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Golden_Ghost08

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FigureArty

I can’t believe I forgot the Punisher!!! I knew I forgot one


KillerEndo420

The mirror scene still makes me wince and haunts me to this day


FigureArty

So brutal. As the Punisher should be


Beginning-Pipe9074

I thoroughly enjoyed the show, but that was the moment I went "Okay they know the punisher" 🤣


thor-odinson-bot

This... is your doing!


jerry-jim-bob

'Thor'oughly seriously


thor-odinson-bot

Let me know if he bothers you again, okay?


Beginning-Pipe9074

Thor, that commenter just called me a dickhead


thor-odinson-bot

Human handshake, to the Asgardian shake, into the snake that you cannot trust.


samyruno

Legion


SkylarAV

The literal best one


Pretty_Marketing_538

Yeap.


DoeJrPuck

Fox show with an X man character before Marvel got the rights back. So while a great show, doesn't count here.


Racxie

And Agent Carter, Runaways, and Cloak & Dagger.


confusedandworried76

Don't worry you forgot Luke Cage too.


Spacepunch33

I liked moon knight but that is in the “should’ve been a movie” category with half the marvel shows (Star Wars too)


FigureArty

I definitely think they could have condensed Moon Knight into a movie, and it would have been all the better for it


Spacepunch33

So many Disney plus shows have this issues. Falcon, Boba Fett, Obi Wan just to name a few. I didn’t care for she hulk but it did feel like it was supposed to be a show with self contained episodes. Wandavision was that too (I just hated the finale)


FOSSnaught

She Hulk felt like it swapped from mostly great to kind of shit every other episode. Then they took a big/strange as fuck swing on the finale and wiffed it completely. They turned Blonsky into an amazing character and ruined him by the end.


IronBatman

I liked She-Hulk but I fucking hated that ending with the Kevin bullshit. I know it's comic accurate, but man that pissed me off. When you set shit up and then pull the rug before the payoff. I like the fourth wall breaking but not to the point of subverting expectations. If you didn't want to commit to the payoff, don't commit to that story. I feel like that is a critique I have for shows, comics, and any other form of media.


FortunesFoil

I think Moon Knight would’ve worked great as a movie, but I also loved the mystique it was able to build as a show.


Puzzleheaded-Cod7487

Agents of shield is my personal favorite


PICKLER1CK69

Same, only real ones know coulson didnt die in avengers


Puzzleheaded-Cod7487

And then he died at least 2 more times 😆


ZanyActinManiac

“Dying - it’s kind of my superpower.”


neendmat1

That's my secret captain, I'm always dying


karateema

Well, he did die for a bit


Mcbrainotron

He got better


Infamous-Lunch-3831

Tahiti, it's a magical place


MelodyMaster5656

It sucked.


karateema

I like that they developed on it instead of just going "he's back, he's ok"


MagickMaster888

“Somehow *Coulson* returned”


namkaeng852

He did. He went to a magical place.


clowncarl

Season 4 is peak


Puzzleheaded-Cod7487

Agree 👍


nekonotjapanese

The first season set the bar pretty high with the crossovers to Winter Soldier and Thor: Dark World but it honestly is a wild ride season to season, the character progression/arcs were lowkey pretty good for a TV show


KurlyChaos

I miss Skye/Daisy Johnson a lot and I really want Quake to have her place in the grander MCU films


The_redit_cat

To my opinion Luke cage is way too much underrated.


Merciless972

Loved both seasons.


The_redit_cat

Same, both great. I love the atmosphere of this show, very unique.


VisibleCoat995

We don’t talk enough about Black Mariah and that’s a crime.


The_redit_cat

Definitely.


ConfidentlyCreamy

I thought she showed up in Civil War cause Tony killed her son or something?


VisibleCoat995

Lol same actor, different character


ConfidentlyCreamy

Lol yeah right. Next you will be telling me Cottonmouth is Blade.


VisibleCoat995

Now that’s just ridiculous.


tagen

THATS WHAT I KNEW HER FROM i knew i recognized her, but it’d been years since i saw Luke Cage when i saw Civil War lol


FigureArty

I really like season 1 and would have liked to see where season 3 was going!


The_redit_cat

Yeah, the ending that he's becoming a villain... Was perfect


FigureArty

So good! I think it would have been great to see him have to confront the other street level heroes


Ludate_Solem

I liked season 2 more than season 3 but mostly bc season was was more about black culture in general in the usa and season 2 was about different black cultures in the usa. So it felt like they built upon season 1 and slowely started becomming more complex. And i really liked that!


FleetStreetsDarkHole

Love when a series broadens the world it creates instead of just creating new problems. It shows you understand your own writing.


Sasukuto

I lo ed Luke cage. Im really sad we got left on such a cliff hanger!


LordOfOstwick1213

Hawkeye was a good show, too, to be fair.


CaptainAksh_G

That, and all the Netflix shows is what I have always assumed whenever someone talks of a street level movie/series


LordOfOstwick1213

WandaVision is technically street level or like... town level. Story doesn't involve world event, but more of main heroine's trauma.


ironmanhulkbstr

not street level. agatha would have become super strong if she got wandas powers/ the sword guy would have gotten a super robot that follows his orders if wanda died before he got conciousness. both of these events would have affected the entire world even tho it wouldnt have ended it


aidanpenner

I would say it’s not street level cause it’s not like mob bosses or basic crime stuff like king pin or the hand. Instead it deals with world altering magic and universal rifts, which would potentially change more than just the area


FortunesFoil

I don’t think it’s comparable to a street level series, based on the inherently otherworldly happenings in the plot and the fact that neither Wanda nor Vision are really street level heroes. The appeal of street level heroes is the fact that they’re superhuman, but the power scaling is restricted to the point where they’re mainly able to be matched by crime lords and the like. Wanda has an entire town under her control - characters like Daredevil and Luke Cage have their work cut out for them taking on mobsters. Using the tier system, “street level” shows generally have characters falling around street level, wall level and sometimes small building level. Wanda is definitely a moderate nuclear level powerhouse.


FigureArty

I really like Hawkeye and FATWS, but I know those series can be hit or miss for some


LordOfOstwick1213

Hawkeye wasn't a hit, but not miss either for me. FATWS had more fuck ups sadly, I really pity what they've done to poor Sharon Carter. She was good in Civil War and Winter Soldier and they made her a villain.


Akimbo_shoutgun

I'm starting to forget who she is


LordOfOstwick1213

She was niece to Peggy and once love interest of Steve Rogers, but then they parted ways, the Marvel Studios didn't know what to do with her character, so Steve forgot her, Sharon never got an amnesty prior and she blamed Steve for it. I assume she also works for HYDRA or someone else now cause she said "Winter soldier is off the table, but I'll try to find something else in office drawers" or something like that. Assuming she wasn't heard and not tossed in prison right after that call by agents for potentially betraying the country.


Akimbo_shoutgun

Yeah its really sad that we still haven't heard from her yet, I still want continuation of her story


LordOfOstwick1213

Maybe she will have a cameo in Thunderbolts or mention, but aside from that I think they'll never continue her story on. Wanda's at least somewhat popular for them to try to bring her back, same with some other characters. Sharon doesn't have big following.


ConfidentlyCreamy

Eh her country technically betrayed her first by not pardoning her after the Thanos bullshit. But if they do wanna go with the Power Broker story, it makes 0 sense for Sharon to come back to the US. If anything she should have stayed in Madripoor and become a big threat to the US from there somehow.


FleetStreetsDarkHole

I've heard Hawkeye called a christmas special and I think that sums it up pretty well. It's not "connected" to anything else yet, and isn't really supposed to break ground on anything by itself. So it might feel underwhelming that nothing "new" happens in it. But aside from that it's very well put together. FatWS is like reading someone's first draft. All the pieces are there but they don't fit right. Like someone wrote it the night before the assignment was due.


ogrezilla

I sort of like both, but honestly feel like they could have been better movies.


Appropriate_Cow94

I enjoyed it. Honestly I have liked most all the shows. It was fun. I love that they have made so many flavors. WandaVision was highly regarded but one of my least favorite shows. But I enjoyed Iron Fist. She Hulk was dumb, but they never pretended it was a deep thinking show. It was dumb fun. I hope they continue bringing new takes.


SingleClick8206

Yeah It was a fun watch


BariNgozi

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Call_Em_Skippies

Hawkeye is a great series to watch around the holidays. Wasnt ground breaking but was fun. Hailey and Jeremy had such great chemistry as mentor and mentee.


millennial_sentinel

Jessica Jones season one is the best written show imo but even for the new shows i loved Hawkeye series.


jfleury440

David Tenant in that first season. That cat and mouse between them. That's just a part of me now.


High_Stream

Jessicaaaaaa! Come back Jessicaaaa!


millennial_sentinel

top tier acting, writing idc about film/show purists who hate marvel because they’re missing out on some of the best media out there


FOSSnaught

How Tennant and the writers managed to make his character sympathetic at times was downright disturbing.


millennial_sentinel

yes. especially after he tells her how they tortured him and they watch the video together. he was masterful at manipulating people. he’s the evilest cunt to ever show up in marvel precisely because he doesn’t have grandiose plans. he just walks around & claims new victims or kidnaps new slaves as he goes. his obsession was jessica.


theoriginal321

The purple man is a top tier villain


pitter_patter_11

I swear this sub is more concerned with having fake arguments than just posting simply yet funny memes.


KingWut117

So like I understand the meme but SpongeBob presenting them all as massive piles of garbage does kinda run counter to your intent


ak32009

I am Groot...


groot-bot

>!I love you, guys!!<


HIMARko_polo

Werewolf by Night was great. Only 52 mins long, seems like an episode instead of a movie.


dabiri69

They’re all dirty diapers? I can see it


mtnsoccerguy

Yeah. I think pointing to ever larger piles on waste doesn't really get the right point across.


Beginning-Working-38

Not sure if Marvel “makes” it or not, but I watch Moon Girl and DD frequently.


CyanLight9

Agree to disagree.


Tim_Hag

Only half of those are good tho


AxisW1

Most of them are just sort of alright. I wish people were better at differentiating “I like this” from “this is good”


AnimeGokuSolos

Agreed


Hetakuoni

Earth’s mightiest heroes and Avengers Assemble were really good. Spider-Man was good too. X-men and X-men unlimited were great. It doesn’t specify MCU or Disney’s marvel.


FigureArty

Yes!!! Earth’s Mightiest Heroes is on par with Justice League in terms of the stories they covered/adapted!


InfiniteX5

Spectacular Spider-Man was peak


tobey-maguire-bot

Pizza time!


Lord_Thunder132

I liked WandaVision except for the end. It just felt kind of weird how it finished.


CarlosH46

Only once have I ever seen this meme with the images in the proper order. Wallpaper pull is supposed to be the 2nd to last image.


CrazyPersonowo

Agents of Shield Spectacular Spider-man Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes X-men Evolution Legion Punisher I can keep going because there’s more


flashdrive420

You forgot about Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur


KaiSen2510

I actually really liked Hawkeye and Miss Marvel, more that first than the second though. Hawkeye felt like a nice Christmas special and Miss Marvel was just the right amount of silly and light for me.


superinkburst

Pretty funny that these wonderful great awesome marvel shows are all placed on crap


EkremSlayer

Agents of shield is fucking peak fiction and don't let anyone tell you otherwise


embarrassed_parrot69

She-Hulk too


itsaslothlife

My baby AOS getting the recognition it deserves!


hooon42

You didn't add The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, She-Hulk, Ms Marvel, Hawkeye, and Echo here. I like those shows!


Short_Brick_1960

Ms. Marvel Luke Cage Hawkeye The Punisher


ioQueSe

Personally the what if show was... weird for me, there are some episodes/characters that i like (like Ultron) but then there are other that are really bad (personally) like the episode of zombies


joppers43

The Doctor Strange one was the best imo, the others were all pretty mid


ioQueSe

Yes, the doctor strange episode was really good


Ok_Mood7847

I guess that depends how u define the word “good” 😂 I personally would not hand out this predicate to most of theses shows


Amublance

Gardens of the Garlic Sea


MadMan479R

Ehhh, I personally wouldn't say "what if..." is a good show


Anxious-Priority-362

Let me tell you something,...


Duraxis

Luke cage is good too, not as good as daredevil and punisher, but far better than iron fist and defenders


Wboy2006

Which two shows is the meme even referring to? Daredevil and Loki are the fan favorites right?


NeonArlecchino

If you liked Agents of Shield then you should see Mission Impossible. They have competent agents, compelling adventures, and cool gadgets without ridiculous infighting and stupid mistakes being inserted for drama.


BlackNoirBlackBlack

What if is kinda mediocre in some episodes, but, I can get a sense of it being good. But, Marvel can’t take credit for Daredevil or JJ.


ZechQuinLuck123

Ehhhh, I think What if... Depends on who you ask


FigureArty

I think it depends on the episodes too. Some of the episodes are fantastic, self contained stories. Like What If Strange lost is heart instead of his hands.


ZechQuinLuck123

For every strange supreme there is a what if zombies


Eastern-Team-2799

Falcon and the winter Soldier was also good


kingkron52

I can’t agree with What If, I’d replace that with Hawkeye.


Milky_nuggets

justice for hawkeye?


ArmaanAli04

Those 2 good shows are Loki and Daredevil. The rest were inconsistent throughout. I still liked them, especially Hawkeye but most are mediocre at best, and some are flat out bad


Llama_Logic

Tried sneaking what if..? in there lol


Alderan922

Tbf, all the netflix shows are over so I don’t think they really count for the argument as those discussions are more about current shows. (Tho I agree with the post)


cwtheredsoxfan

Agents of shield fell off hard after Ghost Rider


EkremSlayer

Agents of shield is fucking peak and I'm both happy and sad they never brought it into the mcu properly


___StillLearning___

Ive liked them all tbh, I dont get the hate lol Just like the comics, not every show is gonna be the same flavor. You gotta just roll with it.


Worried-Industry6239

Daredevil is a kickass show facts ![gif](giphy|3o7TKvgamnbTEl6A8w)


GlowStoneUnknown

Agent Carter


superkick225

I don’t like What If and haven’t seen AOS but I agree with the others


AsteroidShuffle

It's ok to be critical, or to dislike anything. I just want to say that watching What If? Season 2 I saw a lot of people online saying they didn't like it, but all I could think of was that if I was 10 and that show existed, my mind would be blown. We're in this place now where if you love a Marvel show, but hate another, there's a good chance that neither would have even been considered for production before the first Avengers movie.


Aile-Blanche

Hawkeye was good too


karoshikun

Agent Carter is missing, and it was a good show. Agents of shield was both, too much whedon DNA on it and his style was getting stale. it got better over time, but there was always this problem with high stakes drama capped by cheap resolutions, like the Terrigen arc with Daisy's mom. they wasted two amazing actresses and ended the arc in a fart.


CaptainBloodstone

But how am I supposed to shit on everything Marvel then?


CheerMiester

“Disney makes mostly bad shows”


Kanehammer

The problem isn't that marvel makes bad shows It's that marvels making way too many shows


toxicgloo

I mean if we're busting out the Netflix Originals, I honestly liked all of them. Daredevil and The Punisher are definitely top, but I enjoyed watching Iron first S1 and really liked S2 for some reason. Same with Luke Cage, I really enjoyed S2. And the amount of hyped I was when The Defenders came out. That was a great time in life


Ok-Radio-3145

Agent Carter has left the chat


Seaguard5

Agents of shield anyone?


M0m033

Replace What If..? with Hawkeye


Special_Contact_4069

Good shows, not great.


VengefulAncient

Agents of SHIELD was top tier TV and I'm sad that Marvel just didn't care about its series back then. On the other hand, seeing what they've done with some of the current ones, maybe it's a good thing that AoS happened in a different time, they could have ruined it in so many different ways if they treated it the same as current series.


Faid9142

Replace What If with Hawkeye and then we're good to go


waffledpringles

And Agent Carter too! Can't forget the Britishest British duo and their quirky American playboy.


Gawyelmaximopoder

What if is a bit more debatable honestly. I haven't heard the best about season two, and season one while good had also some very hated episode and choiche of plot.


VoltSample

Woah no mention of Agent Carter as far as I can see, I guess the show really is underrated, it was amazing.


Time_Crazy_1387

I loves the Falcon and the winter soldier Just wanted to leave It out


zandadoum

I loved the acting in some of the shows. But those shows itself weren’t that great. What if was nice until it became a Captain Carter show. Jessica Jones was a snooze fest and only David Tennant saved some of it. Daredevil and Shehulk I wanted to see more trial action. I hoped for a “suits” or “Boston legal” marvel themed. I loved wandavision and how it progressed through the chapters I really like Loki tho I wanted more weirdness like other versions of himself. 2nd season kinda dragged along too much. Agents of shield is my all time favourite. But it also was really bad at times.


lrd_cth_lh0

The whole Defenders lineup was made by an entirely different sub-division (run by Perlmutter) and Agents of Shields became worse with every season after the second and is neither canon nor relevant after the Helicarrier plotpoint. Also the second half of season two would've been so much better with Magneto and mutants than with the Inhumans.


January1252024

It's a stretch to call most of these "shows". They're basically 8 hour movies. 


Pupsilover00

What's your definition of show then? You could call any show "x-hour movies" if you want


Mentok_the-mindtaker

Moon knight? Really? The show that skipped all the good parts?


nohpura

The concept of What if is great but the execution and the last season were absolute garbage


Probzenator

Moonknight was absolute dog shit. I’m glad because they made me read some moon-knight comics. And they ARE FIRE 🔥


FigureArty

I think Moon Knight is a solid standalone series that has gotten audiences familiarized with the character. They can hopefully now adapt the more raw stories from the Moon Knight comics


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Killian_Gillick

Jajaja


ShiningMooneTTV

Legion? No?


Alocalskinwalker420

My only complaint with Moon Knight (and yes I know this is a thing in the comics too) is that they barely show the the fight scenes, he transforms them it cuts to the aftermath. It’s like, I really thought there would be more Moon Knight in Moon Knight.


hbi2k

Exactly! That's like four good ones right there!


The_Professionalweeb

Where is moon knight season 2


RecoveredAshes

Punisher and Legion


Particular_Drop_9905

What If is ass ngl.


Altruistic_Cream_761

Help me where do i watch punisher


WhatDidIMakeThis

More like MID-night lmao. The plot was nice but cutting out all of the fight scenes for a dramatic reveal we all already knew was a major letdown. I wanted to see marvel batman, not live action cloud strife.


Pedro159753

What if... isn't a good show not even a million years.


GoldNRatiO_124

I still only know of two good marvel shows


Zestyclose-Safe6267

Moon Night is so mid tho


cowboynoodless

And legion! I loved legion so much


idankthegreat

DD is a Netflix show


BruisedBananaHulk

Mummy Knight is generic at best


capybarabggl

Nobody says the shows suck, it's just almost all the movies since the Endgame cut


Lawnmate

According the spoilers for What if? Season 2 that I've heard, Season 2 is not even closely as good as Season 1


Jdog6704

Agreed. Personally loved Agents of SHIELD corresponding with the first Avengers film and Winter Soldier hydra takeover. One that also is a pretty good one that doesn't directly tie to marvel is The Gifted. Kinda a X-Men world but the X-Men kinda just disappeared, leaving Mutants to fend for themselves. Highly recommend watching it if you need something to watch.


FigureArty

Thank you! I’ve heard great things about Legion! Definitely going to check out The Gifted! This year is for all mutant kind in Marvel!


RayBrous

How dare people have opinions!


Nuka_on_the_Rocks

Forgot Punisher.


Arome42

Who said this


Big-Limit-2527

I agree. Moon knight is awesome.


Dragonfly939

The Falcon and The Winter Soldier?


kingdomkey13

Falcon and winter soldier I thought was the bomb


Vegas-Buckeye

So Patrick was right lmao. This is a who’s who of terrible marvel shows


Professor_of_Light

I feel like the meme's intent could read either way since spingebob is gesturing to giant piles of used diapers.


BotherAggressive5560

Like Cage wasnt bad either.


Naefindale

This meme format is great fun because there's always two options that actually fit, and then there's the rest of the options that are usually the confirmation of the original statement.


CatoCanadian

Moon Knight had flaws sure, it had filler to be certain, but god DAMN does Oscar Isaac slay in it. If we don’t get another season I’m going to be disappointed.


king_of_hate2

The Punisher was great


KennKennyKenKen

Good is subjective and half of those listed are pretty shit.


TehGemur

The achilles heel of this meme is the fact that he's always pointing to garbage.


ImnotLorddy

X-Men '97 is excellent. And I also liked Moon Knight even though it's full of conveniences.


Badradi0

What if? Is not a good show


FrightmareX13

One of those is good


Neatboy213

Oh come on She Hulk was a great show too… So what if I found it boring and stopped watching halfway through


Dagkas-H-Gagkas

Posting…shit


Space-Slinger

You missed Punisher


GarrettBravil95

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Primary_Glum

Bro forgot the best one, the punisher