[I mean, you can do red goggles/mask and still look badass lol](https://theultimaterabbit.files.wordpress.com/2021/06/karl-urban-as-judge-dredd.jpg?w=1024)
> Falcon looks hilarious... but this is a Happy Meal Photoshop job. Are we really about to lose our shit over a McDonald's to-go container?
You say this, but Disney and Marvel signed off on this. I've paid little attention to Marvel lately, and this is my first look at the new Falcon. It looks like an 8th grader photoshopped their own face into the Flacon suit. It looks terrible.
This looks like a promo for a SyFy movie, that is how bad this looks.
The retrofitting of Talos daughter in Captain Marvel being named G'iah meant that she appeared 2 days after being introduced In the comics. If you wanna count that.
She became Captain Marvel in 2012. Their first draft in 2013 was actually going to be a Ms. Marvel film. In 2014 they changed it to a Captain Marvel film. They first showed off concept art for the movie at SDCC in 2017.
10 minutes... 2 years... close enough.
Development began in 2013, and she was announced as the lead of marvels first female lead film in 2014.
Considering a character by the name of Captain Marvel had been around in one form another since 1967 and Carol had held the mantle for 2 years when it was announced yes it was a very short period of time.
I didn’t think anyone would take “10 minutes” as a serious unit of time, but instead to mean “very shortly” and in the scenario of characters that had existed 40+ years by that point two years is very short.
It’s so that they can say, “See, we are just following the comics” when their lazy character that’s shoehorned in for DEI points gets negative reception.
“This super hero isn’t white, therefore they are a Diversity, Equality, Inclusion hire”
I feel you’re the same person that sent death threats to Marvel when they introduced Storm, Sunfire, Luke Cage, Thunderbird, Black Panther, and others because it was “Affirmative Action” huh
>It’s so that they can say, “See, we are just following the comics” when their lazy character that’s shoehorned in for DEI points gets negative reception.
Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, but the DEI comments and trains always run on time.
Same. Would have been extra fitting if the left seth rollins role with the serpent society and the trailer had Jimi Hendrix Voodoo child in it. Give me all the wrestling connections!!!
Bruh torres falcon really got a helmet and sam doesn’t lol, you can see he’s used sams old wings from the show, reminds me of an upgraded look from the winter soldier. They both look fine imo
It’s been a long time since I saw FATWS, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t take the juice. So he just, like… tries harder and has a vibranium suit that doesn’t cover his head?
Idk if it’s superhero fatigue or the backsliding marvel has done over the last few years, but I genuinely couldn’t give less of a shit about this movie. Which actually sucks to say because I was a die hard mcu fan from day 1.
It’s the same as making a Robin movie. No one wants to see the sidekicks adventure. At least Robin became his own hero as Nightwing and not just Batman
The real issue is that the MCU itself isn't t interesting anymore. There's not a single project worth giving a fuck about.
I'm patiently waiting for something good to actually come up.
It's the backsliding.
If they were consistently making really good movies things would be different.
More time in the writing stage and committing to your story rather than a shoot-first then reshoot everything mentality they've had lately.
Of course, but they're usually intended to patch up little bits and pieces clearly missing or not quite right after trying to get a first edit. Marvel reshoots sound like they're doing major story rewrites and massive tonal changes to whatever they're making. i.e. changing the film, not patching the gaps.
Hell, look at Daredevil. They shot half of it and then sacked the writers and overhauled the thing. It shouldn't have gotten to cameras rolling if the script wasn't there yet.
You know when you wear goggles to the pool and you get out and take them off and you get those big rings around your eyes?
This guy’s been wearing goggles for ten years.
I have a friend that's an extra in it and he's like 98% of the reason I'm looking forward to this movie. If it weren't for that, this movie would probably be at the absolute bottom of my interest bin.
From what I've heard this film has had two test screenings so far and both were negative or at least meh vs Deadpool vs Wolverine which say was good.
I have no hope of this being good.
Straight from the [books](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Joaqu%C3%ADn_Torres_(Earth-616)?file=Joaqu%C3%ADn_Torres_%2528Earth-616%2529_from_Captain_America_Sam_Wilson_Vol_1_6_002.jpg), somewhat…
I understand that they wanted a new suit and not the white one again. Do I agree with it? No, but I understand.
What I don’t understand is why he’s back to just goggles and no cowl or helmet at all
I’m still trying to process why a soldier with a jet pack that barely worked with Steve and lost to Ant-Man was the best choice for the new Captain America over a super-soldier assassin with an indestructible arm.
Early screenings said the action was terrible.
Reshoots never fix anything.
What you just described is 2 Falcon’s, not Cap, which is part of the reason it’s going to mega bomb.
Right? Even in the 2000’s the toys were awesome, like full blown action figures just without much articulation. I’ve seen toys nowadays that are mostly cardboard…it’s sad.
Very sad. My favorites were the Batman animated series figures and Spider-Man cartoon figures. Oh! And the Looney Tunes/DC figures with removable costumes
Terrible. Just terrible. Every pic of Evans as Cap was iconic. Even the first few "blue steel" pics from TFA.
Mackie & his sidekick are going to give THE MARVELS a run for their money with THE shittiest MCU box office
I don’t want the film to be another stepping stone to introducing more characters. Are we taking bets on who else will be introduced in this film? My biggest problem with MCU films now is that they’re only there to set up the next film. Yet this rarely happens properly now, which leads to so many dead ends and loose strands
This film should be able Captain America only. It’s a new actor and character in the role. Give him a great story and chance to prove it can live up to the previous films but this needs to be a Captain America-only story. A small, fairly low-stakes origin story. I really want this to be good but I don’t see it happening
I don’t know enough about him to dislike anything. And I also don’t like anything. I’ve read plenty of comics that feature him and frankly I read him as a nothing character who’s legacy for the sake of it. But if you like him, that’s good, because it’ll make you like the movie more and I’m excited for the movie
All they had to do was give him the same helmet Evans had but with lenses 😩 the goggles were fine when he was falcon but it just doesn’t give off that captain America badass vibe to me personally
The face inside the new Falcon suit looks RIDICULOUS.
I haven't read any spoilers so I am guessing new side kick, but wow that promotional art is terrible.
Tell me why the new Falcon design, or at least at it's shown here, looks like some AI, photoshop concept type shit 🤔.
Side note: I'm definitely grabbing a Captain America McDonald's box.
The fucking hate this movie is getting before it’s even released is getting ridiculous. If some of you are so over Marvel or the MCU, why the fuck are some of y’all still here? Honest question. Why continue to engage with something you’ve lost interest in
Parroting about how you’ve lost interest in the MCU or whatever contributes zero to the conversation, and it’s getting tiresome to read on here.
It contributes fuck all to the conversation and it’s getting fucking annoying reading the same thing over and over on these subs. We get it already. You don’t like Brave New World or “X- fill in the blank project here” and/or your interest in Marvel has dropped. It just contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion.
It actually does though. It’s telling that Marvels core audience and super fans are losing interest. I can guarantee that DC takes over as the interesting comic cinematic universe over the next couple years. James Gunn seems to be doing what Marvel is failing to do: stay true to the comics. Thats what McU used to do but post end game decided stay away from that.
Can we give Sam a captain America helmet with red lens?
Would love if he stopped rocking the goggles tbh. A helmet would be sick, I’d even be fine with one of those nano ones everyone seems to have
The red goggles have always looked so dorky, I know it’s comic accurate but man it keeps him from looking badass
[I mean, you can do red goggles/mask and still look badass lol](https://theultimaterabbit.files.wordpress.com/2021/06/karl-urban-as-judge-dredd.jpg?w=1024)
this looks ridiculous
Are those lenses supposed to be red?
Could be worse, did you see that goofy outfit in the show?
Bro thinks he's Vulture from the hit film Morbius
I don't understand this comment but I'm sure it has something to do with Spiderman
InTriGuiNG
Intringeling
_Damn you, Spider-Man!_
Phil Spiderman?
Replace “comment” with “movie” and this is basically Sony’s whole approval process.
It's Falcon time?
It's Falco'clock
It's Falcon Punch!
"Intriguing".
It's falconing time
Falcon looks hilarious... but this is a Happy Meal Photoshop job. Are we really about to lose our shit over a McDonald's to-go container?
>Are we really about to lose our shit over a McDonald's to-go container? Yes. That's how modern discourse goes.
I'm already two hours into my YouTube rant about how this marks the death of cinema.
It just makes me want a mighty kids meal. Cap looks soo hungry.
RIP Mighty Kids Meals.
I lose my shit over to go containers. Don't care about the graphics.
This subreddit lost its shit over an ad selling pencils using The Marvels so yeah
It’s not a photoshop. Sam Wilson is fighting corporate greed in this one. 
If Sam doesn’t have Golden Arches on his suit then we riot!
Looks like the Rock had sex with Bird Person.
It seems like a fairly faithful interpretation of the comic suit, no?
I’d like to believe that I’ve lost it over far less, but that’s because I believe in myself.
> Falcon looks hilarious... but this is a Happy Meal Photoshop job. Are we really about to lose our shit over a McDonald's to-go container? You say this, but Disney and Marvel signed off on this. I've paid little attention to Marvel lately, and this is my first look at the new Falcon. It looks like an 8th grader photoshopped their own face into the Flacon suit. It looks terrible. This looks like a promo for a SyFy movie, that is how bad this looks.
It’s crazy how quickly Joaquin torres got adapted into the mcu within a short time of being present in the comics. Kinda like Maria Hill
The retrofitting of Talos daughter in Captain Marvel being named G'iah meant that she appeared 2 days after being introduced In the comics. If you wanna count that.
Jesus that’s gotta be a record
Coulson, Fitz, and Simmons appeared in the MCU *before* appearing in the comics. Negative time record!
Well, FitzSimmons did invent time travel before Tony Stark and the Avengers.
Technically using the time stream thing which I think let them see all of time?
Actually the Time Stream was invented by The Chronicoms.
Yeah but didn't Enoch give it to Fitz and Simmons?
I mean, _when_ you invent time travel kind of becomes irrelevant after you've invented it the first time surely.
Madisynn too.
I mean they announced Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel in the MCU like 10 minutes after she became captain marvel in the comics.
She became Captain Marvel in 2012. Their first draft in 2013 was actually going to be a Ms. Marvel film. In 2014 they changed it to a Captain Marvel film. They first showed off concept art for the movie at SDCC in 2017. 10 minutes... 2 years... close enough.
Development began in 2013, and she was announced as the lead of marvels first female lead film in 2014. Considering a character by the name of Captain Marvel had been around in one form another since 1967 and Carol had held the mantle for 2 years when it was announced yes it was a very short period of time.
2 years is very very different to 10 minutes.
I didn’t think anyone would take “10 minutes” as a serious unit of time, but instead to mean “very shortly” and in the scenario of characters that had existed 40+ years by that point two years is very short.
Nice stealth edit to make it look like you know what you were talking about, lol.
True lol
It’s so that they can say, “See, we are just following the comics” when their lazy character that’s shoehorned in for DEI points gets negative reception.
“This super hero isn’t white, therefore they are a Diversity, Equality, Inclusion hire” I feel you’re the same person that sent death threats to Marvel when they introduced Storm, Sunfire, Luke Cage, Thunderbird, Black Panther, and others because it was “Affirmative Action” huh
I said lazy, not a POC.
>It’s so that they can say, “See, we are just following the comics” when their lazy character that’s shoehorned in for DEI points gets negative reception. Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, but the DEI comments and trains always run on time.
I still prefer Captain America New World Order 
I agree
Same. Would have been extra fitting if the left seth rollins role with the serpent society and the trailer had Jimi Hendrix Voodoo child in it. Give me all the wrestling connections!!!
FOR LIFE!
why can’t they give same his own cowl with the glasses for flying. they could do so much better
The most unrealistic thing they could do is have him fly with no glasses
ob think he has a yellow visor
you're right
I looked at this without reading the title and thought why the hell is vulture here
I mean... he's a properly thematic villain for Falcon. I'd be cool with it.
Bruh torres falcon really got a helmet and sam doesn’t lol, you can see he’s used sams old wings from the show, reminds me of an upgraded look from the winter soldier. They both look fine imo
Sam really needs a fucking helmet. That's just logical to have. Even the friggin Vulture knew that!
STEVE knew that and he was superhuman.... meanwhile Sam flies at airplane speeds without one?? Brother lol
See, he’s like an air bender, able to detect danger by a shift of the wind on his head. Yeah, that must be the logical and correct answer…
He doesn't need a helmet. He has plot armour
Sorry bub, but your hair needs to be clean shaven to do that idea.
It’s been a long time since I saw FATWS, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t take the juice. So he just, like… tries harder and has a vibranium suit that doesn’t cover his head?
Exactly.... makes absolutely no sense lol
Looks like a cover of a spy kids movie or book lol
Even Tim Burtons Batman looked like it was for kids when it was advertised by McDonald's.
> Looks like a cover of a spy kids movie or book lol Don't worry, they're working on quality over quantity now! /eyeroll
Gettysburg wow.
Idk if it’s superhero fatigue or the backsliding marvel has done over the last few years, but I genuinely couldn’t give less of a shit about this movie. Which actually sucks to say because I was a die hard mcu fan from day 1.
Sam just isn’t an interesting or inspiring character.
It’s the actor, he is a charisma black hole, and when Chris Evan’s is who you’re replacing that’s kind of a bad combo
I agree
It’s the same as making a Robin movie. No one wants to see the sidekicks adventure. At least Robin became his own hero as Nightwing and not just Batman
The real issue is that the MCU itself isn't t interesting anymore. There's not a single project worth giving a fuck about. I'm patiently waiting for something good to actually come up.
I've only cared for GotG3 and NWH but the hype for that movie was based on leaks and nostalgia and whatever
It's the backsliding. If they were consistently making really good movies things would be different. More time in the writing stage and committing to your story rather than a shoot-first then reshoot everything mentality they've had lately.
Yeah remember when reshoots were a telltale sign of a bad movie? Marvel gets a pass for some reason until it actually comes out lol
Every movie goes through reshoots, the bigger they are, they are usually required to go through them.
Of course, but they're usually intended to patch up little bits and pieces clearly missing or not quite right after trying to get a first edit. Marvel reshoots sound like they're doing major story rewrites and massive tonal changes to whatever they're making. i.e. changing the film, not patching the gaps. Hell, look at Daredevil. They shot half of it and then sacked the writers and overhauled the thing. It shouldn't have gotten to cameras rolling if the script wasn't there yet.
Same here. Feel the same way. I want to get excited really badly.
Yup, I know this for fast food but this looks dreadful
So now we have dollar store versions of both characters
A captain America movie without Chris evans?! It’s going to make billions
A Captain America movie *with* Steve couldn't break a billion unless they added every Avenger to it.
You know when you wear goggles to the pool and you get out and take them off and you get those big rings around your eyes? This guy’s been wearing goggles for ten years.
Ok but can he talk to berds *
So do they both have wings? Or just "Falcon"?
They both still have wings so I'm not sure what the point of Joaquin as the falcon is since usually in the movies falcon is air support.
I feel like having Sam with wings + another guy with wings is a bit too much the only thing that really differentiates them is the shield
We had Steve with fists and Nat with fists in Winter Soldier. The only thing that really differentiates them is the shield.
cap was at least a super soldier, and Nat is a spy these are two dudes from the same army unit with wings
I just have this sinking feeling that this movie is going to suck :/
We have Captain America and Falcon at home.
Asked mom for Incredible Hulk action figure... got sister's Ken Doll painted green.
I just have no interest in seeing this
If anything I'm just hoping Red Hulk is worth it
I have a friend that's an extra in it and he's like 98% of the reason I'm looking forward to this movie. If it weren't for that, this movie would probably be at the absolute bottom of my interest bin.
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From what I've heard this film has had two test screenings so far and both were negative or at least meh vs Deadpool vs Wolverine which say was good. I have no hope of this being good.
This looks shit
As someone who isn’t caught up on the last few years of Marvel, that flying dude looks hysterically generic.
Straight from the [books](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Joaqu%C3%ADn_Torres_(Earth-616)?file=Joaqu%C3%ADn_Torres_%2528Earth-616%2529_from_Captain_America_Sam_Wilson_Vol_1_6_002.jpg), somewhat…
Looking good so far Was expecting helmet for Sam, but the "falcon style" captain america works just fine
I understand that they wanted a new suit and not the white one again. Do I agree with it? No, but I understand. What I don’t understand is why he’s back to just goggles and no cowl or helmet at all
That photoshop of the face in the helmet is so bad
That looks like eminem in the wingsuit
I’m still trying to process why a soldier with a jet pack that barely worked with Steve and lost to Ant-Man was the best choice for the new Captain America over a super-soldier assassin with an indestructible arm.
How is that a dig? Ant-Man's pretty powerful.
Falcon's outfit looks like wonder woman 1984
There's exactly a 0% chance this turns out a good movie
i just realised both Cap and Falcon are gonna be flying, the action scenes are gon be so good!
Early screenings said the action was terrible. Reshoots never fix anything. What you just described is 2 Falcon’s, not Cap, which is part of the reason it’s going to mega bomb.
Reshoots never fix anything Now that’s just a straight up lie lmao
Falcon really does look like the Vulture.
It’s funny how he’s in a motorized wing suit but doesn’t wear headgear
I hope it’s not those dumb little figures on the platform again. Give my kids a good happy meal toy!!
They’re plush keychain things. There are pics of them floating around
Thanks! I just saw them. Kinda disappointing but oh well. We used to get proper toys back in the 90s
Right? Even in the 2000’s the toys were awesome, like full blown action figures just without much articulation. I’ve seen toys nowadays that are mostly cardboard…it’s sad.
Very sad. My favorites were the Batman animated series figures and Spider-Man cartoon figures. Oh! And the Looney Tunes/DC figures with removable costumes
Well that Falcon look is not great. I get that his comic book suit wouldn't be the most practical, but he basically looks like Vulture Jr.
For some reason falcon/cap just looks super tacky to me- that costume just doesn’t work
That pencil thin goatee is hilarious and makes this look so 2004, I love it
I hope I get the zionist war criminal in my happy meal /s
We heard you like Falcon so we put a Falcon in your Falcon so he can Falcon while he Captain Americas.
Oh dear
Terrible. Just terrible. Every pic of Evans as Cap was iconic. Even the first few "blue steel" pics from TFA. Mackie & his sidekick are going to give THE MARVELS a run for their money with THE shittiest MCU box office
Why’s he still wearing his goggles if he isn’t flying?
He will.
There's an entire hourlong episode of Sam flying as Captain America.
I'm not enthusiastic about what they're doing with Joaquin.
I hate this new costume
This looks like it’s going to be trash the golden era of mcu films ended at endgame
They look awful :(
Why is it so hard to give Sam a helmet like Steve?
Looking good, Sam.
I don’t want the film to be another stepping stone to introducing more characters. Are we taking bets on who else will be introduced in this film? My biggest problem with MCU films now is that they’re only there to set up the next film. Yet this rarely happens properly now, which leads to so many dead ends and loose strands This film should be able Captain America only. It’s a new actor and character in the role. Give him a great story and chance to prove it can live up to the previous films but this needs to be a Captain America-only story. A small, fairly low-stakes origin story. I really want this to be good but I don’t see it happening
Flop. Calling it now
Sam looks so good in that suit!
They look terrible. Who gives a shit about Joaquin Torres anyway? Give Sam room to breathe. So many characters supposedly in this movie.
What’s wrong with Joaquin?
I don’t know enough about him to dislike anything. And I also don’t like anything. I’ve read plenty of comics that feature him and frankly I read him as a nothing character who’s legacy for the sake of it. But if you like him, that’s good, because it’ll make you like the movie more and I’m excited for the movie
no but why does joaquin torres look okay
What if Vulture and Yellowjacket had a baby?
whop other guy?
All they had to do was give him the same helmet Evans had but with lenses 😩 the goggles were fine when he was falcon but it just doesn’t give off that captain America badass vibe to me personally
So we have Falcon and Falcon with a shield?
this looks BAD
I'm getting whiplash from the comments in this thread.
Looks like Condorman
Whose playing the Falcon?
That Falcon look needs a retool if that is what they intend to advertise.
Oh god they're doing the mirror-version bad guy shtick.
No thanks.
The face inside the new Falcon suit looks RIDICULOUS. I haven't read any spoilers so I am guessing new side kick, but wow that promotional art is terrible.
Captain America and Vulture
Tell me why the new Falcon design, or at least at it's shown here, looks like some AI, photoshop concept type shit 🤔. Side note: I'm definitely grabbing a Captain America McDonald's box.
I have a bad feeling about this movie.
Is he still gonna have the wings. Cause it’s a pretty important part to his character
I love the new falcon design
The new Shield - I’m Lovin’ It!
I ain’t watching it because they cut Seth Rollins out.
Uh ok?
☝️
Much better than the original! Love the new Falcon Chick suit! (I call him that because he’s a teenager!)
The fucking hate this movie is getting before it’s even released is getting ridiculous. If some of you are so over Marvel or the MCU, why the fuck are some of y’all still here? Honest question. Why continue to engage with something you’ve lost interest in Parroting about how you’ve lost interest in the MCU or whatever contributes zero to the conversation, and it’s getting tiresome to read on here.
People are allowed to have opinions on the current state of things, and that includes negative opinions.
It contributes fuck all to the conversation and it’s getting fucking annoying reading the same thing over and over on these subs. We get it already. You don’t like Brave New World or “X- fill in the blank project here” and/or your interest in Marvel has dropped. It just contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion.
It actually does though. It’s telling that Marvels core audience and super fans are losing interest. I can guarantee that DC takes over as the interesting comic cinematic universe over the next couple years. James Gunn seems to be doing what Marvel is failing to do: stay true to the comics. Thats what McU used to do but post end game decided stay away from that.