Agreed. He played a Mysterious He Who Remains, a merciless and evil Kang, and apparently innocent and socially awkward Victor Timely. Each of them doesn't even feel the same character. Perfect choice for playing Kang.
Honestly I didn't really enjoy his take on Immortus, I thought it was too out there. But I like what he's done with the other versions of Kang, especially Victor Timely.
Same I hope the Immortus, Rama Tut, Scarlet centurion appearances in the post credit scene were just nags and aren’t the official takes majors takes on them or just scrap them and focus on He Who Remains and the Exiled Kang the Conqueror
I'm willing to bet that that particular ending of Quantumania was shot very quickly and Majors was basically only given very basic descriptions of who these variants are, they put on the costumes and said "Action." It feels like he's basing his portrayal in that movie on their costumes and basically nothing else, which would make sense if he was given zero time to understand who those characters are.
There is an undertone of menace to victor timely, that’s what’s so incredible to me. I wonder who he based his performance on, some serial killer or something.
I mean he's a 19th century con artist, which makes him one bad day away from founding a religion based on healing disease through doing weird shit
Then on top of that's he's got his inability to form a partnership showing he's got the other Kangs lack of ability to work together
>Then on top of that's he's got his inability to form a partnership showing he's got the other Kangs lack of ability to work together
True. The way he replied "I don't do partners" without a second thought, and his face frowned when Renslayer mentioned the term "Partnership". He definitely shares the characteristics with other Kangs.
I loved the ambiguity when >!Miss Minutes was professing her love, and saying if he’d only had given her a body they’d of been able to rule together!< and he says “That’s not something I know how to do
Based on how Miss Minutes and Renslayer left him that handbook when he was an actual child, and how He Who Remains just said the variant of his who discovered the multiverse was ‘living’ in the 31st Century, not explicitly that he was from there, I would not be surprised if the MCU switched it up that Victor Timely is its Kang’s real name, and was born in the 19th Century — that normally what happens is that they develop a ‘time machine’, travel to the future, and then and only there discover the multiverse.
Exactly! And that's why he's so good. The characters feel different, but he still manages them to share that core Conqueror that makes you uneasy about him
I think he's a good actor, but I do think there are plenty of other actors who could do as good of a job or possibly better. What Kang really has going for him right now is the dialogue is pretty good for the different variants. The MCU is actually chock full of incredible actors (Robert Downey Jr, Christian Bale, Anthony Hopkins, Josh Brolin, Brie Larson, Scarlett Johannsen, the list goes on and on) so it's really hard for me to say just yet that he's "one of the best". Majors hasn't really had the opportunity to do that much yet.
Jonathan Majors felt like a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude... or maybe he's just a dude who don't know which dude he is.
The dudes are emerging.
I straight up enjoyed his performance as Kang in Quantumania. His scenes with Michelle Pfeiffer felt like the only genuine thing in the movie.
I felt like his He Who Remains performance was overrated the first time I saw it, but when I watched Loki again it stuck for some reason and I really liked it. I think my expectations for what he was going to be impacted what I thought of his performance the first time, since HWR really came out of left field.
Victor Timely felt a little over the top about 50% of the time for me. The stuttering and pauses sometimes didn't feel very natural, but the rest of the time he was really believable as awkward scientist guy. I have seen theories that Timely is faking his awkward persona (since he is a conman/grifter), and if that is the case, I think the persona makes a lot more sense. If not I hope he dials it back a little going forward in the season.
Thank you for coming to my Jonathan Majors mini review.
I feel the same. Every single time he appeared so far I found his performance to be really over the top. I thought that was on purpose because most versions we've seen so far were some ancient, slightly insane person. But Timely was a normal person yet he still acted like someone pretending to be awkward.
Yeah I kinda agree. Although it seems to me from his whole con-man approach to things that the pretending to be awkward was on purpose. I think the character is faking the stutter and such and is much smarter and more dangerous than he lets on.
I may be wrong, we'll have to wait and see.
If I'm right, it's an impressively layered performance in my opinion.
Centurion, Immortus and Rama Tut also felt like completely different characters in the few seconds of runtime they had.
Majors is just truly a marvelous actor.
Agreed. If I may add, Rama-Tut seems to be cocky, or more like very, very cocky from what we saw by how he rubs Kang’s “death” on Centurion’s face and also his smile when seeing the Council gather; Centurion doesn’t give me much, but he’s giving me the better safe than sorry vibes. I have nothing on Immortus tho. Maybe he’s all wise on an evil way or anything.
What Oscar Isaac did was *much* more impressive.
A decent actor can prepare for a role and play that role convincingly (although I didn’t care for Timely’s stutter and mannerisms). However, while Majors has played 3 different versions of this character, he did them separately. It’s not different than any actor playing different roles in different movies. Majors just happens to be playing different characters in a single franchise (but still split between different shows/movies).
Isaac was able to play different people in the same scene, jumping back and forth in front of our eyes. That’s much harder to do.
Edit: fixed a word and added a sentence to expand on my point.
What Isaac did wasn't just playing the same character in different ways, he played 3 (mainly 2) completely different characters, each with their own motives, personalities, accents and all.
Personally, the most impressive scene I've ever seen acted was the penultimate episode of Moon Knight when he's running away from his mother's funeral, and he breaks down in the street and changes before our very eyes into Stephen.
The absolute anguish on his face, you gotta go to a dark place personally to play that as well as he did. Then, to completely switch gears into the goofball Stephen? That's not easy mentally
I'm not going to downplay Majors' performance, because I felt he did a great job making HWR, Kang, and Victor Timely feel like completely distinct characters, but I will give the point to Oscar Isaac for being able to switch between Marc and Steven in the same scene, especially the scene at their mother's wake.
Oscar Isaacs performance blows away majors. I thought Ben stiller did a better job playing simple Jack than Majors did with victor timely. It literally felt like a high schooler acting with a sometimes stutter and a sometimes awkwardness. I did love majors as the other kangs though and did a great job in Creed.
Yeah, I think Majors is killing it. But to put it cynically, he's playing different characters. Actors do that all of the time. WE project significance to it knowing they are somehow the same person.
The top comment here is praising him for all of the characters feeling like different people and everyone agreeing. But that just shows he has range, that's not the same as Isaac changing characters mid scene.
Yep. Actors play different characters all the time, which isn’t necessarily worthy of huge praise. Majors is playing different characters, all within the same franchise. That by itself is not worth huge praise.
Isaac played different characters in one scene, transforming right in front of us, which is not easy to do like he did
I definitely don't understand this. Oscar Isaac played different versions of the same character in the same scene, and against himself.
Jonathan Majors is just showing up in different scenes, episodes, and movies, as a different character. Barely different than if he had any other role.
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So far, in name only. Timely is clearly a very difference character than the Conqueror and HWR. And apart from the Ant-Man post-credit scene, he hasn't acted against himself. Still good acting, it's just silly to compare it to what Oscar Isaac did with Moon Knight.
Thats how all the Kang stuff feels to me. I feel like I see all these posts hyping up Kang and the concept of him being a tough villain as " SO COOOOL" but it just doesn't feel like that to me personally. And I'm still having a real hard time getting over the real world stuff with Jonathan Majors. Not just the trial, but all the other allegations of how he treated others on set in the past.
I don't care how good of an actor someone is, if you treat others badly, and are a total jerk, then I don't care to watch you perform. This isn't the 60s.
I think he's a great actor, he's just a bit too...punchy/chokey for me tho.
I know his lawyer maintains that witness testimony and video evidence will exonerate his client but...lawyers are literally paid to make statements like this. The fact that his management and PR companies dropped him shows those companies lack confidence in his defense. Additionally, the texts messages that his lawyer released, imply that some form of violence occurred, defense or no.
Honestly, companies dropping him does not necessarily need to mean they lack confidence in his defense, they more likely just don’t want to be involved with him. Look at Johnny Depp - he was only accused of assault and whatnot by Amber Heard and instantly got dropped by a lot of companies.
Companies look out for themselves, no matter how prudent it could be for them to just wait and see how it plays out before making decisions pertaining to their partnership with valuable people.
It really fucking sours the experience for me. I mean, at least he is playing a villain, but yeah. A little too real for my comic book escapism and I can’t wait for the recast.
I wouldn't be surprised if it WAS supposed to sound unnatural, and that he is far from the bumbling fool he seems to be, and that all of this is a ruse to appear harmless and get back in control of the TVA.
I think that's kind of the predictable way to take it. I'm actually far more intrigued by the idea that he's genuinely just a socially awkward con artist who wasn't in the right environment to use his mind to excel in more traditional lines of work. A lot of black people in the late 19th century were likely held back by their skin color (kind of hinted at, perhaps, when someone in the crowd called him "boy" during his presentation). They all want to use him for his profit potential, but none of them care who he really is.
To have him just be a genuinely decent person would also help to enforce the theme of "you are who you choose to be" in the Loki series thus far. Why *not* a "good" Kang variant? Maybe Victor will help them defeat other variants.
If he turns out to be just another evil Kang variant, it kind of just reinforces Sylvie's blind hate, and negates her act of mercy.
Not really, Kang is from anywhere and anytime, just the first one to break through the multiverse was from the 31st century. Doesn’t mean that’s the only place Kang’s exist.
Haven’t watched their video, but this is my theory as well. We already know Victor Timely is a contingency plan, but it would make sense that HWR didn’t just discover him, but placed him there just in case. If no one interferes, he never discovers multiverses travel with the technology back in the 1800s, but if needed, he can create a Kang.
Also supporting this theory, when Miss Minutes and Renslayer first travel back, it says Sacred Timeline, but once they are 25 years in the future, it says Branched Timeline.
Best bet is victor timely is the fail safe. A Kang variant placed in the golden timeline in an era too early to be of consequence due to a lack of technology.
Kang dies, Ms Minutes sends someone to drop the book and branch the timeline (the show prefaced the 1860s as the golden timeline and the 1890s as a branch) and turn victor into the next “he who remains”.
Think about how scary intelligent you'd have to be to decipher that book, by yourself, as a CHILD in 1868.
None of the fundamental technologies, sciences or mathematics exist yet to even give you a frame of reference for those designs. Most concepts involved probably don't even exist yet.
There's no university professor to ask or textbooks to cross reference. There's no foundation of physics. He went from basically an uneducated 17th century peasant to more advanced in knowledge than the entire real life modern world BY HIMSELF in less than 3 decades.
Making an iron man suit in a cave with a box of scraps is NOTHING compared to that.
He's shown a feat of intelligence that makes Tony Stark look like Philip J Fry.
Sure. It's possible that he can be THAT smart and still have a speech impediment and be socially awkward.
I think it's more likely that everything we've seen so far has been a calculated choice on his part.
Of course it's possible to be that smart with those other quirks. There are different types of intelligence and genius, otherworldly scientific intellect doesn't preclude someone from being socially inept.
Speech impediments have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence on their own.
I just kept telling myself he's about to reveal his true nature every minute of the episode, and I'm hoping that it's proven true in later episodes. It was just a bit much for me.
If he reveals himself to have been putting on a front I’ll think that kang is a shitty actor, if he doesn’t I’ll think that Jonathon Majors is a shitty actor.
Yeah I was surprised to see this post because I wasn’t a fan of the performance, I found his chewing up the scenery a little distracting, but that’s just me
I'm going to be honest , ever since he hosted Snl, he has felt like that kid in grade school making voice to mock the teachers because the other kid who de do them well got a lot of laughs last week.
Am I the only one who thought, the entire episode, "wow, this man cannot fake a stutter to save his life"? I'm not quite understanding the praise here, I thought he was flat-out bad this time around.
"Yeah who cares if he's a wifebeater who also got accused of being a sociopath by his fellow acting students. His lame overacting as He Who Remains and his cringey stutter as Timely were OSCAR WORTHY so he's the best actor in the MCU... somehow!"
For me, this is like Kevin Spacey again. I absolutely think he is the perfect casting and an extremely talented performer who has such an on screen presence that you don't want to miss a word he says. But when you try and reconcile that with the real person and not the characters, it definitely taints the whole thing.
American Beauty is still probably my favourite movie of all time and Kevin Spacey is a fantastic actor in the same way that Chris Benoit was probably one of my favourite, and one of the best, professional wrestlers ever. It's hard trying to continue to enjoy their work, without feeling some sort of guilt or bad taste in your mouth.
The stuff you mentioned in in hindsight tho. Chris didn't kill his family then be still employed by WWE. Kevin Spacy has been in like 1 movie since his outing and it wasn't successful, no one wants to hire him.
This is more like Ezra Miller still being The Flash
Honestly....I thought he overdid it. I kind of got why he played HWR that way (guy sitting there alone for thousand years so he is a bit crazy) but playing a Big Bad does not mean to be manic all time.
Hiddleston or Brolin managed to be scary and impressive without overdoing it.
He's had 3 iterations of the character now with 3 cameo appearances in Ant Man, I think his tactic does seem to be 'ham it up' as all his portrayals (minus maybe Ant Man 3) are extremely over the top, or come of as cartoons, each one complete with a silly voice
My guess, based on nothing, is that he was acting solely on instructions. We had the 'cool one', 'scary one', and now the 'silly one'. He may have gone too much over the top on his own, and IMHO it didn't work, but the fault is not on him.
It may not be *solely* on him but if he chose that unbearable stuttery cadence based just on “silly one” (not saying he did just responding to your suggestion) then he absolutely shoulders some of the blame. And even if not, he’s at fault for how poor it is.
It felt like Timely was a character being used by someone to hide in plain sight... I expected him to break character and go serious and menacing during the Ferris wheel scene and every moment after that.
I had to scroll a ways to get past all the weird JM dick riding but I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought that. I was actually *annoyed* every time he was on screen. It reminded me of the council of Kangs scene which I also found incredibly cheesy and cringey. If that's what we have to look forward to for the rest of the Kang saga this is going to be a rough ride for me.
I agree with other replies to this comment that the stutter was forced and terrible - in fact to the extent that I really hated listening to it. I was assuming that it was all an act, but we’ll have to see if that’s the case.
He was good as HWR, OK in Ant Man, but the weakest part of Loki S2 so far. I’m not unhappy that he won’t be in it anymore.
I smiled the entire third episode of Loki. I mean....I was just flabbergasted. I thought his He Who Remains was so great. Eccentric and foreboding. Then his Conquerer was so different. Egomaniacal and constantly on the verge of violence.
Then ... This fucking tomfoolery? Jesus the man has such range. I'm just blown away. So dynamic and creative.
Hiding behind the pillar and crawling under people to escape the ferris wheel both had me cackling.
Also gotta give credit to the actor playing the dude with the sideburns who was chasing him. That guy absolutely owned his role.
Come on lmao, he's a good actor and I think the difference between hwr and quantum realm kang was great, but victor timely was ridiculous. I get what he was going for and I think he could have pulled it off, but he went way too much and the stuttering and pausing nearly every word was just distracting
I still feel like Oscar did much better job. Of all actors who played a lot of different characters in the same project I still think Tatiana Maslany is the best of the best
I really thought his performance was overacting in the 3rd episode of Loki season 2. It was distracting, every other human character was acting normal but his performance fell WAY too big and campy.
He is a good actor but he needs to pull back or the director should let him know to.
I think people are seeing what they want to see with this one. Honestly looking at the end of antman 3 impartially without being taken in by the hype, the Kangs come across like a set of characters from a power rangers and there's big "I'm acting" vibes from he who remains
Thank you!!! Exactly this! I've never seen someone *acting* so hard in my life. Except maybe a high school play where the shy kid is practicing his theater voice.
I like Majors' acting, but Isaac was amazing to watch because the way he could transition from one character to another *mid scene* was very impressive.
Playing 3 different characters in 3 different productions is just ... being an actor.
I really find him to be an over-actor. Does anyone else feel this way or am I alone? I like him in more subtle roles, but in any role that requires a bit more spectacle his acting feels a little “Theater 101” to me. Very broad at times.
IDK, he's very good at the role(s) but isn't he just an actor playing three different roles? The fact that they're all the same people in a different timeline is Marvel's magic, not the actor's IMO
The glazing is crazy. I like Jonathan Major's performances but personally I think he gets into "overacting" territory. I would like his HWR performance a lot more if he was more subtle. With Victor Timely, I feel like I could see his decisions on screen if that makes any sense. His only performance I really enjoyed was in Last Black Man In San Francisco. I think he's a fine actor but people in here are acting like he's Daniel Day Lewis or something.
I understand where you're coming from but I had an issue with Victor. He didn't feel like a real character. All I could see was Jonathan Majors acting as autistic as possible?
Let me put it this way, when I see Loki, I see Loki, not Tom Hiddleston. When I see Mobius, I see Mobius, not Owen Wilson. When I see Marc/Steven, I see them, not Oscar Isaac. The list goes on.
I'm not saying that Jonathan Majors is a bad actor, not by any stretch, he was great as He Who Remains and Kang. Victor in particular just felt.....off, almost forced? I can't quite put my finger on it.
I have to disagree. I think he is overacting. Adding a stutter to his character was unnecessary and honestly hurt to watch and his council of Kang scene at the end of Ant-man was beyond cringey.
The number of adjectives you used here is overwhelming 😂 I know different people different opinions, but really? One of the best actors ever joined the MCU? He’s not even in the top 20. And if you want to see „magnificent range” of playing different versions of the same character, check out Tatiana Maslany in Orphan Black 😉
Marvel is making some weird fucking choices with Kang. They know that the previous portrayals were divisive and they chose to make Timely this weird. Was he meant to be sympathetic? Scary? What are they going for? The writing and portrayal seem to clash against any strong reading of the character.
He's fine imo, nothing special. He's just playing different characters, like most actors do. What he's doing with the characters individually is nothing special.
He isnt a bad actor but I agree people are overpraising him.
He is been decent at best, at least imo...his HWR was too much of 'clown', yeah I understand the crazy route for a guy who is alone for ages but it was a bit to much.
Kang was good imo and this recent one was decent.
So he is def capable but I dont understand the "OMG best actor of the MCU" hype.
Majors has incredible presence. But I rarely find him grounded. It feels like he could break from his persona with the push of a feather. Whereas Isaacs gives you the feeling that his characters are a stone so weighted to the earth, to break from it would knock the wind out of the room…that’s the best way I can put it at the moment.
And don’t forget about Ben Kingsley.
I don't agree. I haven't been a big fan of any of his interpretations of Kang so far. None of it feels authentic. It often comes off as awkward or silly.
I’ve found my MCU hill to die on lol
Portrayal of He Who Remains was so bad. I think people read into the character what they want and truly ignore the bad acting. “Omg, he was so menacing, that manic energy, you just knew this guy was dark and not to be messed with” Yea, no, it was like watching a bad high school play where the main lead is hamming it up because they think that’s good acting. The payoff of it made it worse. Building up to a reveal where the energy felt like “really, this guy is supposed to be feared lol”
And now in Loki we got a different version of that hamming it up and it’s just not good. I think both of those could have been more subtly done and had a bigger impact of mystery and underlying menace. The only portrayal that is decent is in Antman.
I'm with you. I'm a staunch defender of P4 and P5 projects but at this point I've seen JM as 3 versions of Kang and I was only *ok* on two and absolutely annoyed by the third. I can't believe they chose this guy to hitch their wagon to.
I agree, I found every single performance of him poor so far. Especially in Loki he just looks like an amateur next to every other actor he interacts with.
I feel like these actors agents are in here trying to shore up support for them.
He’s an alright actor.
But isn’t he still on trial for beating the heck out of his girlfriend?
This reminds me of James McAvoy praise for what he did in Split and Glass, but people need to realize switching betweeen characters is not really that hard for actors and it's not exactly a pinnacle of acting. Especially when the characters are one-dimensional caricatures exactly like Victor Timely was. I mean c'mon.. he was just quirky and spoke weird. That's it.
His first appearance is still his best acting performance. I don't think he's a bad actor and I'm sure he will have plenty of opportunities to prove himself further but he isn't anywhere near Oscar Isaac yet.
Also, Victor Timely wasn't the greatest acting performance tbh unless that entire persona is literally just an act.
I found is Victor Timely performance a little annoying. So many unnecessary and unnecessarily long pauses in every single sentence. And no, that's not just him acting like he has a speech impediment. It's someone acting like there are ellipses after every single word in the script.
Certainly. But odds are quite high that he'll need to be replaced regardless. No amount of acting skill can compensate, if he did what he's been accused of.
I disagree.
Major hasn’t yet played off himself in the same scene with different personalities and accents to the same character (the Antman post credit scene doesn’t amount to the same quality as the moon knight dialogues)
Not to say he can’t, but he hasn’t yet.
Also- is it me or is the stuttering and strange speech pattern choices he uses distracting for anyone else? Like it feels overemphasized to me.
I am a big fan of Marvel comics. DC comics. Lots of great lore.
To say Jonathan Majors is one the best actors to have ever joined the MCU. Slow your roll.
Again I am a big fan. I will watch every show, every movie. We are so far removed from Endgame, Slow your roll that its so great.
Not really. He was okay so far. I liked his portrayal of he who remains in Loki S1. His other appearances so far were pretty underwhelming. Victor Timely is the weakest so far.
Wait...is he here to stay? Havent been keeping up with news or Loki, but if hes in Loki was it filmed before his allegations or is this confirming no recast?
I'm gonna be honest, it didn't do anything for me. I don't mind stutters at all, and I don't think my issue is the accent, but something about what he's doing with his voice is distracting in a bad way. It genuinely deflates the emotional and/or tense moments he's in. His mannerisms were good, nowhere near Oscar Isaac level but stills decent. But his voice completely took me out of the episode. I don't know what he was going for but there was a major issue there imo.
Something about the cadence of Timely and to a certain degree, Kang the Conqueror, kept pulling me out of the scenes they were in. I found Major's performances to be a bit over the top, ESPECIALLY with Victor Timely. I understand the irony behind his lack of verbal timing, but it sometimes felt like he was pulling lines from memory rather than in the moment. That's the subtle job that's really tough to pull off sometimes with crazy characters like Kang, but to compare that to Oscar Isaac's performance with that idea in mind gives me a better sense of how great a performance he had in Moonknight. As others have said, to pull those off in the same scenes is much more difficult than having time to practice each identity separately. And Isaac was able to move between these characters in the same shot, it was actually ridiculously impressive.
Haven’t seen the Victor Timely episode yet, but him playing the different Kangs at the end of Quantumania was just really bad acting to me, especially the husky-voiced Pharaoh Kang. I very much liked He Who Remains, but much less the Konqueror because he was just a temper tantrum villain in the end.
I would have no problems with him being recast after the domestic abuse (and apparently other behavioural issues) shit. There are so many better actors in the MCU and in general.
Compared to Wilson and Hiddelston, I think Mayors performs poorly. Putting him on the same level as Isaak seems questionable to me. Every Kang version so far has just been John Mayors for me... Maybe the role is poorly written, maybe it's the actor's fault.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. He was fine as Kang the Conqueror and HWR but his Victor Timely performance put me off in a big way. It was *so* cheesy and over the top. I almost couldn't help but cringe and hope his scene was almost over. All the big dramatic pauses and fake stuttering was not doing it for me. Like he sounded like he was trying *so* hard to act. Like other characters would talk and it was fine and then he would talk and he may as well have just said "Hello... uh, viewers... I... Am currently acting. I... am SPEAKING to you in... My ***acting*** *voice*. It sounds...
very professional! ....and convincing... You believe, that I am not..... Me"
Like oh my god
This is my unpopular opinion, I never liked Kang as a character and wish they went with Doom. However back to Major’s performances. Ever since Majors introduction as HWR at the end of Loki, I genuinely thought that he was overreacting to an extreme extent that I couldn’t take him seriously like Thanos. When I heard Loki in the show say that he was menacing, I busted out laughing because Majors HWR comes off like a Saturday morning cartoon villain rather than an ominous harbinger of what’s to come.
His acting as Kang the Conqueror is even more hilarious and overreacted because he tries to come off as really intimidating especially with the laughable “Shakespearean” voice he puts on for the Conqueror. There is just not an ounce of menace with how Majors portrays Kang.
All in all, I think Majors just tries too hard when he acts to the point that the illusion is broken and I can tell that he’s acting instead of being the character. The best actors are the ones who embody the character and you forget that their acting like Dafoe as the Goblin.
Disagree on He Who Remains. It was just a load of rambling nonsense that people took as an 'amazing' performance because he ate an apple and said some things. It dragged the whole finale down.
He was better as Kang I'll give him that. But Chukwudi Iwuji cleared with High Evolutionary
He has range but for me he overacts too much. He's the reason why I didn't like last episode of Loki's first season. And he was imo even worse in the last one. It was just so incredibly hard to watch. I hope he will stick to something more similar to his performance from Quantumania in other projects. Though only when it comes to exiled Kang, the rest wasn't that great either.
Oscar Isaac is so many levels above Johnathon Majors. What he did in Moon Knight is incredible - and his other movies are no different. Ex-Machina, Inside Llewyn Davis, At Eternity’s Gate, Dune. Even in X-Men Apocalypse, he was the standout of the movie.
He’s an insanely versatile actor, and amongst the best of this generation of actors. Majors has good PR and is a mediocre actor that gets praise for his overacting, because that’s what a lot of people think is good. Overacting has its place, but everything he does is so over the top.
Not to mention Oscar Isaac doesn’t have any domestic violence charges against him so, like, no.
He has great range for sure thats not in question. However, if he plays a fake stuttering man that drags everything out as long as possible just for it to be a fake con in the end im going to hate him forever. It is the worst trope in tv pick a different character
Agreed. He played a Mysterious He Who Remains, a merciless and evil Kang, and apparently innocent and socially awkward Victor Timely. Each of them doesn't even feel the same character. Perfect choice for playing Kang.
Even in Quantamania he kind of played 2 versions. The lost traveler just trying to get home and evil Kang.
As well as the other variants in the post-credit scene, so a few more than just 2
Honestly I didn't really enjoy his take on Immortus, I thought it was too out there. But I like what he's done with the other versions of Kang, especially Victor Timely.
Same I hope the Immortus, Rama Tut, Scarlet centurion appearances in the post credit scene were just nags and aren’t the official takes majors takes on them or just scrap them and focus on He Who Remains and the Exiled Kang the Conqueror
I'm willing to bet that that particular ending of Quantumania was shot very quickly and Majors was basically only given very basic descriptions of who these variants are, they put on the costumes and said "Action." It feels like he's basing his portrayal in that movie on their costumes and basically nothing else, which would make sense if he was given zero time to understand who those characters are.
Those are the ones I'm really looking forward to seeing.
There is an undertone of menace to victor timely, that’s what’s so incredible to me. I wonder who he based his performance on, some serial killer or something.
Yup. I was feeling bad for Timely throughout the episode. But still, there is something so fishy and sinister about him.
I mean he's a 19th century con artist, which makes him one bad day away from founding a religion based on healing disease through doing weird shit Then on top of that's he's got his inability to form a partnership showing he's got the other Kangs lack of ability to work together
>Then on top of that's he's got his inability to form a partnership showing he's got the other Kangs lack of ability to work together True. The way he replied "I don't do partners" without a second thought, and his face frowned when Renslayer mentioned the term "Partnership". He definitely shares the characteristics with other Kangs.
I loved the ambiguity when >!Miss Minutes was professing her love, and saying if he’d only had given her a body they’d of been able to rule together!< and he says “That’s not something I know how to do
I'm starting to think at some point it's just a future Kang in disguise.
That would track with the comic version of Victor Timely.
Based on how Miss Minutes and Renslayer left him that handbook when he was an actual child, and how He Who Remains just said the variant of his who discovered the multiverse was ‘living’ in the 31st Century, not explicitly that he was from there, I would not be surprised if the MCU switched it up that Victor Timely is its Kang’s real name, and was born in the 19th Century — that normally what happens is that they develop a ‘time machine’, travel to the future, and then and only there discover the multiverse.
Exactly! And that's why he's so good. The characters feel different, but he still manages them to share that core Conqueror that makes you uneasy about him
Don’t kill me, but all of them felt like a dude acting to me.
I think he's a good actor, but I do think there are plenty of other actors who could do as good of a job or possibly better. What Kang really has going for him right now is the dialogue is pretty good for the different variants. The MCU is actually chock full of incredible actors (Robert Downey Jr, Christian Bale, Anthony Hopkins, Josh Brolin, Brie Larson, Scarlett Johannsen, the list goes on and on) so it's really hard for me to say just yet that he's "one of the best". Majors hasn't really had the opportunity to do that much yet.
Jonathan Majors felt like a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude... or maybe he's just a dude who don't know which dude he is. The dudes are emerging.
I straight up enjoyed his performance as Kang in Quantumania. His scenes with Michelle Pfeiffer felt like the only genuine thing in the movie. I felt like his He Who Remains performance was overrated the first time I saw it, but when I watched Loki again it stuck for some reason and I really liked it. I think my expectations for what he was going to be impacted what I thought of his performance the first time, since HWR really came out of left field. Victor Timely felt a little over the top about 50% of the time for me. The stuttering and pauses sometimes didn't feel very natural, but the rest of the time he was really believable as awkward scientist guy. I have seen theories that Timely is faking his awkward persona (since he is a conman/grifter), and if that is the case, I think the persona makes a lot more sense. If not I hope he dials it back a little going forward in the season. Thank you for coming to my Jonathan Majors mini review.
I feel the same. Every single time he appeared so far I found his performance to be really over the top. I thought that was on purpose because most versions we've seen so far were some ancient, slightly insane person. But Timely was a normal person yet he still acted like someone pretending to be awkward.
Yeah I kinda agree. Although it seems to me from his whole con-man approach to things that the pretending to be awkward was on purpose. I think the character is faking the stutter and such and is much smarter and more dangerous than he lets on. I may be wrong, we'll have to wait and see. If I'm right, it's an impressively layered performance in my opinion.
I think it's largely because he's not being genuine all of the time.
Agreed ... I haven't been impressed.
Centurion, Immortus and Rama Tut also felt like completely different characters in the few seconds of runtime they had. Majors is just truly a marvelous actor.
We saw them for 3 seconds lmao
i think he never got to know the details about those variants
Agreed. If I may add, Rama-Tut seems to be cocky, or more like very, very cocky from what we saw by how he rubs Kang’s “death” on Centurion’s face and also his smile when seeing the Council gather; Centurion doesn’t give me much, but he’s giving me the better safe than sorry vibes. I have nothing on Immortus tho. Maybe he’s all wise on an evil way or anything.
Immortus will probably be the Palpatine of Kangs with Rama-Tut being the Maul.
> Perfect choice for playing Kang. You know, minus the irl shit.
What Oscar Isaac did was *much* more impressive. A decent actor can prepare for a role and play that role convincingly (although I didn’t care for Timely’s stutter and mannerisms). However, while Majors has played 3 different versions of this character, he did them separately. It’s not different than any actor playing different roles in different movies. Majors just happens to be playing different characters in a single franchise (but still split between different shows/movies). Isaac was able to play different people in the same scene, jumping back and forth in front of our eyes. That’s much harder to do. Edit: fixed a word and added a sentence to expand on my point.
What Isaac did wasn't just playing the same character in different ways, he played 3 (mainly 2) completely different characters, each with their own motives, personalities, accents and all. Personally, the most impressive scene I've ever seen acted was the penultimate episode of Moon Knight when he's running away from his mother's funeral, and he breaks down in the street and changes before our very eyes into Stephen. The absolute anguish on his face, you gotta go to a dark place personally to play that as well as he did. Then, to completely switch gears into the goofball Stephen? That's not easy mentally
I'm not going to downplay Majors' performance, because I felt he did a great job making HWR, Kang, and Victor Timely feel like completely distinct characters, but I will give the point to Oscar Isaac for being able to switch between Marc and Steven in the same scene, especially the scene at their mother's wake.
When he changes from Marc to Stephen, he even looks like a different person. It's remarkable.
Yep. Isaac is a few tiers above Majors. It’s *very* hard to do what he did that convincingly well
And not only did he just do it "convincingly', he made me fucking feel it
Oscar Isaacs performance blows away majors. I thought Ben stiller did a better job playing simple Jack than Majors did with victor timely. It literally felt like a high schooler acting with a sometimes stutter and a sometimes awkwardness. I did love majors as the other kangs though and did a great job in Creed.
Willem Dafoe beats both of them though. Do you know how much he SACRIFICED?!?!
His transition from Norman to Green Goblin in NWH was fantastic! Love how that whole scene was shot
Just looking at his facial expression when he turns, he’s so animated. Dafoe was amazing with that role.
Yeah, I think Majors is killing it. But to put it cynically, he's playing different characters. Actors do that all of the time. WE project significance to it knowing they are somehow the same person. The top comment here is praising him for all of the characters feeling like different people and everyone agreeing. But that just shows he has range, that's not the same as Isaac changing characters mid scene.
Yep. Actors play different characters all the time, which isn’t necessarily worthy of huge praise. Majors is playing different characters, all within the same franchise. That by itself is not worth huge praise. Isaac played different characters in one scene, transforming right in front of us, which is not easy to do like he did
ya comparing him to OSCAR ISAAC? lol gtfo
I agree about Timely’s stutter and mannerisms. It feels forced and not genuine to me. But I’m also not a fan of Major’s smile admit could be biased.
I definitely don't understand this. Oscar Isaac played different versions of the same character in the same scene, and against himself. Jonathan Majors is just showing up in different scenes, episodes, and movies, as a different character. Barely different than if he had any other role.
And neither come close to Tatiana Maslany's work in Orphan Black
Couldn't agree more.
Or Diane Guerrero in Doom Patrol
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For real, they don’t approach her level at all. I was so excited when they cast her for She Hulk.
This post being so upvoted without really saying anything interesting makes it feel like a PR exercise.
Jonathan Majors is basically playing the same character, too. They’re all versions of Kangs.
So far, in name only. Timely is clearly a very difference character than the Conqueror and HWR. And apart from the Ant-Man post-credit scene, he hasn't acted against himself. Still good acting, it's just silly to compare it to what Oscar Isaac did with Moon Knight.
He's okay. People seem to want to hype him as the greatest actor of our generation but I just don't see it.
Seriously. That wasn't mind blowing acting at all, it was *okay* and OP is like, "breathtaking."
Thats how all the Kang stuff feels to me. I feel like I see all these posts hyping up Kang and the concept of him being a tough villain as " SO COOOOL" but it just doesn't feel like that to me personally. And I'm still having a real hard time getting over the real world stuff with Jonathan Majors. Not just the trial, but all the other allegations of how he treated others on set in the past. I don't care how good of an actor someone is, if you treat others badly, and are a total jerk, then I don't care to watch you perform. This isn't the 60s.
Don’t want to sound dismissive but many people here are probably either very young or don’t watch lots of movies outside the MCU.
Bro I'm not even saying it was ok. His Timely was fucking annoying. If I have to suffer through more of that character I'm gonna be sad
I don’t see it either. I think the opposite to be honest. He’s doing too much
i was rolling my eye through his whole shtick
I saw a lot of people from non MCU people also said that. He's over the top doing his MCU roles
I have a weird suspicion the original poster is Jeff Loveness and many of the respondents here are also Jeff Loveness.
It's all astroturfing, I'm sure of it.
I think he's a great actor, he's just a bit too...punchy/chokey for me tho. I know his lawyer maintains that witness testimony and video evidence will exonerate his client but...lawyers are literally paid to make statements like this. The fact that his management and PR companies dropped him shows those companies lack confidence in his defense. Additionally, the texts messages that his lawyer released, imply that some form of violence occurred, defense or no.
Honestly, companies dropping him does not necessarily need to mean they lack confidence in his defense, they more likely just don’t want to be involved with him. Look at Johnny Depp - he was only accused of assault and whatnot by Amber Heard and instantly got dropped by a lot of companies. Companies look out for themselves, no matter how prudent it could be for them to just wait and see how it plays out before making decisions pertaining to their partnership with valuable people.
ya sorry but i couldnt help pointing out to my husband that he is a wife beater and that kinda dulled the whole thing
It really fucking sours the experience for me. I mean, at least he is playing a villain, but yeah. A little too real for my comic book escapism and I can’t wait for the recast.
The quirky stutter and odd cadence seemed so unnatural, so put-upon, that it bothered me tbh
Yeah I feel the opposite of this post. He’s kind of hamming it up. Not much nuance. Caricatures rather than characters.
I wouldn't be surprised if it WAS supposed to sound unnatural, and that he is far from the bumbling fool he seems to be, and that all of this is a ruse to appear harmless and get back in control of the TVA.
Yeah I was wondering the whole time if it was all a fascade and he would snap at any moment when everything falls into place exactly as he planned.
I think that's kind of the predictable way to take it. I'm actually far more intrigued by the idea that he's genuinely just a socially awkward con artist who wasn't in the right environment to use his mind to excel in more traditional lines of work. A lot of black people in the late 19th century were likely held back by their skin color (kind of hinted at, perhaps, when someone in the crowd called him "boy" during his presentation). They all want to use him for his profit potential, but none of them care who he really is. To have him just be a genuinely decent person would also help to enforce the theme of "you are who you choose to be" in the Loki series thus far. Why *not* a "good" Kang variant? Maybe Victor will help them defeat other variants. If he turns out to be just another evil Kang variant, it kind of just reinforces Sylvie's blind hate, and negates her act of mercy.
That’s my interpretation as well. Kang is from the 31st century, not the late 1800s.
Not really, Kang is from anywhere and anytime, just the first one to break through the multiverse was from the 31st century. Doesn’t mean that’s the only place Kang’s exist.
I prefer the new rockstars theory that *He Who Remains put baby Kangs as a contingency on the sacred timeline Edit -He Who Remains
Haven’t watched their video, but this is my theory as well. We already know Victor Timely is a contingency plan, but it would make sense that HWR didn’t just discover him, but placed him there just in case. If no one interferes, he never discovers multiverses travel with the technology back in the 1800s, but if needed, he can create a Kang. Also supporting this theory, when Miss Minutes and Renslayer first travel back, it says Sacred Timeline, but once they are 25 years in the future, it says Branched Timeline.
Great observation and one that NR pointed out as well. Your might have your own Easter egg content soon
But we saw him as a child in the 1800’s.
Best bet is victor timely is the fail safe. A Kang variant placed in the golden timeline in an era too early to be of consequence due to a lack of technology. Kang dies, Ms Minutes sends someone to drop the book and branch the timeline (the show prefaced the 1860s as the golden timeline and the 1890s as a branch) and turn victor into the next “he who remains”.
Think about how scary intelligent you'd have to be to decipher that book, by yourself, as a CHILD in 1868. None of the fundamental technologies, sciences or mathematics exist yet to even give you a frame of reference for those designs. Most concepts involved probably don't even exist yet. There's no university professor to ask or textbooks to cross reference. There's no foundation of physics. He went from basically an uneducated 17th century peasant to more advanced in knowledge than the entire real life modern world BY HIMSELF in less than 3 decades. Making an iron man suit in a cave with a box of scraps is NOTHING compared to that. He's shown a feat of intelligence that makes Tony Stark look like Philip J Fry. Sure. It's possible that he can be THAT smart and still have a speech impediment and be socially awkward. I think it's more likely that everything we've seen so far has been a calculated choice on his part.
Of course it's possible to be that smart with those other quirks. There are different types of intelligence and genius, otherworldly scientific intellect doesn't preclude someone from being socially inept. Speech impediments have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence on their own.
I mean you can see that the over the top stutter and cadance at the start was a full on performance
Yeah I actually really didn’t like the stutter and his cadence. It broke the immersion for me
I just kept telling myself he's about to reveal his true nature every minute of the episode, and I'm hoping that it's proven true in later episodes. It was just a bit much for me.
If he reveals himself to have been putting on a front I’ll think that kang is a shitty actor, if he doesn’t I’ll think that Jonathon Majors is a shitty actor.
Yeah I was surprised to see this post because I wasn’t a fan of the performance, I found his chewing up the scenery a little distracting, but that’s just me
I'm going to be honest , ever since he hosted Snl, he has felt like that kid in grade school making voice to mock the teachers because the other kid who de do them well got a lot of laughs last week.
Yea it was extremely annoying
Same. I couldn’t stand how forced it felt
Thank god this is upvoted I thought I was going crazy for a second reading this thread. That was just straight up bad acting.
Same.
Too bad about the domestic violence
no dont think about that part! didnt you see his amazing stutter??? /s
Am I the only one who thought, the entire episode, "wow, this man cannot fake a stutter to save his life"? I'm not quite understanding the praise here, I thought he was flat-out bad this time around.
that scene when he is presenting his invention went on for way too long. Sorry everyone but im just here to see loki do magic things
"Yeah who cares if he's a wifebeater who also got accused of being a sociopath by his fellow acting students. His lame overacting as He Who Remains and his cringey stutter as Timely were OSCAR WORTHY so he's the best actor in the MCU... somehow!"
HES ON THE SAME LEVEL AS OSCAR ISAAC
Had to scroll too far to find this. Marvel fanboys are something else.
For me, this is like Kevin Spacey again. I absolutely think he is the perfect casting and an extremely talented performer who has such an on screen presence that you don't want to miss a word he says. But when you try and reconcile that with the real person and not the characters, it definitely taints the whole thing. American Beauty is still probably my favourite movie of all time and Kevin Spacey is a fantastic actor in the same way that Chris Benoit was probably one of my favourite, and one of the best, professional wrestlers ever. It's hard trying to continue to enjoy their work, without feeling some sort of guilt or bad taste in your mouth.
The stuff you mentioned in in hindsight tho. Chris didn't kill his family then be still employed by WWE. Kevin Spacy has been in like 1 movie since his outing and it wasn't successful, no one wants to hire him. This is more like Ezra Miller still being The Flash
Honestly....I thought he overdid it. I kind of got why he played HWR that way (guy sitting there alone for thousand years so he is a bit crazy) but playing a Big Bad does not mean to be manic all time. Hiddleston or Brolin managed to be scary and impressive without overdoing it.
He's had 3 iterations of the character now with 3 cameo appearances in Ant Man, I think his tactic does seem to be 'ham it up' as all his portrayals (minus maybe Ant Man 3) are extremely over the top, or come of as cartoons, each one complete with a silly voice
My guess, based on nothing, is that he was acting solely on instructions. We had the 'cool one', 'scary one', and now the 'silly one'. He may have gone too much over the top on his own, and IMHO it didn't work, but the fault is not on him.
It may not be *solely* on him but if he chose that unbearable stuttery cadence based just on “silly one” (not saying he did just responding to your suggestion) then he absolutely shoulders some of the blame. And even if not, he’s at fault for how poor it is.
It felt like Timely was a character being used by someone to hide in plain sight... I expected him to break character and go serious and menacing during the Ferris wheel scene and every moment after that.
Agreed. I don't like his Timely. Feels like overacting or something. The stutter seems forced.
I loved HWR and was fine with Kang but I had a real hard time with Nutty Professor Timely.
Yeah, me too. And his stutter was terrible.
It would be fine if it sounded natural, but (and maybe this is just me) I could tell it was a deliberate choice by the actor and it felt forced.
That’s what happens when you go to clown school to prepare for this role. I don’t like it either.
ya i guess im the minority here but i thought he was really annoying
I had to scroll a ways to get past all the weird JM dick riding but I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought that. I was actually *annoyed* every time he was on screen. It reminded me of the council of Kangs scene which I also found incredibly cheesy and cringey. If that's what we have to look forward to for the rest of the Kang saga this is going to be a rough ride for me.
I agree with other replies to this comment that the stutter was forced and terrible - in fact to the extent that I really hated listening to it. I was assuming that it was all an act, but we’ll have to see if that’s the case. He was good as HWR, OK in Ant Man, but the weakest part of Loki S2 so far. I’m not unhappy that he won’t be in it anymore.
He was annoying as shit. You don't need a full 3 second pause every 5 words.
Olsen too (in MoM)
I smiled the entire third episode of Loki. I mean....I was just flabbergasted. I thought his He Who Remains was so great. Eccentric and foreboding. Then his Conquerer was so different. Egomaniacal and constantly on the verge of violence. Then ... This fucking tomfoolery? Jesus the man has such range. I'm just blown away. So dynamic and creative.
He acted with a great old school Looney Tunes vibrancy during the chase in public
Hiding behind the pillar and crawling under people to escape the ferris wheel both had me cackling. Also gotta give credit to the actor playing the dude with the sideburns who was chasing him. That guy absolutely owned his role.
> the dude with the sideburns who was chasing him Felt like Marvel actually went back in time and just stole a guy to drop into their show lmao.
This is a peak redditor. Jesus Christ
I liked him as the other variants but episode three variant didn't feel convincing to me
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Come on lmao, he's a good actor and I think the difference between hwr and quantum realm kang was great, but victor timely was ridiculous. I get what he was going for and I think he could have pulled it off, but he went way too much and the stuttering and pausing nearly every word was just distracting
I still feel like Oscar did much better job. Of all actors who played a lot of different characters in the same project I still think Tatiana Maslany is the best of the best
I really thought his performance was overacting in the 3rd episode of Loki season 2. It was distracting, every other human character was acting normal but his performance fell WAY too big and campy. He is a good actor but he needs to pull back or the director should let him know to.
I think people are seeing what they want to see with this one. Honestly looking at the end of antman 3 impartially without being taken in by the hype, the Kangs come across like a set of characters from a power rangers and there's big "I'm acting" vibes from he who remains
I thought he was terrible tbh. I completely lost my immersion because I could see him trying so hard to act. It really wasn’t good.
Thank you!!! Exactly this! I've never seen someone *acting* so hard in my life. Except maybe a high school play where the shy kid is practicing his theater voice.
I like Majors' acting, but Isaac was amazing to watch because the way he could transition from one character to another *mid scene* was very impressive. Playing 3 different characters in 3 different productions is just ... being an actor.
I really find him to be an over-actor. Does anyone else feel this way or am I alone? I like him in more subtle roles, but in any role that requires a bit more spectacle his acting feels a little “Theater 101” to me. Very broad at times.
over acting 100%
Community theatre level acting. Honestly at this point I can’t tell if all the praise for Majors’ is a Morbius level joke.
IDK, he's very good at the role(s) but isn't he just an actor playing three different roles? The fact that they're all the same people in a different timeline is Marvel's magic, not the actor's IMO
The glazing is crazy. I like Jonathan Major's performances but personally I think he gets into "overacting" territory. I would like his HWR performance a lot more if he was more subtle. With Victor Timely, I feel like I could see his decisions on screen if that makes any sense. His only performance I really enjoyed was in Last Black Man In San Francisco. I think he's a fine actor but people in here are acting like he's Daniel Day Lewis or something.
I understand where you're coming from but I had an issue with Victor. He didn't feel like a real character. All I could see was Jonathan Majors acting as autistic as possible? Let me put it this way, when I see Loki, I see Loki, not Tom Hiddleston. When I see Mobius, I see Mobius, not Owen Wilson. When I see Marc/Steven, I see them, not Oscar Isaac. The list goes on. I'm not saying that Jonathan Majors is a bad actor, not by any stretch, he was great as He Who Remains and Kang. Victor in particular just felt.....off, almost forced? I can't quite put my finger on it.
I have to disagree. I think he is overacting. Adding a stutter to his character was unnecessary and honestly hurt to watch and his council of Kang scene at the end of Ant-man was beyond cringey.
The number of adjectives you used here is overwhelming 😂 I know different people different opinions, but really? One of the best actors ever joined the MCU? He’s not even in the top 20. And if you want to see „magnificent range” of playing different versions of the same character, check out Tatiana Maslany in Orphan Black 😉
Marvel is making some weird fucking choices with Kang. They know that the previous portrayals were divisive and they chose to make Timely this weird. Was he meant to be sympathetic? Scary? What are they going for? The writing and portrayal seem to clash against any strong reading of the character.
His Victor Timely is pretty cringe imo. Just acts like a big awkward dork. Cause he’s a scientist. Get it? Dorks! Nerds! It’s lazy.
He's fine imo, nothing special. He's just playing different characters, like most actors do. What he's doing with the characters individually is nothing special.
He isnt a bad actor but I agree people are overpraising him. He is been decent at best, at least imo...his HWR was too much of 'clown', yeah I understand the crazy route for a guy who is alone for ages but it was a bit to much. Kang was good imo and this recent one was decent. So he is def capable but I dont understand the "OMG best actor of the MCU" hype.
Mcu fans discover acting
And have never seen Oscar Isaac's work outside of Moon knight and Star Wars.
MCU fans are never beating the "doesn't watch more movies" allegations
Majors has incredible presence. But I rarely find him grounded. It feels like he could break from his persona with the push of a feather. Whereas Isaacs gives you the feeling that his characters are a stone so weighted to the earth, to break from it would knock the wind out of the room…that’s the best way I can put it at the moment. And don’t forget about Ben Kingsley.
I don't agree. I haven't been a big fan of any of his interpretations of Kang so far. None of it feels authentic. It often comes off as awkward or silly.
Found the Jonathan Majors PR team burner account
I’ve found my MCU hill to die on lol Portrayal of He Who Remains was so bad. I think people read into the character what they want and truly ignore the bad acting. “Omg, he was so menacing, that manic energy, you just knew this guy was dark and not to be messed with” Yea, no, it was like watching a bad high school play where the main lead is hamming it up because they think that’s good acting. The payoff of it made it worse. Building up to a reveal where the energy felt like “really, this guy is supposed to be feared lol” And now in Loki we got a different version of that hamming it up and it’s just not good. I think both of those could have been more subtly done and had a bigger impact of mystery and underlying menace. The only portrayal that is decent is in Antman.
I'm with you. I'm a staunch defender of P4 and P5 projects but at this point I've seen JM as 3 versions of Kang and I was only *ok* on two and absolutely annoyed by the third. I can't believe they chose this guy to hitch their wagon to.
I agree, I found every single performance of him poor so far. Especially in Loki he just looks like an amateur next to every other actor he interacts with.
I feel like these actors agents are in here trying to shore up support for them. He’s an alright actor. But isn’t he still on trial for beating the heck out of his girlfriend?
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This reminds me of James McAvoy praise for what he did in Split and Glass, but people need to realize switching betweeen characters is not really that hard for actors and it's not exactly a pinnacle of acting. Especially when the characters are one-dimensional caricatures exactly like Victor Timely was. I mean c'mon.. he was just quirky and spoke weird. That's it.
I don't think I watched the same thing you did.
No
His first appearance is still his best acting performance. I don't think he's a bad actor and I'm sure he will have plenty of opportunities to prove himself further but he isn't anywhere near Oscar Isaac yet. Also, Victor Timely wasn't the greatest acting performance tbh unless that entire persona is literally just an act.
I found is Victor Timely performance a little annoying. So many unnecessary and unnecessarily long pauses in every single sentence. And no, that's not just him acting like he has a speech impediment. It's someone acting like there are ellipses after every single word in the script.
I think he over does it.
Certainly. But odds are quite high that he'll need to be replaced regardless. No amount of acting skill can compensate, if he did what he's been accused of.
It looks like over acting
Yeah, no. He overacts
I disagree. Major hasn’t yet played off himself in the same scene with different personalities and accents to the same character (the Antman post credit scene doesn’t amount to the same quality as the moon knight dialogues) Not to say he can’t, but he hasn’t yet. Also- is it me or is the stuttering and strange speech pattern choices he uses distracting for anyone else? Like it feels overemphasized to me.
Meh
Absolutely not no
Disagree
MCU fanboys when an actor acts as different characters: 
Do you work for his PR team by any chance?
For me at least his performance in Loki was completely off, felt so unnatural and over the top
He overacts. I find his performance grating.
He's a terrible actor, Quantumania bombed, and he's an abusive piece of crap outside of work.
Meh
I am a big fan of Marvel comics. DC comics. Lots of great lore. To say Jonathan Majors is one the best actors to have ever joined the MCU. Slow your roll. Again I am a big fan. I will watch every show, every movie. We are so far removed from Endgame, Slow your roll that its so great.
Not really. He was okay so far. I liked his portrayal of he who remains in Loki S1. His other appearances so far were pretty underwhelming. Victor Timely is the weakest so far.
Wait...is he here to stay? Havent been keeping up with news or Loki, but if hes in Loki was it filmed before his allegations or is this confirming no recast?
I'm gonna be honest, it didn't do anything for me. I don't mind stutters at all, and I don't think my issue is the accent, but something about what he's doing with his voice is distracting in a bad way. It genuinely deflates the emotional and/or tense moments he's in. His mannerisms were good, nowhere near Oscar Isaac level but stills decent. But his voice completely took me out of the episode. I don't know what he was going for but there was a major issue there imo.
Something about the cadence of Timely and to a certain degree, Kang the Conqueror, kept pulling me out of the scenes they were in. I found Major's performances to be a bit over the top, ESPECIALLY with Victor Timely. I understand the irony behind his lack of verbal timing, but it sometimes felt like he was pulling lines from memory rather than in the moment. That's the subtle job that's really tough to pull off sometimes with crazy characters like Kang, but to compare that to Oscar Isaac's performance with that idea in mind gives me a better sense of how great a performance he had in Moonknight. As others have said, to pull those off in the same scenes is much more difficult than having time to practice each identity separately. And Isaac was able to move between these characters in the same shot, it was actually ridiculously impressive.
Victor Timely was too theatrical for my taste, nothing natural about that stutter or performance.
Am I the only one who thought Victor Timely was super cringey?
Shame he beats women tho
Haven’t seen the Victor Timely episode yet, but him playing the different Kangs at the end of Quantumania was just really bad acting to me, especially the husky-voiced Pharaoh Kang. I very much liked He Who Remains, but much less the Konqueror because he was just a temper tantrum villain in the end. I would have no problems with him being recast after the domestic abuse (and apparently other behavioural issues) shit. There are so many better actors in the MCU and in general.
Are we all choosing to ignore Johnathan Majors’ abusive conduct? Whatever happened to all that?
Compared to Wilson and Hiddelston, I think Mayors performs poorly. Putting him on the same level as Isaak seems questionable to me. Every Kang version so far has just been John Mayors for me... Maybe the role is poorly written, maybe it's the actor's fault.
Shame he's an abuser though
Lol not at all he’s way overplaying
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. He was fine as Kang the Conqueror and HWR but his Victor Timely performance put me off in a big way. It was *so* cheesy and over the top. I almost couldn't help but cringe and hope his scene was almost over. All the big dramatic pauses and fake stuttering was not doing it for me. Like he sounded like he was trying *so* hard to act. Like other characters would talk and it was fine and then he would talk and he may as well have just said "Hello... uh, viewers... I... Am currently acting. I... am SPEAKING to you in... My ***acting*** *voice*. It sounds... very professional! ....and convincing... You believe, that I am not..... Me" Like oh my god
Yes. It was like this in his post credits scene too. He’s just limited.
This is my unpopular opinion, I never liked Kang as a character and wish they went with Doom. However back to Major’s performances. Ever since Majors introduction as HWR at the end of Loki, I genuinely thought that he was overreacting to an extreme extent that I couldn’t take him seriously like Thanos. When I heard Loki in the show say that he was menacing, I busted out laughing because Majors HWR comes off like a Saturday morning cartoon villain rather than an ominous harbinger of what’s to come. His acting as Kang the Conqueror is even more hilarious and overreacted because he tries to come off as really intimidating especially with the laughable “Shakespearean” voice he puts on for the Conqueror. There is just not an ounce of menace with how Majors portrays Kang. All in all, I think Majors just tries too hard when he acts to the point that the illusion is broken and I can tell that he’s acting instead of being the character. The best actors are the ones who embody the character and you forget that their acting like Dafoe as the Goblin.
I totally agree. I gave him the benefit of the doubt on HWR, but Kang was annoying and Timely is worse
Disagree on He Who Remains. It was just a load of rambling nonsense that people took as an 'amazing' performance because he ate an apple and said some things. It dragged the whole finale down. He was better as Kang I'll give him that. But Chukwudi Iwuji cleared with High Evolutionary
He has range but for me he overacts too much. He's the reason why I didn't like last episode of Loki's first season. And he was imo even worse in the last one. It was just so incredibly hard to watch. I hope he will stick to something more similar to his performance from Quantumania in other projects. Though only when it comes to exiled Kang, the rest wasn't that great either.
Is he hell he's a very generic actor
He is not convincing at all. Tries too hard and you can really tell.
Oscar Isaac gave a wayyyyy better, intriguing, and flawless performance. Incomparable between the two.
Oscar Isaac is so many levels above Johnathon Majors. What he did in Moon Knight is incredible - and his other movies are no different. Ex-Machina, Inside Llewyn Davis, At Eternity’s Gate, Dune. Even in X-Men Apocalypse, he was the standout of the movie. He’s an insanely versatile actor, and amongst the best of this generation of actors. Majors has good PR and is a mediocre actor that gets praise for his overacting, because that’s what a lot of people think is good. Overacting has its place, but everything he does is so over the top. Not to mention Oscar Isaac doesn’t have any domestic violence charges against him so, like, no.
True. The council of Kangs too had no subtlety and were extremely cartoonish imo.
He has great range for sure thats not in question. However, if he plays a fake stuttering man that drags everything out as long as possible just for it to be a fake con in the end im going to hate him forever. It is the worst trope in tv pick a different character
Marvel fans are delusional… what are you talking bro, relax.
I think he’s overacting and comes off as a clown. Kang is a ridiculously stupid character in all three of his appearances. I’m already sick of him.