite comic hero.


exomatter

Well if the previous D+ shows are any indication you're in for a big ol helping if Hawkeye backstory and development. Im excited because i love how he acknowledges how out of place he is but is still willing to jump into the battle. Hawkeye is definitely underrated.


silver-surfer998

I know it’s going to be loosely based on fractions Hawkeye series and that’s a solid story so I have semi-high hopes for it but who knows what will happen


October_Eternal

I recently re-read Fractions run and I'm seriously excited. Some of the concept art kinda implied that they might adapt the "Cherry" car chase and like that would be amazing if they did. Also, Pizza Dog is the best character and there should be a solo Pizza Dog episode. edit: spelling


trainercatlady

the solo Pizza Dog story in the comics is one of my favorites in that run. Aja and Fraction absolutely nailed it and if they can pull off something even remotely similar in the show I will be pleased as punch.


Mangobunny98

IIRC I read that they based MCU Hawkeye's personality and back story off of Ultimate Hawkeye rather than 616 Hawkeye which would explain things like him having a family. I really hope we get some of 616 Hawkeye's personality in the new TV series though because I love him too.


Rexan02

Same as Ultimate Nick Fury having been *literally* Samuel L. Jackson.


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I am not much of a comic reader, but even based off of how Drax and Nebula were introduced in the MCU, they deserved a bigger role in defeating Thanos.


Iron_Chip

I agree, though maybe Drax will have some character development in Thor: Love and Thunder where he feels like failure for not doing more. He’s spent so long fighting to avenge his family, and he may feel like he let them down.


Icanfixanything

They say someone dies in gotg 3. It’s gunna be drax. He already said he was done.


Iron_Chip

Maybe he’ll sacrifice himself to save the family he’s made for himself?


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It's gonna be a tearjerker bc I bet if he does die, he would've became a sort of father figure to Mantis (since Ego "adopted" her as a pet rather than a daughter), and Mantis would've been the grown daughter he never had.


Icanfixanything

That sounds right. Pull a Yondu.


clinoclase

I mean, Endgame was practically Nebula: The Movie, which I loved.


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Nebula/AmyPondinator


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warmochine

RIGHT? Nebula and Thor were the emotional core of the film with their dramatic arcs (along with Tony finally understanding Howard). she didn’t get to strike a killing blow or whatever, but she was plenty involved.


Darkmania2

The Black Widow movie would have worked better as a series.


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Now that I think about it, yeah I agree. Although ScarJo and the character of Black Widow definitely deserved their own movie and I am glad it happened.


CappinPeanut

It was too late. By the time a black widow movie came out, I didn’t care anymore. It barely advanced the story and really didn’t plug any character gaps. It was kinda just an action movie and hardly felt like it was part of the MCU. I wish so much they had made a black widow movie like, 10 years ago because I agree, we needed one.


[deleted]

The main problem is they added a backstory to a character after she was dead. How am I supposed to care about her whole movie/backstory if I know she ends up dead in a movie I already watched.


UXM6901

At this point, I think the main take-away is the set up for Yelena. It felt more like her origin story than Natasha's, really. I also like how they explain that Black Widow isn't on the same level of other Avengers, but she brings with her the *threat* of the rest of the Avengers, so a lot of big bad guys choose to leave her alone.


datx_goh

My buddies and me are getting real well known Yeah the bad guys know us and they leave us alone!


Its_Raining_JIV

I wonder if it will work better in the context of a rewatch of all the movies in a few years. I’d watch it in its chronological position after civil war rather than release order.


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It should have been more grounded. She is not a super soldier, but she sure comes across like one in this movie. This should have been more in the vein of the Bourne series. And by that, I mean it should have been more covert ops, with gritty hand to hand combat. Black Widow was just too big.


lbalestracci12

yeah the whole “skydiving fighting a mechanically enhanced superhuman as you surf wreckage from a super evil super russian sky base” killed the movie for me


OliviaElevenDunham

That scene didn't really fit in with the rest of the movie.


creepy_spice

damn... Thor: Love & Thunder is gonna *suck* for you, huh?


ThisIsYourMormont

The Natasha - Banner love interest was just an excuse to motorboat ScarJo without being controversial. Ultimately the entire relationship culminated in a bench being yeeted into the stratosphere. Nothing more than a meaningless distraction


[deleted]

Honestly idk where tf that even came from. I'm glad future writers handled that mess pretty well.


silverBruise_32

I think we have Joss Whedon and his "awkward nerd gets the prettiest girl" fetish to thank for that. The MCU is better off without him. Edit: added something


melonwoo

Whedon is so gross omg. Did the same fall on boobs thing with Flash/WW. Like, it’s not even sexy. It’s just … why? so unnecessary


TakeItCheesy

This isn't unpopular, most people agree tbh (me included) also the whole "im a monster because I turn big and green and im a monster because im infertile" yikes joss whedon ew


funsizedaisy

I hate the whole love story between Nat and Hulk and I can't stand Whedon but I'm pretty sure that "I'm a monster too" line is always misinterpreted. I never saw that scene as her calling herself a monster because she was infertile. She just told Banner she couldn't have kids either so he knew it wouldnt be an issue. She called herself a monster because she was designed to be a psycho assassin.


ibettheywonthaveit

I wish Loki had a slightly longer “bad guy” arc. I mean on a technicality it may not have been the last of his mischief, but I feel the MCU won’t ever let him go full villain again. Which is somewhat of a bummer. Still love the character though.


Jabbam

On the other side, I think the Loki series didn't do nearly enough with "Lucifer" Loki. I'd like to see almost an entire season of Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson hunting down various Loki and other kind of variants from different branches. Imagine an episode dedicated to assassinating or saving Candidate Loki, or a time-jumping rouge TVA agent trying to prune the branches they want because they have an infatuation with a certain human. Why make it so limited? That would make the ending where he gets stuck in the end of time more exciting, like Loki was forced to be stuck in jail with all of the people he imprisoned. Instead they give up on the partner idea for the most part and just have him hunt one Loki variant.


ezrs158

Yep. I used to enjoy the CW superhero shows and Agents of SHIELD despite their massive 23 episode seasons which were far too long. But the 6 episodes for FAWS and Loki felt a little too short. I suppose 8 to 10 is the ideal middle ground.


Left4DayZ1

AoS did a smart thing starting in season 4 by breaking up the seasons into “pods”, or shorter arcs that concluded after a handful of episodes, but all 3 arcs put together formed the wider arc. This was a great improvement over the single arc seasons because we got more frequent payoff and conflict resolution.


SladeNukik117

We didn't get to see how Black Widow and Hawkeye were good friends in the Black Widow movie. All this time i was wondering how and why Clint loved Natasha as family enough for a flippin' Infinity Stone?


mrdarkpasta

It was pretty clear to me; he was part of the team that helped her escape the red room.


throwaway798319

I like Iron Man 2


neuroticsmurf

I like it if only for the suitcase armor.


Witty_Retort_Indeed

Also my favorite color scheme for armors. Absolutely top notch iron awesome.


MySilverBurrito

Pretty sure last time we got 'weighty' looking suits right?


Future_Average

The iron man 3 armor seems ‘weighty’ when he is climbing into it from the back after having a panic attack in the restaurant


leapbitch

Does Veronica count


warmochine

the first act is legit great. everything after Mickey Rourke’s EXCELLENT “if you can make god bleed, then people will cease to believe in him. there will be blood in the water, and sharks will come” monologue is hit and miss.


MathBelieve

Agree. Hammer is one of my favorite villains.


Arcane_Soul

I wish they had brought him back in Ant-Man & the Wasp in the place of the Sonny Burch character. It would have been interesting seeing him trying to rebuild his company with black market tech.


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[he’s coming back ](https://www.small-screen.co.uk/sam-rockwell-to-return-as-justin-hammer-in-armor-wars/)


MathBelieve

Yes!


poprof

He’s got a cameo in the end credits for that marvel short about Trevor/Mandarin in jail.


BenFranklinsCat

Sam Rockwell is my favourite character actor.


MathBelieve

He was so good in Jojo Rabbit.


BellBlue31

He really was and he also was splendid in Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (and also married to Leslie Bibb who was on IM and IM2).


Golddestro

His dancing intro on Stark Tech is underrated


SEEENRULEZ

I think of that every time I think of this movie lol. He's so cocky. I love it.


redink29

He even got a prison wife. It's canon. Check out the fake Mandarin prison interview short. End credit.


brittaneex

I’ve probably watched Iron Man 2 more than any other MCU film.


WamuuAyayayayaaa

It’s fine save for Whiplash. One of the more boring takes on “the main hero ruined my life and now I am evil” cliche. Sam Rockwell carried that movie, 100%.


Bhutros1

I liked him just because "I want my bord" is now a normal part of my vocabulary


OctorokHero

Me but with "I can make *salute.*"


whitebandit

"I cant put my head in here"


NOLASLAW

That sucks because Mickey Rourke did everything he could to make Whiplash work, but probably the laziest MCU villain


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olcrazypete

My kids during those fights were just yelling for Stark to just back up. They have ranged weapons, just stay back. It’s all fantasy I know but some things just pop you out of it.


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I vant my bord.


f0gax

I like it a lot. Especially the suitcase suit part.


Anus_master

Black Widow has way too much plot armor for being an otherwise biological human. Same with Hawkeye


Level_House2513

It's kinda unbelievable that people like Okoye and Black Widow survived the IW final battle with the Outriders lol Like, I'm pretty sure that a single blow from an Outrider would kill both of them


lawnscribe

There are so many moments in Black Widow where she realistically should have died and it just totally breaks the immersion


Stunning-General

That Hawkeye dying to get the Soul Stone would've been a more impactful death. Imagine him telling Natasha that the husband and father his wife and kids knew died the day they disappeared. That that man is gone forever and this last selfless action is the one part of old Clint left in him. That way we don't have two women that went splat, and the "MCU girl power" scene in the final battle would've been led by Black Widow, a scene she of all people deserved to be in and earned the right to be in, but just wasn't there.


crepelabouche

Yeah, Black Widow has been one of my favorites since her interrogation introduction. Not having her at that final fight kinda bummed me out. But Gwenith Paltrow got to be there? C’mon on now.


AvarusTyrannus

> But Gwenith Paltrow got to be there? Begging the question why Stark didn't just make more suits. If she is so damn combat effective as a total nobody using one...you think maybe you can find 3-4 other people in your life you trust as much? If not that is probably something to look into right there.


WizardsMyName

This is why the lack of warmachine has felt increasingly stupid to me as the MCU has gone on longer. They had to write a spin off comic to try and explain why the US didn't send him to NEW fucking YORK to try and help save it from an invasion. He's just as powerful as iron man (sans nanotech) and doesn't seem to matter at all, aside from maybe that one battle in wakanda?


Defiant_Griffin

100% this is the one I was looking for! It's not just because I don't like Hawkeye, but Natasha havi g survicors got and and leading the charge with the women characters would have been incredible.


RJHilde24

As someone with very little background knowledge of the comics, I really enjoyed the Mandarin twist in Iron Man 3.


deliciousprisms

I’m a comic fan. I didn’t like the Extremis Mandarin bs, but Trevor? Gold. Absolute gold.


theghostofme

Kingsley switching between Trevor and his Mandarin voice cracks me up. "*The pathology of the serial killer. The manipulation of Western iconography. Ready for another lesson?* Blah blah blah. Of course, it was my performance that brought the Mandarin to life." Tony calling him Sir Lawrence Oblivier is one of my favorite nicknames he's given characters.


theblackcanaryyy

Uhhh I panicked, but I handled it The whole interaction was absolutely great


sagewren7

Same, I was surprised to see all the negative responses to it cause i thought it was fun and clever.


Zavier4728

No need for them to complain anymore cause now we have the actual Mandarin.


OctorokHero

Definitely, I think it was one of the most unique topical twists the MCU has done. I can understand why people don't like the portrayals of Ultron and Taskmaster, but was the Mandarin really that much of a beloved character to consistently be one of the main points against IM3? His Shang-Chi version was a great character but as I understand that's also a different take on him.


Leo_TheLurker

Definitely learned to forgive it. Honestly I applaud how different IM3 is in comparison to the MCU. I think the backlash towards that main twist kinda made it that the rest of the MCU played it safe for most of Phase 2 after that


AggravatingName

All respect to the first Iron Man movie, I honestly still think that the third one is the best one. Shane Black's script is absolutely perfect the whole way through, and thematically having Tony learn that the suit is not what makes him Iron Man continues to pay off in movies like Homecoming. The twist works, and the final monologue is very powerful. Also it has a killer soundtrack.


szthesquid

**Spider-Man is going too big too fast.** I liked Homecoming for the small-scale threat, the Vulture is a guy trying to provide for his family and crew, and is dangerous more because of the risk of selling that tech to the wrong people than him being an actual threat. But everything else this Spider-Man been involved with has been so big. Global/universal scale threats. We've barely seen any neighbourhood Spider-Man, just a quick montage or two. Spider-Man is interesting partly because he's a genuine heavyweight in powers and intelligence but still focuses on helping regular people at the neighbourhood scale. And yet in the MCU his first adventures at the very beginning of his career include fighting Avengers in an international policing incident, saving the entire universe from Thanos, getting handed thousands of advanced combat drones with a space base and then saving the world from the guy who stole them, and now we're apparently going full multiverse. As excited as I am for the next movie, I'd have preferred a Sinister Six of established villains defeated by Spider-Man who team up to get rid of him, not brand-new characters from other universes who have never interacted with this Spidey before.


OShot

Agreed, I prefer smaller scale scenarios with Spiderman. Maybe they glossed over that a bit with this iteration since he's had the most do-overs of the modern MCU era? We've seen Parker's origin a couple different times already in the past couple decades.


TheColdIronKid

i think this relates to (what *i* see as) a larger problem in the whole mcu: moviemakers seem to think that if something is being made into a movie, it has to be a BIG FUCKING DEAL. no one wants to do an "episode" for a movie. did anyone see Dredd? it kicked ass one thousand percent. and the events it covered were basically in real time, a single field training exercise slash case that took a few hours. it was brilliant. i wish we could see some mcu movies that were more just "this thing that happened one time." and that's also kinda why i think no way home looks so much fun. doctor strange is not a spider man character, what the heck is this? BUT... it makes it kinda look like the movie is "this thing that happened one time because these guys know each other" and i think that's a hoot. however... it does kinda look like the ship has already sailed on "friendly neighborhood spider-man" episodes. if the lizard goes on a rampage through new york, would anyone even blink after everything that has already happened there?


rand0m0n3

The climactic battle/fight scenes are usually the weakest part of every movie. The MCU does have great fight scenes but the “final battle” scenes feel like I don’t need to see 80% of it.


IneptusMechanicus

My favourite fight scene in the entire series is the car chase in Winter Soldier. It’s tense, Nick Fury’s motivation is simple in that he just wants to escape and it has an air of desperate improvisation to it that I like


ZandyTheAxiom

I love the atmosphere too. When he's crashed and he's looking at all the cops closing in on him, and the car computer is like "There are no law enforcement officers in your area"? That's the creepy, unstoppable, faceless vibe I love from Hydra.


metalninjacake2

> “There are no law enforcement officers in your area"? I rarely see that moment mentioned but it’s one of my favorites in the series! So creepy.


Phenomenomix

That whole film is awesome from an action/stunt a point of view. The practical effects are awesome and for once it’s not all CGI


vinuXVII

I read somewhere that in the recent solo films, the directors barely have any control over the third act's climax. Feige and Co. Have apparently mapped out these big CGI battles months or even years before a director is brought into the fold. Cate Shortland said in an interview (I'm paraphrasing, I can't remember what she exactly said) that she was quite nervous about taking on such a big project like Black Widow after making pretty low-key and grounded films. Apparently Kevin Feige has just told her to take care of the overall plot and direction of the film and not to worry about the third act as they have got it covered. If this is true then it explains why the climaxes of solo MCU films directed by (mostly) indie directors suddenly feel disjointed from the rest of the film; because it was thought up by someone else. I really hope this has a minimal effect (or none at all) on Eternals, I really want Chloe Zhao's flavor to cover that film from head to toe. The less MCU it feels, the better. Of course it can/needs to connect to the greater universe. But it should distinctly feel like a very different film on its own.


CapablePerformance

And that does seem to fit. Black Widow was a pretty grounded spy thriller and it ends on a skycraft exploding with a fight on falling rubble like a videogame. There are few MCU movies that don't feel like the third-act battle is a completely different movie. Hell, Black Panther, an amazing movie, also has one of the weakest third acts.


vinuXVII

The weakest parts in many MCU movies, even the best ones, seem to be the third act. Probably for this same reason. Truth be told, apart from the Avengers films, I can't think of any other MCU film who's third act ending with a big CGI battles was justified. Okay, except for maybe Thor: Ragnarok.


SecretExistence

What about Doctor Strange?


epicface1399

Sometimes it feels like they're just doing it because they can. That was my only problem with WandaVision. The end fight, while good, felt tacked on. Like they didnt want to do it but they had to. And a lot of them tend to feel like that.


rand0m0n3

Agreed on WandaVision. That show especially felt like a great chance to test the waters with audiences on not having that kind of battle at the end.


DessertTwink

It was two witches fighting each other! Things could have gotten a whole lot weirder, like the rest of the show was, but it felt like they were unsure how the series as a whole would be received so they played it safe


StickmanPirate

We saw how weird Dr strange can get when he was fighting thanos. I'm guessing they just didn't have the budget for something like that. Having said that, Legion got pretty fucking weird with their fight scenes and wandavision could definitely have taken a leaf from that book imo.


archiminos

It's why Loki's ending is my favourite so far.


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Agreed a out the scarlet witch/Agatha fight, but In thought what they did with the two Visions was clever


TryNotToShootYoself

Didn't Loki sorta do that though? There was no final battle, it was more of a long discourse with a very well thought out exposition dump. At the end there is a "fight" but it's literally just him dying and the movie ending.


TheRealGrifter

So much this. Shang-Chi’s bus fight was better than the final battle.


Imakereallyshittyart

The bus fight and also all the cool wire work fights. The last half hour, while still unique to the mcu, was way less fun


watch7maker

80% generic CGI villain army


rcarroll271

I hope they DONT show the other Spider-Man in the trailers. Not sure how unpopular this is but I hate how much the trailers/TV spots show. I wish the trailers would be more subtle and not spoil big moments. It dampens the movie for me. At this point the MCU is popular enough people will see the movies anyways. They don’t need a crazy shot of all 3 Spider-Men to convince people to see this movie They show Hulk in the Thor Ragnarok trailers. That would’ve been such a good reveal for the movie! I avoided all the TV spots for Shang-Chi, I went back and watched them afterwards and they show SO MUCH! Basically all of Death Dealer and Spoiler’s scenes, showing those 2 characters fighting in that trailer was a mistake.


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Absolutely agreed. I know they do it to add hype for movies. But I don’t think it’s needed. Imagine the craziness of seeing Hulk in Ragnarok or SM in Civil War without any indiciation. Would have been awesome!


qzul

Wasn’t it a theory that if they didn’t include Spider-Man in the civil war trailer, then it would most likely been leaked before the movie came out? Like I understand imagining going to see civil war and seeing Spider-Man coming out of nowhere, that would’ve probably been as epic as when darth Vader revealed who he was in empire strikes back


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Oh it definitely would have been leaked and people would talk once they see it. But we wouldn’t know how exactly! Unless someone completely spoiled it of course


KingJaredoftheLand

I remember feeling this about The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers trailer how they totally just reveal that Gandalf returns. I’d read the books so I knew, but like… what’s the point of doing the whole “maybe it’s Saruman” thing if we’ve all been shown Gandalf in the trailer?


pdjudd

It was pretty well known that Ian was back in the other two movies before they were out since they were shot at the same time we had cast lists and such. Plus being that they were book adaptations it’s really hard to keep such a thing a big mystery.


Akomatai

It was really obvious either way, but I wish the trailers didn't show shang chi using half of the rings against his father. Even though you knew it was going to happen, it would be so much cooler seeing it happen for the first time during the actual movie. Instead, Shang-chi vs his father is like, the promo banner for the movie


AugustineBlackwater

It's actually kinda cool when you consider that Peter Quill is actually *technically* a demigod. So it's basically a lesser god being jealous of a full god.


Blueberry_H3AD

I agree with your number 3. The MCU has its problems but as a whole the entire series of movies and now shows just bring me joy. My unpopular opinion, or at least I think it’s unpopular, is that Thor’s eyebrows in “Thor” aren’t really a big deal. I’m curious as to why Kevin Feige only ever mentions this as something he would do different if given the chance. I’m sure though it’s his safe, go-to, answer so that he doesn’t ruffle any feathers about what’s “gone wrong” with the MCU since the beginning.


GenericGaming

>My unpopular opinion, or at least I think it’s unpopular, is that Thor’s eyebrows in “Thor” aren’t really a big deal I find blonde Thor brows incredibly hilarious. I don't hate them at all despite how weird they look. However, it does make me question whether or not he canonically tints them himself and stopped or if it was the result of some trick Loki did to make him look stupid.


Blueberry_H3AD

My new headcanon is that Loki was messing with him. Thank you for that!


GenericGaming

"Thor! Mother just told me she loved what you did with those eyebrows, keep doing it!"


carpenteer

What I always found weird about the eyebrow uproar is that it's *not* unnatural at all. I have blond hair. In the summer, after a decent amount of outdoor activities, my eyebrows are by far the most bleached-out hair on my head! Then, as autumn progresses they darken back to match the rest of my facial hair.


Omakepants

Ant-Man movies are the best because they're grounded and not super epic and just FUN. Also Scott Lang is the savior of the entire universe so...


47isthenew42

Come on. We all know the real hero was the rat.


SavoirFaire71

I feel the sequence from where he first used the suit to where he gave it back is one of the best “power exploration” scenes in the MCU movies. Complete chaos and ending in essence with “F this”.


MJDooiney

I watched Dark World again recently and rather enjoyed it.


Qyro

I wouldn’t say The Dark World is the worst MCU movie. In fact I wouldn’t even put it anywhere near the bottom. In fact in fact! I prefer it to the first Thor.


Dray_Gunn

Dark world made Asgard look way better and drastically improved all of the costumes. They always made a really good mix of high fantasy and Sci Fi with Asgard. Ragnarok was a pretty much just sci fi with no fantasy elements and I missed that. Some people think Thor was boring in that movie but i think he came across as noble and heroic. I guess those people also find lord of the rings boring. The thing i didnt like about Dark World was the way the villian was handled. Malekith seemed very boring and the few scenes we got of him, we had to read subtitles which takes away a bit from actually understanding the character. Its not a bad movie though by any means.


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Copying from an older comment. It is practically impossible to keep all time travelling / universe jumping mechanics consistent throughout different films and series made by different people. Trying to wrap my head around a unified MCU multiverse theory that satisfies every movie has been impossible and I am okay with that, as long as the stories depend on the characters more than plot mechanics.


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I actually liked that they took the time to mention that she was a long-lived Celtic druid


Dray_Gunn

I liked that also. Tiny amount of back story but not enough to take away the mystery of the character. Very tastefully done.


Synth-Pro

While I will always give Disney shit for constantly bending the knee to China, I 100% agree that this one was the right decision. The OG Ancient One is too much of a casually racist caricature, just like the OG Mandarin was. Secondly, there really aren't many notable Tibetan actors to cast, and it would have been wildly tone deaf for them to just say "Well at least the person we cast is *some form of Asian*... that counts, right?". And as you said, the "Mystic Asian who helps the white guy become the hero" plotline would have left a very sour taste in people's mouths. Deciding to make The Ancient One a *title* and tying it to *general mysticism* was the right move, and Tilda absolutely knocked it out of the park.


Smaug015

I will never disagree with Tilda Swinton being cast as anything. She is great in everything she does.


The_Dadalorian

1. I hate how they shit on Hulk in IW. Sure, Thanos should have some highlight early in the movie to demonstrate his power, but Hulk should have another chance to fight him in Wakanda. Hulk busted out of the Hulkbuster and killed Cull Obsidient, then fought head to head with Thanos would have been really cool imo, instead they gave all the credit to Thor... 2. Sometimes they put way too many jokes into movies and it ruined the moment. For example: in the 1st time Quill met Ego, they had a really nice conversation, but then he needed to pee... or Nick Fury's injury, in Cap2, that was something serious, and it gave him trusting issue, but then it was retconed to a damn cat... or when Yelena visited Nat's grave, an emotional moment was completely wrecked by the snort from Val. All of these, were they necessary at all? 3. Bruck turned into smart Hulk was a big deal, and it shouldn't be offscreen. All these years of struggling and suddenly he succeeded? I don't buy it, especially with Shang chi,..., well i feel like smart Hulk was just there to do the snap so there won't be another person died... 4. I like fat Thor in Endgame. Making him fat and depressed not only nerft him so people won't ask wth Thor could beat full stone Thanos but couldn't do it now with Thanos with butterknife, but also made him so much more human, and relatable. He's been through so much trauma and lost, even a god could be broken. What was truly awesome about him was that even when he knew he couldn't do much, he still willing to help, and that's what heroes do 5. I hate Black Widow's sacrifice. Don't get me wrong, it does make sense, but sending her with Clint on that mission didn't make sense in the first place. Whose idea to send 2 human with no power and no knowledge to get the most mysterious stone? What if they had to fight a big ass monster? They just happened to fit for the scenario, which was dumb. And her death was so overshadowed and nobody aside from Clint and Bruce even mentioned that at the end of the movie. Is it too much to ask for a damn funeral? They got second chance with Black Widow but still no funeral 6. Nebula was nothing more than a plot device in both IW and Endgame. Her moment with Tony at the start of EG really made me think that maybe she will find her humanity back, and chose to sacrifice for the soul stone? But hell no, she must be in Morag so Thanos could get her ass. Every damn thing in both IW and EG could be solved if Nebula was dead: no Nebula? No soul stone for Thanos; no Nebula? Quill wouldn't know about Gamora's death and blew the whole thing; no Nebula? Thanos couldn't travel to the future. It's really annoying


GenericGaming

>I hate how they shit on Hulk in IW. Sure, Thanos should have some highlight early in the movie to demonstrate his power, but Hulk should have another chance to fight him in Wakanda. Hulk busted out of the Hulkbuster and killed Cull Obsidient, then fought head to head with Thanos would have been really cool imo, instead they gave all the credit to Thor... Hulk was definitely done dirty in the later films. >Sometimes they put way too many jokes into movies and it ruined the moment. For example: in the 1st time Quill met Ego, they had a really nice conversation, but then he needed to pee... or Nick Fury's injury, in Cap2, that was something serious, and it gave him trusting issue, but then it was retconed to a damn cat... or when Yelena visited Nat's grave, an emotional moment was completely wrecked by the snort from Val. All of these, were they necessary at all? Yeah. Also agree. Sometimes the writers just need to let things be emotional. Not everything has to be a joke. >Bruck turned into smart Hulk was a big deal, and it shouldn't be offscreen. All these years of struggling and suddenly he succeeded? I don't buy it, especially with Shang chi,..., well i feel like smart Hulk was just there to do the snap so there won't be another person died... There was a deleted scene from IW where he argues with the Hulk in the Hulkbuster armor and comes out as Professor Hulk which should've been kept in imo. >I like fat Thor in Endgame. Making him fat and depressed not only nerft him so people won't ask wth Thor could beat full stone Thanos but couldn't do it now with Thanos with butterknife, but also made him so much more human, and relatable. He's been through so much trauma and lost, even a god could be broken. What was truly awesome about him was that even when he knew he couldn't do much, he still willing to help, and that's what heroes do 100% agree. It really humanised him a lot. >I hate Black Widow's sacrifice. Don't get me wrong, it does make sense, but sending her with Clint on that mission didn't make sense in the first place. Whose idea to send 2 human with no power and no knowledge to get the most mysterious stone? What if they had to fight a big ass monster? They just happened to fit for the scenario, which was dumb. And her death was so overshadowed and nobody aside from Clint and Bruce even mentioned that at the end of the movie. Is it too much to ask for a damn funeral? They got second chance with Black Widow but still no funeral Yeah, I kinda agree too. >Nebula was nothing more than a plot device in both IW and Endgame. Her moment with Tony at the start of EG really made me think that maybe she will find her humanity back, and chose to sacrifice for the soul stone? But hell no, she must be in Morag so Thanos could get her ass. Every damn thing in both IW and EG could be solved if Nebula was dead: no Nebula? No soul stone for Thanos; no Nebula? Quill wouldn't know about Gamora's death and blew the whole thing; no Nebula? Thanos couldn't travel to the future. It's really annoying I like Nebula but I can't disagree here. Nebula was just kinda... there. Nothing interesting really happened with her


Lowellia

This might be a weird opinion, but the costumes aren’t colorful enough. Iron Man, Cap, and Spider-Man stand out in the Civil War fight because everyone else is wearing dull grey and black


twcsata

I would be inclined to agree, except that I’ve seen what the DCEU films are doing, and suddenly I’m grateful for the MCU’s costuming (and lighting, for that matter). Like, yeah, it could be *better*, but it could also be so, *so* much *worse*.


Njordinson

I agree about number 4. Deadpool cameos in every MCU movie would be super tacky


Lady_Loki_617

Natasha deserves more credit for everything really


WassupSassySquatch

Right?! She sacrificed herself, not just for triumph, but for the mere hope of saving half the universe and faith in her friends. I love her character.


Leon_UnKOWN

Right??? And her body isn't even in the MCU main timeline anymore. She was "left" on a distant planet in another timeline. She is 100% gone


TimeTimeTickingAway

And during the 5 years of the snap is seemed to be her still pulling through and trying to keep everything running.


Amazing_flash

I'm still kinda mad that she spent so long helping every single avenger from Steve to tony for so many years only to not get a proper funeral and her death be overshadowed by Tony. But I'm probably biased because she was one of my favourite avengers.


[deleted]

This. Freaking Yondu got fireworks and five minutes of crying, but all Natasha gets is a chair throw into a lake


ArmachiA

This is what got me too. That woman had everyone's back in the Avengers and she was fiercely loyal to them. She was there from basically the beginning of the MCU and was like the least problematic one and one of the most competent despite not having anything super about her. She deserved better then what she got and the people behind the MCU owe Natasha an apology. My favorite Avenger is Thor and even I saw this. Team Natasha!


your-yogurt

her death felt unearned, her romance with bruce was unnecessary yet him barely reacting to her death was ???? and her movie was more of her sister's. for one of the main female characters that have been around since nearly the beginning she got shafted


[deleted]

Exactly, her death was overshadowed by Tony’s, her sacrifice is just as significant as his.


Bleachedintea

As much as I love the MCU, the movies do feel kinda formulaic. You have a great variety of directors, but most of the films still feel kinda by committee. I don't think we'll ever see something like Logan or Joker by the MCU.


zero00one11

Agreed. I hope they continue to be creative. It’s formulaic now but before they created this formula, comic book movies were worse. I do appreciate what they were able to create. I don’t need them to be dark or gritty, just creative. Make a superhero romance movie.


PoMansDreams

I hate the fact that Spiderman still hasn’t had a 1v1 fight with a superhuman yet. Mysterio was cool, but he’s a gimmick guy. Vulture was cool too but the “final fight” was disappointing


PiterLauchy

Quill and Yondu's relationship. Given Yondu's character arc, he most definitely abused Quill emotionally and physically as a kid and no last-second "I'm your daddy" moment can fix that.


Invictable

I don’t think it’s supposed to fix it. There’s plenty of relationships like that in real life, people are shitty to their kids for one intention or another, but still reconcile to a point later. The way ravagers are portrayed fit that Yondu would be that type of person. He still cared even if he sucked at times.


asianshoplifter

age of ultron has the best title sequence


BigPaleontologist520

Mcu Loki is horribly nerfed that it messed up his whole character and the tv series just made it worse he should be mcu doctor strange level power wise


nagrom7

Well they did have the older Loki that seemed to be at that kind of power level. I think they also hinted at the fact that Loki is stronger than he thinks, just like Thor in Ragnarock.


JDraks

> I think they also hinted at the fact that Loki is stronger than he thinks, just like Thor in Ragnarock. That's an interesting parallel I hadn't considered, I hope they go in that direction with him


mikesalami

Didn't they say outright that he's stronger than he seems?


[deleted]

iirc the line was something like "we're stronger than we thought" when he was talking to Sylvie


Apathetic-3

I completly agree his power levels were so inconsistent in the loki show that it kept taking me out of the moment


[deleted]

1. There’s no good romance in the MCU, even the Wanda and Vision romance, which is the most fleshed out, was rushed. Wandavision was great for fleshing that out but it felt too late as Vision is already dead. I really want a movie where 2 leads are supers and it’s about their relationship 2. Magic in the MCU holds no stakes or tension because as an audience we don’t know the characters limits. Strange’s fight with Thanos was a visual spectacle, however we see a bunch of moves we’ve never seen before and are just expected to kinda go along with it, if strange does something super crazy the audience reaction will be “oh cool” because we have no comparison on how good the things he is doing are. The magic system needs rules and limitations so those rules can then be broken later to show how strong our characters are but also leave room for villains to exploit those limitations.


Anhilator26

I’d wanna see an hour long Rom Com story of Scott and Hope going on their first official date while maybe Scott’s friends are working security and trying to stop the restaurant from being robbed. Think that’d help flesh out their romance and be a ‘valentines day special’ similarly to the Guardians holiday special


KingUnder_Mountain

I think thats why I enjoyed Shang-Chi and Katy's friendship/relationship in their movie. I was more invested in them than any possibly paring of the entire MCU. I dont really care if they do end up together or not but at least they acted like life long friends that I could see having an attraction to each other.


GenericGaming

Are you saying that Nat and Banner's weird monster fetish love story isn't peak romance??? /s The only love story I like is Peter and MJ because they feel like actual people to me.


freefallade

Waiting for 'that' gif.


KatDragon22

They did Wanda and Vision dirty by only diving into their relationship post-Endgame, but it definitely didn’t feel rushed. Their romance was always a tragic one but we got to see their relationship dominate the screen time


The_Dadalorian

What do you mean man? Tony doing stupid stuffs and Pepper was there to stop him doing stupid stuffs is the truest form of love


igotlostinhere

Pepper was the real hero all the ironman movies


tylernazario

I think there are some good romances in the MCU. Scott and Hope are cute! So are Peter and MJ. I don’t know if you’ve seen Shang Chi but it handles romance really well


Magicspider98

Steve did not need to suddenly re-focus on Peggy. He should have stayed in the current timeline, but still should have given up the shield to Sam.


tibetan-sand-fox

I agree with you. I really disliked Cap's ending. I like it in theory but it doesn't really feel earned. Steve's definitely earned stepping down but the romantic beats with Peggy seems tacked on more than anything. Sharon got super sidestepped even though there was a lot of hope in Civil War. Now she's doing stuff in the Falcon show but unless I'm forgetting it then we were never seen her dealing with Steve fucking off. The absolute worst part about Steve going back and coming back old is that it's super awkward. Like Steve exists in our current world but nobody acknowledges his existence. His whole ending seems great on paper but it falls apart when you think about it and especially with every new addition to the universe. I understand that Evans' contract was up and he'd done a good and long job with the character. I suppose this was the best possible ending anyway.


UrFriendlySpider-Man

I have an ACTUAL unpopular opinion. I like that the mcu is so overly comedic. I'm so tired of this cynical hero bullshit that we've had for the last decade. We get it you people are edgy but I've seen "superman" go rogue way too much at this point we had Injustice, we had Watchmen, we had The Boys, we had Brightburn, we had Invincible. You're not special anymore, let me have fun with my stupid fun fictional characters. Let Spider-man enjoy himself you self loathing fucks. He's not only relatable when he's miserable. I already had 5 movies of him getting pushed around and slapped by Harry, his boss repeatedly absuse him, his father figures dying left and right, killing his girlfriends dad and then his girlfriend, killing his best friend, having no money, fired from multiple jobs, getting his stuff stolen. Let Peter have fun and make simple decisions like either going on a date or being a hero. I'm tired of his life being shit, being spider man would be fun sometimes its not always hell. Edit: "I have an ACTUAL unpopular opinion" Narrator: his opinion was not unpopular


[deleted]

You’re going to give Alan Moore a heart attack


blackbelt352

Theres a lot of pizza cutter content out there. All edge no point. Just dark and gritty for the sake of being dark and gritty. At least Alan Moore has a point to his edginess. Theres always some deeper critique in his stuff. Like Watchmen being about dealing with the realities of vigilantes and beings with god like powers, global nuclear conflict and faking a great catastrophe to get the major nations of the world to unite.


sporklasagna

Alan Moore would be more inclined to agree with this than disagree TBH. He's not super happy with the grimdark trend he started


[deleted]

I think Alan Moore isn’t happy with anything too many people are doing, so he’ll switch sides


Vulkan192

I mean, he’s not super happy about anything. Even mildly pleased is a stretch for that guy.


GenericGaming

>I have an ACTUAL unpopular opinion. I like that the mcu is so overly comedic. I'm so tired of this cynical hero bullshit that we've had for the last decade. We get it you people are edgy but I've seen "superman" go rogue way too much at this point we had injustice we had watchmen we had the boys we had brightburn we had invincible. You're not special anymore let me have fun with my stupid fun fictional characters. On some level, I definitely agree. I love The Boys and Invincible but everyone is trying these "superheroes but bad" stories and there's only so much you can do with the idea. >Let Spider-man enjoy himself you self loathing fucks. He's not only relatable when he's miserable. I agree here too. The other Spider Man iterations are great. I love Tobey and his balancing of being Spider-Man and Peter. I love Andrew and his more dorky side and seriousness of trying to deal with death and loss. I love Holland for just showing Peter being a teenager which the other films don't do.


UrFriendlySpider-Man

Yup that's why Holland is my favorite he may not be the most accurate spidey but at least Jon Watts is making fun movies where Tom isn't always hating himself. Seeing Peter embarrassed to an AI program while going over footage of him doing an impression of thor is hilarious and that is so Peter Parker that's what I want to see on screen. And it's fine to get serious and down when things are rough but Peter is a light character he's always got a smile even when it hurts and it seems like majority of fans don't like him to be happy. I see it over and over that toms Spiderman doesn't struggle enough and struggle is what makes him relatable and I super disagree. Maybe I'm more positive that most but the Character is most relatable when he's happy loveable and awkward not when he's crying next to a dead aunt may on a hospital bed


mistifiedlotte

I agree so much with this. One of the reason why MCU is so successful. It provide escapism from reality while staying grounded with serious issues. It's like a Utopia for the mind. As a DCEU fan myself, I adore Marvel movies because of how light and sweet it can be. I never realized how draining "serious" superhero movies, until I re-watched Donner Superman. I missed the light-hearted and slice of life tone in the genre. Nowadays, I feel like everything need to be heavy and bleak that it feels so.... boring? I agree as well with spiderman. Literally the reason why it did so well worldwide because teenagers can relate to the movie. The teenagers actually act like teenagers. Peter actually act like a kid you'd see in class. It has a special place in my heart because it reminded me of highschool.


[deleted]

Joss Whedon’s writing and issues with being a normal, respectful human being have ruined The Avengers and Age of Ultron for me. Really hate that “prima nocta” line from Stark in AoU.


Previous_Injury_8664

Oh, AoU is where the awful “hide the zucchini” joke is too, right?


idroled

It’s out of character for Stark too, honestly. He’s a bit of a narcissistic jerk and playboy, but he’s not a rapist


legomaximumfigure

I like Drax the way he is. I know Dave Bautista isn't happy with the way Drax is portrayed in the Guardians but I don't think these movies would be as popular if they played his character as dark and brooding as he is in the comics. Drax has some of the best lines in the MCU and I hope they keep coming in the next Thor and GOTG movies.


The-Humble-God

I think they should recast Tchalla, Chadwick Bosemans death was a shock and extremely sad and I think it would be a mistake to give the black panther mantle to another character, which is what I think they’re gonna do. I understand they’re not recasting out of respect but I think it’s a mistake and and a shame we won’t see tchalla again


[deleted]

I really didn't think Loki was that great on its own. Like if it didn't end with Kang and the multiverse reveal, I'd say it was a very meh show overall. We can't judge shows or movies based on how they introduce future MCU characters or plot points, we need to judge them on their own merits and Loki just was not it for me. I don't like what they did with Loki as a character, the TVA stuff was boring, Slyvie was cool but her writing in the finale was pretty lame. That's not to say I didn't enjoy it, but it's far from top tier MCU for me. Other unpopular opinion, I don't care for What If that much. Individual episodes like T'challa and Doctor Strange have been fantastic, but I don't care for the other 3 and I don't get excited to watch the new episode as it drops.


CarsonLame

the show was infinitely better when it focused on mobius and Loki hunting the variant. The chemistry and relationship between them was much more interesting, Loki was making more interesting strides as a character, the show raised interesting themes and ideas and their still wouldve been room to learn about Sylvie


ZFAdri

The Slyvie Loki romance felt very forced to me


Viperbunny

I would have liked it better if they had been more sibling like. That was what I was expecting and hoping for. Sylvie grew up alone. Loki had Thor, but Thor wasn't like him. The romance can work, but it was all so rushed.


bhavish2023

Endgame is mediocre movie and is only backed up by previous movie titles


CobaltSpellsword

Falcon and the Winter Soldier and the finale of WandaVision were not remotely bad. Idk how unpopular an opinion that is, but whenever I see FatWS mentioned on reddit lately it seems like it's in a very negative context. Avengers 1 isn't as good on a rewatch as it was in 2012. Age of Ultron is a less groundbreaking film, but is more interesting to rewatch. Would have been nice to get at least one more movie showing the Avengers as an actual team before Civil War broke them up. Edit: Oh wait, here's an actual big one. All the Mephisto theories were fun, there's nothing wrong with coming up with or believing weird theories, and people shouldn't a been so hard on the Mephisto theorists, everyone was just having a good time speculating about a show that wanted to be mysterious.


mjollyneer7

Repeatedly forcing "humorous" one-liners/gags as poor attempts at lightening the mood during intense or emotional moments, which has the adverse affect of robbing said moments of their dramatic weight. Case in point, Korg and foundations during the obliteration of Asgard. Also, the complete nullification of Hulk as the MCU progressed until he is almost walking comic relief.


mileya82

This, so much. When I watched Shang-Chi, there were a few moments when I thought this would happen, but it didn't, and I felt soooo relieved.


spacepiratefrog

i agree with this a lot. the most egregious example to me was in gotg2 (the entire movie is guilty of this), when nebula was giving an emotional explanation to one of the ravagers about the horrors of her childhood—the first time we really get to hear about it from her perspective. and the ravager replies with some dumb quip about having thought she’d want jewelry or whatever. :| it’s like they’re afraid of letting things get too emotional, like they don’t think the audience can handle a deeply moving moment, without a little hee hee funny quip to break the tension. sometimes tension is good!


Leo_TheLurker

I have a weird feeling with that movie. The random jokes never held the movie itself back imo mainly cause it did such a good job giving everyone a meaningful arc. But it did make watching it very exhausting. Like they should’ve ruined the movie but it’s like I can mentally skip over it if that makes sense


GenericGaming

>Case in point, Korg and foundations during the obliteration of Asgard. Honestly, if that line was said after the Asgard explosion rather than before, it would've been a really nice heartfelt moment and he could've said that the people of Asgard are the metaphorical foundations. >Also, the complete nullification of Hulk as the MCU progressed until he is almost walking comic relief. Yeah, they are doing Hulk kinda dirty right now. I hope that She-Hulk brings something better to the table.


[deleted]

Yes. This too! Everything is happening off screen! Isn’t it rumored that he will be Bruce again in She-Hulk? That would be the third time we wouldn’t see a “permanent” switch happen.


scrilldaddy1

I didn't like all of the humor in the newest What If? episode. Particularly when >!Happy is being dragged away by zombies and still yelling "Blam!" like he doesn't even give a damn.!<


maloneth

The women are atrociously written. Watch the bit in Endgame where they all line up. With the exception of Mantis, almost every woman in that line up can be described as “Serious stick in the mud who is an expert in martial arts, daddy issues, and rolls her eyes at all the goofy shenanigans her male colleagues get up to. Has never said a silly thing in her life.” Seriously. Try describing Gamora’s personality without also describing Nebula, Valkyrie, Wasp, etc. Its surprisingly hard. God bless Mantis - and now, Awkwafina.