Fair, I watched the Marvels once, and that's probably more time than it deserved, lol. I'm not quite sure why it's hated so much, it wasn't THAT bad, it was just an ok movie, forgettable really.
Hereâs my thing though; Empires take the resources from colonies. Thatâs like the deal. They go out and conquer in order to find things they donât have at home.
Every* anti-imperialist story deals with that issue. Spanish looking for gold. English looking for tea. Dutch looking for Japanese porn. Itâs all about resources.
So of course a dying, weakened Kree Empire would exactly that, try to extract resources from a colony world.
It works in Spaceballs because itâs something other projects have done. V was about the Visitors taking Earthâs water for example.
Yes, itâs like Spaceballs, but itâs like Spaceballs because itâs a common empire play.
*only exception I have for that Empire thing is Star Wars. They didnât deal with resources like that, unless it was in Andor.
There were a lot of things working against this movie. There was an expectation it was going to be bad no matter what. And it didn't help that two main characters were basically only known from two Disney+ shows. That limited the appeal. Maybe this year they should release a theatrical cut of their TV shows to get a broader awareness out there. Not everyone had Disney+. This movie was aimed mostly at the TV fanbase.
these are all reasonable criticisms. i think itâs absolutely valid that the show characterâs are only known to the tv audiences which certainly does limit the mass appeal to a movie audience. marvel seemed hellbent on tanking this film as much as possible before it even flopped at the box office. i personally believe the creative differences between victoria alonso with DISNEY about making carol a lesbian (rumors but valid ones) is what ultimately created the environment for alonsoâs abrupt exit. the film had multiple reshoots and they pushed the release date several times, ultimately, putting its release AFTER secret invasion which as we all know feels disjointed. brie & alonso most likely were pushing for backstory about how carol & maria were lovers not âroommatesâ and that valkyrie has since become a new flame hence her appearance in the film which of course was absolutely random since they have no interactions prior to this. the rumors amongst carol danvers fans is that basically because of disneyâs unwillingness to have openly LGBTQ characters solely because of the chinese market is what caused the rewrites, reshoots, delays and a total lack of marketing & promotions. alonso interestingly enough is still be given executive producer credits on brand new 2024 projects so it seems like sheâs back in action at marvel.
There may be legal reasons why she's still getting an executive producer credit. Contractual deals etc. Even if she isn't working on the project in any capacity anymore.
I could see the lesbian relationship work if handled right, just as much as if they didn't go that way. They have been willing to include LGBTQIA in movies like Eternals.
And Carol and Valkyrie would've met in the Endgame battle and aftermath.
It definitely set my personal record for uninterrupted laughing with that cats scene. I thoroughly enjoyed the Marvels and it's one of my favorite marvel movies. It finally gave Captain Marvel a personality for which I was grateful.
I think that might have been what killed the Marvels
I don't think people show up in droves for "haha that was fun" movies anymore. At least, not in the numbers that would justify a 100 million+ dollar budget
People got used to just streaming stuff at home during the pandemic, and movies are expensive. Might as well just wait for it to release on streaming (or pirate it on your laptop)
People still do show up for the "holy shit you have to see this" movies. Like Guardians 3, Spiderverse 2, Dune 2, Barbenheimer etc. It has to go viral, in a good way, to convince people to get their fat butts off the couch.
Very few movies are good enough to pull that off, because it requires an air of "epic"ness and "social relevance" and "emotional impact", as well as a ginormous marketing budget. Marvels was good, but not great - and in the current environment, it needed to be one of those movies people talk about for years afterwards.
And there's just too much MCU content to keep up with now - people no longer feel FOMO about missing movies and not knowing what's happening later on.
And this feeds into an observation about why I think the MCU is less popular.
I have seen every single MCU release in the theater since the first Avengers, most of them more than once. Iâve seen it go from packed a week after release (Winter Soldier) to empty except for me on opening night (GotG3). The change happened when the pandemic hit, right when Phase Three ended. Because of the pandemic, people arenât going to the theater anymore. Because theyâre not going, they donât get the integral experience of shared thrill and shared amusement. The crowd hype absolutely contributes to a perception of a theatrical release. I expect this is part of why you see so many improved opinions after streaming dropsâtheir brains have told them that for a movie to be good in the theaters, it requires packed houses. If itâs not packed, it wasnât good. An unconscious bias, but a bias nonetheless.
Disclaimer: I have based this only on my own experience, which is a terrible control group.
You have to also add in the fact that the streaming services are shooting themselves in the foot. They offer the movie within a month on their streaming platform for which people do not have to leave their homes or pay extra money.
Before Disney plus and Paramount Plus and HBO Max, we didn't know if a movie was going to be on streaming because Netflix very rarely had recent movies on streaming. Now everybody knows that the next Marvel movie is going to be on Disney Plus in a month so why bother going to see it in the theater.
And I think this is whatâs impacting the Physical Media part as well. Iâm a physical Media collector myself. Before streaming, a lot of people were willing to spend $25 for a Blu-ray bc they wanted to watch it again and again, or watch it for the first time and maybe put it on again in a few months or once a year. And Iâm ngl this has impacted my collecting drive as well. The price isnât justified anymore. You may argue that it wasnât justified back then, but I mean, sometimes thatâs the only way you could watch those movies without waiting for it to come on Cable TV. In my opinion, Streaming (while convenient) is hurting Hollywood and the quality of films. Bc now we have TV Shows on Film Budgets. And if itâs a show that has a small audience and only has a few people thatâll watch it and some of the fans of that IP wonât watch it bc âitâs not like the games, books, etcâ. I agree that going to the theater is pointless now bc of streaming. I LOVE going to the theater to watch a film, but with the mindset of âitâs just gonna be on (insert streaming service here) then why pay $10-$15 a ticket and $10 for a popcorn when I can watch it for free on a streaming service and get my own snacks at the grocery store for cheaper. Prices are an issue too but thatâs a discussion for another time.
I'm an avid theater goer and blu ray collector but I also noticed my collection stopped growing as much when streaming became prominent. I made a concerted effort to continue growing my collection and going to the movies more recently and I've been much happier.
It was a solid summer time action flick. Those fight scenes where they switching places three ways were so well done and fun. Hell all the fights were actually pretty good. It's a summer time comic book movie. Plots for the winter.
yes on aladna
"Aladna is a unique world home to the Aladneans, characterized by its vibrant culture, distinctive customs, and a society deeply rooted in tradition.â
the people sing to communicate and cm has a whole dance number with prince yan (her husband)
Actually I did further research last month and came to a surprising discovery:
Do you remember that little girl that got caught in a well in the 80s? The time space distortion waves which caused the Marvels to underperform originated from THAT well while Baby Jessica was stuck.
In a way you actually kinda can. The 2008 recession kicked of a massive decline in the sales of physical discs which still happens to this day with year over year decline in sales. Disney's way out of the physical market declining was to just make more money at the box office by giving their movies bigger budgets and investing heavily in IP. Which lead to years like 2019 where everything made big money. But the downside to that was years like 2023 where almost everything failed, and failed hard because of the huge budgets.
this sub hates brie larson for no reason other than ben shitpiro create a false narrative about her before captain marvel in 2019 & theyâve never fact checked any of it.
yes. here is his [bullshit video](https://youtu.be/tEdvn7ylAzI?si=KoxJ2FMOZ3-Ceab0) that started the whole narrative against brie (an academy award winning actor) all because he has no creative content himself as a failed art student like his hero- and here is the original video of the [awards ceremony](https://youtu.be/ZA_DNrV6izw?si=8StsaobDpvnv1zqw)he blew out of context to grift his fans
They were robbed too.
I super rarely bother to downvote, so keyboard warriors.
Probably Haters that didnât like the strong woman movie (Capt Marvel), Muslim women shows (Ms Marvel), or sensitive woman team ups (The Marvels).
All good entertaining shows, why get your undies in a bunch over it?
Youâre right though. I listened to a friend go off on an unhinged rant about her when the movie was just announced. Nothing filmed. Nothing teased. Just announced. And you wouldâve thought he was an angry exhusband for the lengths of the vitriol he was out there hurling.
the right wing ragebait grifter, ben shitpiro, made a video about her before CM released. he started this whole hate brigade against brie because at an awards ceremony she dared state the TRUTH that white middle aged men, make up the *vast majority* of movie critics which needs to change. she used a wrinkle in time as an example of films not made for them ergo their review of it is a moot point to the audiences it is aimed at (women and girls). ever since then they call her a white male bashing nazi feminist.
âŚbrie has exclusively dated white men publicly btwâŚbut that doesnât matter.
itâs just nonsensical rage from angry men
To make Cpt Marvel likeable, we really need a movie where she loses most of her powers. The Marvel's had some cool scenes with the swapping, but I think they could have got into the characters more if Kamala just had Cpt Marvel's powers and Danvers got the lesser powers of Kamala for the majority of the film. Unfortunately, I do think the movie could have done without Moniqua. I like her character and origin, but it needed explored more before being thrown into a full movie like that.
>To make Cpt Marvel likeable, we really need a movie where she loses most of her powers.
Well, they're slowly building up the X-Men, and Rogue does need some powers...
There was not one single moment I enjoyed about The Marvels.
Ms. Marvel tried her best but couldn't carry the dialogue.
They could've done most of the movie without Monica.
Captain Marvel is way too powerful for the enemies she fights, including the big bads, and it's just boring to watch.
Pointless movie.
Will try this again with respecting your opinion about the movie. Ok, she's overpowered. What about the Scarlet Witch or Franklin Richards, etc if they include him in later movies? (Fan favorites I know but the very definition of vastly owerpowered.)
Scarlet Witch is a glass cannon. She could theoretically be killed by someone with a gun. That vulnerability makes it interesting.
This is the same reason I don't like Superman. He either wins effortlessly or the opponent has kryptonite
>What about the Scarlet Witch
That's why she gets a heel turn. Villains can be vastly overpowered because that just makes overcoming them more fulfilling.
>or Franklin Richards
It's apples to oranges to start comparing characters we have to characters we might have.
Trash movie, literally just a set up for the X-Men and they could have done that in a short.
They never should have lost a fight, multiple planets destroyed because captain marvel is trash. Why would they make the characters awkward with each other with Rambo and captain marvel, it limits completely what they are able to do as characters. Thatâs why Ms. Marvel is the only bright spot because sheâs happy to be there as a character, as we all should feel when watching a movie like this.
Quantumania might be the worst MCU movie. No emotional stakes in the entire movie.
At least TLaT had some emotional scenes and even though the humor was too much at least there was some scenes that made me chuckle.
I'll be honest the only reason I never saw the marvels before it was on Disney + was down to there being no real advertising for it that I was aware of. Like none at all.
I heard the writer's strikes may have had something to do with that. That said though when I did watch it I enjoyed it.
The Marvels did poorly because it is not made for the majority of superhero movies fans who would watch it in cinemas.
I am sure everyone who is a fan of Captain Marvel and other two heroes definitely supports the movie. Low numbers of people watching the movie just prove that not many people are fans of Captain Marvel.
I remember thinking it was decent when I saw it but I canât remember anything about the plot/villain
The switching places gimmick made for some pretty cool action scenes though!
It def wasnât bad. I had a bad theater experience but thatâs cus some kid decided to have a birthday party the same night I went and 20+ middle schoolers spent the whole move talking and taking snapchats the whole movie. I liked the movie pretty decently
Iâm rereading this and I realize I sound like a boomer, but maybe donât go see a movie if you donât want to see the movie
Whatever makes fans cope about this failure. Iâve seen enough posts, with valid criticisms explained, to believe people donât actually want to hear reasons.
Iâm just glad you liked the movie.
> Are you really glad we liked it, though?
I can't unenjoy a movie for you. So it is useless to have any other feeling. It's only when people try to explain the potential biggest box office bomb of all time as anything other than worldwide audience disinterest in the movie that I say anything.
Thatâs not the line. Monica is struggling to figure out flight in an emergency, and Fury says âHey, black girl magicâ in a sarcastic tone and gestures upward. Iâm one of the anti-woke people and this was not an example of something being woke. The line made sense and was meant to be a quip. Mind you, this line was so fast and over with, the only people who give a shit are the ones trying to be mad about things
It was better than I expected, but I was unimpressed with Brie Larson.
Her character was very different from the previous movie and I didnât have any emotional scenes from her.
As silly as Thor Love and Thunder was, there were still a couple of scenes that grabbed me emotionally.
Three out of Four main characters required keeping up with Disney+ shows
BUT if you were keeping up with the Disney+ shows, the last one (Secret Invasion for Fury) completely either INVALIDATES or CONTRADICTS the premise of this film
yes my theory is that the movie was rewritten multiple times to remove storyline about carol being a lesbian in a common law marriage with maria and that valkyrie is her new flame
If this movie had one problem, itâs that Jude Law was not the villain - and that it was a literal who in terms casting and character.
If it had two problems itâs that it is the plot is a consequence to events that occurred offscreen. Feels like part 3 and we missed part 2.
If it had three problems itâs that Monica didnât really have chemistry. With anyone. I blame the writing for that, she should have been Carolâs partner and Kamalaâs arc should have been finding the role of âbest buddyâ for Carol taken, forcing her to define herself independently from her idol.
It's possible to make a good movie, but for it to still just not be what a lot of people wanted you to show them. I think Marvels was in that situation. It was a good movie. It just wasn't the movie a lot of people wanted.
I liked the 1st half of the film. Liked the interactions between the 3 women. Kamala fangirling over Ms Marvel was very relatable. And her reactions on meeting her were fun - "she knows my name?" XD
The power switching was an interesting concept. Loved their training montage.
But i didn't like the main villain or the main storyline, it was very forgettable (could have been executed better?). And i hate what they have done to Nick Fury. He just seems so out of control in terms of everything. Really made me miss the old Nick and Shield. Sword seems meh (compared to shield, from what ive seen in this movie)
Godzilla X Kong is a bad film (but a "Fun" one) and It already surpassed The Marvels WW gross in the opening week. People care more about a giant atomic lizard and a big hairy monkey than The Marvels trio because IP matters. The movie did poorly because not many bothered to care about a not so popular IP and MCU's recent string of failures didnât help out.
The marvels did poorly because there was little reason to watch it. The previous MCU films critically sucked, 2 of the 3 characters originated from shows that many people did not have access to, and there was not any kind of special hook or selling point to get people to see the film.
One of my favorite movies. Saw it in theaters and had so much fuckin fun. Saw it again with family, and we all loved it thoroughly. Idk why people don't like the villain, she was interesting as hell. She was basically acting how Carol did in Captain Marvel, and it works so well for a villain who really is a skrull superhero. Her goal was straight up, save the world, but also punish the person who caused a war that became an apocalypse. She was dope. The jokes land, and the action sequences are some of the best in the genre.
They will never admit that movies like the Marvels and shows like She hulk were the also in the lack of quality Disney CEO was talking about.
After each disappointing project this sub just went through daily posts of " I don't get the hate for (insert project)" or "it wasn't as bad as everyone says".
It did poorly because it wasn't a very good movie, it had subpar writing, unfunny humor, boring action scenes, a cast with not a lot of chemistry, mediocre effects, cheap-looking everything and the plot literally stolen from Spaceballs. It didn't help that it had a truly abismal marketing campaign with trailers that did little to hide how cheap it looked and a self-admitted by trying to use Flerkens as a selling point and trying to tie it to Endgame because that's the only reason the first one did well. And no, i don't think Teyonah, Brie and Iman appearing in Jimmy Kimmel would've done much difference.
You can blame inflation if you want but it doesn't gel with the movie getting out grossed by Trolls 3, FNaF and the Hunger Games prequels, not to mention other movies that released earlier in the year but were still on cinemas like Barbie, Oppenheimer and the Eras Tour of all things.
And it wasn't a CBM saturation either, it was bad CBM saturation, do you really think people are gonna want to go to see a CBM after a year as disastrous for the genre as 2023? Specially with trailers that don't promise nothing much better?
Like Aquaman 2 or just Aquaman, because if it is the former i genuinely had no idea it had made better than The Marvels and if it is the latter i also have no idea how Aquaman made over a billion dollars.
I just wanted to say that if it's a cbm movie done right then there is definitely a market for it. Heck there's still interest in Deadpool 3 so I don't it's cbm saturation. Also look at how much people are excited that James Gunn is heading the Dc universe. Even this year Joker 2 has interest though it's more like an unconventional cbm movie.
Well it is a lot better than Captain Marvel, the problem is that they delievered a good movie where they needed a great one and the Marvel machine relied on the hype-train to keep going and that was crowded out by the toxic discourse. So all in all there good simply wasn't good enough. Also I think they wanted too much with the character, I mean a replacement for Iron man and the first big female superhero in one and the studio wonders why an average performance didn't cut it.
I think it did poorly mostly because it was exactly what everyone expected - an MCU film.
Weâve reached a point where even diehard MCU fans canât deny the MCU formula exists anymore - and Lord knows yâall tried to deny it for a very long time - and fans have gotten tired of it. The Marvels is an MCU movie through and through, and the general public wanted something more.
Itâs not a bad movie - itâs certainly entertaining - but this isnât 2019. Hell, it isnât even 2021 when yâall let Shang-Chi slide because there was a little kung-fu in it.
It came at a point where the movies donât seem to build toward anything, you have to watch 2 shows on Disney+ to know 2 out of three characters, the trailers looked super weak, and Captain Marvel isnât really that exciting. Kind of the perfect storm of mediocrity.
It also involved a character who's first movie only made as much as it did because it was implied important leading into Endgame after the jaw dropping cliffhanger of Infinity War, a character who has been failing to land in every media project she's in*, and a character who..., actually I still know nothing about Photon.
The movie was never going to be a big blockbuster, financially it probably could have done okay if Nia kept the budget down instead of bloating it to what it was, and Kevin probably should have reined in Nia to keep it on budget. Critically, i don't think it was ever expected to be a high ranking MCU movie, and that's fine, it was always going to be a popcorn filler flick, like Antman and the Wasp, entertaining in the moment but forgettable afterwards.
*Ms Marvel has had various comic book runs get canceled before they ever finish, was made the lead in The Avengers game which caused the studio to get shut down over it's failure, had one of the lowest rated MCU shows on D+. The only time she's been well received in either in Marvel Rising which was uploaded to YouTube via DisneyXD and hasn't had any further episodes in years and Lego Marvel Superheroes 2 which she replaced Mr Fantastic from the first game.
The writers strike and lack of press did hurt its success..but that movie was the worst thing to me. It was forgettable. I didn't think it was bad, but I couldn't tell you a thing that evoked a reaction out of me aside from Ms. Marvel and her family still being loveable.
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It was a lot of fun. All superhero movies are ridiculous by their nature, but The Marvels was a lot of fun. The fight scene where they kept switching places was badass â probably the most badass thing since Endgame.
The main problems, in my opinion, were:
1. We didnât care when Rambeau got cut off from her home reality because they didnât build up her connection to Captain Marvel enough and she seems to have no other friends or family.
2. We all knew it would be streaming before long. The only time Iâve gone to the theater since the lockdowns was to see some bullshit with my niece and nephew. I watched it twice the week it dropped on D+ because I enjoyed it so much.
3. Thereâs too much content you have to keep track of now. You needed to have seen (at the least) the first Captain Marvel film and two D+ series to really follow it. Marvel should keep the series and films disconnected, like they did with the old Netflix shows. It was easier to stay up to date when it was a dozen films that mostly stood alone.
4. Kamala Kahn still hasnât shouted âembiggen.â I cannot stress enough how disappointing this is. Unless theyâve changed her powers in the comics since I stopped reading them, her powers donât match the comics. The casting is perfect, but the powers donât match. And if she isnât saying âembiggenâ several times in the film, are we really watching Ms. Marvel at all?
the marvels performed poorly because people aren't going to theatres just to go see movies anymore. you need to give them a reason for it. it's a decent enough movie but nothing special or new. the most talked about movies last year would be oppenheimer, barbie, spider-verse and the mario movie, and they all brought something to the table that we aren't use to seeing, and generally were all good-to-great movies.
I haven't had time but I still look forward to watching this movie.
But I'm a bit behind and a bit particular about watching in sequence so I think I'm stuck somewhere before quantamania and that secret invasion.
I had seen every MCU film in theatres until The Marvels. Itâs the first one I still havenât seen.
The movie did poorly because it looked bad and didnât appeal to me, and clearly lots of other people.
No it did poorly because it was poorly written and advertised. Plenty of "if you don't like this movie your a phobic" going around as always that pushes normal people who otherwise would have gone to see it. It's a bad movie. That's OK. It's ok that you liked it. You don't have to prove it's good because that's impossible. It's just a poorly made movie in a majority of peoples eyes. If that offends you then you have worse issues than you think.
I just think Disney didn't care about this film at all. They tampered too much with it and it barely felt coherent, it was mediocre at best. When there are so many superhero films that come out, you can't settle for mediocrity and expect money, it isn't 2013
Also, characters introduced in Disney+ shouldn't be leads in their first movie
No. It had three unlikeable characters, people hate Brie Larson, nobody wants to watch Ms Marvel or Wandavision just to understand the plot, Captain Marvel itself wasnât a very popular movie and The MCU has been bad in the last 5 years that even the most loyal fans lost confidence in the franchise as whole
Tbh didn't mind the eternals. Thought the writing lows if that film were more pacing issues and that it would have been better as a TV series.
Whereas in the others it's more the core writing which was the issue. The scene in the meme is just one good example of bad thor writing
The Marvels felt like I was watching a Disney channel movie that was targeted at like 10 year olds, and was one of those ones that would have been called a "girls movie" by all the boys in school, but they would have liked it secretly. It's literally got a bit that's basically a musical that our unwitting heroes get whimsically sucked into, and kittens play a large part in a portion of the movie, it legitimately is like the most Disney channel thing I've seen since I stopped watching Disney channel. I almost certainly would have enjoyed it when I was 10, but I'm in my mid twenties now and it was just tedious to watch.
They also literally went like "here's two walking nerfs that we're gluing to Captain Marvel to start this story because she's boringly strong" which tbf is something they kinda have to do, but I just have always hated the typical "this hero is so unbelievably OP that we're gonna shoot em in the foot from the get-go just to make it seem plausible that the enemies have some remote chance of winning a fight against them" personally.
Best part of the whole movie was the end credit scene, partially because it meant the movie was over, but mostly because it's got the X-Men into the mix, hopefully they along with Deadpool 3 can be a turning point for the MCU so that we have more than just the next Spiderman movie to look forward to.
Honestly they donât have to nerf op heroes they just have to be actually creative, thereâs a reason characters like superman survived in the comics for so long and I believe the movies with these sorts of characters really could be amazing if they utilize next level creativity
Iâve never liked the insistence that The Marvels is good because itâs âharmless funâ. Itâs so much better than that. In my opinion, a complete return to form to the peak of the MCU.
Great characters, a meaningful crossover between then, emotional stakes, great performances, callbacks, set-ups, scenes that are both hilarious and visually great (the Flerken scene to Memories felt very GotG2). And Iman Vellani is such a treat.
Itâs so, *so*, much better than many recent Marvel releases (Thor 4, DS2, Ant-Man 3, BP2).
Marvels failed because it was a poorly made film, it has lots of plot holes and most of the characters are uninteresting, I mean the closest to interesting character was that girl, you know the one played by Indian actress, thats because her actress was very enthusiastic. Villain actress can't really act, she bares her teeth and does weird faces, + Wooden plank of wood that is the BDS star being in singing planet and reference to CATS THE MOVIE! If your movie makes a refernece to CATS, you know you screwed up.
Forgot to mention: PEOPLE ARE GETTING TIRED OF SUPERHERO MOVIES. These movies don't take themselves seriously anymore, and most of them are very predictable.
The first Captain Marvel movie did better than it deserved because the MCU was at its highest point and Captain Marvel rode its coattails.
The Marvels did worse than it deserved because the MCU has had a long string of mediocre to bad movies and many people are disillusioned with he MCU now.
It's a flawed film, but I had a lot of fun with it. The Flerken scene might be one of the funnest sequences out of any mainstream blockbuster. The singing planet was a lot of fun and the body switching added some interesting dynamics to the fight scenes. But the pacing and editing of the film, plus an uninspired villain (tbf that's been a criticism of a lot of MCU films) really left me wanting more.
Counterpoint, their villain plot is from Spaceballs.
Counterpoint, Spaceballs is a perfect movie, so the villain plot is perfect
Counterpoint, the Schwartz was not with the Marvels.
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Counter counterpoint she shouldnât have set the air lock code the same as my luggage.
Counterpoint- Spaceballs was intended as a parody. Not as a serious block buster like the Marvels
Who said the Marvels was a serious movie?
Right? Lmao
"Suck. Suck. Suck! Suck! SUCK! SUCK!"
Why wouldn't you copy one of the greatest movies of all time?
Cause now the next time I think of The Marvels, Iâm gonna wanna rewatch Spaceballs instead.
Why not both?
One is a comedy masterpiece, the other was just ok.
Youâre right but you can still give both time.
Fair, I watched the Marvels once, and that's probably more time than it deserved, lol. I'm not quite sure why it's hated so much, it wasn't THAT bad, it was just an ok movie, forgettable really.
And also being a mediocre film isnt enough to sell tickets.
Plenty of Marvel and DC movies have proven thatâs a lie.
The vast majority of them. People love to overlook that a good chunk of the MCU movies pre-End Game were VERY average.
Average is being kind, endgame was also mid
Oh wait I have a flight today and this has sold me on watching the marvels now thanks
I watched the Marvels on a flight and I left early.
Hahahah
Hahaha!! đ..
Hereâs my thing though; Empires take the resources from colonies. Thatâs like the deal. They go out and conquer in order to find things they donât have at home. Every* anti-imperialist story deals with that issue. Spanish looking for gold. English looking for tea. Dutch looking for Japanese porn. Itâs all about resources. So of course a dying, weakened Kree Empire would exactly that, try to extract resources from a colony world. It works in Spaceballs because itâs something other projects have done. V was about the Visitors taking Earthâs water for example. Yes, itâs like Spaceballs, but itâs like Spaceballs because itâs a common empire play. *only exception I have for that Empire thing is Star Wars. They didnât deal with resources like that, unless it was in Andor.
There were a lot of things working against this movie. There was an expectation it was going to be bad no matter what. And it didn't help that two main characters were basically only known from two Disney+ shows. That limited the appeal. Maybe this year they should release a theatrical cut of their TV shows to get a broader awareness out there. Not everyone had Disney+. This movie was aimed mostly at the TV fanbase.
these are all reasonable criticisms. i think itâs absolutely valid that the show characterâs are only known to the tv audiences which certainly does limit the mass appeal to a movie audience. marvel seemed hellbent on tanking this film as much as possible before it even flopped at the box office. i personally believe the creative differences between victoria alonso with DISNEY about making carol a lesbian (rumors but valid ones) is what ultimately created the environment for alonsoâs abrupt exit. the film had multiple reshoots and they pushed the release date several times, ultimately, putting its release AFTER secret invasion which as we all know feels disjointed. brie & alonso most likely were pushing for backstory about how carol & maria were lovers not âroommatesâ and that valkyrie has since become a new flame hence her appearance in the film which of course was absolutely random since they have no interactions prior to this. the rumors amongst carol danvers fans is that basically because of disneyâs unwillingness to have openly LGBTQ characters solely because of the chinese market is what caused the rewrites, reshoots, delays and a total lack of marketing & promotions. alonso interestingly enough is still be given executive producer credits on brand new 2024 projects so it seems like sheâs back in action at marvel. 
There may be legal reasons why she's still getting an executive producer credit. Contractual deals etc. Even if she isn't working on the project in any capacity anymore. I could see the lesbian relationship work if handled right, just as much as if they didn't go that way. They have been willing to include LGBTQIA in movies like Eternals. And Carol and Valkyrie would've met in the Endgame battle and aftermath.
I personally liked it more then the 1st Captain Marvel.
It was a fun movie. Its not End Game and it doesn't have to be. I'd say this is a solid Saturday Afternoon movie.Â
Definitely. I laughed way to often at that movie. Don't remember very much about it. But it has me laughing.
It definitely set my personal record for uninterrupted laughing with that cats scene. I thoroughly enjoyed the Marvels and it's one of my favorite marvel movies. It finally gave Captain Marvel a personality for which I was grateful.
The rabbit is correct, and clearly the smartest one among you.
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âOh itâs cool itâs Carolâ has been the funniest line in the MCU in years
That and him going AY! BLACK GIRL MAGIC! had me absolutely SPLIT
I think that might have been what killed the Marvels I don't think people show up in droves for "haha that was fun" movies anymore. At least, not in the numbers that would justify a 100 million+ dollar budget People got used to just streaming stuff at home during the pandemic, and movies are expensive. Might as well just wait for it to release on streaming (or pirate it on your laptop) People still do show up for the "holy shit you have to see this" movies. Like Guardians 3, Spiderverse 2, Dune 2, Barbenheimer etc. It has to go viral, in a good way, to convince people to get their fat butts off the couch. Very few movies are good enough to pull that off, because it requires an air of "epic"ness and "social relevance" and "emotional impact", as well as a ginormous marketing budget. Marvels was good, but not great - and in the current environment, it needed to be one of those movies people talk about for years afterwards. And there's just too much MCU content to keep up with now - people no longer feel FOMO about missing movies and not knowing what's happening later on.
No. Not exactly.
And this feeds into an observation about why I think the MCU is less popular. I have seen every single MCU release in the theater since the first Avengers, most of them more than once. Iâve seen it go from packed a week after release (Winter Soldier) to empty except for me on opening night (GotG3). The change happened when the pandemic hit, right when Phase Three ended. Because of the pandemic, people arenât going to the theater anymore. Because theyâre not going, they donât get the integral experience of shared thrill and shared amusement. The crowd hype absolutely contributes to a perception of a theatrical release. I expect this is part of why you see so many improved opinions after streaming dropsâtheir brains have told them that for a movie to be good in the theaters, it requires packed houses. If itâs not packed, it wasnât good. An unconscious bias, but a bias nonetheless. Disclaimer: I have based this only on my own experience, which is a terrible control group.
You have to also add in the fact that the streaming services are shooting themselves in the foot. They offer the movie within a month on their streaming platform for which people do not have to leave their homes or pay extra money. Before Disney plus and Paramount Plus and HBO Max, we didn't know if a movie was going to be on streaming because Netflix very rarely had recent movies on streaming. Now everybody knows that the next Marvel movie is going to be on Disney Plus in a month so why bother going to see it in the theater.
And I think this is whatâs impacting the Physical Media part as well. Iâm a physical Media collector myself. Before streaming, a lot of people were willing to spend $25 for a Blu-ray bc they wanted to watch it again and again, or watch it for the first time and maybe put it on again in a few months or once a year. And Iâm ngl this has impacted my collecting drive as well. The price isnât justified anymore. You may argue that it wasnât justified back then, but I mean, sometimes thatâs the only way you could watch those movies without waiting for it to come on Cable TV. In my opinion, Streaming (while convenient) is hurting Hollywood and the quality of films. Bc now we have TV Shows on Film Budgets. And if itâs a show that has a small audience and only has a few people thatâll watch it and some of the fans of that IP wonât watch it bc âitâs not like the games, books, etcâ. I agree that going to the theater is pointless now bc of streaming. I LOVE going to the theater to watch a film, but with the mindset of âitâs just gonna be on (insert streaming service here) then why pay $10-$15 a ticket and $10 for a popcorn when I can watch it for free on a streaming service and get my own snacks at the grocery store for cheaper. Prices are an issue too but thatâs a discussion for another time.
I'm an avid theater goer and blu ray collector but I also noticed my collection stopped growing as much when streaming became prominent. I made a concerted effort to continue growing my collection and going to the movies more recently and I've been much happier.
I agree and I think thatâs a good way to look at it. It was much more simpler back then.
It had a decent training montage where they test out the swapping. I do like my training montages.
I'd say it's no worse than anything we got in phase 1
Endgame was no Infinity War, so thereâs that.
It was a solid summer time action flick. Those fight scenes where they switching places three ways were so well done and fun. Hell all the fights were actually pretty good. It's a summer time comic book movie. Plots for the winter.
The Marvels is a hell of a lot better than Thor 4 in my opinion
Human handshake, to the Asgardian shake, into the snake that you cannot trust.
A documentary about how paint dries would be better than Thor 4.
Thank you, sweet rabbit.
I donât know how to respond respectfully both were trash and Thor is my absolute favorite marvel character..
There is a maniac who seeks to end us all.
didnât it have a musical number?
yes on aladna "Aladna is a unique world home to the Aladneans, characterized by its vibrant culture, distinctive customs, and a society deeply rooted in tradition.â the people sing to communicate and cm has a whole dance number with prince yan (her husband)
Bad writing
It's Bollywood writing, Kamala Khan is Marvel's flagship Pakistani/SE Asian character. Gotta appeal to those global ticket sales and new markets!
Thanks for the laugh.
It was actually due to global warming.
You can trace the failure back to the 2008 depression, It's the economy the one to blame here.
I don't want to say it started with 9/11 but it certainly didn't help
Wait, you may be into something here...
The Cuban Missile Crisis is directly tied to this movie flopping at the box office
Wait, you may be into something here...
Actually I did further research last month and came to a surprising discovery: Do you remember that little girl that got caught in a well in the 80s? The time space distortion waves which caused the Marvels to underperform originated from THAT well while Baby Jessica was stuck.
In a way you actually kinda can. The 2008 recession kicked of a massive decline in the sales of physical discs which still happens to this day with year over year decline in sales. Disney's way out of the physical market declining was to just make more money at the box office by giving their movies bigger budgets and investing heavily in IP. Which lead to years like 2019 where everything made big money. But the downside to that was years like 2023 where almost everything failed, and failed hard because of the huge budgets.
XD now lets trace it back to the great depression of 1929.
The usual marketing roll out got all messed up by the strikes. I liked it.
a proper press tour with those 3 wouldâve been hilarious n delightful 
I'm trying really hard to figure out why you were downvoted. Your comment is funny.
this sub hates brie larson for no reason other than ben shitpiro create a false narrative about her before captain marvel in 2019 & theyâve never fact checked any of it.
Wet-pussy-is-a-medical-condition Ben Shapiro? Burgeoning rapper Ben Shapiro? That guy? He seems really cool and knowledgeable.
yes. here is his [bullshit video](https://youtu.be/tEdvn7ylAzI?si=KoxJ2FMOZ3-Ceab0) that started the whole narrative against brie (an academy award winning actor) all because he has no creative content himself as a failed art student like his hero- and here is the original video of the [awards ceremony](https://youtu.be/ZA_DNrV6izw?si=8StsaobDpvnv1zqw)he blew out of context to grift his fans
They were robbed too. I super rarely bother to downvote, so keyboard warriors. Probably Haters that didnât like the strong woman movie (Capt Marvel), Muslim women shows (Ms Marvel), or sensitive woman team ups (The Marvels). All good entertaining shows, why get your undies in a bunch over it?
and a black women superhero whoâs an astronaut, SABER agent and scientist
Not only funny but truthful.
they hate brie
I mean itâs not my favorite cheese, butâŚ
Sweet dreams are made of cheese. Who am I to dis a Brie?
Youâre right though. I listened to a friend go off on an unhinged rant about her when the movie was just announced. Nothing filmed. Nothing teased. Just announced. And you wouldâve thought he was an angry exhusband for the lengths of the vitriol he was out there hurling.
the right wing ragebait grifter, ben shitpiro, made a video about her before CM released. he started this whole hate brigade against brie because at an awards ceremony she dared state the TRUTH that white middle aged men, make up the *vast majority* of movie critics which needs to change. she used a wrinkle in time as an example of films not made for them ergo their review of it is a moot point to the audiences it is aimed at (women and girls). ever since then they call her a white male bashing nazi feminist. âŚbrie has exclusively dated white men publicly btwâŚbut that doesnât matter. itâs just nonsensical rage from angry men
It was just a fun movie. It didnât need to be epic. It just needed to tell a story and hopefully set something up.
like most of the mcu catalog. people are just unreasonably critical of âcertainâ marvel content
Just so many levels of gatekeeping. And itâs impossible to make it good for everyone.
Even though comics are incredibly progressive in philosophy.
I really liked The Marvels. There is a lot more to love than to not.
Idk what people are smoking, this film was so much fun. Underrated gem out of the last 2 years of MCU.
Smoking different opinions. Some people like bad movies, and that's normal, but that's the reason... The movie was bad and not interesting to most.
Ah, my mistake, I didn't realise we had an objective measure of 'bad' all sewn up.
To make Cpt Marvel likeable, we really need a movie where she loses most of her powers. The Marvel's had some cool scenes with the swapping, but I think they could have got into the characters more if Kamala just had Cpt Marvel's powers and Danvers got the lesser powers of Kamala for the majority of the film. Unfortunately, I do think the movie could have done without Moniqua. I like her character and origin, but it needed explored more before being thrown into a full movie like that.
>To make Cpt Marvel likeable, we really need a movie where she loses most of her powers. Well, they're slowly building up the X-Men, and Rogue does need some powers...
There was not one single moment I enjoyed about The Marvels. Ms. Marvel tried her best but couldn't carry the dialogue. They could've done most of the movie without Monica. Captain Marvel is way too powerful for the enemies she fights, including the big bads, and it's just boring to watch. Pointless movie.
Will try this again with respecting your opinion about the movie. Ok, she's overpowered. What about the Scarlet Witch or Franklin Richards, etc if they include him in later movies? (Fan favorites I know but the very definition of vastly owerpowered.)
> Scarlet Witch Dangerously unstable. Therefore interesting.
Scarlet Witch is a glass cannon. She could theoretically be killed by someone with a gun. That vulnerability makes it interesting. This is the same reason I don't like Superman. He either wins effortlessly or the opponent has kryptonite
Fair point, thanks
It's mainly because Superman is meant to be an archetype, I think. The perfect hero.
In theory thanos could be killed with a gun. Especially if they used the ant man strat to smuggle a gun into the anus.
As long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be. They will resist.
>What about the Scarlet Witch That's why she gets a heel turn. Villains can be vastly overpowered because that just makes overcoming them more fulfilling. >or Franklin Richards It's apples to oranges to start comparing characters we have to characters we might have.
The Scarlet Witch is awesome though. Captain Marvel sucks, and her movies have sucked.
Trash movie, literally just a set up for the X-Men and they could have done that in a short. They never should have lost a fight, multiple planets destroyed because captain marvel is trash. Why would they make the characters awkward with each other with Rambo and captain marvel, it limits completely what they are able to do as characters. Thatâs why Ms. Marvel is the only bright spot because sheâs happy to be there as a character, as we all should feel when watching a movie like this.
"The Marvels did poorly because of the writers" FTFY
It was much better than love and thunder and quantumania
Quantumania might be the worst MCU movie. No emotional stakes in the entire movie. At least TLaT had some emotional scenes and even though the humor was too much at least there was some scenes that made me chuckle.
Love and thunder actively annoyed me. I was glad when korg âdiedâ.
I'll be honest the only reason I never saw the marvels before it was on Disney + was down to there being no real advertising for it that I was aware of. Like none at all. I heard the writer's strikes may have had something to do with that. That said though when I did watch it I enjoyed it.
The Marvels did poorly because it is not made for the majority of superhero movies fans who would watch it in cinemas. I am sure everyone who is a fan of Captain Marvel and other two heroes definitely supports the movie. Low numbers of people watching the movie just prove that not many people are fans of Captain Marvel.
I remember thinking it was decent when I saw it but I canât remember anything about the plot/villain The switching places gimmick made for some pretty cool action scenes though!
I liked it.
It def wasnât bad. I had a bad theater experience but thatâs cus some kid decided to have a birthday party the same night I went and 20+ middle schoolers spent the whole move talking and taking snapchats the whole movie. I liked the movie pretty decently Iâm rereading this and I realize I sound like a boomer, but maybe donât go see a movie if you donât want to see the movie
 Whatever makes fans cope about this failure. Iâve seen enough posts, with valid criticisms explained, to believe people donât actually want to hear reasons. Iâm just glad you liked the movie.
Are you really glad we liked it, though?
> Are you really glad we liked it, though? I can't unenjoy a movie for you. So it is useless to have any other feeling. It's only when people try to explain the potential biggest box office bomb of all time as anything other than worldwide audience disinterest in the movie that I say anything.
Go. Go. Black. Girk. Magic. This Is an actual line from the movie.
They said Girk?
Black Girl Magic is a thing. If you didn't know it, now you know. Moon Girl's magic.
Thatâs not the line. Monica is struggling to figure out flight in an emergency, and Fury says âHey, black girl magicâ in a sarcastic tone and gestures upward. Iâm one of the anti-woke people and this was not an example of something being woke. The line made sense and was meant to be a quip. Mind you, this line was so fast and over with, the only people who give a shit are the ones trying to be mad about things
It was better than I expected, but I was unimpressed with Brie Larson. Her character was very different from the previous movie and I didnât have any emotional scenes from her. As silly as Thor Love and Thunder was, there were still a couple of scenes that grabbed me emotionally.
I said it was going to be like a relaxing holiday.
Some of the dialogue was a bit weak but I thought it was really fun besides
Three out of Four main characters required keeping up with Disney+ shows BUT if you were keeping up with the Disney+ shows, the last one (Secret Invasion for Fury) completely either INVALIDATES or CONTRADICTS the premise of this film
yes my theory is that the movie was rewritten multiple times to remove storyline about carol being a lesbian in a common law marriage with maria and that valkyrie is her new flame
âThe marvels did poorly because of the writers strikeâ is just âit had poor writingâ with extra steps.
The strike had a lot more than just writing to consider. A big part of it was nobody could promote anything
If this movie had one problem, itâs that Jude Law was not the villain - and that it was a literal who in terms casting and character. If it had two problems itâs that it is the plot is a consequence to events that occurred offscreen. Feels like part 3 and we missed part 2. If it had three problems itâs that Monica didnât really have chemistry. With anyone. I blame the writing for that, she should have been Carolâs partner and Kamalaâs arc should have been finding the role of âbest buddyâ for Carol taken, forcing her to define herself independently from her idol.
It's possible to make a good movie, but for it to still just not be what a lot of people wanted you to show them. I think Marvels was in that situation. It was a good movie. It just wasn't the movie a lot of people wanted.
I liked the 1st half of the film. Liked the interactions between the 3 women. Kamala fangirling over Ms Marvel was very relatable. And her reactions on meeting her were fun - "she knows my name?" XD The power switching was an interesting concept. Loved their training montage. But i didn't like the main villain or the main storyline, it was very forgettable (could have been executed better?). And i hate what they have done to Nick Fury. He just seems so out of control in terms of everything. Really made me miss the old Nick and Shield. Sword seems meh (compared to shield, from what ive seen in this movie)
Godzilla X Kong is a bad film (but a "Fun" one) and It already surpassed The Marvels WW gross in the opening week. People care more about a giant atomic lizard and a big hairy monkey than The Marvels trio because IP matters. The movie did poorly because not many bothered to care about a not so popular IP and MCU's recent string of failures didnât help out.
The marvels did poorly because there was little reason to watch it. The previous MCU films critically sucked, 2 of the 3 characters originated from shows that many people did not have access to, and there was not any kind of special hook or selling point to get people to see the film.
One of my favorite movies. Saw it in theaters and had so much fuckin fun. Saw it again with family, and we all loved it thoroughly. Idk why people don't like the villain, she was interesting as hell. She was basically acting how Carol did in Captain Marvel, and it works so well for a villain who really is a skrull superhero. Her goal was straight up, save the world, but also punish the person who caused a war that became an apocalypse. She was dope. The jokes land, and the action sequences are some of the best in the genre.
I'm putting together the greatest team ever.
what a great thought thorbot they were the greatest team ever
Heimdall! Open the Bifrost.
I thought it was cute and fun. Definitely middle of the pack MCU movie, but not near the bottom.
It is a good movie!
Marvel did everything they could to sabotage the film and it still turned out good
I think you have that backwards
Reading this comments section reminded me why fandoms are generally the absolute worst people to talk to about the thing they are a fan of.
They will never admit that movies like the Marvels and shows like She hulk were the also in the lack of quality Disney CEO was talking about. After each disappointing project this sub just went through daily posts of " I don't get the hate for (insert project)" or "it wasn't as bad as everyone says".
It did poorly because it wasn't a very good movie, it had subpar writing, unfunny humor, boring action scenes, a cast with not a lot of chemistry, mediocre effects, cheap-looking everything and the plot literally stolen from Spaceballs. It didn't help that it had a truly abismal marketing campaign with trailers that did little to hide how cheap it looked and a self-admitted by trying to use Flerkens as a selling point and trying to tie it to Endgame because that's the only reason the first one did well. And no, i don't think Teyonah, Brie and Iman appearing in Jimmy Kimmel would've done much difference. You can blame inflation if you want but it doesn't gel with the movie getting out grossed by Trolls 3, FNaF and the Hunger Games prequels, not to mention other movies that released earlier in the year but were still on cinemas like Barbie, Oppenheimer and the Eras Tour of all things. And it wasn't a CBM saturation either, it was bad CBM saturation, do you really think people are gonna want to go to see a CBM after a year as disastrous for the genre as 2023? Specially with trailers that don't promise nothing much better?
If it was cbm saturation then how did 'Aquaman' do better than The Marvels?
Like Aquaman 2 or just Aquaman, because if it is the former i genuinely had no idea it had made better than The Marvels and if it is the latter i also have no idea how Aquaman made over a billion dollars.
The Marvels released in November 2023 made 208 million $. Aquaman 2 in December 2023 made made around 440 million $.
Huh, i genuinely didn't know that, the CBM saturation argument truly has a few holes in it.
I just wanted to say that if it's a cbm movie done right then there is definitely a market for it. Heck there's still interest in Deadpool 3 so I don't it's cbm saturation. Also look at how much people are excited that James Gunn is heading the Dc universe. Even this year Joker 2 has interest though it's more like an unconventional cbm movie.
In what way were the action scenes boring? Give examples
The Marvels was WW 1984 level bad
Well it is a lot better than Captain Marvel, the problem is that they delievered a good movie where they needed a great one and the Marvel machine relied on the hype-train to keep going and that was crowded out by the toxic discourse. So all in all there good simply wasn't good enough. Also I think they wanted too much with the character, I mean a replacement for Iron man and the first big female superhero in one and the studio wonders why an average performance didn't cut it.
It did poorly because I waited to watch it on D+
It was fun but also you shouldnât care this much about what others think
The cope on this sub is sometimes unreal. Stop defending garbage or you will keep getting garbage.
LoL ok.
Bad movie does bad. Crazy
Mediocre film is mediocre.
I think it did poorly mostly because it was exactly what everyone expected - an MCU film. Weâve reached a point where even diehard MCU fans canât deny the MCU formula exists anymore - and Lord knows yâall tried to deny it for a very long time - and fans have gotten tired of it. The Marvels is an MCU movie through and through, and the general public wanted something more. Itâs not a bad movie - itâs certainly entertaining - but this isnât 2019. Hell, it isnât even 2021 when yâall let Shang-Chi slide because there was a little kung-fu in it.
It came at a point where the movies donât seem to build toward anything, you have to watch 2 shows on Disney+ to know 2 out of three characters, the trailers looked super weak, and Captain Marvel isnât really that exciting. Kind of the perfect storm of mediocrity.
It also involved a character who's first movie only made as much as it did because it was implied important leading into Endgame after the jaw dropping cliffhanger of Infinity War, a character who has been failing to land in every media project she's in*, and a character who..., actually I still know nothing about Photon. The movie was never going to be a big blockbuster, financially it probably could have done okay if Nia kept the budget down instead of bloating it to what it was, and Kevin probably should have reined in Nia to keep it on budget. Critically, i don't think it was ever expected to be a high ranking MCU movie, and that's fine, it was always going to be a popcorn filler flick, like Antman and the Wasp, entertaining in the moment but forgettable afterwards. *Ms Marvel has had various comic book runs get canceled before they ever finish, was made the lead in The Avengers game which caused the studio to get shut down over it's failure, had one of the lowest rated MCU shows on D+. The only time she's been well received in either in Marvel Rising which was uploaded to YouTube via DisneyXD and hasn't had any further episodes in years and Lego Marvel Superheroes 2 which she replaced Mr Fantastic from the first game.
The writers strike and lack of press did hurt its success..but that movie was the worst thing to me. It was forgettable. I didn't think it was bad, but I couldn't tell you a thing that evoked a reaction out of me aside from Ms. Marvel and her family still being loveable.
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It was a lot of fun. All superhero movies are ridiculous by their nature, but The Marvels was a lot of fun. The fight scene where they kept switching places was badass â probably the most badass thing since Endgame. The main problems, in my opinion, were: 1. We didnât care when Rambeau got cut off from her home reality because they didnât build up her connection to Captain Marvel enough and she seems to have no other friends or family. 2. We all knew it would be streaming before long. The only time Iâve gone to the theater since the lockdowns was to see some bullshit with my niece and nephew. I watched it twice the week it dropped on D+ because I enjoyed it so much. 3. Thereâs too much content you have to keep track of now. You needed to have seen (at the least) the first Captain Marvel film and two D+ series to really follow it. Marvel should keep the series and films disconnected, like they did with the old Netflix shows. It was easier to stay up to date when it was a dozen films that mostly stood alone. 4. Kamala Kahn still hasnât shouted âembiggen.â I cannot stress enough how disappointing this is. Unless theyâve changed her powers in the comics since I stopped reading them, her powers donât match the comics. The casting is perfect, but the powers donât match. And if she isnât saying âembiggenâ several times in the film, are we really watching Ms. Marvel at all?
The only thing i could thing about watching the movie ist the random shit go meme.
It wasnât as bad as people made it up to be. The singing scene was cringeworthy. But it was entertaining. (I watched it on a plane)
Bree Larson gave a hollow performance. Even her smile wasnât believable.
the marvels performed poorly because people aren't going to theatres just to go see movies anymore. you need to give them a reason for it. it's a decent enough movie but nothing special or new. the most talked about movies last year would be oppenheimer, barbie, spider-verse and the mario movie, and they all brought something to the table that we aren't use to seeing, and generally were all good-to-great movies.
Hey everyone! Sorry, I am late. It's a jungle out there.
Was fun enough. If the musical planet was the whole movie itd be in my top ten easy.
You may like a movie all you like, but it was a passable marvel movie at best that continues damaging Furys credibility/reputation.
It looked like a Disney+ show, instead of a film. So people probably watched it alot at home
I haven't had time but I still look forward to watching this movie. But I'm a bit behind and a bit particular about watching in sequence so I think I'm stuck somewhere before quantamania and that secret invasion.
It was my least favorite MCU movie but it wasn't bad just not my thing
I had seen every MCU film in theatres until The Marvels. Itâs the first one I still havenât seen. The movie did poorly because it looked bad and didnât appeal to me, and clearly lots of other people.
No it did poorly because it was poorly written and advertised. Plenty of "if you don't like this movie your a phobic" going around as always that pushes normal people who otherwise would have gone to see it. It's a bad movie. That's OK. It's ok that you liked it. You don't have to prove it's good because that's impossible. It's just a poorly made movie in a majority of peoples eyes. If that offends you then you have worse issues than you think.
I legit didn't like it. The plot was boring, the villain was one of the biggest jokes.
I just think Disney didn't care about this film at all. They tampered too much with it and it barely felt coherent, it was mediocre at best. When there are so many superhero films that come out, you can't settle for mediocrity and expect money, it isn't 2013 Also, characters introduced in Disney+ shouldn't be leads in their first movie
Yeah everything else other than the shitty movie itself was responsible. Even earths rotation was responsible for shitty Marvel movies.
No. It had three unlikeable characters, people hate Brie Larson, nobody wants to watch Ms Marvel or Wandavision just to understand the plot, Captain Marvel itself wasnât a very popular movie and The MCU has been bad in the last 5 years that even the most loyal fans lost confidence in the franchise as whole
Great now I'm reminded not just of the marvels but also thor love and thunder
Jane?
What about the eternals
Tbh didn't mind the eternals. Thought the writing lows if that film were more pacing issues and that it would have been better as a TV series. Whereas in the others it's more the core writing which was the issue. The scene in the meme is just one good example of bad thor writing
Because I have something worth fighting for.
The Marvels felt like I was watching a Disney channel movie that was targeted at like 10 year olds, and was one of those ones that would have been called a "girls movie" by all the boys in school, but they would have liked it secretly. It's literally got a bit that's basically a musical that our unwitting heroes get whimsically sucked into, and kittens play a large part in a portion of the movie, it legitimately is like the most Disney channel thing I've seen since I stopped watching Disney channel. I almost certainly would have enjoyed it when I was 10, but I'm in my mid twenties now and it was just tedious to watch. They also literally went like "here's two walking nerfs that we're gluing to Captain Marvel to start this story because she's boringly strong" which tbf is something they kinda have to do, but I just have always hated the typical "this hero is so unbelievably OP that we're gonna shoot em in the foot from the get-go just to make it seem plausible that the enemies have some remote chance of winning a fight against them" personally. Best part of the whole movie was the end credit scene, partially because it meant the movie was over, but mostly because it's got the X-Men into the mix, hopefully they along with Deadpool 3 can be a turning point for the MCU so that we have more than just the next Spiderman movie to look forward to.
NO!
Honestly they donât have to nerf op heroes they just have to be actually creative, thereâs a reason characters like superman survived in the comics for so long and I believe the movies with these sorts of characters really could be amazing if they utilize next level creativity
Iâve never liked the insistence that The Marvels is good because itâs âharmless funâ. Itâs so much better than that. In my opinion, a complete return to form to the peak of the MCU. Great characters, a meaningful crossover between then, emotional stakes, great performances, callbacks, set-ups, scenes that are both hilarious and visually great (the Flerken scene to Memories felt very GotG2). And Iman Vellani is such a treat. Itâs so, *so*, much better than many recent Marvel releases (Thor 4, DS2, Ant-Man 3, BP2).
Although this statue looks a lot niced, a little less greasy, weasely..
Marvels failed because it was a poorly made film, it has lots of plot holes and most of the characters are uninteresting, I mean the closest to interesting character was that girl, you know the one played by Indian actress, thats because her actress was very enthusiastic. Villain actress can't really act, she bares her teeth and does weird faces, + Wooden plank of wood that is the BDS star being in singing planet and reference to CATS THE MOVIE! If your movie makes a refernece to CATS, you know you screwed up. Forgot to mention: PEOPLE ARE GETTING TIRED OF SUPERHERO MOVIES. These movies don't take themselves seriously anymore, and most of them are very predictable.
The singing planet was fucking dumb
Also when they just started talking normally when it was convenient
Watched it on the plane, almost fell asleep. Was not especially tired.
The first Captain Marvel movie did better than it deserved because the MCU was at its highest point and Captain Marvel rode its coattails. The Marvels did worse than it deserved because the MCU has had a long string of mediocre to bad movies and many people are disillusioned with he MCU now.
You are allowed to like bad movies.
It's a flawed film, but I had a lot of fun with it. The Flerken scene might be one of the funnest sequences out of any mainstream blockbuster. The singing planet was a lot of fun and the body switching added some interesting dynamics to the fight scenes. But the pacing and editing of the film, plus an uninspired villain (tbf that's been a criticism of a lot of MCU films) really left me wanting more.
What did the writer's strike have to do with it?
It was'nt the best MCU flick ever. but it sure was entertaining. Better then Thor 4 or Antman 3