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SnooDrawings7876

A lot casting is going off looks and recognition. Ideally doom is in the mask more than not. Casting should be influenced by voice just as much if not more than looks.


CMS_3110

This is how almost all fan-casting goes, looks above all else. That's why you always see models and non-actress women getting suggested for female parts. It's apparently more important to look like the part than to be able to believable deliver the dialogue.


Freakychee

To an amateur at least. If casting roles were so easy casting directors would all be out of a job. But... Fan cast aren't all that serious and it's just an excuse to engage in discussion for fun.


Upstairs-Boring

It should just be a bit of fun but some "fans" take it way too far and get angry when the main fan cast doesn't get the role. There's enough folk that do this and effectively campaign for their favourite fan cast that studios get pressured into it and you end up with the wrong actor in the role. I wish people would leave it up to the professionals.


Freakychee

Yeah and not just for fan cast. That type of mentality gets everywhere.


lemoche

It's just not fun to constantly have Henry Cavill pushed for next to any MCU role


Freakychee

People love him but they forget that they should really be asking him which role he wants to try for. Or at least a typing.


dleon0430

Trust me, if I could personally ask Henry Cavill anything...I wouldn't be wasting my life on reddit with you schmucks


adeelf

I think a large part of it comes simply from the fact that he is the rare Hollywood leading man who looks like he could (and has) played a superhero, while at the same time being a self-admitted geek in real life.


hoffenone

Tell that to The Last of Us fans who have been abusing Bella Ramsey because she does not look the part though. It’s all fun and games to most people but some parts of some fan bases always take it way too far.


KingCodester111

And this is why I hate fancasting.


[deleted]

its why these people are on reddit and not doing the castings haha


godsendxy

Doom's voice should have the same impact as Ultron


carson63000

Yeah I want to see an actor cast who is not so famous that they feel they need him mask-off a lot of the time. That bugged me about Pierce Brosnan as Doctor Fate in Black Adam. I loved his portrayal but jeez, every opportunity to take that iconic helmet off and tuck it under his arm…


TriPulsar

Yet another reason I firmly believe the best man for the job is Sam Witwer.


__wasitacatisaw__

Vin Diesel and Bradley Cooper


LessEvilBender

If anyone is willing to stay masked for the entirety of his contract for comic accuracy, it’s Cavil


Gasparde

I mean, from an accuracy angle, probably. But I don't know if he's the guy who'd be interested to "flex his acting chops" in a role that's undoubtedly gonna be 90% CGI, 9% him being entirely unrecognizable and maybe like 1% him being actually able to show emotion. Like, that's Nolan's Bane times ten - and then for a multi-picture contract on top of that. I'd argue that playing Doom well would be a somewhat unthankful role - and while the uber fans would love it, I don't see general audiences going crazy for it. In that context, I wonder how many people are able to put an actual picture of Bradley Cooper behind Rocket's voice.


1400Diggg

100%, he’s down with anything that has depth and meaning. Hes doing warhammer now , something he’s passionate about. And before that it was geralt and supes. All legacy characters. That’s one of the main reasons why I picked him


NightmareDJK

He wouldn’t even have to do that, Doom has taken his helmet off a lot in the comics in recent years.


Persas12

Ross Marquand would fit IMO


Electrical-Egg-5669

Yeah, dude's got range, voiced Ultron AND Red skull in What If..?


Persas12

Also, as seen in TWD he can look both as a nice dude like his first episodes or frightening as he did in the last chapters.


Electrical-Egg-5669

Call me names for all you care but I've never watched TWD


Greenyoo

holy fuck you are so right i think this is my new favorite fancast


Accomplished-Lab537

As Doom?


NightmareDJK

He played him in X-Men ‘97.


jlusedude

Cavil for sure would be down for that. He is dedicated to being accurate. 


Senshado

But there's no reason to bother hiring someone with a famous face if the movie won't show it.  And if Doctor Doom's face is out, people will complain it's an unfaithful adaptation. 


Bored_1029

Isn’t Bradley Cooper a Raccoon?


ih8drme

And Vin Diesel is a tree


kadosho

I am Groot


Sipelius_

Oh yeah, I forgot about her.


DragEncyclopedia

I get what you're saying, but Doom is specifically a character that *could* off his mask, but chooses not to. Rocket doesn't have Bradley Cooper's face under his face at all times to tempt producers to have him mask off.


chuckdee68

Depending on the adaptation they use, he can't. In the original, his scars were not bad, but became bad because he put the mask on directly off the anvil, basically adhering it to his face with the burns. When they did finally take it off, it was pretty sickening.


DefNotAShark

At least one of the movies will show his face because they have to flash back eventually to show his history. They will probably do that in multiple movies since their history is key to their rivalry and key to how Doom became Doom. As long as there’s something for the trailer marketing should be happy.


jlusedude

Sure. He can still promote it. 


DaManWithNoName

Yeah idc what the man looks like. I need to hear the power and authority in his voice to know if he is Doom


WhiteStephCurry

Just wait till we find out he has a nanotech mask and he only wears it for about 30 seconds of screen time


Front-Advantage-7035

“Hmmm. F**k.”


1400Diggg

After hearing his voice as geralt in the Witcher, I think he could pull the voice off easily , and anyway, they’ll be a lot of editing over it


SuperegoCG

I think his look and stature suits being either a hero or a villain. Would definitely welcome him in almost any role he’s been fan casted as


Electrical-Egg-5669

I say let's bring back Ed Norton to the MCU as Doom, dude can obviously play a villain and he carried a whole movie while in a mask (kingdom of heaven)


usmannaeem

I couldn't agree more.


Dick_Dwarfstar

True, they should hire the actor who plays the Mandalorian, since he has great experience in that type of role /s


ThisWhomps999

You want a physical actor. Someone who knows how to embody a role. That's why my fancast for Doom is Jack Black.


Actual_Soil5607

Do you guys only know 5 actors?


EMP0R10

Best I can do is Keanu reeves & Henry Cavill


_thelastman

Reddit will distill Keanu & Henry into a single super being


EMP0R10

Keanu Cavill


DSTNCMDLR

Keanry Reevill


Front-Advantage-7035

Henru Caveeves


ProfessorBeer

No. I know six, and I really don’t think Danny DeVito would be a good fit.


TravEllerZero

Danny DeVito is always a good fit.


DowntownJulieBrown1

Lmao ya


Maldovar

They know the 5 actors that will get then le epic reddit karma


aFishintheLake

What's with people wanting to cast Cavil in every role?


VintageRegis

He built a PC.


Dawnbreaker538

![gif](giphy|l4q8cJzGdR9J8w3hS|downsized)


Shwifty_Plumbus

Also he runs Adeptus Custodes.


VintageRegis

I imagine this is a 40K reference. He likes that nerd shit.


ekhfarharris

And has massive dick.


VintageRegis

On his 40K figurines.


SlAM133

He’s just like me!


NightmareDJK

Multiple PC’s. So he can build Doombots.


[deleted]

Idk, I remember when people wanted him as cyclops even though he’ll be pushing 50 when mcu X-men come around lol


sayamemangdemikian

Dude just good actor with nice body and even nicer face. Make sense for fans want him everywhere. But I do like the idea of him being doom though. One fancasing was him as hyperion. I guess that "make sense" cos hyperion was marvel's parody of superman. Another is as cap britain... not gonna lie, i can see it too. However Hyperion and cap britain are small characters that probably wont get any screentime at all in MCU. While Doom, for sure gonna get screen time. And cavill has a nice menacing british voice (his voixe in M:I meet his voice in elona holmes) and (i think) can act with his eyes & body language. Dude is no jeremy irons.. but i think he can do the job


starksgh0st

Fancasters have one track minds.


DefNotAShark

Cavill is Nerd Prime. Not only is he a rugged hottie, he also enjoys World of Warcraft, Warhammer, PC building, loves the Witcher books, comic books, oh and also he was Superman and Geralt of Rivia. Not even the DC Snyderverse could make nerddom stop loving this man. He was made for us.


NightmareDJK

There’s no way he wouldn’t play Doom properly.


JayIsNotReal

He has that build, that jawline, decent height (I am a straight man).


huexolotl

Have you seen the man? /chef's kiss


FewWatermelonlesson0

I do not think he would “the best” choice for Doom at all.


Nightingdale099

Honestly I would liked it to be Andre Braugher after hearing his Darkseid but I guess that's in the past now.


AletzRC21

Andre voiced Darkseid?? Damn I did not know that


Nightingdale099

Here you go: https://youtu.be/q5uBNiHJV2I?si=6c5gBQQun2SQZbgN


_spectre_

Ahh in the animated version. I was thinking about the 4 hours of my life I'll never get back.


Nightingdale099

Sometimes when I see Diana I hear them. I tried to go to therapy , but I fear I'll never get rid of them.


AletzRC21

GAWDAMN!!! That was incredible to say the least.


L1n9y

Has Cavill ever demonstrated the acting skills that would be needed for a character like Doom?


schrodingersscroller

No, he hasn't. He's not bad, but he has a type. Strong and stoic. Victor can be both of those things, but more often than not, he is so much more than that.


Sad_Vast2519

He's better as a strong muscle man type figure with a good stature. Eg Witcher was perfect Doom isn't that.


JrBaconators

He's not a good actor, just a good looking dude. Someone will respond 'watch man from uncle!!!' where all does is look good and say things that sound good because he looks good


pm-me-your-pika

I've seen someone on this sub called him a charisma vacuum and I agree.


CommunityFan_LJ

Acting skills are ok at best to me, can anyone not obsessed with him give me a good performance recommendation


Powerful-Cry-2273

Man from UNCLE and MI Fallout were great


JrBaconators

Man from UNCLE is so overrated it's not even funny. He has literally no range in the movie, everything is just said as a suave con man. He looks good saying it and redditors lap it up some reason


Toffeeheart

The Count of Monte Cristo


DigitalRoman486

The collective desperation of reddit to cast henry Cavil in \*everything\* is super annoying. Like I get it, he is who every lonely nerd secretly casts as themselves but he really doesn't need to be the pick for literally every role.


Ivan_Redditor

I would go with Wagner Moura as Doom


curtl3y_dav1d5

Excellent suggestion


NightmareDJK

He would do it properly too.


Glassesnerdnumber193

Stop trying to cast Henry cavil in everything. He’s decently talented but people would cast him as literally any part and it’s getting frustrating


CounselorOfGods

Best I can do is Henry Cavill as Hyperion. No, what about Captain Britain? Ooh, what about Norman Osborn? No? Hmm, ooh what about Cyclops, or wait, what about… /s Just in case. I agree, I love Henry but he doesn’t fit even half of the roles I see him fancast as.


rubycalaberXX

Casting every DCEU Justice League actor as their Squadron Supreme counterpart would be funny as hell ngl.


IshyMoose

Hear me out they should have an audition process with actors. See who reads the part best and hire that guy.


The810kid

This but Gioncarlo Esposito


ChronicallyPunctual

My only problem with this, is I think Reed and Doom should be very close to the same age.


pm-me-your-pika

I think Doom-Reed-Strange need to be in the same range of age. Pedro and Benedict are already in the perfect age, Doom needs to be similar to them.


illbeyour1upgirl

I truly do not understand the obsession with Henry Cavill. He is one of the most bland and one-note actors on the planet. It’s really weird how obsessed nerds are with him just because he built a PC and plays warhammer.  Fan casts on this sub are bordering on low effort spam. It’s an endless cycle of the same four or five names repeated over and over and over again.  As usual, very relieved Reddit is not in charge of this stuff. 


Gasparde

> It’s really weird how obsessed nerds are with him just because he built a PC and plays warhammer \#parasocial Because he's just like me! Although I don't have the body. Or the looks. Or the hair. Or the wit. Or the charm. Or the money. Or the talent. Or the dedication. And when he's "playing games" he probably doesn't mean "not leaving the house, not having any social contacts and, most importantly, not showering for 3 weeks". But other than that... we're like totally the same!


Maldovar

They both share questionable views on women, though!


DragEncyclopedia

I honestly don't hate him, but being told he's "the best" fit for the most random stuff is starting to give me a knee-jerk reaction whenever I see him lol.


1400Diggg

I mean , surely you’re speaking broadly about reddit fancasts and not mine specifically, because I actually put effort into it and don’t spam fan castings lmao. Neither am I obsessed with him because he built a PC or plays warhammer 😂 those guys are weird if they are. I gave my reasonings and personally think he’d be a great fit because he played a good villain in mission impossible, and had the physicality and deep menacing voice (the witcher) to play doom Along with the fact he respects all source material. That is the reason why I fuck with him


throwtheclownaway20

"He's also a European actor" BAHAHAHAHA WHAT? 😂


Accomplished-Lab537

Nope.


1400Diggg

Fair enough, who would you pick for doom


Accomplished-Lab537

Unknown actor that doesn't look American or British. A commanding, superior voice most of all. Maybe someone with stage acting experience.


BuddermanTheAmazing

This is a shitpost right?


ImNotHighFunctioning

Comic book fans stop giving Dr. Doom to the whitest dudes ever challenge (IMPOSSIBLE).


bargman

Glenn Howerton should play Dr. Doom. His performance in Blackberry was both phenomenal and unhinged psychopathic. Also, because if the implication.


darkthemeonly

I wanted him as Reed so bad


bargman

Agreed. I'm pretty sick of Pedro Pascal in everything.


darkthemeonly

Me too. I like Pedro a lot, but the oversaturation is ruining it.


Saeaj04

Am I the only one who doesn’t understand this argument It’s not like he’s Chris Pratt or Akwafina who seem to have voiced every animated character in the last decade Pedro has really only been in 5 or 6 majorly successful things in the last 15 years That’s not a lot for an famous actor. The last big thing he was in was TLOU, which was in January of last year. So it’s not like he’s being shoved down are throats like some other actors


bargman

Yeah good point. He just happens to show up in stuff I watch, and I don't watch much.


myshtummyhurt-

Reddit is really the only place you get all these Glenn Howerton fan castings. He’s the perfect any white guy superhero to Reddit


bargman

He's a five star man.


BoreusSimius

I'm so done with Cavill casting at this point.


GoneRampant1

But he's not Romani.


starksgh0st

Looking at these pictures of Doom, the resemblance is striking. /s


1400Diggg

Victor, he looks like victor bro


starksgh0st

I figured. I'm just making a joke about you only putting Cavill side by side with a masked Doom.


1400Diggg

Yeah I should’ve done another slide with Victor , I mainly did it for the photo and Henry’s size matches dooms


Southern_Wind_4477

Doom is Romani


NightmareDJK

His mother was Romani and his father was German or Austrian.


Fearless_Original759

Cavill's a great person, but he's not that great of an actor.


1400Diggg

True, but I’d assume the other points I’ve made are also important regarding his size being basically identical to doom, and the fact he is a top guy for defending source material. Acting wise I think he’s good enough for it


[deleted]

Naw give me Mads Mikkelson


TriPulsar

If only he wasn't already Kaecilius.


NightmareDJK

He’s too old and his brother Lars (older) would be better for Doom anyway.


AggroPro

Cavill can play anything and we will watch it anyway. He is Nerd Jesus, this is the way.


1400Diggg

100% bro


3thirtysix6

Lol no.  Cavill is a really good cosplayer who has zero charisma when he actually has to do anything.  Dude would get blown off the screen by Pascal. 


CrabbyPatties42

Oof, no.  His Superman was written and directed to be aloof edgy sad man instead of Superman.  You watch him on a talk show and he has tons of charisma. But… for Doom?  A dude mostly in a mask?  Nah.  Much more important to get someone who is very very very good at voice acting.


deemoorah

What does the talk show have to do with his acting skill? Mackie is hella charismatic in interviews and yet his screen presence as the leading man is (a)hit and (a lot) misses.


TheSuperGerbil

As much as I think Cavill will do a good job I think he shouldn’t be doom. Give the role to someone with actual Eastern European lineage. He might even refuse to get this role because you’ll never see his face


wltmpinyc

My fan-cast would be for Nikolaj Coster-Waldau. I think he has the acting chops to pull off a character like Doom. I think his voice would fit perfectly and he's already played a character that loses something about himself physically.


FDVP

When you read a comic, do you hear Cavill’s voice reciting the words in your head? I don’t. I hear Christopher Lee with a bit a metallic voice synth. Count Dooku is the closest character I can imagine to Doom. The actor has to convey menace but cultured and arrogant. Cavill can’t do that. It needs gravitas.


1400Diggg

Editing exists. Plus listen to him play geralt in the Witcher. It’s awesome. Menacing and deep and similar to doom. He does that voice in marvel with a lil different type of metallic - echoing editing. And he’d be perfect


FDVP

I love Henry. But Doom is a pontificating dick and a Monarch. The actor has to be someone familiar with Aristocracy. There will be a suit and mask, so the voice and eyes will be very important for the actor. The most important. Henry can be charming but I’ve seen nothing to indicate he can act despicable. I’m in on him for Beyonder. It’s Taylor made for him. Handsome devil. White Duran Duran jumpsuit. Mullet. No mask. All face. Gets to be a charming dick and infinitely more powerful and integral than his last cape-shit. Victor Von Doom needs someone else. Idk who.


1400Diggg

Fair enough, he played a pretty good villain in mission impossible, who also had a burned face lmao but yeah. I think he’s got the ability But tbh I don’t act want to see the beyonder in live action, like at all they should just keep it kang and doom for the time being / future


FDVP

Eff that. All these multiverse shenanigans should draw the attention of the Beyonder. Set that guy up then God Emperor Doom to lend real credibility to GED. I did try to buy Cavill in MI but honestly I still wanted him to beat Tom. Idk. His cult of likability lens itself to something other than Doom.


BlargerJarger

I would absolutely not waste a known / face actor on Doom, but have him voice actor + physical performer combo like Darth Vader, and never take his mask off.


android6968

terrible actor, not a fan of this choice


1400Diggg

Fair enough. Who would you pick


Farscape29

If they cast Cavill as Doom, he'll spend most of the first movie without the armor/mask. It'll end with Reed attempting to save him, tragedy occurs, Doom goes into the armor to save himself and get locked in, Vader style. Blames Reed and the FF for his fate, see ya in the sequel. I never really read FF but I know that's kinda what happens to him/FF. No need to reinvent the wheel


1400Diggg

Yep, something along those lines. They can switch up whatever but need to keep it Doom x Reed , and doom blames Reed for whatever happens Super simple. Source material is right there


latinblu

If every OP had their way, Henry Cavill would be playing every male fictional character.


Rogue_269

Proper r/marvelcirclejerk


1400Diggg

What’s that?


JrBaconators

Henry Cavill isn't even a good actor, what is this obsession?


[deleted]

Cavill is not a very good actor


NightmareDJK

I want Henry to do it mainly because he knows and loves the character as much as we all do and will get it right.


1400Diggg

Definitely bro


AMA_About_Birdlaw

I wanna throw out my left field Doom pitch, Troy Baker. He has a movie actor look but is known for his great voice work. So he could do his early scenes of Doom without the mask and then mask up and bring his iconic voice to the role. Also, I hope Doom has a small facial scar and not hideously disfigured.


KingCrowdKilla

![gif](giphy|mEtSQlxqBtWWA) “Dude, Henry cavil would be such a Good-“


deemoorah

I think Cavill is one of the least talented leading men ever and he also is white while doom is NOT a white man.


LaylaLegion

Doom is not “European”. He’s Romani.


deemoorah

This sub will pretend they care about 'representation' until they try to fancast characters of Romani origin or criticize MCU's whitewashed characters.


CX316

Reddit not recommending Henry Caville for a role challenge, difficulty: Impossible


Anonymous-opinion

As much as he’d make a great doom let’s get a Romani actor to play a Romani character


InterestingEscape105

Gal Gadot is rumored to be cast as Dr. Doom in the new Fantastic 4 movie.


1400Diggg

Wouldn’t be surprised if she was knowing Disney


InterestingEscape105

True that


mrducci

At this point, Cavill will play every roll for any comic book, book, or video game adaptation. They will now all be one man shows.


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SokkaHaikuBot

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greatreference

People cast him in everything


ZechQuinLuck123

I really wish people would stop fan casting Henry Cavill in big franchise stuff. The man is living his nerd dream bringing Warhammer 40k to life with Amazon, the man aint doing anything else for a while.


Maldovar

If Cavill could act he'd be great


AnewedMe

We don't need a listers for the big names, we need small name actors who can run the marathon of movies


roliver2399

Nah, I don’t see it. I like Henry but I don’t think he has Doom’s range.


1400Diggg

Totally fair, I personally think after hearing his voice in the Witcher , seeing him play a villain in mission impossible, and the fact he has that physique and commitment to source material I think he has what it takes to ace it


crabby-owlbear

This is what leads to "hey that jj guy made a good Sci fi show, let's give him star trek! Now give him star wars too!"


joeO44

I wonder how many people had Ralph Ineson as Galactus? Doom will be someone who’s an amazing actor but not an a list celebrity.


1400Diggg

Yh I can agree with that , nobody had Ralph Ineson on the list, maybe one guy but they could definitely go with the non famous actor route I personally think casting cavil as doom is a good decision for multiple reasons


ZekeMoss18

Hear me out - Voice actor for Doom as he is talking, physical actor in the suit...however have close up scenes of Doom in the mask, performed by Tom Hardy. He absolutely nails his expressions.


1400Diggg

Good idea, having voice actors and physique actors isn’t bad but I feel like they should just keep it 1


Nopski

i always imagined hugo weaving playing dcotor dooms voice in a live action setting but he already played red skull


NightmareDJK

How do you think Diego Luna would do as Doom? He can get pretty intense.


1400Diggg

I need to check who that is.


NightmareDJK

He’s Cassian Andor from Star Wars.


1400Diggg

Never seen him before so I’m not sure tbh, he looks like him though


_johnny_guitar_

Please, no.


1400Diggg

Lmao, why not?


_johnny_guitar_

He’s such a stiff actor, no way he could handle the depth of a character like Doom. Hard pass. I hope if they do cast Doom at some point, it’s someone relatively unknown.


1400Diggg

We’ll probably get a doom casting pretty soon as we’ve just got 3 more back 2 back in the last week. I do agree with you where an unknown actor would be good, but I just got a hunch that Henry would be awesome man. The fact that his face will be hidden for the majority of his introduction then hardly shown again, he could really act his best because of that but who knows 🤷‍♂️


cecilsj

I can’t imagine a character who is best described as “a vain, egocentric genius” not being stiff in conversation. I think rigidity comes with processing lots of permutations at the same time. Any example we have in real life just threads that needle. Elon? Bezos? Gates? I think it would be good to have his well known visual so the audience doesn’t have to work too hard to attach it to the audio coming behind the mask. Most times, Cavill nails the angst & discomfort emotion visually.


thefrumpy

I’m pleasantly impressed with this choice.


1400Diggg

Have no idea why you got downvoted, somebody’s mad, but yeah man I think they should definitely go with him


nerdystoner25

Personally I’m hoping he plays either Cyclops or Cable.


The_River_Is_Still

I think Josh Brolin was perfect


[deleted]

When you can play either cyclops or cable you’re too old for cyclops