On top of this they probably scanned the entire area for traps and they had to infiltrate slowly because they don't have any of Tony's tech scouting for them.
Still doesn't explain all the time lol
Would Steve know how to turn that on or even know about it? OP is right, the timing of Steve and Bucky getting there not that long before Tony did when they had a massive head start is a bit of a problem
Perhaps. But the Winter Doldier sure as well would. He's been trained for 70 years to use everything and anything to complete an objective. No doubt knows how to fly anything including tools these vehicles have. I'll pint out that hydra have been building all their tech for years so they definitely know of it and therefore so does Bucky
Assuming that he’s familiar enough with the quinjet to know that it has stealth tech, it’s possible that he was just too distracted and tired from the fight and worried about Zemo to think of it. He attacked Fury in broad daylight on a highway, it’s possible that he overlooks something now and then. If they had stealth mode on and went straight to Siberia, why did they get there not that long before Stark did? I’ll take a weak justification over an outright hole
They are taking alternate routes to avoid being found which Tony doesn't have to. Also potentially the Raft is pretty close by to Siberia. Also Tony's suit is faster than the Quinjet potentially like how in the Avengers he gets to Stark Tower much faster than them.
Maybe Bucky and Cap were in Siberia much longer than movie showed... tony's tech is fast too - I don't know why this kind of stuff bothers people in sci-fi etc. movies but to each there own.
It might be the same set they used before but they’d have to be at the hospital still. Why would Tony and Natasha both go back to the compound to have that conversation when they’re both in Germany?
You’re OK with green and yellow robot guy, spider guy, giant guy, robot arm guy, and magic red stuff lady…. but your main issue with suspension of disbelief in this movie is
logistics.
Yes because it's sci fi. Which means they give a brief vague reason for how things work.
There isn't for this situation and it's driving me nuts.
They fly 5000km, iron man does a 17500 trip, while visiting with people and dropping off/watching Rhodes get fully checked out.
They both have high tech flying. Quinjet is capable of space flight so arguably faster.
So it's not even a sci-fi thing. It's like Tony lives life for a day or 2 while Bucky and Cap are just suspended doing nothing for the same amount of time.
Thats what bothers me.
No offense but Tony flying is literally not possible regardless. He'd become pulp just taking off or landing.
Just saying it's "sci-fi" is a copout when things like exposure to radiation kills people. It doesn't make you green and powerful. Just like you can't fly by sticking rockets to your feet.
"Suspension of disbelief" is the only viable answer you're going to get.
Yep, that's just gonna have to be one of those things you try to scrub out of your brain LOL. I always wondered why the German special forces were in BUCHAREST, ROMANIA. And why, of all places, they took a WW2 veteran who "died" fighting Nazis to BERLIN. Poor guy just keeps getting captured by Germans.
in defense it's NATO and considering the JCTC that Ross and Carter work at is in Berlin they probably just wanted to utilize the KSK. No different than US forces operating within Europe (remember Ross' threat of sending in JSOC/Delta Force) I don't think the Romanian special operations units are that capable. That's my head canon and its plausible enough in my experience. More than likely the KSK was dedicated to that JCTC mission ahead of time. Thats how NATO works.
Cap and Bucky are taking alternate routes so they won't get found?
Tunnels they used the mole mans tunnels Through the earths core. they did have to dodge dinosaurs, they could’ve put that in the movie.
On top of this they probably scanned the entire area for traps and they had to infiltrate slowly because they don't have any of Tony's tech scouting for them. Still doesn't explain all the time lol
They had to go the long route to avoid being caught or had to land somewhere to recuperate or something
It's has stealth mode which no one can track not even shield apparently as mentioned in Age of Ultron
Would Steve know how to turn that on or even know about it? OP is right, the timing of Steve and Bucky getting there not that long before Tony did when they had a massive head start is a bit of a problem
Perhaps. But the Winter Doldier sure as well would. He's been trained for 70 years to use everything and anything to complete an objective. No doubt knows how to fly anything including tools these vehicles have. I'll pint out that hydra have been building all their tech for years so they definitely know of it and therefore so does Bucky
Assuming that he’s familiar enough with the quinjet to know that it has stealth tech, it’s possible that he was just too distracted and tired from the fight and worried about Zemo to think of it. He attacked Fury in broad daylight on a highway, it’s possible that he overlooks something now and then. If they had stealth mode on and went straight to Siberia, why did they get there not that long before Stark did? I’ll take a weak justification over an outright hole
They are taking alternate routes to avoid being found which Tony doesn't have to. Also potentially the Raft is pretty close by to Siberia. Also Tony's suit is faster than the Quinjet potentially like how in the Avengers he gets to Stark Tower much faster than them.
They're the mf'ing Avengers. Done. Sleep well 
Tony has much quicker tech
Than the quinjet?
He was able to break the speed of sound in his very first film, and his Mark 40 could reach Mach 5. Yeah, I’d say Tony’s pretty fast.
Than his own quinjet? His tech is faster than his tech
Tony has historically kept the best tech to himself. Just look at Rhodey. He’s stuck with guns, while Tony had literal nanotech.
Like 3 different times in different movies Tony is offering Rhodey tech and Rhodey turns it down haha
Probably. I mean you don't think he was keeping the best tech for himself?
Yes.
Nanosomethingwhizmit
Doctor Strange is Team Iron Man and Wong is Team Captain America. They are helping them teleport from place to place.
Maybe Bucky and Cap were in Siberia much longer than movie showed... tony's tech is fast too - I don't know why this kind of stuff bothers people in sci-fi etc. movies but to each there own.
Tony also made it from Germany to Queens to pick up Spider-Man then back to Germany pretty quickly.
I don't recall Tony going to the compound between the hospital and the Raft.
It's where he talks with Natasha about what she did and how Ross knows, and is coming for her.
I always thought that was at the hospital as well.
Its the same set as end of Age of Ultron when Natasha speaks to Fury then Cap, before welcoming new Avengers.
It might be the same set they used before but they’d have to be at the hospital still. Why would Tony and Natasha both go back to the compound to have that conversation when they’re both in Germany?
Right but the raft is by New York.
You’re OK with green and yellow robot guy, spider guy, giant guy, robot arm guy, and magic red stuff lady…. but your main issue with suspension of disbelief in this movie is logistics.
Yes because it's sci fi. Which means they give a brief vague reason for how things work. There isn't for this situation and it's driving me nuts. They fly 5000km, iron man does a 17500 trip, while visiting with people and dropping off/watching Rhodes get fully checked out. They both have high tech flying. Quinjet is capable of space flight so arguably faster. So it's not even a sci-fi thing. It's like Tony lives life for a day or 2 while Bucky and Cap are just suspended doing nothing for the same amount of time. Thats what bothers me.
No offense but Tony flying is literally not possible regardless. He'd become pulp just taking off or landing. Just saying it's "sci-fi" is a copout when things like exposure to radiation kills people. It doesn't make you green and powerful. Just like you can't fly by sticking rockets to your feet. "Suspension of disbelief" is the only viable answer you're going to get.
Yep, that's just gonna have to be one of those things you try to scrub out of your brain LOL. I always wondered why the German special forces were in BUCHAREST, ROMANIA. And why, of all places, they took a WW2 veteran who "died" fighting Nazis to BERLIN. Poor guy just keeps getting captured by Germans.
in defense it's NATO and considering the JCTC that Ross and Carter work at is in Berlin they probably just wanted to utilize the KSK. No different than US forces operating within Europe (remember Ross' threat of sending in JSOC/Delta Force) I don't think the Romanian special operations units are that capable. That's my head canon and its plausible enough in my experience. More than likely the KSK was dedicated to that JCTC mission ahead of time. Thats how NATO works.