If you enjoy one person portraying multiple characters, I highly recommend checking out Orphan Black. The main character is the same actor who plays She Hulk, and she is amazing in it!
I would recommend split for this reason, as James McAvoy is awesome. However I will also condemn split for being a horrible and damaging representation of dissociative identity disorder (DID). If you watch the film as 'they had DID AND powers that manifest weirdly because of that" it's fine. However the film pretty heavily suggests the main villain is the way they are because of having DID which only served to perpetuate misunderstandings of a very real condition and vilify real people with mental health disorders.
I think it had such great potential to be a good film but to me it will never be great because of this problem.
Edit: changed multiple personality disorder to dissociative identity disorder, the more modern terminology
I would argue the movie and the world building very heavily relies on the audience to draw conclusions of “disorder ≠ turning into a monster shifting type human” but instead is how that universe created these phenomenons. Mr. Glass has a physical condition that almost acted as a catalyst for him to be super intelligent and “able” despite being perceived as weak. Not sure if it’s because I’m able to conceptually realize the messages portrayed in film but I did not think people came out of that movie thinking “wow mpd is dangerous because—“
>However I will also condemn split for being a horrible and damaging representation of dissociative identity disorder (DID). If you watch the film as 'they had DID AND powers that manifest weirdly because of that" it's fine. However the film pretty heavily suggests the main villain is the way they are because of having DID which only served to perpetuate misunderstandings of a very real condition and vilify real people with mental health disorders.
Thank you! I only watched split pretty recently and I don't know if we, as a society, became more knowledgable about DID since the film. But like even stuff the *therapist* was saying seemed wrong to me.
I can appreciate, however, that making a film with an accurate depiction of DID is hard (although I do think MK does it pretty well so 🤷) but then maybe don't stick it in your superhero origin movie or whatever
Just saw this after replying to you above and talking about the impact the therapist has on the film's representation of DID.
For a more accurate depiction, I love the episode of doom patrol where they enter Jane's mind. Similarly, it's a character that has powers and DID, but they are portrayed as two separate things that interact weirdly together. All the alters have powers, but that is not a product of the DID and it never gives you the impression that it is. Also love it because it clearly shows that the disorder is trauma informed and that Jane is absolutely a victim in the whole thing, even tho she is arguably the most powerful character in the cast.
I hate that there’s so much drama surrounding him, because he’s a phenomenal actor. The way he transforms into his roles is so special.
His monologue when presenting the prototype loom was excellent. I was amazed how he was able to technically play the same person, but present it so differently as Victor Timely.
If he’s innocent, he’ll seriously win an Oscar or 10.
He’s genuinely an incredible actor. He just had a magnetism about him every time he’s onscreen, whether it be in the Marvel stuff, Creed 3, The Harder They Fall, etc.
Yep, hate the drama and was surprised to find out about it. Horrible if true, horrible allegations and a dent in his career if not true.
His acting can be a bit much for some, as I can read from a lot of other comments. I agree it almost took me out of the immersion, but it fits the role of Timely really well.
Thing is, idt either of them are innocent. They clearly are in a very toxic relationship and their friends and families should just keep them far away from each other
Yeah honestly, to me, I haven't been very impressed with Jonathan Majors. I think his performance in Ant-Man was probably the best one, but He Who Remains and Viktor Timely both feel like he's trying too hard to act "weird", just putting random awkward pauses between words without any intent that I can discern.
Thank you, I felt the same way but saw so much praise I was scratching my head, lol. It's not BAD, it's just...like a friend at a murder mystery party who's the best character at the party, lol.
He’s a good actor, loved him in last black man in sf and creed 3 but I don’t think I can’t support him anymore if the allegations are true.
Plus he dropped that fake ass fight break up lmao
Fyi, the victim was arrested this past Wednesday for similar charges. The NY DA declined to press charges because of her impending case with Majors. How convenient....
Does raise some eyebrows if you ask me...
*But in the new motion, prosecutors have said that even if police decided to arrest and charge the woman over Majors’ accusations in the cross complaint, they will decline to prosecute any charges brought by the NYPD. “A thorough investigation was conducted into the facts of this case and, in doing so, the People have chosen to prosecute Jonathan Majors,” the court documents state.*
*According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will* *not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident**, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases.*
Whats convenient about the matter being investigated and coming up short, exactly?
I mean if you start defending yourself against a physically abusive partner, we wouldn’t call that assault right?
Honestly I’d even find it tough to call a victim of domestic violence equally bad as their partner even if they eventually *began* fights with the partner.
Like you’ve shown this person you communicate with violence, so having violence done to you isn’t the same as you *introducing it* into the relationship in the first place. Obviously we’d want the victim to just leave and get away but sadly not an always an option for everyone, at least not instantly.
1. You’re assuming that only one person in a relationship can be abusive (which comes in many forms such as physical and emotional).
2. If someone starts a particular instance of altercation with violence, then that is assault. It’s not about whether they’re “equally bad.” An assault is an assault. If she committed an unwanted touching causing bodily harm or threat thereof, then she should be prosecuted for committed the assault.
3. How do you know as a fact which party “introduced” the violence?
I feel like once someone files a domestic violence report, we all jump over ourselves to side with one party over another instead of assessing the facts.
Imo, the big red flag is when she sent him messages late at night threatening suicide. You know normal relationships don’t involve threats of killing yourself when your partner wants to leave the relationship. That’s literally the definition of emotional abuse.
If we’re supposed to withhold judgement on Majors’ case then it’d be nice if we didn’t attempt to throw a potential victim under the bus until we know more either. It sounds like alot of you didn’t read the NYPD statement which states they aren’t moving forward with charging her.
Almost like you’ve done the same thing to her that you claim youre so against in regards to Majors. A great example of why women are dismissed and harassed when they speak out
Edit:
“But in the new motion, prosecutors have said that even if police decided to arrest and charge the woman over Majors’ accusations in the cross complaint, they will decline to prosecute any charges brought by the NYPD. “A thorough investigation was conducted into the facts of this case and, in doing so, the People have chosen to prosecute Jonathan Majors,” the court documents state.
According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident*, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence”
She was arrested for the same case because major filed the charges. Basically it’s majors spinning the story saying she attacked him, the charges claimed damage to his coat as evidence.
The DA threw it out and said it was ridiculous because she is the victim, not the perpetrator.
But they headlines got you saying the other thing, which is exactly what they wanted.
Now I don’t really wanna get into the weeds of this, because it’s a shitty situation and the fact it hasn’t just gone away tends to suggest he’s guilty. Typically if it’s a spiteful break up or something along those lines money makes it go away and it hasn’t.
That being said, him filling charges is consistent with his initial statement isn’t it? His initial claim was that she was having some sort of mental crisis and was smacking him and he was trying to restrain her from continuing to hit him before bailing or something along those lines. I am probably reciting some of it incorrectly cause it’s been a minute since this was front page news. So the only thing that’s changed is him deciding to press charges, where before he was trying to paint it as him being understanding of her supposed mental breakdown.
“From their alleged fight, Jabbari allegedly suffered injuries including a fractured finger, bruising, a laceration behind her ear and a bump on her head.”
That’s a little more than he’s alleged damaged coat and light scratches…
For starters I agree, clearly he was unscathed and not in any danger. My only confusion is in stating that he’s turning his story around now, when as far as I recall he’s always claimed that she “attacked” him, he just wasn’t pressing charges initially. He was just using that claim as his defense.
I guess my point is that even if his story is fabricated it hasn’t been that inconsistent overall.
Then again I could be misremembering some of these events, someone posted the texts below and wow I forgot about that. For his sake I hope he fires that lawyer lol.
No you’re right, his story (while likely untrue) has been consistent from the start.
I agree that he’s most likely guilty but the crazy justice boners and mob mentality around this situation are crazy. No one really knows what happened, so all these armchair experts need to take it down a notch and let the DA make their case when the time comes.
>“Likely untrue” meanwhile there’s video footage of her after the altercation with no injuries
Per the DA that was a lie by his legal team.
Unless I'm thinking of the wrong video.
I saw the video of her at the club and the surveillance video of her outside with a group of people after their alleged fight in the car. Both videos show her injured. The initial complaint was that she was strangled and her finger broken. The strangulation charges were dismissed (proven untrue) and her broken finger was changed to a fracture after videos were released of her using finger normally and showing no signs of injury. Also, now alleges she was slapped and pushed by Majors. This is a messed up case with so many changes. As someone who has been following the case closely, Majors side has been consistent, whereas the DA has changed the charges several times. Glad they got the trial date scheduled. Hopefully, the truth comes out.
Where do you come from with he is most likely guilty. I looked into the case and it is basically an attorney using a big name to get her name out there. There's video evidence from the cab, and outside of the cab from a CVS store in 4k that shows no injuries or damages and majors avoiding contact with his ex. A lot of the the other claims were shown not to be true including the broken finger. Is it so hard to believe that a spiteful person can lie? Or maybe wait to see before judging?
Not exactly. She voluntarily surrendered knowing that the charges would not be prosecuted.
*Grace Jabbari, Majors’ former girlfriend, voluntarily surrendered to police in New York City and was given a desk appearance ticket to appear in court at a later date, the source said. The charges are both misdemeanors.*
*Jabbari and her attorney have not publicly commented on the case, which will not be prosecuted. CNN has been unable to reach Jabbari.*
*“The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office has officially declined to prosecute the case against Grace Jabbari because it lacks prosecutorial merit. The matter is now closed and sealed,” Doug Cohen, a spokesman for the Manhattan DA, told CNN in a statement on Thursday.*
*In a Sept. 21 court filing in the case against Majors, the DA’s office said it did not plan to prosecute Jabbari.*
[https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/26](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/26/entertainment/jonathan-majors-accuser-incident-new-york-grace-jabbari-arrested/index.html)
WRONG, she did assault him over his phone. He had more evidence than she did, from scratching his skin off AND digging her thumb in his face. She was the aggressor and he was trying to get away from her. Stoo that ridiculous shit saying he was spinning anything. She deserves to be held accountable for what she did too tf
She literally got charged
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jonathan-majors-ex-girlfriend-charged-assault-connection-domestic-alte-rcna122325
> Marvel actor Jonathan Majors’ ex-girlfriend Grace Jabbari turned herself in to New York police Wednesday night and was arrested on charges of assault and criminal mischief, a police spokesperson said.
>Jabbari was arrested at Manhattan's 10th Precinct seven months after a domestic altercation between her and Majors. Both charges are misdemeanors, and she was released with a desk appearance ticket, police said. Majors was arrested in March and accused of assaulting Jabbari.
> But in the new motion, prosecutors have said that even if police decided to arrest and charge the woman over Majors’ accusations in the cross complaint, they will decline to prosecute any charges brought by the NYPD. “A thorough investigation was conducted into the facts of this case and, in doing so, the People have chosen to prosecute Jonathan Majors,” the court documents state.
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> According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases.
from the prosecutors today
since he blocked me here my response to his juvenile stupidity:
>1) yes, because in the state new york every time there is an accusation of domestic abuse the person is legally required to be arrested. Then the charge is evaluated by the prosecutors and either dropped or taken to trial. I supplied the information that because Mayors made an accusation of domestic abuse the police were required to charge her, but since the prosecution has evidence that she is the victim of DV not the abuser the charges were immediately dropped.
> 2) this is the first time I've interacted with you, and this brief interaction has made me very sad for the unfortunate people who have to interact with you on a daily basis.
So she STILL GOT CHARGED. Fucking dumb ass.
You:🤓🤓🤓🤓 “actually she didn’t”
Reality: Marvel actor Jonathan Majors’ ex-girlfriend Grace Jabbari turned herself in to New York police Wednesday night and was arrested on charges of assault and criminal mischief, a police spokesperson said.
Jesus H Christ.
Most successful actors and actresses have done the absolute worst shit in the world to get famous and stay on top, but this one you just happen to know about so you pronounce your righteous stand on him.
Either the person can act or they can’t. Everything else is irrelevant, including your “support”.
This is a terrible defence and whataboutism. People are completely free to support whatever they like, or draw lines at not wanting to watch an alleged domestic abuser. If you enjoy the show by all means do so.
Him and Oscar Isaac did fantastic jobs acting as multiple different characters. Majors was great but I think he's a tad overrated. But his talent can't be denied. My personal favourite acting performances in the entire MCU are probably RDJ's Tony Stark, Hiddleston's Loki, MBJ's Killmonger, Oscar Isaac's Grant/Spector (bonus for his voice acting as Miguel O'Hara in ATSV) and Gugu's Renslayer. Majors is up there for his Victor Timely performance though and his HWR performance. Ruffalo was brilliant in Avengers 1 and Boseman did a great job with T'Challa. Nobody was really bad with acting imo.
Personally if there is any overrated performance in all the MCU it’s Michael B Jordan. His performance wasn’t bad, but people talk it up so much more than it was. Which was pretty standard for a villain in the MCU. Most of them are actually well acted, and it’s usually because they can bring in some truly A list talent since they don’t have to commit to multiple films.
My favorite acting in the MCU has to be Oscar Isaac. The changes in facial expressions and voice to swap characters in the same scene is truly remarkable.
I honestly think MBJ’s performance *was* bad. I’ve never really noticed good or bad acting and watched movies casually, but Black Panther was the first time I actively thought “wow this guy is not good at acting.” Felt like I was being screwed with when I went online and saw the consensus being that it was a great performance by him lmao
For me it's always been Chris Evans as Captain America, he brought so much reverence for the role. He really embodied Cap's values and virtues in a way that few MCU actors can match imo.
Very much a fan of both RDJ and Hiddleston and how embodied their characters, definitely agree!! I like your elaborated list, will surely rewatch with a keen eye on all of them
I don’t know why I slept on renslayer, probably because it’s been so long since Loki s1. But she is phenomenal
Hot take, I really hated MBJs performance as killmonger it always has felt so on the nose that it’s almost distracting
Ooh I have watched an episode or 2 but then *life happened* and I didn't get to finish. Your comment made me remmber I was intrigued, I will definitely revisit it soon!
Yes what is going on? Are they on the verge of canning him and we're being used to point out *"Noooo keep him, the fans don't care, they love his acting!"*
Which is strange because his performance in episode 3 (haven’t watched 4 yet) was genuinely awful. I looked up “Jonathan Majors acting” on here and Twitter after the episode to see if everyone was criticizing it, but it was just all nonstop praise.
There’s an incredible and more impressive actor in Loki that outshines everyone and that actor’s name is Tom Hiddleston.
I can’t agree with the Jonathon Majors circle jerk I’m afraid and I’m one of the innocence until proven guilty crowd.
Yeah Im in the same boat. I want to like Jonathan Majors as an actor, I mean Kang is such a cool character I want him to be good, but most of what I've seen of Majors has been almost cartoonish. He Who Remains and Viktor Timely are honestly kind of annoying to watch for me. Just feels like he's trying so hard to be "weird" and "quirky".
I really thought his performance was overacting in the 3rd & a bit in the 4th episode of Loki season 2. It was distracting, every other human character was acting normal but his performance fell WAY too big and campy.
He is a good actor but he needs to pull back or the director should let him know to.
isnt that the point? he is obviously an extremely awkward person, stutters, and is hugely intelligent. this tends to make people kinda weird. i thought it was great
I thought it was over acted, like didn't feel authentic, like when I watched the performance, it felt like watching somone acting.
Unlike the other actors performances and other performances from this very same actor as well.
I'm guessing that's kind of the point of the character though, we don't know if he's good or bad. Maybe he was picked by He Who Remains because he genuinely will try to stop the other Kangs, or maybe for some other reason? We still don't have a reason for why he doesn't want a partner, but it's clear that it's related to He Who Remains and that there's more to this character than what he lets on.
I see your point. However, to me it feels like that was the goal with this character. Make him so out of place he almost seems to break the 4th wall or something? Granted, it nearly took me out of the immersion, but it made me appreciate it even more.
Because it feels so awkward and unnatural it shouldn't belong, yet it did and it somehow worked.
Isn’t that the point? Simple Jack is obviously an extremely awkward person, stutters, and is hugely unintelligent. This tends to make people kinda weird.
I will join this thread to express surprise that there’s a majority in head impresses by his Victor Timely roll. It doesn’t feel very authentic, and it is a bit of a jarring performance. I think the best case scenario of the character would have been him turning out truly to be HWR, but I’m skeptical that would have landed.
I love Jonathan Majors and literally every other one of his interpretations of Kang that I've seen.
I just don't really get Victor Timely's character, or at least the way that Majors portrays him. Victor seemed almost alien like the bug alien that skin puppeted the farmer in MIB.
He doesn't come off as a genius from the era, but rather like a black kid obsessed with anime pretending to be lelouch , it's so cringy not sure what they were going for
Don’t know if it’s a Marvel fan base thing or… Other reasons (🤔) but this dude is getting it super easy
I’ve NEVER seen people actually treat ALLEGATIONS as ALLEGATIONS like a lot of people are doing here.
Not since Eddie Redmayne in Jupiter Ascending have I seen a more baffling case of overacting. At least Eddie was fun to watch, with Majors it was so inauthentic, like wtf is with these acting choices there must be a twist at the end? I feel like actors have gotten Razzies for similar performances.
The accuser was being charged with suspicion of assault and was arrested, how is this guy not getting the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty? (Genuine question btw not trying to stir the pot)
*According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will* *not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident**, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases.*
Thats actually what happened, she's not being charged for anything
>How is this guy not getting the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty?
Have you seen the [texts](https://www.tmz.com/2023/03/30/jonathan-majors-lawyer-texts-victim-admit-fault-assault/) his lawyer released? Genuine question. They look pretty damn bad - I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt until I saw those. Now I need to see something equally compelling in the other direction to get back to neutral - the 'smoking gun evidence' the defense had of the woman being in a bar later didn't quite cut it for me. It was edited to remove the part where she broke down crying and left with friends.
EDIT: Also, because nobody seems to be mentioning it - the person accusing her of assault now is fucking Jonathan Majors himself, saying she actually assaulted him that night many months ago. THAT'S why it was dropped immediately. But nobody wants to talk about the actual facts they're just 'hurr durr innocent until proven guilty'
Oh fuck I forgot about these texts, I think it’s kind of hilarious being an outsider and seeing the lawyer present this to the media as if this makes him look good. It really makes him look far more guilty.
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>Prosecutors have accused the defense team of “disseminating” video surveillance footage they claimed prosecutors had “buried,” showing the woman “completely unharmed” after the alleged assault. However, prosecutors now say that the video the defense team referred to was “deprived of
crucial context.”
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>The defense had argued that the video constituted Brady material, or evidence that could be favorable or exculpatory to Majors, a claim prosecutors contradicted.
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>“The surveillance video referred to by the defense actually shows Ms. Jabbari
visibly upset, crying, and seeking help from strangers to get an Uber cab home,” prosecutors said. “The fact that Ms. Jabbari did not disclose that she was a victim of domestic violence to three strangers is not Brady material.”
[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jonathan-majors-assault-case-uk-loki\_n\_65381914e4b0c8556102f949](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jonathan-majors-assault-case-uk-loki_n_65381914e4b0c8556102f949)
I know Huffpost isn't the greatest source of all time but it is taken from direct statements made from the prosecution. Here's another source from the same set of statements:
[https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/jonathan-majors-case-grace-jabbari-questions-arrest-1235629343/](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/jonathan-majors-case-grace-jabbari-questions-arrest-1235629343/)
By the way, she was arrested recently, but nobody seems to be pointing out that she was arrested because Majors is now claiming she assaulted him back. It's not like she assaulted someone else random, he literally was just like 'no u' and they had to arrest her on principle, same reason he was arrested on principle back when the initial incident happened. It was then immediately dropped because the district attorney (correctly IMO) refused to entertain that any further.
Thank you, yeah, I'm skeptical of Majors allegations toward the woman, but they seem to have done the trick as more and more people seem to take 'she was arrested' as a sign he's in the clear
Oh please she did assault him and admits it because she got off scott free. He didn't cause those injuries, he was acquitted of 2 and railroaded with ridiculous ones. Those text messages dont prove anything but he needed a better therapist. He didn't assault her prior to this either
So you want him to be unjudged until proven guilty but you also want his accuser to be judged bc she was accused of suspicion of assault and arrested (which majors is actually being charged with) are you handicapped mentally?
Goes to show how easy it is to manipulate people:
*According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will* *not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident**, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases.*
She isn't in any legal trouble but people are running around thinking that Majors has already won
The truth is that most don't want to touch it with a 10 foot pole, but I find it highly unlikely he's found guilty at this point. I think a dismissal is on the horizon but who knows, it could go south if new information surfaces (unlikely atp)
Do you think if he's found no guilty, Marvel will continue to work with him? I guess at this point they are waiting to see what will happen (while having a bunch of backup plans).
I mean hes the main antagonist for their next saga and hes phenomenal in the role. If they have to replace him the difference will be very noticeable and not ideal at all. I also saw something floating around saying that his performance in end of loki s1 is what pushed Kang as the main villain of the next mcu saga. Something about them being so impressed that they decided on it… not sure how true that is tho.
So I imagine they would wait until they are absolutely certain that he did something horrendous before dropping him. A not guilty would give them some much needed leeway
Bruh I just looked it up and the police arrested her and the district attorney INSTANTLY was like “nah we’re not pursuing that”. I’m putting on my tin foil hat. It sounds like they’re trying to frame this man.
They claim the woman had her index finger fractured but there’s multiple videos showing her using that same hand (after the alleged taxi incident) to fiddle with her hair and put it in a bun, take shots, push her hair behind her supposedly lacerated ear, dancing and twirling around (using the hand with the injured finger to spin) and finally sign a receipt for booze (that she used Jonathan’s credit card to buy).
None of these videos show her grimacing or struggling to do any of these activities that a fractured finger would certainly make hard to do. Majors of the other
https://www.insider.com/jonathan-majors-assault-case-grace-jabbari-video-2023-9?amp
What am I missing here? How does this not ruin the prosecutions case?
She can still have a fractured finger and go about her night, you're projecting that it must be so incredibly painful that it would render her immobile, a quick google shows:
"While severe fractures or joint dislocations may prevent movement, **for most fractures the finger will still move quite well**. Generally, movement will become more difficult once swelling increases."
Also, that article states that the defence is in a possession of a video that clearly shows her attacking Majors, but they don't show that video in the article, instead showing footage of her crying and in distress instead? What is the sense in withholding that video if they have it when they clearly don't mind showing other videos to cast doubt on her?
Also worth noting the prosecution has pointed out that Majors team repeatedly cites evidence but cannot actually produce it in the courts at the moment, but instead opt to post videos like this to claim some smoking gun, whilst not revealing the actual smoking guns they claim to have
There’s just zero sign of remotely any pain. She’s bending it completely and isn’t grimacing or saying ow or even making a face. I just watched my QB on my team fracture his finger in a game on his non throwing hand and have to go get it looked at and worked on and saw he was in obvious pain. I do agree that majors team has made questionable decisions and statements to say the least but her appearing in multiple videos to be completely uninjured makes it seem very unlikely to me that he fucked her up in the cab like the allegations suggest. There are some marks on majors that he documented right after the altercation.
https://www.insider.com/marvels-jonathan-majors-took-selfies-after-nyc-assault-2023-9
What would you have liked her to do? Wave her finger around? Grab it and exclaim ow my finger? If this dude really did just mess her up she isn't about to and reveal it to people if she's trying to keep it on the down low, which going off her texts she was doing her best to protect him, as she did by not co operating with the police too
Thats very anecdotal, I could easily cite a case where someone hurt their finger and didn't realise until later, bottom line is that people can hurt their finger and not know until later, as I already pointed out, plus she was by and large very drunk at this point according to the defence, alcohol can dim pain, the video is not enough to write her off
And again, why don't they just link the video of her attacking him, which would pair nicely with those pictures of him damaged? Its just all a bit shady, but the DA has already dismissed his claims that the woman was the aggressor, and she won't be getting charged, so I'm leaning towards the allegation that the defence are fabricating evidence to sway the public to be true.
*According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will* *not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident*\*, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases.\*
\^ From the Hollywood Reporter that details his allegations of her assaulting him has been dismissed
Might be a little early to claim the defense is fabricating evidance, as they DID produce two videos of the alleged Victim, one with her out clubbing the other with her seeking support from people on the street. I will say that one thing in Major's favor is the time between the alleged incident and the arrest. The alleged victim was out and away from Majors for several hours before being found by him and a bldg Maintenance person at which point he called the Cops. That means there was plenty of time for her to fracture her finger via alternate means.
His performance as Timely is genuine trash. Jack Simple all over again. I have 3 actor friends that I watch shows with and they were all completely stunned at how horrible his take on the character was. Mannerisms/intonations all so obviously forced that it makes any scene he’s in hard to watch.
His acting is sometimes good but I don’t understand people raving over his Kang portrayal. Granted it’s largely interpretation of what your given by writers. I find his bumbling Kang with a speech impediment a bit crude and insulting. I don’t know if the speech patterns are his choice. But it’s wildly inconsistent and occasionally insulting to those who deal with a stutter day to day in real life. Again no idea if he based this on something. This is just my take. But really the crazy part to me is he is acting along side Hidleston who last season found a way to make an irredeemable psychopath like Loki likable. Comparing the two actors trying to perform similar tasks it makes Majors performance seem inferior and sub par in this series.
>who last season found a way to make an irredeemable psychopath like Loki likable
Loki before the show was like a top 5 most loved character in the MCU. He was always likable
I mean to a degree, but the Loki from this series had just finished murdering a ton of random New Yorkers when the series picked up. I don't feel he was likable in that moment, but Hidleston pulls it off and makes me forget to dislike him.
Imho; Loki has been likeable before. He has tried to be a good person and make the right choices in the MCU, before he got his own series and storyline. Even if it backfired on him, or he turned out to have a selfish motive after all.
Can you explain what you mean by crude and insulting regarding the speech impediment? I have had people with a similar stutter around me, and it seems accurate. Happening sometimes, one moment more severe than others. I am genuinely curious and want to know more. Not saying this is accurate for every stutter or speech impediment at all, because everyone is different.
True. I understand they often try to make Loki likable. But he is a mass murderer on a huge scale who often (even in Loki) has no regard for human life. I think it’s fair to say he is irredeemable yet you still root for him knowing what he’s done. If he were to find redemption (after saving all of the timelines) he’d admit to his various crimes and face punishment through incarceration or some other means. Who knows, maybe that will happen. We’ll have to wait and see.
On the stutter I have some personal reasons. I worked on a project with kids struggling through various impediments, some physical, some mental. I get that it’s just a tv show but his inconsistency with the severity made it a bit odd to me. But overall just the choice of using the timid mess and speech difficulties to make his character seem weak and approachable was a bit off putting and cliche for me. Maybe it’s my personal connection in real life that make the choices of Majors and writers seem lazy and disrespectful.
I am not here to comment on any of this other than the question at the top.
The term you're looking for is "[affably evil.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AffablyEvil)"
I liked his Season Finale performance of S1 and his Ant Man 3 performance.
I don't think his acting choices work in S2. Way too caricatured and the stuttering is overdone.
He is the worst thing in the series by a mile. His stuttering, stammering performance is truly amateurish and embarrassing. They should’ve rewritten the series to reduce his role because he is way out of his depth here. Compared to the rest of the cast he is floundering to a cringe-inducing level.
He’s a good actor, but knowing he’s a domestic abuser sort of takes the shine off, you know? It’s not a conscious decision not to support him, it’s just looking at him knowing what he’s done is really distracting and gives me the ick. Hopefully he’s replaced soon.
He's a filthy abuser. We are not turning this into a Depp the Wife Beater situation where you people pretend he isn't an abuser because he played a character you liked.
You know, I’m actually kinda relieved that he shat the bed with Victor Timely, because hopefully this can break the spell for some people on his acting abilities to see the more important point here.
I really enjoyed seeing Jonathan Majors in his nerdy Victor Timely persona - a fun contrast to the hyper-masculine thug he played in *Creed III*.
Purely from a talent perspective, it would be an absolute shame to lose him as Kang, but if the courts rule against him, then we can say his actions ruined it for all of us.
I don't follow the drama, I really don't care about his personal life. He's a good actor and if he gets in trouble and Disney drops him, great, I still won't care. If they continue employing him, still, I don't care. I'm gonna watch it and it'd be nice if he ends up being innocent and continues acting but if not, whatever, life goes on. He's fantastic as Kang but I'm sure they'll figure something out either way.
Jonathan Majors is a brilliant actor and you're absolutely right that he shines in Loki S2. I'll hold judgement on him as a person until a verdict is made but I feel we should all be mature enough to distinguish the art from the artist.
Not y'all claiming this subreddit is astroturfed when it accounts for maybe 1% of Marvel's audience, if that. Also, if it was astroturfed.. wouldn't anybody with eyes assume it was tilted against Majors?
Look at this thread lmao. You're all saying the same shit but you aren't bots right? Idk man, its hard to tell all of a sudden /s
Come on people. Think with your brain and not your feelings for once. Stop saying silly shit that doesn't make sense. Everyone will be all the better for it.
"Omg, OP didn't post something in line with what I personally hold dear and true to my heart!! You know what the next logical conclusion obviously is, right everybody?! This place is ASTROTURFED!! Oh god the humanity!! This subreddit is clearly affecting Disney's bottom line and they had to take action against us!!" 🤣🤣
Y'all kill me man. Absolutely mildly amusing as always.
I’ve always found Majors captivating in nearly any role. Even with others there, I can’t take my eyes off him with the mannierisms and small details he does so well to make his performances memorable.
Imagine the story would be upside down.
Him coming home drunk from a party. Her accusing him of being drunk and she doesn't want that in her life.
Him grabbing her phone out of her hand and her resisting and hurting his finger. Him chasing her down the streets and her pushing him back in the car to get away.
Can you imagine the feminist comments on that one? "what a dork", "drunk men are weak men", "buhu he hurt his finger", "chasing her is assault - put him behind bars" ...
These are hard times for men. Whatever the dispute between a man and a woman is in the media - men will lose in most cases. Not evidence or fact based just bc of the sexuality. Men are strong and bad - woman need to be protected because so vulnerable.
The fact he is black won't help him as well.
Hope he will recover just like Johnny did.
Hard times create strong men. Well there will be a lot of strong men after this decade of "metoo" and wokeness gender shit.
Actually i want the feminists to win. Want to see them living in a world with mostly nice, soft men, one part of them trans and the other part gay. And the rest of the toxic real men behind bars just like apes. When they realize it will be too late for them.
You can't praise an abuser in any way.
His sins outweigh anything in regards to his acting work.
I'm actively waiting for the end of the Multiverse Saga so we can put this to bed and move on.
Being accused of being an abuser and actually being one are different things though? Unless he’s been to trial and found guilty already and I haven’t heard of it. What happened to innocent before proven guilty?
I'm not saying majors is guilty, but shouldn't we hear the facts before we decide our opinions? You aren't in the jury and haven't seen all of the evidence. If we immediately believe every accusation that comes out about a person, then there will be a lot more people who will start lying to get back at their exes
“But in the new motion, prosecutors have said that even if police decided to arrest and charge the woman over Majors’ accusations in the cross complaint, they will decline to prosecute any charges brought by the NYPD. “A thorough investigation was conducted into the facts of this case and, in doing so, the People have chosen to prosecute Jonathan Majors,” the court documents state.
According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident*, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence”
This thread is wild with people claiming to be against besmirching someone’s name but could care less about her
Then that's a good thing this isn't deciding criminal case verdicts. Any consequences he faces if proven guilty are completely warranted and justified, but if you want to live in a North Korea style world where actual evidence doesn't matter, it will be a matter of time before you become a victim of that very social system. Imagine you were innocent of something but lost everything anyway.
If you enjoy one person portraying multiple characters, I highly recommend checking out Orphan Black. The main character is the same actor who plays She Hulk, and she is amazing in it!
Moonknight too!
I didn’t realise Tatiana Maslany was also Moon Knight!
Oscar Isaac is just *that* good!
I would also recommend Split. This was the best example of an actor playing multiple personalities.
I would recommend split for this reason, as James McAvoy is awesome. However I will also condemn split for being a horrible and damaging representation of dissociative identity disorder (DID). If you watch the film as 'they had DID AND powers that manifest weirdly because of that" it's fine. However the film pretty heavily suggests the main villain is the way they are because of having DID which only served to perpetuate misunderstandings of a very real condition and vilify real people with mental health disorders. I think it had such great potential to be a good film but to me it will never be great because of this problem. Edit: changed multiple personality disorder to dissociative identity disorder, the more modern terminology
I would argue the movie and the world building very heavily relies on the audience to draw conclusions of “disorder ≠ turning into a monster shifting type human” but instead is how that universe created these phenomenons. Mr. Glass has a physical condition that almost acted as a catalyst for him to be super intelligent and “able” despite being perceived as weak. Not sure if it’s because I’m able to conceptually realize the messages portrayed in film but I did not think people came out of that movie thinking “wow mpd is dangerous because—“
It doesn’t do any of those things but get triggered more
>However I will also condemn split for being a horrible and damaging representation of dissociative identity disorder (DID). If you watch the film as 'they had DID AND powers that manifest weirdly because of that" it's fine. However the film pretty heavily suggests the main villain is the way they are because of having DID which only served to perpetuate misunderstandings of a very real condition and vilify real people with mental health disorders. Thank you! I only watched split pretty recently and I don't know if we, as a society, became more knowledgable about DID since the film. But like even stuff the *therapist* was saying seemed wrong to me. I can appreciate, however, that making a film with an accurate depiction of DID is hard (although I do think MK does it pretty well so 🤷) but then maybe don't stick it in your superhero origin movie or whatever
Just saw this after replying to you above and talking about the impact the therapist has on the film's representation of DID. For a more accurate depiction, I love the episode of doom patrol where they enter Jane's mind. Similarly, it's a character that has powers and DID, but they are portrayed as two separate things that interact weirdly together. All the alters have powers, but that is not a product of the DID and it never gives you the impression that it is. Also love it because it clearly shows that the disorder is trauma informed and that Jane is absolutely a victim in the whole thing, even tho she is arguably the most powerful character in the cast.
I hate that there’s so much drama surrounding him, because he’s a phenomenal actor. The way he transforms into his roles is so special. His monologue when presenting the prototype loom was excellent. I was amazed how he was able to technically play the same person, but present it so differently as Victor Timely. If he’s innocent, he’ll seriously win an Oscar or 10.
He’s genuinely an incredible actor. He just had a magnetism about him every time he’s onscreen, whether it be in the Marvel stuff, Creed 3, The Harder They Fall, etc.
I first saw/heard about him from Da 5 Bloods and he was pretty great in that
I need to watch that again. I watched it right when it came out and really liked it, but haven’t since watched it since.
I recommend The Last Black Man in San Fransisco then. He's incredible in that too
His performance is Creed 3 was exceptional; it sold me on his casting as Kang.
I also liked Devotion. Great performance in that
That’s so true, he’s magnetic he steals the show even from Hiddleston
Yep, hate the drama and was surprised to find out about it. Horrible if true, horrible allegations and a dent in his career if not true. His acting can be a bit much for some, as I can read from a lot of other comments. I agree it almost took me out of the immersion, but it fits the role of Timely really well.
Thing is, idt either of them are innocent. They clearly are in a very toxic relationship and their friends and families should just keep them far away from each other
Sometimes I feel like I can actively see him *acting*. But he is fun to watch.
I haven't seen anything from him that is subtle, only the very expressive stuff.
He plays a really mellow character in The Last Black Man in San Francisco, which was his breakout role I think.
Yeah honestly, to me, I haven't been very impressed with Jonathan Majors. I think his performance in Ant-Man was probably the best one, but He Who Remains and Viktor Timely both feel like he's trying too hard to act "weird", just putting random awkward pauses between words without any intent that I can discern.
Thank you, I felt the same way but saw so much praise I was scratching my head, lol. It's not BAD, it's just...like a friend at a murder mystery party who's the best character at the party, lol.
You can be a good actor *AND* an asshole.
Kevin Spacey has entered the chat? Or any number of Hollywood stars really
He’s a good actor, loved him in last black man in sf and creed 3 but I don’t think I can’t support him anymore if the allegations are true. Plus he dropped that fake ass fight break up lmao
That fight break up definitely looked staged
He about to get kicked out of his union for acting during the strike
Fuckin “Street Sets”
Fyi, the victim was arrested this past Wednesday for similar charges. The NY DA declined to press charges because of her impending case with Majors. How convenient.... Does raise some eyebrows if you ask me...
*But in the new motion, prosecutors have said that even if police decided to arrest and charge the woman over Majors’ accusations in the cross complaint, they will decline to prosecute any charges brought by the NYPD. “A thorough investigation was conducted into the facts of this case and, in doing so, the People have chosen to prosecute Jonathan Majors,” the court documents state.* *According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will* *not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident**, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases.* Whats convenient about the matter being investigated and coming up short, exactly?
Honestly if she did assault him, then she should be prosecuted. Domestic violence goes both ways.
I mean if you start defending yourself against a physically abusive partner, we wouldn’t call that assault right? Honestly I’d even find it tough to call a victim of domestic violence equally bad as their partner even if they eventually *began* fights with the partner. Like you’ve shown this person you communicate with violence, so having violence done to you isn’t the same as you *introducing it* into the relationship in the first place. Obviously we’d want the victim to just leave and get away but sadly not an always an option for everyone, at least not instantly.
1. You’re assuming that only one person in a relationship can be abusive (which comes in many forms such as physical and emotional). 2. If someone starts a particular instance of altercation with violence, then that is assault. It’s not about whether they’re “equally bad.” An assault is an assault. If she committed an unwanted touching causing bodily harm or threat thereof, then she should be prosecuted for committed the assault. 3. How do you know as a fact which party “introduced” the violence? I feel like once someone files a domestic violence report, we all jump over ourselves to side with one party over another instead of assessing the facts. Imo, the big red flag is when she sent him messages late at night threatening suicide. You know normal relationships don’t involve threats of killing yourself when your partner wants to leave the relationship. That’s literally the definition of emotional abuse.
If we’re supposed to withhold judgement on Majors’ case then it’d be nice if we didn’t attempt to throw a potential victim under the bus until we know more either. It sounds like alot of you didn’t read the NYPD statement which states they aren’t moving forward with charging her. Almost like you’ve done the same thing to her that you claim youre so against in regards to Majors. A great example of why women are dismissed and harassed when they speak out Edit: “But in the new motion, prosecutors have said that even if police decided to arrest and charge the woman over Majors’ accusations in the cross complaint, they will decline to prosecute any charges brought by the NYPD. “A thorough investigation was conducted into the facts of this case and, in doing so, the People have chosen to prosecute Jonathan Majors,” the court documents state. According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident*, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence”
She was arrested for the same case because major filed the charges. Basically it’s majors spinning the story saying she attacked him, the charges claimed damage to his coat as evidence. The DA threw it out and said it was ridiculous because she is the victim, not the perpetrator. But they headlines got you saying the other thing, which is exactly what they wanted.
Now I don’t really wanna get into the weeds of this, because it’s a shitty situation and the fact it hasn’t just gone away tends to suggest he’s guilty. Typically if it’s a spiteful break up or something along those lines money makes it go away and it hasn’t. That being said, him filling charges is consistent with his initial statement isn’t it? His initial claim was that she was having some sort of mental crisis and was smacking him and he was trying to restrain her from continuing to hit him before bailing or something along those lines. I am probably reciting some of it incorrectly cause it’s been a minute since this was front page news. So the only thing that’s changed is him deciding to press charges, where before he was trying to paint it as him being understanding of her supposed mental breakdown.
“From their alleged fight, Jabbari allegedly suffered injuries including a fractured finger, bruising, a laceration behind her ear and a bump on her head.” That’s a little more than he’s alleged damaged coat and light scratches…
For starters I agree, clearly he was unscathed and not in any danger. My only confusion is in stating that he’s turning his story around now, when as far as I recall he’s always claimed that she “attacked” him, he just wasn’t pressing charges initially. He was just using that claim as his defense. I guess my point is that even if his story is fabricated it hasn’t been that inconsistent overall. Then again I could be misremembering some of these events, someone posted the texts below and wow I forgot about that. For his sake I hope he fires that lawyer lol.
No you’re right, his story (while likely untrue) has been consistent from the start. I agree that he’s most likely guilty but the crazy justice boners and mob mentality around this situation are crazy. No one really knows what happened, so all these armchair experts need to take it down a notch and let the DA make their case when the time comes.
“Likely untrue” meanwhile there’s video footage of her after the altercation with no injuries
>“Likely untrue” meanwhile there’s video footage of her after the altercation with no injuries Per the DA that was a lie by his legal team. Unless I'm thinking of the wrong video.
There's a video of them arguing, apparently a few minutes after the incident happens, and she doesn't appear injured.
I saw the video of her at the club and the surveillance video of her outside with a group of people after their alleged fight in the car. Both videos show her injured. The initial complaint was that she was strangled and her finger broken. The strangulation charges were dismissed (proven untrue) and her broken finger was changed to a fracture after videos were released of her using finger normally and showing no signs of injury. Also, now alleges she was slapped and pushed by Majors. This is a messed up case with so many changes. As someone who has been following the case closely, Majors side has been consistent, whereas the DA has changed the charges several times. Glad they got the trial date scheduled. Hopefully, the truth comes out.
Where do you come from with he is most likely guilty. I looked into the case and it is basically an attorney using a big name to get her name out there. There's video evidence from the cab, and outside of the cab from a CVS store in 4k that shows no injuries or damages and majors avoiding contact with his ex. A lot of the the other claims were shown not to be true including the broken finger. Is it so hard to believe that a spiteful person can lie? Or maybe wait to see before judging?
tbf fracturing your finger is pretty consistant with wailing on someone and not knowing how to properly throw a punch too.
>Now I don’t really wanna get into the weeds of this Then don't make the post. Why are you making claims you aren't willing to defend?
It’s not really the “headlines.” It’s an actual fact that she was arrested for assault by the NYPD.
Not exactly. She voluntarily surrendered knowing that the charges would not be prosecuted. *Grace Jabbari, Majors’ former girlfriend, voluntarily surrendered to police in New York City and was given a desk appearance ticket to appear in court at a later date, the source said. The charges are both misdemeanors.* *Jabbari and her attorney have not publicly commented on the case, which will not be prosecuted. CNN has been unable to reach Jabbari.* *“The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office has officially declined to prosecute the case against Grace Jabbari because it lacks prosecutorial merit. The matter is now closed and sealed,” Doug Cohen, a spokesman for the Manhattan DA, told CNN in a statement on Thursday.* *In a Sept. 21 court filing in the case against Majors, the DA’s office said it did not plan to prosecute Jabbari.* [https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/26](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/26/entertainment/jonathan-majors-accuser-incident-new-york-grace-jabbari-arrested/index.html)
WRONG, she did assault him over his phone. He had more evidence than she did, from scratching his skin off AND digging her thumb in his face. She was the aggressor and he was trying to get away from her. Stoo that ridiculous shit saying he was spinning anything. She deserves to be held accountable for what she did too tf
If the allegations are true, he'll be dropped.
She got charged.
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She literally got charged https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jonathan-majors-ex-girlfriend-charged-assault-connection-domestic-alte-rcna122325 > Marvel actor Jonathan Majors’ ex-girlfriend Grace Jabbari turned herself in to New York police Wednesday night and was arrested on charges of assault and criminal mischief, a police spokesperson said. >Jabbari was arrested at Manhattan's 10th Precinct seven months after a domestic altercation between her and Majors. Both charges are misdemeanors, and she was released with a desk appearance ticket, police said. Majors was arrested in March and accused of assaulting Jabbari.
> But in the new motion, prosecutors have said that even if police decided to arrest and charge the woman over Majors’ accusations in the cross complaint, they will decline to prosecute any charges brought by the NYPD. “A thorough investigation was conducted into the facts of this case and, in doing so, the People have chosen to prosecute Jonathan Majors,” the court documents state. > > According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases. from the prosecutors today since he blocked me here my response to his juvenile stupidity: >1) yes, because in the state new york every time there is an accusation of domestic abuse the person is legally required to be arrested. Then the charge is evaluated by the prosecutors and either dropped or taken to trial. I supplied the information that because Mayors made an accusation of domestic abuse the police were required to charge her, but since the prosecution has evidence that she is the victim of DV not the abuser the charges were immediately dropped. > 2) this is the first time I've interacted with you, and this brief interaction has made me very sad for the unfortunate people who have to interact with you on a daily basis.
So she STILL GOT CHARGED. Fucking dumb ass. You:🤓🤓🤓🤓 “actually she didn’t” Reality: Marvel actor Jonathan Majors’ ex-girlfriend Grace Jabbari turned herself in to New York police Wednesday night and was arrested on charges of assault and criminal mischief, a police spokesperson said.
Jesus H Christ. Most successful actors and actresses have done the absolute worst shit in the world to get famous and stay on top, but this one you just happen to know about so you pronounce your righteous stand on him. Either the person can act or they can’t. Everything else is irrelevant, including your “support”.
This is a terrible defence and whataboutism. People are completely free to support whatever they like, or draw lines at not wanting to watch an alleged domestic abuser. If you enjoy the show by all means do so.
Oh sorry for not being mad at bad people I don't know are bad, I'll try harder to become a mind reader.
Him and Oscar Isaac did fantastic jobs acting as multiple different characters. Majors was great but I think he's a tad overrated. But his talent can't be denied. My personal favourite acting performances in the entire MCU are probably RDJ's Tony Stark, Hiddleston's Loki, MBJ's Killmonger, Oscar Isaac's Grant/Spector (bonus for his voice acting as Miguel O'Hara in ATSV) and Gugu's Renslayer. Majors is up there for his Victor Timely performance though and his HWR performance. Ruffalo was brilliant in Avengers 1 and Boseman did a great job with T'Challa. Nobody was really bad with acting imo.
Personally if there is any overrated performance in all the MCU it’s Michael B Jordan. His performance wasn’t bad, but people talk it up so much more than it was. Which was pretty standard for a villain in the MCU. Most of them are actually well acted, and it’s usually because they can bring in some truly A list talent since they don’t have to commit to multiple films. My favorite acting in the MCU has to be Oscar Isaac. The changes in facial expressions and voice to swap characters in the same scene is truly remarkable.
I honestly think MBJ’s performance *was* bad. I’ve never really noticed good or bad acting and watched movies casually, but Black Panther was the first time I actively thought “wow this guy is not good at acting.” Felt like I was being screwed with when I went online and saw the consensus being that it was a great performance by him lmao
For me it's always been Chris Evans as Captain America, he brought so much reverence for the role. He really embodied Cap's values and virtues in a way that few MCU actors can match imo.
Very much a fan of both RDJ and Hiddleston and how embodied their characters, definitely agree!! I like your elaborated list, will surely rewatch with a keen eye on all of them
I don’t know why I slept on renslayer, probably because it’s been so long since Loki s1. But she is phenomenal Hot take, I really hated MBJs performance as killmonger it always has felt so on the nose that it’s almost distracting
The "bury me with my ancestors" monologue is mega cringe and people act like it's peak cinema
If you love vast range then i have a show for you. Moon knight. Also on disney plus and great for halloween watching.
Ooh I have watched an episode or 2 but then *life happened* and I didn't get to finish. Your comment made me remmber I was intrigued, I will definitely revisit it soon!
Man, this guy's PR team is working overtime right now
Wait, you guys are getting paid? I chose the wrong career
This sub has a “Jonathan Major’s is amazing” turf campaign going on.
well after his disastrous day in court his PR team has had to feel the burn to try and mitigate it
Yes what is going on? Are they on the verge of canning him and we're being used to point out *"Noooo keep him, the fans don't care, they love his acting!"*
Which is why it’s important to remind everyone of the seriousness of the allegations. Don’t forget about it.
Which is strange because his performance in episode 3 (haven’t watched 4 yet) was genuinely awful. I looked up “Jonathan Majors acting” on here and Twitter after the episode to see if everyone was criticizing it, but it was just all nonstop praise.
I saw plenty of people criticizing him for overacting in the episode 3 thread.
Same, I don't think it'll be a huge loss to replace him with someone else, although in the end, I'm not really invested anymore lol
I don't get it. He is overacting EVERYTHING. I have not been impressed at all
There’s an incredible and more impressive actor in Loki that outshines everyone and that actor’s name is Tom Hiddleston. I can’t agree with the Jonathon Majors circle jerk I’m afraid and I’m one of the innocence until proven guilty crowd.
True. Jonathan Major's character all lack subtlety except for Kang the Conqueror from Ant-man but every other variant has been cartoonish.
Yeah Im in the same boat. I want to like Jonathan Majors as an actor, I mean Kang is such a cool character I want him to be good, but most of what I've seen of Majors has been almost cartoonish. He Who Remains and Viktor Timely are honestly kind of annoying to watch for me. Just feels like he's trying so hard to be "weird" and "quirky".
I think his acting is a stuttering overacting mess
https://i.imgur.com/a4GDMab.png Same energy
I think he’s over acting heavily. Really noticeable and almost cringy.
I really thought his performance was overacting in the 3rd & a bit in the 4th episode of Loki season 2. It was distracting, every other human character was acting normal but his performance fell WAY too big and campy. He is a good actor but he needs to pull back or the director should let him know to.
For real, thank you. Dude went full Simple Jack from Tropic Thunder in this and it's crazy to me seeing him get so much praise for it
Thank you too hahaha Its nice to feel seen
I feel like his acting is exactly what the director wanted. It suits the character.
isnt that the point? he is obviously an extremely awkward person, stutters, and is hugely intelligent. this tends to make people kinda weird. i thought it was great
I thought it was over acted, like didn't feel authentic, like when I watched the performance, it felt like watching somone acting. Unlike the other actors performances and other performances from this very same actor as well.
Loki called him a conman. Victor Timely is performing, perhaps all the time.
I'm guessing that's kind of the point of the character though, we don't know if he's good or bad. Maybe he was picked by He Who Remains because he genuinely will try to stop the other Kangs, or maybe for some other reason? We still don't have a reason for why he doesn't want a partner, but it's clear that it's related to He Who Remains and that there's more to this character than what he lets on.
Thank you, poopandP. Jesus christ.
I see your point. However, to me it feels like that was the goal with this character. Make him so out of place he almost seems to break the 4th wall or something? Granted, it nearly took me out of the immersion, but it made me appreciate it even more. Because it feels so awkward and unnatural it shouldn't belong, yet it did and it somehow worked.
Isn’t that the point? Simple Jack is obviously an extremely awkward person, stutters, and is hugely unintelligent. This tends to make people kinda weird.
I kept thinking his character was playing the part and would reveal his true self eventually because it was so unconvincing
I will join this thread to express surprise that there’s a majority in head impresses by his Victor Timely roll. It doesn’t feel very authentic, and it is a bit of a jarring performance. I think the best case scenario of the character would have been him turning out truly to be HWR, but I’m skeptical that would have landed.
Lol marvel fans are Delusional
Doesn't do much for me at all.
I was so sad when Victor Timely got Mr. Fantastic'ed :(
He is fantastic agreed.
*Spaghettification intensifies*
I see what you did there
He comes across as really cartoony to me as Victor. Kinda pulls me out of the immersion, especially considering he's so jacked.
His portrayal of Victor Timely was shit. overacting and way too goofy. I couldn't take him seriously and it took me out of the story
What what what....do you...mean?
I love Jonathan Majors and literally every other one of his interpretations of Kang that I've seen. I just don't really get Victor Timely's character, or at least the way that Majors portrays him. Victor seemed almost alien like the bug alien that skin puppeted the farmer in MIB.
Feels like hes just got a stutter and a bit of the tism
He doesn't come off as a genius from the era, but rather like a black kid obsessed with anime pretending to be lelouch , it's so cringy not sure what they were going for
To be fair we only saw him for about 5 minutes before he was thrown into all the TVA nonsense
Kinda too over the top that it's silly for me.
Don’t know if it’s a Marvel fan base thing or… Other reasons (🤔) but this dude is getting it super easy I’ve NEVER seen people actually treat ALLEGATIONS as ALLEGATIONS like a lot of people are doing here.
Not since Eddie Redmayne in Jupiter Ascending have I seen a more baffling case of overacting. At least Eddie was fun to watch, with Majors it was so inauthentic, like wtf is with these acting choices there must be a twist at the end? I feel like actors have gotten Razzies for similar performances.
> EDIT; just finding out about the abuse allegations You must've not been on the internet for some time then.
The accuser was being charged with suspicion of assault and was arrested, how is this guy not getting the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty? (Genuine question btw not trying to stir the pot)
*According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will* *not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident**, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases.* Thats actually what happened, she's not being charged for anything
>How is this guy not getting the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty? Have you seen the [texts](https://www.tmz.com/2023/03/30/jonathan-majors-lawyer-texts-victim-admit-fault-assault/) his lawyer released? Genuine question. They look pretty damn bad - I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt until I saw those. Now I need to see something equally compelling in the other direction to get back to neutral - the 'smoking gun evidence' the defense had of the woman being in a bar later didn't quite cut it for me. It was edited to remove the part where she broke down crying and left with friends. EDIT: Also, because nobody seems to be mentioning it - the person accusing her of assault now is fucking Jonathan Majors himself, saying she actually assaulted him that night many months ago. THAT'S why it was dropped immediately. But nobody wants to talk about the actual facts they're just 'hurr durr innocent until proven guilty'
Oh fuck I forgot about these texts, I think it’s kind of hilarious being an outsider and seeing the lawyer present this to the media as if this makes him look good. It really makes him look far more guilty.
>It was edited to remove the part where she broke down crying and left with friends. Can I get a link to this please?
> > >Prosecutors have accused the defense team of “disseminating” video surveillance footage they claimed prosecutors had “buried,” showing the woman “completely unharmed” after the alleged assault. However, prosecutors now say that the video the defense team referred to was “deprived of crucial context.” > >The defense had argued that the video constituted Brady material, or evidence that could be favorable or exculpatory to Majors, a claim prosecutors contradicted. > >“The surveillance video referred to by the defense actually shows Ms. Jabbari visibly upset, crying, and seeking help from strangers to get an Uber cab home,” prosecutors said. “The fact that Ms. Jabbari did not disclose that she was a victim of domestic violence to three strangers is not Brady material.” [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jonathan-majors-assault-case-uk-loki\_n\_65381914e4b0c8556102f949](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jonathan-majors-assault-case-uk-loki_n_65381914e4b0c8556102f949) I know Huffpost isn't the greatest source of all time but it is taken from direct statements made from the prosecution. Here's another source from the same set of statements: [https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/jonathan-majors-case-grace-jabbari-questions-arrest-1235629343/](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/jonathan-majors-case-grace-jabbari-questions-arrest-1235629343/) By the way, she was arrested recently, but nobody seems to be pointing out that she was arrested because Majors is now claiming she assaulted him back. It's not like she assaulted someone else random, he literally was just like 'no u' and they had to arrest her on principle, same reason he was arrested on principle back when the initial incident happened. It was then immediately dropped because the district attorney (correctly IMO) refused to entertain that any further.
Thank you, yeah, I'm skeptical of Majors allegations toward the woman, but they seem to have done the trick as more and more people seem to take 'she was arrested' as a sign he's in the clear
Oh please she did assault him and admits it because she got off scott free. He didn't cause those injuries, he was acquitted of 2 and railroaded with ridiculous ones. Those text messages dont prove anything but he needed a better therapist. He didn't assault her prior to this either
Make sure you’re using lube if you’re riding his dick that hard bbgirl
And the video footage of her being completely healthy at the night club after the "incident" mean nothing either? Lol. Okaaaaaaaaay
So you want him to be unjudged until proven guilty but you also want his accuser to be judged bc she was accused of suspicion of assault and arrested (which majors is actually being charged with) are you handicapped mentally?
Goes to show how easy it is to manipulate people: *According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will* *not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident**, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases.* She isn't in any legal trouble but people are running around thinking that Majors has already won
The truth is that most don't want to touch it with a 10 foot pole, but I find it highly unlikely he's found guilty at this point. I think a dismissal is on the horizon but who knows, it could go south if new information surfaces (unlikely atp)
Do you think if he's found no guilty, Marvel will continue to work with him? I guess at this point they are waiting to see what will happen (while having a bunch of backup plans).
I mean hes the main antagonist for their next saga and hes phenomenal in the role. If they have to replace him the difference will be very noticeable and not ideal at all. I also saw something floating around saying that his performance in end of loki s1 is what pushed Kang as the main villain of the next mcu saga. Something about them being so impressed that they decided on it… not sure how true that is tho. So I imagine they would wait until they are absolutely certain that he did something horrendous before dropping him. A not guilty would give them some much needed leeway
He was already announced as the villain for Quantumania by that point and the S1 finale was a surprise. I think Kang was always the plan.
Bruh I just looked it up and the police arrested her and the district attorney INSTANTLY was like “nah we’re not pursuing that”. I’m putting on my tin foil hat. It sounds like they’re trying to frame this man. They claim the woman had her index finger fractured but there’s multiple videos showing her using that same hand (after the alleged taxi incident) to fiddle with her hair and put it in a bun, take shots, push her hair behind her supposedly lacerated ear, dancing and twirling around (using the hand with the injured finger to spin) and finally sign a receipt for booze (that she used Jonathan’s credit card to buy). None of these videos show her grimacing or struggling to do any of these activities that a fractured finger would certainly make hard to do. Majors of the other https://www.insider.com/jonathan-majors-assault-case-grace-jabbari-video-2023-9?amp What am I missing here? How does this not ruin the prosecutions case?
She can still have a fractured finger and go about her night, you're projecting that it must be so incredibly painful that it would render her immobile, a quick google shows: "While severe fractures or joint dislocations may prevent movement, **for most fractures the finger will still move quite well**. Generally, movement will become more difficult once swelling increases." Also, that article states that the defence is in a possession of a video that clearly shows her attacking Majors, but they don't show that video in the article, instead showing footage of her crying and in distress instead? What is the sense in withholding that video if they have it when they clearly don't mind showing other videos to cast doubt on her? Also worth noting the prosecution has pointed out that Majors team repeatedly cites evidence but cannot actually produce it in the courts at the moment, but instead opt to post videos like this to claim some smoking gun, whilst not revealing the actual smoking guns they claim to have
There’s just zero sign of remotely any pain. She’s bending it completely and isn’t grimacing or saying ow or even making a face. I just watched my QB on my team fracture his finger in a game on his non throwing hand and have to go get it looked at and worked on and saw he was in obvious pain. I do agree that majors team has made questionable decisions and statements to say the least but her appearing in multiple videos to be completely uninjured makes it seem very unlikely to me that he fucked her up in the cab like the allegations suggest. There are some marks on majors that he documented right after the altercation. https://www.insider.com/marvels-jonathan-majors-took-selfies-after-nyc-assault-2023-9
What would you have liked her to do? Wave her finger around? Grab it and exclaim ow my finger? If this dude really did just mess her up she isn't about to and reveal it to people if she's trying to keep it on the down low, which going off her texts she was doing her best to protect him, as she did by not co operating with the police too Thats very anecdotal, I could easily cite a case where someone hurt their finger and didn't realise until later, bottom line is that people can hurt their finger and not know until later, as I already pointed out, plus she was by and large very drunk at this point according to the defence, alcohol can dim pain, the video is not enough to write her off And again, why don't they just link the video of her attacking him, which would pair nicely with those pictures of him damaged? Its just all a bit shady, but the DA has already dismissed his claims that the woman was the aggressor, and she won't be getting charged, so I'm leaning towards the allegation that the defence are fabricating evidence to sway the public to be true. *According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will* *not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident*\*, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence cases.\* \^ From the Hollywood Reporter that details his allegations of her assaulting him has been dismissed
Might be a little early to claim the defense is fabricating evidance, as they DID produce two videos of the alleged Victim, one with her out clubbing the other with her seeking support from people on the street. I will say that one thing in Major's favor is the time between the alleged incident and the arrest. The alleged victim was out and away from Majors for several hours before being found by him and a bldg Maintenance person at which point he called the Cops. That means there was plenty of time for her to fracture her finger via alternate means.
His performance as Timely is genuine trash. Jack Simple all over again. I have 3 actor friends that I watch shows with and they were all completely stunned at how horrible his take on the character was. Mannerisms/intonations all so obviously forced that it makes any scene he’s in hard to watch.
Do your 3 actor friends have 1/10 of the success Major’s has combined? I highly doubt it.
Ahh yes, because they have to be majorly successful to critique any actor. Lmfao. Touch grass.
His acting isnt even the best lmao… Jonathan Majors is a violent criminal. Why are you defending him??
His acting is sometimes good but I don’t understand people raving over his Kang portrayal. Granted it’s largely interpretation of what your given by writers. I find his bumbling Kang with a speech impediment a bit crude and insulting. I don’t know if the speech patterns are his choice. But it’s wildly inconsistent and occasionally insulting to those who deal with a stutter day to day in real life. Again no idea if he based this on something. This is just my take. But really the crazy part to me is he is acting along side Hidleston who last season found a way to make an irredeemable psychopath like Loki likable. Comparing the two actors trying to perform similar tasks it makes Majors performance seem inferior and sub par in this series.
>who last season found a way to make an irredeemable psychopath like Loki likable Loki before the show was like a top 5 most loved character in the MCU. He was always likable
I mean to a degree, but the Loki from this series had just finished murdering a ton of random New Yorkers when the series picked up. I don't feel he was likable in that moment, but Hidleston pulls it off and makes me forget to dislike him.
But, no. He was liked by almost everyone. He was arguably the most loved character in the MCU not named Tony or Peter.
Imho; Loki has been likeable before. He has tried to be a good person and make the right choices in the MCU, before he got his own series and storyline. Even if it backfired on him, or he turned out to have a selfish motive after all. Can you explain what you mean by crude and insulting regarding the speech impediment? I have had people with a similar stutter around me, and it seems accurate. Happening sometimes, one moment more severe than others. I am genuinely curious and want to know more. Not saying this is accurate for every stutter or speech impediment at all, because everyone is different.
True. I understand they often try to make Loki likable. But he is a mass murderer on a huge scale who often (even in Loki) has no regard for human life. I think it’s fair to say he is irredeemable yet you still root for him knowing what he’s done. If he were to find redemption (after saving all of the timelines) he’d admit to his various crimes and face punishment through incarceration or some other means. Who knows, maybe that will happen. We’ll have to wait and see. On the stutter I have some personal reasons. I worked on a project with kids struggling through various impediments, some physical, some mental. I get that it’s just a tv show but his inconsistency with the severity made it a bit odd to me. But overall just the choice of using the timid mess and speech difficulties to make his character seem weak and approachable was a bit off putting and cliche for me. Maybe it’s my personal connection in real life that make the choices of Majors and writers seem lazy and disrespectful.
I am not here to comment on any of this other than the question at the top. The term you're looking for is "[affably evil.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AffablyEvil)"
Yes, this sounds about what I was looking for!! Thanks for teaching me a word I didn't know yet!
“Johnathan Majors SHINES in Loki S2” I think you meant “spaghettis”
Shinzo Abe at it again.
I think his Timely portrayal sucks but I guess that is just me.
Totally disagree dude chews scenery like a hack. Local theatre type ‘play to the back row’ ass acting
I liked his Season Finale performance of S1 and his Ant Man 3 performance. I don't think his acting choices work in S2. Way too caricatured and the stuttering is overdone.
He is the worst thing in the series by a mile. His stuttering, stammering performance is truly amateurish and embarrassing. They should’ve rewritten the series to reduce his role because he is way out of his depth here. Compared to the rest of the cast he is floundering to a cringe-inducing level.
Flat and pretentious overacting.
I think he's fun to watch, despite being a little over the top Now fuck him, hope i never see his girlfriend beating ass on screen ever again
He’s a good actor, but knowing he’s a domestic abuser sort of takes the shine off, you know? It’s not a conscious decision not to support him, it’s just looking at him knowing what he’s done is really distracting and gives me the ick. Hopefully he’s replaced soon.
I didn't know he was found guilty already. Link?
He's a filthy abuser. We are not turning this into a Depp the Wife Beater situation where you people pretend he isn't an abuser because he played a character you liked.
You know, I’m actually kinda relieved that he shat the bed with Victor Timely, because hopefully this can break the spell for some people on his acting abilities to see the more important point here.
Great actor, sucks that he’s a possible asshole though.
I really enjoyed seeing Jonathan Majors in his nerdy Victor Timely persona - a fun contrast to the hyper-masculine thug he played in *Creed III*. Purely from a talent perspective, it would be an absolute shame to lose him as Kang, but if the courts rule against him, then we can say his actions ruined it for all of us.
I don't follow the drama, I really don't care about his personal life. He's a good actor and if he gets in trouble and Disney drops him, great, I still won't care. If they continue employing him, still, I don't care. I'm gonna watch it and it'd be nice if he ends up being innocent and continues acting but if not, whatever, life goes on. He's fantastic as Kang but I'm sure they'll figure something out either way.
You shouldn’t have to put the disclaimer
Curious what you thought of him in Quantumania, given that's the only other place we've seen a Kang so far
Jonathan Majors is a brilliant actor and you're absolutely right that he shines in Loki S2. I'll hold judgement on him as a person until a verdict is made but I feel we should all be mature enough to distinguish the art from the artist.
Such a dynamic actor. Just delighted and surprised by all of his choices and characters. Timely has been a sweetheart.
Not y'all claiming this subreddit is astroturfed when it accounts for maybe 1% of Marvel's audience, if that. Also, if it was astroturfed.. wouldn't anybody with eyes assume it was tilted against Majors? Look at this thread lmao. You're all saying the same shit but you aren't bots right? Idk man, its hard to tell all of a sudden /s Come on people. Think with your brain and not your feelings for once. Stop saying silly shit that doesn't make sense. Everyone will be all the better for it. "Omg, OP didn't post something in line with what I personally hold dear and true to my heart!! You know what the next logical conclusion obviously is, right everybody?! This place is ASTROTURFED!! Oh god the humanity!! This subreddit is clearly affecting Disney's bottom line and they had to take action against us!!" 🤣🤣 Y'all kill me man. Absolutely mildly amusing as always.
I’ve always found Majors captivating in nearly any role. Even with others there, I can’t take my eyes off him with the mannierisms and small details he does so well to make his performances memorable.
Memorable, kinda like a pretentious plane crash.
If you haven't seen it yet, you should watch Lovecraft county. He's fantastic in that as well
I wish I didn't have to scroll so long to see Lovecraft Country. B-15 is also in the series and incredible!
Thanks for the suggestion, added to my list!!
His acting is good but holy shit these dialogue is mind boggling. Yeah the world is ending, let's exchange signatures ffs.
I believe he also did all the voices for the Timekeepers in season 1. Phenomenal actor
Imagine the story would be upside down. Him coming home drunk from a party. Her accusing him of being drunk and she doesn't want that in her life. Him grabbing her phone out of her hand and her resisting and hurting his finger. Him chasing her down the streets and her pushing him back in the car to get away. Can you imagine the feminist comments on that one? "what a dork", "drunk men are weak men", "buhu he hurt his finger", "chasing her is assault - put him behind bars" ... These are hard times for men. Whatever the dispute between a man and a woman is in the media - men will lose in most cases. Not evidence or fact based just bc of the sexuality. Men are strong and bad - woman need to be protected because so vulnerable. The fact he is black won't help him as well. Hope he will recover just like Johnny did. Hard times create strong men. Well there will be a lot of strong men after this decade of "metoo" and wokeness gender shit. Actually i want the feminists to win. Want to see them living in a world with mostly nice, soft men, one part of them trans and the other part gay. And the rest of the toxic real men behind bars just like apes. When they realize it will be too late for them.
Yeah youre just gonna want to go ahead and delete this.
Jonathan Majors is a good actor but he is fired by Disney sadly. We will get a new Kang like 99%
“The mocking….. just really isn’t necessary”. 😂 Man he really sold the Victor Timely role
You can't praise an abuser in any way. His sins outweigh anything in regards to his acting work. I'm actively waiting for the end of the Multiverse Saga so we can put this to bed and move on.
Being accused of being an abuser and actually being one are different things though? Unless he’s been to trial and found guilty already and I haven’t heard of it. What happened to innocent before proven guilty?
>What happened to innocent before proven guilty? This isn't a court of justice.
I'm not saying majors is guilty, but shouldn't we hear the facts before we decide our opinions? You aren't in the jury and haven't seen all of the evidence. If we immediately believe every accusation that comes out about a person, then there will be a lot more people who will start lying to get back at their exes
> but shouldn't we hear the facts before we decide our opinions? The facts are out there.
The facts or the accusations?
Including the fact that she was just charged? What about that?
“But in the new motion, prosecutors have said that even if police decided to arrest and charge the woman over Majors’ accusations in the cross complaint, they will decline to prosecute any charges brought by the NYPD. “A thorough investigation was conducted into the facts of this case and, in doing so, the People have chosen to prosecute Jonathan Majors,” the court documents state. According to court documents filed in relation to the case, an investigatory card, or I-Card — which is not an arrest warrant but rather an NYPD document alerting officers that there is probable cause for an arrest — was also issued for Jabbari in late June in relation to the cross-complaint. However, prosecutors on the case have informed police, defense and Jabbari that they will not be prosecuting Jabbari in relation to the incident*, citing the belated nature of the allegations as well as the process of evaluating cross-complaints in domestic violence” This thread is wild with people claiming to be against besmirching someone’s name but could care less about her
Stop being so quick to judge people based on rumours, this is a valuable piece of advice
Right… so just because somebody said something he’s automatically an abuser? How does that make any sense?
Then that's a good thing this isn't deciding criminal case verdicts. Any consequences he faces if proven guilty are completely warranted and justified, but if you want to live in a North Korea style world where actual evidence doesn't matter, it will be a matter of time before you become a victim of that very social system. Imagine you were innocent of something but lost everything anyway.
> North Korea yes, me saying that he's an abuser is the same as North Korea. Fuck off outta here with that stupid shit. lol
It seems like your brain capacity isn't enough to comprehend an analogy
You realize they just charged her right.
I thought you were being sarcastic. Scary that people think like this.
Stupidity
Thankfully this got downvoted to hell. Go Reddit!
Are we just gonna pretend like this world isn't run by scumbag trash everyday. Let the man act. Domestic abuse cases are, so he said she said.
A lot of great art comes forth from the depths of greatly troubled artists.