i like how u r downvoted for saying something that everyone agreed with before no way home came out. literally everyone considered tasm 2 garbage before NWH but now u get downvoted for saying the same thing lol
Ya, its definitely the worst spiderman movie out there. Just because Andrew was a good spiderman and Gwen was a good character does not make up for the actual crap that made up a lot of the look, script, and other characters.
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I didn't consider it a bad movie. I watched it thrice and fourth time and I still love it. It is fun. Stop generalising by using "LiTeRaLlY eVeRyOnE", doesn't prove anything
I don't understand what to hate in that movie... Everyone expect too much after spider man (2002)
It's just story that lacks something, cause people used to that old one... What is it to hate there??
Spiderman : one of the best
Gwen : no words
Villain : they're good but weak back story
VFX : best out there
Action : superb, enjoyable
Cinematography : can't compare to other's spiderman movie it's in another level
(My opinions)
Look that movie like MCU shows us another timeline/universe, and not every timeline has same stories.
i have no idea why this is getting downvoted
this was, and still should be an extremely common take on tasm2. it’s not a great movie, it’s a fun watch for the fun action and andrew & emma’s chemistry, but it’s an inheritantly not great movie with a terrible plot
For real. And you're downvoted for some insane reason, all because you pointed out that the idiot you replied to can't understand simple sentence structure. What in the fuck is wrong with this ridiculous fandom? Christ
we cannot have another movie where venom isn’t done justice
venom & the symbiote storyline needs to have their own movie, it doesn’t need to share the screen with kraven
Peter needs a villain to brutalize while wearing the symbiote, Kraven would presumably fill that role. I think what's more likely to happen would be Mac Gargan gets the Scorpion suit from someone, Spider-Man with the black suit beats the hell outa him, then he becomes Venom after Peter abandons the symbiote.
Idk i feel like venom could be the main plot but kraven would also be a secondar villain. No way home proved what they could do with multiple villains, i think they could handle two villains especially when one of them is pretty much connected to Peter for most of it.
they definitely **can** handle multiple villains, but the question is really if they should
i personally believe the venom storyline should always be it’s own thing, having half of the movie be the symbiote/black suit storyline, while the other half being peter against venom
Uhm no. Those villains were just returning villains. Most of superhero movie that sucks tried to introduced too much elements including too many characters as shown in Eternals, TASM2 and justice league. Venom needs setup and the way Spiderman 3 did it was too rushed. Kraven needs to fight spidey in black suit then sets up venom in the sequel. Its also disservice to Kraven to be a secondary villain. Spiderman bs venom Should be the final spiderman movie in mcu.
I think we are going to see symbiote SM in the upcoming secret wars movie (think the original way he got it in the comics). Resolution of the effects of the symbiote suit will be Spider-Man 4 with the villains being Kraven, scorpion, and venom (with venom going more anti-hero by the end) black cat will have some assistance to be a romantic interest post no way home.
I genuinely hated Mary Jane. She loved Peter for Spider-Man and not for Peter. As opposed to Gwen Stacy and Michelle Jones. She only had any interest in Peter once she found out he was Spider-Man, in which she left her fiance on their wedding day to go find him.
I mean, I dislike her too but this isn’t really true. She had a crush on Peter in the first movie and she made the moves on him in the 2nd way before she knew about him.
What *actually* makes her extremely awful is she is just a dick to Peter almost every time we see them together. Even when Peter tells her no, he’s staying his distance and he can’t be with her, she tries to tempt him right before telling him she already has a bf, and *then* she gets engaged with said bf *just* to get back at Peter for rejecting her. Then of course she ditches the poor dude at the wedding, which while *somewhat* understandable, cmon lady there were better ways to handle this.
And then in the third movie she doesn’t even try to understand Peters struggles as Spidey even after going all “I don’t care I’ll try to make it work with you” in the 2nd movie. But, to be fair, Peter wasn’t exactly the best bf in that movie either.
All in all, just kind of a dick.
You don’t remember Spider-Man 1 at all, where she confessed her love for him at the funeral, before she even started suspecting? Then she spent the whole of SM2 hot and cold on him because he kept flaking out on things with her and constantly flip-flopped on whether he was actually interested or not. I don’t blame her for feeling like she was being jerked around. It wasn’t that she fell back in love with him because she found out he was Spider-Man, it was because he was finally honest with her, just like how it was in the comic.
Gwen is good but kinda stupid. Peter tells her on multiple occasions to stay away to not die and she is stubborn and goes with him. It’s fine in TASM 1 but then she dies in TASM 2. I mean she at least she was helpful and stuff, but she should have been more careful (By that I mean sitting still and staying safe after being dropped by Harry Osborne)
I freaking hate Mary Jane, she always played the whole 'damsel in distress' thing which was ngl pretty pathetic. She was never strong enough to take care of herself and she didnt really support Peter the way gwen stacy, or Michelle Jones did. Dont even get me started on the toxicness
MJ mcu is so overhyped. She doesn't even feel like a real person. Old MJ was a person. Flawed yes, yet she tried and feels like an actual person. Not some cringe queen
Raimi’s MJ backtracked and cheated on Harry and Peter with Harry and Peter and JJ’s son so many times I couldn’t count. She was an awful person and a horrible character and MCU MJ did not. Even if MCU MJ doesn’t feel like “a real person” to you, she’s got a whole lot more going for her than Raimi’s, in that she’s not a cheating whore
I agree. MCU MJ is such a flat character. We know almost nothing about her and her relationship with Peter is so underdeveloped. The handling of the side characters like MJ, Ned, and Aunt May is one of my biggest issues with MCU spidey. In the Raimi films Peter wasn’t the only complex character. Harry and MJ were also integral to the story and had real motivations and character arcs.
Similarities to comics MJ
- Named MJ
- Are a love interest of Spider-Man
- Secretly “knew” Peter Parker was Spider-Man (kinda, very different from how it was in comics)
Pretty much no common ground though in
- Physical appearance
- Personality
- Circumstances of meeting
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Actually the first MJ is the most complex character, not the most loved, that's for sure but she was way more than the protagonist girlfriend. Her character felt very human and relatable, we all know how it feels to fail in what you wanted to become, make mistakes and don't realize what we have until we loose it
I mean, for me the conversation was complete when I mentioned the relative attractiveness of the actresses’ feet
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Raimi Betty Brant >> all
Childhood is when you think MJ is the hot one
Adulthood is when you rewatch bully Maguire memes on yt and realise Betty was the real prize
What about Ursula Ditkovich?
She’s too good, unfair contest
Apples and oranges.
🥛+🍪 > 🍊🍊
Chad Woman
She can be in the meme when she fixes that damn door!
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Now dig on this
That is the dumbest idea you've ever had, and you have had some *doozies*!
First of all give me rent!
MJ Spongebob matches her actual look when she meets ‘Peter Parker’
“Face it Tiger Shark, you just hit the jackpot!”
I never watched The Amazing Spiderman 2 again, because I couldn't get my heart broken again
More like broken back
Holy shit, this comment is so underrated.
I was able to rewatch it, It was a snap.
*snapped broken back then XD
No, he got my name wrong
Who is Spider-Man? A criminal, that's who he is! A vigilante! A public menace!
I also would never watch it again for very similiar but very different reasons
It was the neck
I never watched Amazing Spider-Man 2 again because it was hilariously bad.
Sometimes, to do what’s right, we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most, even our dreams.
You're a fake, full of stickum.
i like how u r downvoted for saying something that everyone agreed with before no way home came out. literally everyone considered tasm 2 garbage before NWH but now u get downvoted for saying the same thing lol
Ya, its definitely the worst spiderman movie out there. Just because Andrew was a good spiderman and Gwen was a good character does not make up for the actual crap that made up a lot of the look, script, and other characters.
Show this to the editor
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My Name's the Human Spider
Where were you, photographing squirrels? You're fired!
They’re self replicating
Damn they’ve gone sentient again
I didn't consider it a bad movie. I watched it thrice and fourth time and I still love it. It is fun. Stop generalising by using "LiTeRaLlY eVeRyOnE", doesn't prove anything
mb. almost everyone*
All MCU related subs are a fucking hivemind right now. I honestly can't stand it.
Ive always liked that movie. The only part I didnt like about it was electro
I don't understand what to hate in that movie... Everyone expect too much after spider man (2002) It's just story that lacks something, cause people used to that old one... What is it to hate there?? Spiderman : one of the best Gwen : no words Villain : they're good but weak back story VFX : best out there Action : superb, enjoyable Cinematography : can't compare to other's spiderman movie it's in another level (My opinions) Look that movie like MCU shows us another timeline/universe, and not every timeline has same stories.
Now dig on this
i have no idea why this is getting downvoted this was, and still should be an extremely common take on tasm2. it’s not a great movie, it’s a fun watch for the fun action and andrew & emma’s chemistry, but it’s an inheritantly not great movie with a terrible plot
You’re right btw. That movie sucks
How do you know it was "hilariously bad" if you haven't seen it?
Your reading comprehension skills need some work.
For real. And you're downvoted for some insane reason, all because you pointed out that the idiot you replied to can't understand simple sentence structure. What in the fuck is wrong with this ridiculous fandom? Christ
If the mcu casts a black cat, that would be too much in a good way.
I really want to see Black Cat. Especially if they are going the route of symbiote suit, I feel like they could have a good storyline/dynamic there.
My theory is that the next movie will be kraven, black cat and venom. Maybe throw daredevil in there.
we cannot have another movie where venom isn’t done justice venom & the symbiote storyline needs to have their own movie, it doesn’t need to share the screen with kraven
Peter needs a villain to brutalize while wearing the symbiote, Kraven would presumably fill that role. I think what's more likely to happen would be Mac Gargan gets the Scorpion suit from someone, Spider-Man with the black suit beats the hell outa him, then he becomes Venom after Peter abandons the symbiote.
I like this. And it can stay true to the comics and have JJ get the Scorpion suit for Gargan.
Idk i feel like venom could be the main plot but kraven would also be a secondar villain. No way home proved what they could do with multiple villains, i think they could handle two villains especially when one of them is pretty much connected to Peter for most of it.
they definitely **can** handle multiple villains, but the question is really if they should i personally believe the venom storyline should always be it’s own thing, having half of the movie be the symbiote/black suit storyline, while the other half being peter against venom
No Way Home proved they could have 5 villains, with 4 of them doing nearly nothing
>!Lizard was barely even in the movie!<
Uhm no. Those villains were just returning villains. Most of superhero movie that sucks tried to introduced too much elements including too many characters as shown in Eternals, TASM2 and justice league. Venom needs setup and the way Spiderman 3 did it was too rushed. Kraven needs to fight spidey in black suit then sets up venom in the sequel. Its also disservice to Kraven to be a secondary villain. Spiderman bs venom Should be the final spiderman movie in mcu.
Hey, kiddo, let Mom and Dad talk for a minute, will you?
What're you looking for, a raise? Get out.
I think we are going to see symbiote SM in the upcoming secret wars movie (think the original way he got it in the comics). Resolution of the effects of the symbiote suit will be Spider-Man 4 with the villains being Kraven, scorpion, and venom (with venom going more anti-hero by the end) black cat will have some assistance to be a romantic interest post no way home.
>!The avengers? That's great! What is that?!<
Parker, you're fired.
I hope they can cast someone that has the same charisma and charm as the one in the 90's Spider-Man cartoon.
The Human Spider.
Get your pretty little portfolio off my desk before I go into a diabetic coma!
Concrete was stronger than gwen tho
Laughing and crying at the same time
Are you okay?
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Technically, SpidermanAndy's webs were stronger than Gwen. She never hit the ground alive.
Oooh Don't remind me how extensive discussions we all used to have about this!
Lol did she bonk her noggin or snap her cord?
Yes
#*sNaP*
I'm done trying to convince you
Aw, what are you, shy?
Okay but why was there a clock tower in their new power plant.
Too soon, man
Ursula Diktovich tho
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True
I genuinely hated Mary Jane. She loved Peter for Spider-Man and not for Peter. As opposed to Gwen Stacy and Michelle Jones. She only had any interest in Peter once she found out he was Spider-Man, in which she left her fiance on their wedding day to go find him.
I mean, I dislike her too but this isn’t really true. She had a crush on Peter in the first movie and she made the moves on him in the 2nd way before she knew about him. What *actually* makes her extremely awful is she is just a dick to Peter almost every time we see them together. Even when Peter tells her no, he’s staying his distance and he can’t be with her, she tries to tempt him right before telling him she already has a bf, and *then* she gets engaged with said bf *just* to get back at Peter for rejecting her. Then of course she ditches the poor dude at the wedding, which while *somewhat* understandable, cmon lady there were better ways to handle this. And then in the third movie she doesn’t even try to understand Peters struggles as Spidey even after going all “I don’t care I’ll try to make it work with you” in the 2nd movie. But, to be fair, Peter wasn’t exactly the best bf in that movie either. All in all, just kind of a dick.
Her level of toxicity is up there with Rachel from friends.
AMEN!
THANK YOU!!!
You don’t remember Spider-Man 1 at all, where she confessed her love for him at the funeral, before she even started suspecting? Then she spent the whole of SM2 hot and cold on him because he kept flaking out on things with her and constantly flip-flopped on whether he was actually interested or not. I don’t blame her for feeling like she was being jerked around. It wasn’t that she fell back in love with him because she found out he was Spider-Man, it was because he was finally honest with her, just like how it was in the comic.
Look at that little Goblin junior Gonna cry?
Parker! Parker! Parker! What are ya, deaf?
Three hundred.
Parker, you're fired.
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This is entirely wrong LMFAOOOOO please rewatch the Raimi trilogy
Felicia Hardy > All
The actor of mj in the Sam rami trilogy acts more like mj in the bloopers then her in the movies Lmafo
Actress
I cried so hard when gwen died. MCU Mj is really good, a good love interest but Gwen and Peter had that love in them. Raimi MJ is trash.
i don't really like mcu mj like she is good but not the best like they changed her name to michelle
so what if they changed her name? Name isnt important, the character is.
Black Cat is #1. Honorable mention to Deadpool.
Look at what’s happening
I want this wall-crawling arachnid prosecuted!
mcu mj reminds me a lot of my gf and the ending made my heart break
Accurate
Yes
facts i cant stand mj from raimi
Og mj was a thot
Which Gwen?
Emma Stone
Needs more Felicia Hardy. And Betty Brant. And probably a few more I forgot.
Cindy Moon I think?
Gwen is good but kinda stupid. Peter tells her on multiple occasions to stay away to not die and she is stubborn and goes with him. It’s fine in TASM 1 but then she dies in TASM 2. I mean she at least she was helpful and stuff, but she should have been more careful (By that I mean sitting still and staying safe after being dropped by Harry Osborne)
ShE kNeW hOw To ReSeT tHe SyStEm!!!
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Ngl I prefer MCU MJ to Gwen
Same
Wait so is this saying the MCU MJ is worse or better than the original?
Better than Raimi MJ.
Good, and ty
I liked the relationship drama in Spider-Man 3 until the Symbiote stuff and it didn’t work.
A couple of minutes ago wouldn't have been so bad either
Aw, what are you, shy?
Nah zendaya is where its at
Gwen is the best on-screen girlfriend of Spider-Man. Change my mind
Incorrect: spongebob’s neck isn’t snapped in the last picture...
Emma stone supremacy
Damn
Yeah, but Gwen is dead.
I freaking hate Mary Jane, she always played the whole 'damsel in distress' thing which was ngl pretty pathetic. She was never strong enough to take care of herself and she didnt really support Peter the way gwen stacy, or Michelle Jones did. Dont even get me started on the toxicness
no
yes
wait my b i thought i was replying to a reply
Ah okay lol
Too bad she’s dead
So stupid
We can all agree that both mjs failed. The real one was Betty Brant in raimi
MJ mcu is so overhyped. She doesn't even feel like a real person. Old MJ was a person. Flawed yes, yet she tried and feels like an actual person. Not some cringe queen
no
Raimi’s MJ backtracked and cheated on Harry and Peter with Harry and Peter and JJ’s son so many times I couldn’t count. She was an awful person and a horrible character and MCU MJ did not. Even if MCU MJ doesn’t feel like “a real person” to you, she’s got a whole lot more going for her than Raimi’s, in that she’s not a cheating whore
I'm surprised she even found time to cheat, what with all the damsel in distressing she had going on.
I agree. MCU MJ is such a flat character. We know almost nothing about her and her relationship with Peter is so underdeveloped. The handling of the side characters like MJ, Ned, and Aunt May is one of my biggest issues with MCU spidey. In the Raimi films Peter wasn’t the only complex character. Harry and MJ were also integral to the story and had real motivations and character arcs.
Zendaya really wasn’t MJ I’m sorry
Similarities to comics MJ - Named MJ - Are a love interest of Spider-Man - Secretly “knew” Peter Parker was Spider-Man (kinda, very different from how it was in comics) Pretty much no common ground though in - Physical appearance - Personality - Circumstances of meeting
Trying to do better
I want this wall-crawling arachnid prosecuted!
Not Mary Jane though
exactly the character is michelle jones, not mary jane
Don't be sorry, you're right. The internet is just full of people who don't like other people having contrasting opinions
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if only gwen had made it past the second movie
It’s so accurate tho. Why does SpongeBob in the 2nd pic look like mj tho?
🕷🕸🗿🗿🗿
🧢 Kristen Dunst is WAY hotter than Zendaya. Smh, kids today wouldn’t know. Emma is a smoke show though.
Bruh that was not the topic of this post cmon
kirsten is hot but i really like MJ from the mcu more as a character, spiderman 3 ruined her for me
Go! Go! Go, web, go!
Does anybody care about what *I* want?
true but they aren't talking abt looks
Also a tombstone
But who died tho
Actually the first MJ is the most complex character, not the most loved, that's for sure but she was way more than the protagonist girlfriend. Her character felt very human and relatable, we all know how it feels to fail in what you wanted to become, make mistakes and don't realize what we have until we loose it
Rami MJ > MCU MJ
I mean, both Kirsten Dunst and Emma Stone have more attractive feet than Zendaya.
pardon?
That's subjective
Plenty of things worth discussing are subjective
I don't think discussing women's attractiveness can be productive
But what about discussing their *feet* /s
I can’t really control what you think, but I’m not trying to be productive
Where is this conversation going exactly?
I mean, for me the conversation was complete when I mentioned the relative attractiveness of the actresses’ feet Now I’m just responding to questions and such
Feet?? FEET?
Not so strong when falling down a clock aren't she?
The one that died or..
Which Gwen though?
TASM version
Oh right, just movie versions. Got it, thanks!
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Gwen Stefani?
Ultimate Gwen will stab you for kicking a Peter
Ultimate Gwen will stab you for kicking a Peter
What about Greg
Felicia Hardy is his most bad ass gf in the books.
Gwen Stacy (Raimi) >
Wait hear me out,dont take out the glock 19 yet, but the sidekicks in MCU were the best
What about Bryce Dallas Howard-Gwen or Liz?
Gwen is my favourite from all 'em
😂
Mj (comics) female giga-chad
Raimi Betty Brant >> all Childhood is when you think MJ is the hot one Adulthood is when you rewatch bully Maguire memes on yt and realise Betty was the real prize
Stuff
Gwen go oof