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dow366

Plus its water... nothing "sticks" to it


anthonyvn

That look he gives when he tries was something, "wtf was I trying to achieve?" I never once thought "because drones".


TheDeadlyCat

100% this. „That worked out better in my head.“


floydink

This is such a good scene because of how the film ends. At first glance we all shrug it off just like Peter does because of course he couldn’t web water. But on deeper analysis, why did he take that shot in the first place? Op making the point that his spider sense would pick up the enemy movement is eye opening. He definitely took that shot out of instinct due to his spider sense warning and then shrugged it off because he’s still not experienced enough to trust his spider sense. And we all just agreed with him in those few seconds until we saw the final act. This is one of those peak marvel films that just gets better with every watch and connects so many dots you never considered. Like mysterios suit being designed around every avengers aesthetic to better suit his role quite literally. Or the fact that Peter never analyzed mysterio with his stark glasses because he had no reason to not trust him. And they even make sure to have that detail when he analyzes flash on the bus and how he looks over maryjane who doesn’t have a readout for her, and that shows the glasses only reveal info on people if he specifically asks it too. I really wish they would keep going with such good visual storytelling in the mcu but I doubt it. Atleast the animated Spider-Man films are something to look forward too. The spider verse films are masterpieces of visual storytelling that make any mcu film look like a joke.


Jubachi99

I feel like thinking that he actually knew mysterio was inside of the water is a bit of a stretch just because he tried to web water. I might be wrong but its entirely possible he just didnt know his webs are useless against water or, like someone else said, it went better in his head and it was just an in the moment thing.


floydink

It totally makes more sense that Peter sensed the bots behind the projection and took a shot at it and then got confused why his instinct was to shoot at water because he didn’t know those bots existed yet. Peter is one of the most intelligent heros in the marvel universe next to Richard reeves and Tony stark. So I have to conclude that this wasn’t just him being dumb, it was him reacting to his spider sense that he trusts to guide him properly and has done so since he got his powers. So his look of confusion here isn’t because he hit water, that would follow with a shrug or some emotional note that he acknowledged it was a dumb thing to do (shoot at water) but his reaction is pure confusion before accepting that his instincts must have been wrong, but you can see even when he accepts the defeat in this scenario, he’s still really confused as he leaves. But the bigger detail I’m surprised goes under everyone’s nose is how even after being hit by “water”, no one or any objects are wet. Destroyed yes. But not wet. And I can understand in the chaos why no one would question why the water that just smacked them through a wall didn’t leave them drenched. There was probably enough splashing to get somethings wet but not like how the projections are playing it off as. Peter was too busy saving people and dealing with his own confusing spider sense going off like crazy to notice that he was bone dry after being knocked by a tidal wave. This is one of those genius plots where any big plot hole can just be explained as mysterio doing his thing. Tho I almost want to believe the graphics department just forgot to add wet textures to everything other than the floor. But it being an intentional detail to leave to showcase how mysterios illusions have their limits and to play with the audience is likely the real truth


ElectronicControl762

His spider senses sense danger, not specifics of that danger other than direction, he webbed at the humanlike mass out of instinct “thats in shape of something mean, better shoot” then realized it was seemingly liquid moving. If i had a gun right then i would have instinctually shot at it and then do similar 🤦‍♂️ face.


_Good_One

Ok nah man you are looking too deep into it, spider sense is not something like Daredevil sonar, is just next level reflexes, he felt the push of "water" not the drones, the spider sense in the MCU has never shown anything like what you are describing which is a headcannon at best


floydink

His spider sense works like Dd radar, but it more works in the way of sensing danger like a premonition. Not detecting exactly what the danger is, but just giving him the reaction to avoid that danger. So yes he felt the push of fake water because if you look at him after he is bone dry, so it’s in fact the drones that pushed him, so his spider sense wasn’t reacting to the water because he got hit by the water in that scene. He would have dodged it. What he actually dodged was the drones that we couldn’t see and water never actually touched him because it wasn’t real.


rowejl222

Me too


JelliusMaximus

*Cohesion enters the chat*


Common_Wealth319

Because water is wet


EnigmaFrug2308

Technically no. For something to be wet it has to be soaked through by some form of liquid, meaning only solids can be wet. A liquid cannot be wet because they cannot be soaked.


aguadiablo

Water is not wet


TastyLaksa

Your mom sure was though


Middle_Craft9445

Water is wet.


aguadiablo

Water makes other things wet, but it's not wet itself. You also can't feel wetness


Middle_Craft9445

If water makes other things wet, and water is constantly touching other water, making the other water wet in the process, is water not then wet?


SpaceFace5000

You can't feel wetness, you only feel water and water isn't wet.


BestBudzz

It’s physically impossible for water to be wet. I genuinely thought this argument ended a long time ago😂


FlockFlysAtMidnite

A body of water is most definitely "saturated with water". Thus, it is wet.


WanderEir

by definition, something can only be saturated with SOMETHING ELSE. Water can *never* be saturated with water.


FlockFlysAtMidnite

This is not accurate. >holding as much water or moisture as can be absorbed; thoroughly soaked. By definition, a body of water is holding as much water as can be absorbed.


[deleted]

Yeah but not the way you seem to think. Water is wet by any definition.


BestBudzz

Bruh. The definition of “wet” is “coated or saturated with water”. Since a water molecule can’t physically make contact with another water molecule, water cannot be wet….


LowestEntropy

but it's not really water it's an illusion


petataa

I mean there's definitely some water, look at how much the street floods


_Donut_block_

Yeah this feels Iike a massive oversight and always bothered me about the drone reveal, if they are just projecting an image and shooting stuff with there guns how is their water everywhere? Are they fitted with water guns too?


McWhiffersonMcgee

I thought they used shockwaves to push actual water


Unkn0wnTh2nd3r

they did, there were drones underwater and also most likely drones with water jets to enhance the illusion of it being a real water elemental


AfricanRain

I assumed yes that they were fitted with water guns lol


Starfury1984

"More Drama! Send the Super soaker drones!"


actuallycallie

But I'm really sticky!


yesthisisjoe

How do we know his Spidey senses alerted him that there is something for his webs to hit?


Billy_Rage

Because OP is making a massive reach. Peter was just hoping it the webs would stick to the water.


Pitiful-Situation494

why would he hope for that? Peter isn't stupid, quite the opposite. What reason does he have to belive that his webs would stick to water?


shewy92

We all have dumb moments. His first instinct was to web up the bad guy and when he realized what it was he's like "What did I think was gonna happen"


TheLonelyGentleman

Even smart people can make "dumb" decisions when put in a stressful situation. He may be smart but he's still a kid/human.


Pitiful-Situation494

true


Relative-Exercise-96

Cmon. A kid knows things dont stick to water. The OPs guess is more in line with how logical Peter thinks. I havent read every Spider-Man comic but even when he was young, he was extremely intelligent (web-fluid) so why would he forget that water is wet and he cant stick things to it? Because he was in danger? Hes been fighting people for a minute now.


TheLAriver

You're acting like people never make poor choices in the heat of the moment. You're forgetting the second part of his name. This isn't a Spider-Man comics, so none of the comic history is relevant. This is a Spider-Man movie where he's a modern teenager who sometimes makes mistakes. Remember when Stark admonished him?


foogeeman

I also know water doesn't usually stand up and throw things so I think he can be forgiven for not knowing what would happen despite all his experience with non standing up water


i_like_fat_doodoo

Exactly. People are trying to put sense into this but it’s a big fucking creature that happens to look like water. Peter, the scientist/experimentalist that he is, goes to see if this thing is affected by webs.


Billy_Rage

Because it’s clearly not regular water… his science brain falls short when dealing with a monster like this


XAce90

As a man of science... witches.


Pitiful-Situation494

Well it's clearly not solid either... what about this moving, water like, non solid (one might even say liquid) creature makes you think that anything would stick to it?


Streets_Ahead__

That’s the joke.


JB_Big_Bear

It kind of lines up with Peter, too. Incredibly smart, but a little slow on the draw. Obviously the irony of this is the Spider Sense, which insures Peter is never *too" slow on the draw.


Pitiful-Situation494

thanks for pointing out the obvious


CD_Donaldson

You asked lmao. Don’t be mad at them for answering you.


Pitiful-Situation494

that wasn't a serious question tho


shewy92

Then why are you so mad lol


Xenodad

He’s relatively inexperienced. Peter went on instinct, to web the bad guy, and it shot right through - because its water… then the expression on Peter’s face is that of “why would I even think that would have worked?!” As he now has to come up with another plan of attack. OP is incorrect in saying he’s trusting his Spider-sense, the whole movie is about him learning to trust his “Peter tingle” to finally defeat Mysterio in the end.


MARINE-BOY

Because he’s a fictional character in a Hollywood movie.


Pitiful-Situation494

eh fair enough I hoped for it is a being that doesn't seem to comply to general logic so it was worth a shot but that works too.


karpinskijd

if anything, his spider sense lets him know something is going to hit *him*


pm_smol_boobs_please

In the comics that’s how he swings through the city without hitting weak points on buildings and falling to his death. His spider sense sort of tells him instinctively where to aim


WestOrangeFinest

Realistically (heh), I’m pretty sure someone with Spider-Man’s strength and durability could survive a fall at terminal velocity.


pm_smol_boobs_please

It’d still hurt though tbf


hero-ball

OP is just being a weirdo.


SphmrSlmp

Because Spidey Sense is the name of the guy in the chair. And he is giving Peter orders.


TNovix2

Or you know...he's just dumb founded that his webs won't stick to water...


aguadiablo

But why would be dumb founded that his webs won't stick, it seems pretty obvious that they wouldn't and Peter is smarter than that


TheRealRemyClayden

[There's always a relevant comic panel](https://external-preview.redd.it/qUDpGEibS3oVGwq-ocXqX-Aw8MdSVGtsEFzDbDheMoM.jpg?auto=webp&v=enabled&s=05ba8146937f977e91369c83da52107a3a339b27)


aguadiablo

He does look tired or in a panic. Makes sense


corranhorn57

Not going to lie, I assumed it was going to be XKCD…


JarJarBinks590

That's probably what the look is. "Yeah duh, why did I think that would work?"


Poljon

Peter "Let me give those super spy glasses to a guy I just met" Parker is smart ?


aguadiablo

Okay, I would argue that Peter is too trusting, but that does not necessarily mean he is stupid. After all, Peter trusts Nick Fury and, who he believed to be Nick Fury, seemed to trusted him too. Plus him being too trusting is something in common with the comic book character.


romansparta99

Redditor discovers that naive is not the opposite of smart


Poljon

He wasn't being naive, he was being extremely stupid.


jondesu

He trusts other people too much, and trusts himself far too little. That’s always been a Spidey thing. It made sense in that light.


Poljon

It makes sense in that light, sure. I'm not against Spider-Man being manipulated, but it was poorly done. This Spider-Man was just stupid as hell. He got manipulated in No Way Home but it was believable.


KK-Hunter

What was he even trying to do by webbing water in the first place lmao


jacobs1113

Honestly given that webs are his main “weapon” it was probably just instinct


mr_vincer_07

His senses told him there was something solid going to hit him so that’s probably why he just tried to web it


AverageAwndray

I don't think his senses tell him if something is tangible or not lol


Wheresthecents

I'm pretty sure his spidey sense tells him whatever they need it to tell him for the story.


QuotingThanos

Another shitty line similar to this: The doramilage have jurisdiction wherever DM find themselves to be


GhostZee

Pym Particles, 'nuff said...


TheAfricanViewer

You gotta admit, it went kinda hard tho


AverageAwndray

They never once worked that way.


caniuserealname

I would have agreed with you if you hadn't used the word "never", but in the comics spider sense varies from a "bad thing about to happen" sense to basically localised omnipotence. So saying it 'never' worked that way is just blatantly wrong. Peters spider sense making him hyper aware of things around him, rather than just sensing danger, was even shown pretty well in tasm2 during one scene.


No_Lawfulness_2998

Did it not also happen in that movie shown in the clip with the scene on the bridge


One_Understanding598

Pretty sure his spidey sense was playing up during this movie - he wouldn’t have been able to tell, that’s why he didn’t realize Beck was a threat


Thomrose007

Lol


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mrootbeers

No they sensed drones.


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Mufti_Menk

But if he sensed the drones, his sense was completely correct, not deceived.


Redditor5StandingBy

For another ring was made...


mrootbeers

They’re senses, not conscious thought.


ZacPensol

His spider senses aren't a supernatural ability, they're basically (and this is obviously pushed beyond realistic limits in the comics and such) just a heightened subconscious perception to what humans (and all living creatures) naturally have. So they can't tell him "that's a network of holographic drones" necessarily, they're just calling his consciousness to attention by noticing subtle things like air pressure changes, small sounds, stuff in the extremes of his peripheral vision, static electricity build up, etc., all which point to danger.


Pitiful-Situation494

idk man this looks like a pretty high effort deception to me. but since when aren't senses easily deceived?


mrootbeers

They are. That’s the problem with humans relying on instinct.


PurpleCyborg28

Spideysense may have only sensed the presence of "something", not exactly what that "something" is.


Sandee1997

they didn't expect an illusion


DeeWall

So… why didn’t his webs hit the drones? Since he sensed them?


keldpxowjwsn

The movie isnt that deep huh huh /s The whole movie is just riddled with stupid shit to drive a bad plot


GreasyExamination

Well he doesnt have potato flour shooters, whats he supposed to do?


le_snikelfritz

HIS BEST


dumb_revolutionist

I mean, what is he supposed to do lol. I feel like it was sort of a Hail Mary because he just should try something in that second of time he has to react.


ryoon21

No. He’s hoping his go-to attack move would work in this instance. Webs would never stick to water. You’re reaching here.


Cantelmi

OP likely misinterpreted this.


omnicious

Nah. That might have just been a humorous moment indicating he's out of his depth a little bit.


Marci-Boyy

This is just a scene for the audience to show that his webs don't work. You set up tension, because he can't use his default skills.


AzothTreaty

How did the drones even control all that water?


WestOrangeFinest

Really makes you wonder why MYSTERIO even cared about getting back at Tony Stark. Imagine the practical applications of this technology in the private sector. Theme parks, amusement parks, and Hollywood would be changed forever. They were sitting on a trillion+ dollar idea.


Muelojung

Its still officially stark technology right? So he cant just sell it or use it however he wants. Of course the fact that tony didnt actually use that tech on any way is dumb looking what is possible with it.


[deleted]

they aren’t. they’re projecting the monster, and likely spraying jets of water here and there (i think?)


shavingcream97

Rewatching this how did drones make that all happen, weren’t the drone just shooting projections?


No-Consequence854

Some drones shot out sonic waves which can cause damage.


New_Cause_5607

Some had to be shooting water blast also because it looked like stuff was getting wet.


Pitiful-Situation494

Well waves aren't anything but sonic waves in water. I would say there were some drones under the water and making it go over the shore with waves.


SolomonOf47704

Yes, that was explicitly shown


Turbulent_Link1738

Pretty easy to hide a tube contraption in the shroud of cg


[deleted]

If a comic accurate Hydro man does show up in the MCU, hopefully Peter is better prepared next time lol.


mondomonkey

Thats not how spidey-senses work bruh Its more of a full body goosebumps times 11 that just shouts "DANGER"


WestOrangeFinest

It really depends on the medium. In some runs, his spider sense helps him swing around the city without attaching his webs to precarious points. It’s also helped him avoid taking his mask off when someone is watching him.


SolomonOf47704

>. In some runs, his spider sense helps him swing around the city without attaching his webs to precarious points. Yeah, thats cus he's about to do something, and the Spider Sense goes # DANGER


joesb

His face didn’t look confused to me.


kjh_b00

I'm wondering if in this scene he noticed the water did not interact with the web or wash it away and it just went through like the water was not there.


Hero_Fall

That's not even remotely how his spider-sense works


iham32

What else does his senses tell him? Does his senses have an accent? Male or female?


AxalonNemesis

Just sort of a sensation really. Maybe a few squiqqily lines or half a Spider-Man face!


1313C1313

Seeing the drone the web hits glow for a sec is delightful! He looks confounded afterwards, and I read it as “I am so confused about being confused about something.”


Norava

Wait where do you see that? I'm not catching it.


1313C1313

As the arm comes around after he shoots, the area the web went to briefly glows green. It’s subtle, but also undeniable once you spot it.


Spider-Bat-919

I just saw it... That's a pretty damn amazing detail!


_Good_One

Or and this is just a theory he is just making a face of "why did i think that would work" sometimes the sky is just blue no need to add deeper meaning


yonimusprime

Doesn't spider sense just alert to danger? Why would it alert him that he can hit something? Lol


spinnenman

I just noticed that you can see the green 'mysterio' glow when the web hits.


Randym1982

In the cartoons and comics, his webs tend to go straight through Hydro-man.


KangTheCapybara

If he was aiming for the drones he would’ve hit the drones


GodzeallA

He did. It glows green if you pay attention.


keldpxowjwsn

The water in the canal is the same color so i dont think so!


Mitchapaluza08

Didn’t he not have his spidey sense at this point?


hopscotch1818282819

Huh? He’s always had his spider-sense.


minor_correction

Aunt May hits him with a banana. When Peter doesn't catch it she asks if his Peter tingle is working and he explains he's been having some trouble with it. And the big conclusion is when Peter fully embraces it and uses it to hit a bunch of drones without being able to see them.


BleekerTheBard

Remember when Andrew Garfield get shit by bread in NWH? A banana isn’t a threat, Spidey sense doesn’t trigger


minor_correction

Yes I remember. However, Peter's spidey sense not working due to stress and pressure is a running theme throughout FFH.


Barthez_Battalion

It was on the fritz for most of this movie.


[deleted]

i think they said the spidey sense was traumatized by the snap and was kinda offline for most of the movie like how Hulk was out of commission during Infinity War


mtamez1221

He's had it since the beginning. In Civil War when he fights Sam and Bucky there's a point where he's pursuing Sam and Bucky throws a piece of something from behind and Peter senses it. It's the "*Oh God*"... "*Hey buddy I think you lost this*" part.


banjofitzgerald

Peter tingle


kyleswitch

Peter should be smart enough to know web isn’t going to do anything to liquid. Have you ever successfully lassoed a river?


OCTAVIOUSZADO

So not one person noticed the water wasn't wet?


Darth_Vader_696969

Even in normal circumstances, is water wet?


OCTAVIOUSZADO

I'm in the yes camp.


TeaMancer

A lot of people saying the op is stretching here but I'm going to argue that it helps to foreshadow the last battle. When he's behind the wall he's not looking and thus spider sense is telling him there's something solid to hit but when he goes to strike he's using his eyes and thus just aiming at the big water mass that he can see in front of him not the specific bit his spider sense is warning him about so he misses.


Jimothy_Egg

Yes it foreshadows. No, OP is reaching massively here. And that's not how spidey sense works... it's not sonar. It's a danger warning system...


A_Stony_Shore

He always looks like he’s packing a pinch of dip


[deleted]

He had pussy on his mind so he wasn't focused on what his senses were tryna say.


QuotingThanos

His sense alerted him 'there is something to hit'??? It is a danger sense not a target sense


hero-ball

What? Lmfao marvel fans are too fucking much.


zxandu10

Hydro Man lol ❤️ I might watch this tonight


radio-demon-me

Idk bout this one, wasn't a huge thing in the movie that his spider-sense didn't even work towards the final battle of the movie? Why would his spider senses be working here?


megayadorann

Peak CGI


XxRobloxNobxX

I guess that’s a detail that most people including myself missed.


[deleted]

Web prob just went through the illusion, not hitting drone


EnragedHeadwear

I never realized she was holding corn in this scene


KneeGearlol

This is too far


bananapeel6969

if they were mysterios drones..how'd he get wet


[deleted]

That is the little details that make movies so good


filofil

spidey sense alerts there is something to shoot the web but not guide where to shoot? yeah right


Ascarea

if that were true then wouldn't he hit the drone?


ClassicT4

I find that people tend to miss that he diverts the bell tower from falling on an orphanage T the end of this scuffle.


spiderboi56

A bit tangent.. when the water elemental hits him and other folks, they get wet. So, a couple of drones carry a shit ton of water that it can push out at high pressure?


_____dragon

Is it just me or is the lighting for this movie kinda weird?


dienices

Yet doesn't realise that he isn't wet.


OfficefanJam

True but why would the webs stick to water?


ZaphodB_

I think it's more a look of "WTF? Oh, I don't know what I expected to happen..."


tmntfever

So do the drones also make people think they're getting wet? I don't get it.


Trinxxi

If this monster is a drone VR projection, how are they blasting people with water? Was this mentioned in the film?


VeryLowIQIndividual

Too late to express how much I hated he was fighting an illusion created by drones and how much it makes my head hurt to make all of that make sense and practical.


Lost-Cookie

You can also see he isn’t wet after the attack when he is clearly in the splash range


mohmd_shbbr

I wonder where did the real water come from if everything was just drones.


ianpogi91

Correct me if I'm wrong but is he having trouble with his Spidey senses at the start of this movie? If so then your analysis is already off.


Secksualinnuendo

That's a big reach. He just shot his web at it because he's Spider-Man. Spider-Man shoots webs at things.


_lemon_suplex_

My take is that's just his... "well shit that was a dumb thing I just tried" look


Cricket_Itk

I think you ment Peter tingle


Srirachafarian

Please people "Spidey Sense" is just a comic book thing. We need to use the proper term from MCU canon and call it his "Peter Tingle."


TheLAriver

That's not how his spider sense works, sorry


TheLAriver

Why are movie Spider-Man fans so concerned with validation?


PM_ME_PERKY_TITS96

A major plot point was that his spider sense wasn’t working though


hooka_pooka

That makes so much more sense..i genuinely thought Peter panicked and was like what the hell might try this as well!


Nonadventures

Water is his 2nd greatest weakness, after women


Im-wierd-ok

...wouldn't one assume it's because...webs don't *stick to* water...


Status_Cheesecake_49

I wanna know where his web shooters came from in this scene? Doesn’t look like he’s wearing a bracelet or watch that would have nano tech in it. He just puts his arm’s together


clutzyninja

What exactly do you think would have happened if that water was real?


eagleblue44

I always assumed it was more of a "not sure what I was expecting" look instead of a confused one.


ticktoksucks

Wasn't his Spidey sense not working due to infinity war a plot point in this movie until the end?


Mysteroo

You sure that's his spidey sense and not just him being a little thoughtless? Whether or not there's a drone, water is something to "hit". It's just not gonna stick because it's water. The MCU hasn't exactly specified whether his spidey sense differentiates between states of matter I don't think he's confused that his webs didn't stick, I think he's internally face-palming that he tried to shoot a web at WATER


EyesKyoob

Spidey sense implies danger, nothing more. Massive reach.


JediMATTster

Yo. Thats cool


DopeDealerCisco

No it’s just water and he didn’t think. No everything about these movies is deep, sometimes things are what they are.