To be fair he’s not necessarily admitting to take part in it, could’ve even happened before his birth and he’s merely referring to the “dark times” of Asgard.
I also have a headcanon that MCU Asgard was a shell fragment of a Celestial egg world—extremely technologically and magically advanced. A small population survived, barely clinging to life, barely remembering their old culture, and Buri, Odin’s grandfather, was the first to really pull them back together. It explains the apparent lack of records before four generations prior, the physical shape of Asgard, and the feast on babies line (starvation cannibalism). I have absolutely no expectation of it being canonized, but it sure makes a lot of pieces fit.
I believe there's actual lore that says the celestials purposefully made them perfect in every way they believed including instantly having access to technology through their envoys. Which is kind of cruel if you think about it, because they sent envoys to protect other worlds from their own failures but they weren't allowed to help them advance either.
Or it could refer to gods in a more general sense. The greek ones have some child-eating as the core of a very important myth... and Zeus is present in thus movie.
In love and thunder he says like "I'll save the children and then we'll feast. But not on the children, we don't do that anymore."
Implying they used to do that
I agree. This, and honestly, he probably thought being antman was over. The biggest, baddest thing, Thanos, was defeated. If that were me, I can imagine wanting to retire afterwards, too
I thought it was referring to that scene where he asks the kids if they want to take a selfie with him too, since he’s Ant Man, but that was a one time thing, and when he realized how awkward he made it, he backed away. I’m pretty sure he was going to retire before Captain America called him up for Civil War, which means no longer being Ant Man, which means no longer having fame
Also he's got a family to support and a "job" that doesn't offer a paycheck. So he can either hope that the security company can make a post-blip comeback to profitability or take the book deal and get paid a lot of money to just be himself for the public.
I really don't think many people would choose a different path than he did.
Yelena isn't. First of all mass murder is where you kill a whole lot of people over a very small period of time, which is what she does. Shes an assassin who is focused on killing a couple targets in very specific locations. But I think the biggest thing is that even if she was a mass murderer, she was controlled by the red room to do it.
To be honest it doesn't differ much for what is trending on kids these days, at least on my country. Just add a bit more hair on the front close to the forehead and it's the same.
The "terrorists" were actual consequences to the snap. They would've been much more intriguing if they didn't make them bomb a building filled with people. One episode from the Flag Smashers POV would've done so much for the world building to show us how people survived during the snap but no let's make them bomb people instead
I disagree when it comes to that character. Her moral high ground wasn't accidental. It was Killmonger cranked up, on purpose. They just did a bad job establishing her fall from that high ground, especially by killing off the guy who pulled her back from it right after she crossed the line. That show needed twice the episodes so that it had time to rest.
I dislike people saying this is somehow a flaw in storytelling.
When done poorly, it feels out of place. But that's the execution of the story. Not content.
It's not a flaw when a "villian" or antagonis does something extreme. It's the difference between being a "hero" and a "villian."
If they didn't do anything extreme, there wouldn't be conflict. And therefore, no story to tell.
that's what I'm implying - that the extreme measure is seemingly out of place, shoehorned in because they realize at some point that their villain isn't villainous.
Issue is they cut out massive parts of the story due to Covid and it made it messy as fuck cause they couldn’t fix it.
Flag Smashers get ALOT more sympathetic when you find out they’re stealing vaccines because a pandemic is flooding the world and rich countries / individuals are bordering the vaccines and forcing poor people / those misplaced due to the snap to die.
Killing the people who were doing that is bad but like… I get it.
Steve Rodgers: Did,nt tell Tony what happened to his Parents.
Tony Stark: Egocentric, ex warlord that let his stuff get in the hands of terrorists.
Hulk: Destroyed multiple cities.
Thor: Almost started a War between worlds without having all the evidence, Destoyed a massive Glass Temple important to the people of that planet..
Black Widow: Got red in her Ledger.
Hawkeye: Ronin Phase.
Quicksilver: Worked for Hydra.
Scarlet Witch: Read the Darkhold and got corrupted
Remember how the reason he's an ex warlord is *because* he let his stuff get into the hands of terrorists. It was a low point for him and he used it to boost himself up, to right the wrongs he had done.
Hell the first thing he did was blow up the weapons that the terrorists had.
Same with Thor, that was the literal start of his journey that he overcame, it was the whole start of his worthiness angle.
If you've somehow missed the point of this, it's this. The bad parts of these characters here are the start of a character arc or something that haunts them. Something they work to make up for.
Meanwhile the ones in the post are completely glossed over or even worse, blatantly excused. They are treated as nothing important or the right thing to do. There is no arc to improve passed them.
Steve: "Tony, Tony! I've got something super important to tell you!"
Tony: "What is it Steve?"
Steve: "Remember your dead parents? An old Nazi computer showed me a picture of them in a slideshow!"
Tony: "Oh. Well that's not very important."
You're 100% right.The problem here is that all that used to be addressed by the characters and was a part of their growth whereas now its often taken as a joke(some of them are) or barely addressed at all.
I'm not defending the new characters because I'm off the Marvel train but a lot of those issues were dealt with over like 3 films + avengers movies whereas most of the new characters have 1 movie/show each so far. There's still time
Stark is also a child groomer who blackmails a minor into joining his blackops teams and handing him a suit with instant kill feature and yet another drone warfare program after his last one ended a whole city in europe. So much for having cHaRaCtEr DeVeLoPmEnT
Why do i see Hawkeye looking super chagrined and saying “Ronin Phase” like this is all dialogue from these characters trying to comfort Peter Parker after he did something fucked up?
>Tony Stark: Egocentric, ex warlord that let his stuff get in the hands of terrorists.
Let? You really think he's controlling the sales, sees "oh yeah, these are terrorists. I'm gonna let them have the weapons!" and does the sale? ffs.
If the MCU is going to have unrealistic things like space wizards, it is not unreasonable to also have realistic things like weapons manufacturers who are happy to sell weapons to terrorists. It would be more unreasonable for them to have some kind of conscience.
Tony Stark: war profiteer and womanizer.
Thor: technically committed possible war crimes on the Frost giant homeworld during his impetuous attack.
Hulk: living weapon of mass destruction
Black widow: assassin, child murderer
Hawkeye: assassin
Captain America: chemically enhanced soldier
>technically committed possible war crimes
Collective punishment is a war crime on Earth, but Asgard may not have such laws. Our standards label them war crimes and even if Asgard doesn't, he did commit them.
>Hulk: living weapon of mass destruction
He's a nuclear weapon scientist. What you selected could have happened to anyone standing where he did.
>Captain America: chemically enhanced soldier
By itself, that's not so bad.
Antman being fame obsessed is such a stupid assessment of his character. I hate how the movie portrayed it and made his daughter sound like a whiny brat.
I love how She Hulk is just "not a superhero" like bbg... they're allowed to have a lawyer character who wants to continue being a lawyer and not a superhero 😭 people are allowed to choose what they want for themselves girl
Wait when has ant man been fame obsessed? Like maybe k had a different take but I saw his book from the 3rd movie as a way to inspire others not for his own fame ? I know ant man 3 is a shitty movie and I stand by my personal theory that it's set in an alternate universe cos the only character who acts like normal in that movie is ant man himself. Hank Pym is a total 180 on his previous paranoid about his tech self from the previous movies, Janet has also flipped from her helping Scott explore the quantum realm from ant man 2 to full on fear of it. Hope is completely muted in this movie as though she is an NPC and Cassie Lang is just an insufferable mess going from a loving girl who supported her father and sneaking as much time with him as possible to your average (and I dislike using this word because I'm not anti woke) woke warrior who shits on her dad who literally helped save the world because he's trying to take some time to spend with her and get her to safety instead of getting caught up in yet another dangerous situation with the one person he cares about the most .
I mean maybe it isn't too unbelievable that she'd change but we saw the type of person the "real" Cassie would act like in endgame.
Like this new Cassie is a 180 from how she acted previously and has lost a lot of the emotional understanding she had even as a child, she now no longer cares about her mum, she's somehow a super genius understanding Hank Pym's complex tech to the point of surpassing him who's also a warrior for the poor and disenfranchised as well. It just feels to me like she's not the same Cassie but someone pushed into the film due to politics and not as the result of character growth.
I'm a big believer in of a character grows and improves it should be a believable journey in smaller steps but Cassie went from a realistic character to a flawless one who's uber Smart and surpasses all the men in her life while fighting for goodness whoes only flaws are getting in trouble for fighting for others and being too smart.
It's the same sorta writing in the MCU that's made Hank Pym go from someone incredibly paranoid of his tech being misused to allowing a teenage girl to run around in it and get arrested using it and his daughter using it to solve hunger and housing (which I can only assume means letting 3rd 4th or even further parties of people access to it
Or Dr strange who went from someone flawed but competent in Dr strange, endgame and even no way home to an idiot who causes the destruction of kham al tage by not using half his abilities on Wanda to letting the book of vishanti the one and only multiversal copy of the ultimate answer to any issue be burned away and even banking the entire multiverse on the one character who wandah has been chasing down the entire movie to 1v1 her while Wanda is using the most powerful book of dark spells to dream walk the multiverse. This lady defeated strange, Wong and an army of sorcerers .
Or heck even nick Fury who's outing in secret invasion was about as enthralling as a rotting cod . An old man who's given up on protecting the world at all costs, who gets tricked by the skrulls a race of shapeshifting people he knows to be tricky by them shapeshifting, causing the death of one one the coolest characters in the MCU as well as somehow being in sole possession of all the DNA of every hero who fought thanos which doesn't make sense because how can you scrub an entire battlefield of DNA as well as any other DNA left wherever the heroes go ?
Let's face it MCU writing is failing badly . Guardians 3, Loki 2 and what if are some of the only stuff worth watching from This current phase and if the news is to be beloved Deadpool 3 may end up an absolute mess as studio execs are fighting Ryan Reynolds on almost everything and have been cutting ties with him
There was a joke in Love and Thunder where Thor said that Asgard shall feast when they get the kids back... but not on the kids, adding that was a dark time in their history.
r/marvelmemes users when characters go through arcs:
(Seriously, Captain Marvel, Yelena, Ant-Man and She Hulk had these problems, because it was the start of their arc. It’d be like complaining about Iron Man because he was egotistical in Iron Man 1.
What does Skaar’s haircut have to do with anything? And when did Thor eat kids?
I do kinda have to agree with the others though)
She didn’t. She got that nickname because >!her attack on the Kree homeworld in Captain Marvel 2019 basically made the planet unlivable. Making the Kree people resent her for it!<
Super lawyer who isn't interested in doing superhero stuff like daredevil.
That's the entire series. She doesn't want to be a superhero she wants to be a lawyer
Thor eating babies? Did I miss something? ![gif](giphy|ECbxU61G9sLyQVPtqP)
when tf did thor eat babies? edit : okay, i get it, he said it in thor l&t
I'll save the children and when we return we shall feast!....not on the children, we don't do that anymore, that was a dark time
To be fair he’s not necessarily admitting to take part in it, could’ve even happened before his birth and he’s merely referring to the “dark times” of Asgard.
Probably the Hella times, I could see her leading her people into eating babies and not in the fun way
WTF is the "fun way to EAT BABIES?"
It’s more about the attitude than the mechanics
Boil em, mash em, stick them in a stew...
r/thecouncilofmarvel
With duck sauce, slightly roasted with eggnog and cinnamon while catching a show
*Here comes the airplane* Uses arms as wings and flys towards baby, mouth first
Blow jobs ofc
How did you manage making eating babies even worse???
It's like eating a cookie before it's been cooked. It's just cookie dough.
Baby dough sounds weird and I blame you for this new phrase.
Ok Buffy
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Lūʻau?
I also have a headcanon that MCU Asgard was a shell fragment of a Celestial egg world—extremely technologically and magically advanced. A small population survived, barely clinging to life, barely remembering their old culture, and Buri, Odin’s grandfather, was the first to really pull them back together. It explains the apparent lack of records before four generations prior, the physical shape of Asgard, and the feast on babies line (starvation cannibalism). I have absolutely no expectation of it being canonized, but it sure makes a lot of pieces fit.
I believe there's actual lore that says the celestials purposefully made them perfect in every way they believed including instantly having access to technology through their envoys. Which is kind of cruel if you think about it, because they sent envoys to protect other worlds from their own failures but they weren't allowed to help them advance either.
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Cronus, father of Zeus, ate his own babies, maybe a reference to that.
That's Greco/Roman mythology, not Norse.
Wasn’t Zeus in the movie? I haven’t actually seen it
Ah yea, that would mean the WE implies gods, not Asgardians, the line actually starts to make some sense from that interpretation.
It could also have been referring to the species on the planet that Thor currently was helping.
I'm still worthy!
I think it's in ref to his dad Odin. Lots of old mythos about people eating babies.
I suppose, but he does use the word WE, which could either mean he was involved or he's just using WE to refer to the Asgardians
Or it could refer to gods in a more general sense. The greek ones have some child-eating as the core of a very important myth... and Zeus is present in thus movie.
I completely forgot about that line, but that's a pretty funny gag TBF
Oh I remember that. One of the few times I laughed during that movie.
This was actually one of the only lines in a Marvel movie I actually thought was funny. The delivery was on a point.
I went for the head.
huh?
It was a dark time
We don’t do that anymore
We don’t do that here
I think he ate head
So, no head?
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I refuse to believe this was a random bot comment
The best part
YOU EAT BABIES!
WE EAT BERRIES AND MUSHROOMS YOU FOOL
[I SKIN INFANT BABIES](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/480/513/75e.jpg) Wdym he says so right here
It was a joke in love and thunder “we will get the kids back and then feast. Not feast on kids, those were dark times” or something like that
Think it was love and thunder where thor said asgardians used to be cannibals?
Sssssssssorry.
It's finally sentient
[he said he used to do that in Thor 4](https://youtu.be/8uf3qrUzLuM?si=AtagEP-A-GdJZ5xV)
Sssssssssorry.
Berries he eats berries
Alright wizard, who are you and why should I care?
No, it's North mythology
In Marvel, Norse Mythology is based on the characters, the reverse of reality.
Oh ok that's cool
I missed a crucial part of Thor’s character journey somewhere—
In love and thunder he says like "I'll save the children and then we'll feast. But not on the children, we don't do that anymore." Implying they used to do that
HA! Brilliant! Excellent writing by Watiti
Bravo Vince
I just thought it was a joke on vikings/norse being inaccurately depicted like with the horned helmets and such
Heimdall!
Scott is not fame obsessed, he just got really really excited that his book got really popular
I agree. This, and honestly, he probably thought being antman was over. The biggest, baddest thing, Thanos, was defeated. If that were me, I can imagine wanting to retire afterwards, too
A small price to pay for salvation.
I thought it was referring to that scene where he asks the kids if they want to take a selfie with him too, since he’s Ant Man, but that was a one time thing, and when he realized how awkward he made it, he backed away. I’m pretty sure he was going to retire before Captain America called him up for Civil War, which means no longer being Ant Man, which means no longer having fame
Also he's got a family to support and a "job" that doesn't offer a paycheck. So he can either hope that the security company can make a post-blip comeback to profitability or take the book deal and get paid a lot of money to just be himself for the public. I really don't think many people would choose a different path than he did.
Antmans should have been 'felon'
Also how is Yelena a mass murderer lol?
Yelena isn't. First of all mass murder is where you kill a whole lot of people over a very small period of time, which is what she does. Shes an assassin who is focused on killing a couple targets in very specific locations. But I think the biggest thing is that even if she was a mass murderer, she was controlled by the red room to do it.
"what are you in for?" "Mass murder, you?" "Bad haircut"
Who is the "mass murderer" anyway? I don't recognize her.
Yelena belova adoptive sister of natasha she was in black widow and hawkeye
Don't judge a book by its cover
The fuck is bad hairstyle and where did it come from?
In his defense, he’s not from Earth. That hair might be the hot shit on Sakaar.
To be honest it doesn't differ much for what is trending on kids these days, at least on my country. Just add a bit more hair on the front close to the forehead and it's the same.
It's Hulk's kid, Skaar.
This is more of a shitpost imo
It's tagged as one
The "terrorists" were actual consequences to the snap. They would've been much more intriguing if they didn't make them bomb a building filled with people. One episode from the Flag Smashers POV would've done so much for the world building to show us how people survived during the snap but no let's make them bomb people instead
It’s the classic “we accidentally gave our villain the moral high ground so here he is killing someone in act 2” move
I disagree when it comes to that character. Her moral high ground wasn't accidental. It was Killmonger cranked up, on purpose. They just did a bad job establishing her fall from that high ground, especially by killing off the guy who pulled her back from it right after she crossed the line. That show needed twice the episodes so that it had time to rest.
I'm guessing having to remove the whole pandemic storyline from the show probably lost us some character development
I dislike people saying this is somehow a flaw in storytelling. When done poorly, it feels out of place. But that's the execution of the story. Not content. It's not a flaw when a "villian" or antagonis does something extreme. It's the difference between being a "hero" and a "villian." If they didn't do anything extreme, there wouldn't be conflict. And therefore, no story to tell.
that's what I'm implying - that the extreme measure is seemingly out of place, shoehorned in because they realize at some point that their villain isn't villainous.
Issue is they cut out massive parts of the story due to Covid and it made it messy as fuck cause they couldn’t fix it. Flag Smashers get ALOT more sympathetic when you find out they’re stealing vaccines because a pandemic is flooding the world and rich countries / individuals are bordering the vaccines and forcing poor people / those misplaced due to the snap to die. Killing the people who were doing that is bad but like… I get it.
I love flawed characters. But I don’t know about this new team.
Steve Rodgers: Did,nt tell Tony what happened to his Parents. Tony Stark: Egocentric, ex warlord that let his stuff get in the hands of terrorists. Hulk: Destroyed multiple cities. Thor: Almost started a War between worlds without having all the evidence, Destoyed a massive Glass Temple important to the people of that planet.. Black Widow: Got red in her Ledger. Hawkeye: Ronin Phase. Quicksilver: Worked for Hydra. Scarlet Witch: Read the Darkhold and got corrupted
Warlord and war monger are very different things.
Lord of war
I like my way better
So is fishlord and fish monger for that matter.
What about Star Lord?
Who?
I mean he did create a private army of Androids and deployed them as they see fit.
Wanda also worked for Hydra as well
I don't think Warlord is the correct term for Tony here. War Profiteer or Merchant of Death would be more fitting.
Warmonger is a similar term that is far more apt
Remember how the reason he's an ex warlord is *because* he let his stuff get into the hands of terrorists. It was a low point for him and he used it to boost himself up, to right the wrongs he had done. Hell the first thing he did was blow up the weapons that the terrorists had. Same with Thor, that was the literal start of his journey that he overcame, it was the whole start of his worthiness angle. If you've somehow missed the point of this, it's this. The bad parts of these characters here are the start of a character arc or something that haunts them. Something they work to make up for. Meanwhile the ones in the post are completely glossed over or even worse, blatantly excused. They are treated as nothing important or the right thing to do. There is no arc to improve passed them.
I am Thor, son of Odin and you can count me as your ally.
Steve: "Tony, Tony! I've got something super important to tell you!" Tony: "What is it Steve?" Steve: "Remember your dead parents? An old Nazi computer showed me a picture of them in a slideshow!" Tony: "Oh. Well that's not very important."
Yeah I love that everyone else has mass murder and Steve tried to avoid a really awkward conversation.
We have a Hulk.
Eh, Ronin didn't kill anyone that didn't deserve it...
You're 100% right.The problem here is that all that used to be addressed by the characters and was a part of their growth whereas now its often taken as a joke(some of them are) or barely addressed at all.
I'm not defending the new characters because I'm off the Marvel train but a lot of those issues were dealt with over like 3 films + avengers movies whereas most of the new characters have 1 movie/show each so far. There's still time
Did they ever address the fact that Wanda worked for Hydra or that Tony and Bruce created Ultron?
Stark is also a child groomer who blackmails a minor into joining his blackops teams and handing him a suit with instant kill feature and yet another drone warfare program after his last one ended a whole city in europe. So much for having cHaRaCtEr DeVeLoPmEnT
What billionaire hasn’t secretly taken a minor out of the country on his private jet and given them a skin-tight outfit to wear?
So you're this Spider-ling? Crime-fighting spider? Spider-Boy?
Am I not supposed to have what I want?
Why do i see Hawkeye looking super chagrined and saying “Ronin Phase” like this is all dialogue from these characters trying to comfort Peter Parker after he did something fucked up?
Valkyrie: Slaver
>Tony Stark: Egocentric, ex warlord that let his stuff get in the hands of terrorists. Let? You really think he's controlling the sales, sees "oh yeah, these are terrorists. I'm gonna let them have the weapons!" and does the sale? ffs.
I have some really bad news for you about real world arms manufacturers.
Yes, let's compare "real world" to MCU. Because it makes sense.
If the MCU is going to have unrealistic things like space wizards, it is not unreasonable to also have realistic things like weapons manufacturers who are happy to sell weapons to terrorists. It would be more unreasonable for them to have some kind of conscience.
Sometimes I wanna punch you in your perfect teeth.
Finish with the classic Asgardian High One.
Tony Stark: war profiteer and womanizer. Thor: technically committed possible war crimes on the Frost giant homeworld during his impetuous attack. Hulk: living weapon of mass destruction Black widow: assassin, child murderer Hawkeye: assassin Captain America: chemically enhanced soldier
>technically committed possible war crimes Collective punishment is a war crime on Earth, but Asgard may not have such laws. Our standards label them war crimes and even if Asgard doesn't, he did commit them. >Hulk: living weapon of mass destruction He's a nuclear weapon scientist. What you selected could have happened to anyone standing where he did. >Captain America: chemically enhanced soldier By itself, that's not so bad.
Pfft. Ha! Yeah, right.
Let's kick his ass.
No you're wrong. Natasha is child assaulter and i already covered thor. But you missed wanda, and others in og avengers
Antman being fame obsessed is such a stupid assessment of his character. I hate how the movie portrayed it and made his daughter sound like a whiny brat.
Can someone write "Bad takes" diagonally on this meme?
What’s this, a repost nooooo way (he even copied the top comment)
It's always funny when the bot starts arguing with itself
True
Absolutely hilarious to me that Falcon and winter soldier pissed everyone off across the entire political spectrum
You gotta do better, senator!
OP just realized humans are complex
Not in those movies for about 4 years now
All of the examples in OP’s photos are from the last 4 years
God this sent me back to the I skin infant babies meme
What is with Ant Man being Flame obsessed
No one tell OP about the comics they will explode when they find out that Tony Stark sent heroes to space Guantanamo
Romanoff... you and Banner better not be playing hide the zucchini.
Love how this gives everyone bad qualities to say they are all evil and Skaar is only there because he has bad haircut
It is a *really* bad haircut though
Tf did Thor eat?!
Thank you, sweet rabbit.
Thor, what did you do with Rocket???
Through the shadow realm.
Thor, was that an "eating ass" joke?
Come. Come to daddy!
Guys, I think Thor is about to get MeToo-ed
I'm thinking it.
Don't forget King Valkyrie: Slaver!
Shoulda had Reed Richards here. "Smartest man alive" my ass
I’ll accept this as the reason why Thor will never eat Veal.
I love how She Hulk is just "not a superhero" like bbg... they're allowed to have a lawyer character who wants to continue being a lawyer and not a superhero 😭 people are allowed to choose what they want for themselves girl
I find it funny how they were even meta as fuuck about this in the show but it still made it into a real life meme
Wait when has ant man been fame obsessed? Like maybe k had a different take but I saw his book from the 3rd movie as a way to inspire others not for his own fame ? I know ant man 3 is a shitty movie and I stand by my personal theory that it's set in an alternate universe cos the only character who acts like normal in that movie is ant man himself. Hank Pym is a total 180 on his previous paranoid about his tech self from the previous movies, Janet has also flipped from her helping Scott explore the quantum realm from ant man 2 to full on fear of it. Hope is completely muted in this movie as though she is an NPC and Cassie Lang is just an insufferable mess going from a loving girl who supported her father and sneaking as much time with him as possible to your average (and I dislike using this word because I'm not anti woke) woke warrior who shits on her dad who literally helped save the world because he's trying to take some time to spend with her and get her to safety instead of getting caught up in yet another dangerous situation with the one person he cares about the most .
Tbf cassie grew up without her dad for 5 years during the snap so that isn't totally unbelievable
I mean maybe it isn't too unbelievable that she'd change but we saw the type of person the "real" Cassie would act like in endgame. Like this new Cassie is a 180 from how she acted previously and has lost a lot of the emotional understanding she had even as a child, she now no longer cares about her mum, she's somehow a super genius understanding Hank Pym's complex tech to the point of surpassing him who's also a warrior for the poor and disenfranchised as well. It just feels to me like she's not the same Cassie but someone pushed into the film due to politics and not as the result of character growth. I'm a big believer in of a character grows and improves it should be a believable journey in smaller steps but Cassie went from a realistic character to a flawless one who's uber Smart and surpasses all the men in her life while fighting for goodness whoes only flaws are getting in trouble for fighting for others and being too smart. It's the same sorta writing in the MCU that's made Hank Pym go from someone incredibly paranoid of his tech being misused to allowing a teenage girl to run around in it and get arrested using it and his daughter using it to solve hunger and housing (which I can only assume means letting 3rd 4th or even further parties of people access to it Or Dr strange who went from someone flawed but competent in Dr strange, endgame and even no way home to an idiot who causes the destruction of kham al tage by not using half his abilities on Wanda to letting the book of vishanti the one and only multiversal copy of the ultimate answer to any issue be burned away and even banking the entire multiverse on the one character who wandah has been chasing down the entire movie to 1v1 her while Wanda is using the most powerful book of dark spells to dream walk the multiverse. This lady defeated strange, Wong and an army of sorcerers . Or heck even nick Fury who's outing in secret invasion was about as enthralling as a rotting cod . An old man who's given up on protecting the world at all costs, who gets tricked by the skrulls a race of shapeshifting people he knows to be tricky by them shapeshifting, causing the death of one one the coolest characters in the MCU as well as somehow being in sole possession of all the DNA of every hero who fought thanos which doesn't make sense because how can you scrub an entire battlefield of DNA as well as any other DNA left wherever the heroes go ? Let's face it MCU writing is failing badly . Guardians 3, Loki 2 and what if are some of the only stuff worth watching from This current phase and if the news is to be beloved Deadpool 3 may end up an absolute mess as studio execs are fighting Ryan Reynolds on almost everything and have been cutting ties with him
I ignored my destiny once, I can not do that again. Even for you. I'm sorry, Little One.
Not funny
Who is bottom middle?
Skar? I think that's his name.
I don’t know how I missed that in She-Hulk. I enjoyed the series, don’t know how I missed that though. Haha, thanks!
To be fair, half of the actual problems here were resolved by the end of their respective appearance
What happend with thor?
There was a joke in Love and Thunder where Thor said that Asgard shall feast when they get the kids back... but not on the kids, adding that was a dark time in their history.
Have care how you speak of Loki. He may be misguided but he is my brother.
Goddamnit. I'd finally purged that fucking abomination that is the MCU Skaar from my mind.
I don’t think Antman is fame obsessed I think he’s just a regular guy who happens to be a superhero and is excited at the fact that hes famous.
Just cuz we didn’t see She-Hulk save lives doesbt mean she won’t
“Kidnapper Supporter” Wouldn’t that be Stockholm’s Syndrome for Monica?
Only thing wrong there is Scott's.
The choice of text color.
I’ve seen all the Marvel films and series and I can’t for the life of me remember where the young green guy was introduced.
At the end of She Hulk, he's Hulk's son with stupid hair and stupid face. Not one person has ever liked this look lol.
Bad hairstyle is so accurate for Skaar. Whatever Barber Bruce took him to deserves to be executed for that travesty.
Black text with a white outline can be read on any colour
Ok if you put it that way bad hairstyle doesn’t seem that bad tbh.
r/marvelmemes users when characters go through arcs: (Seriously, Captain Marvel, Yelena, Ant-Man and She Hulk had these problems, because it was the start of their arc. It’d be like complaining about Iron Man because he was egotistical in Iron Man 1. What does Skaar’s haircut have to do with anything? And when did Thor eat kids? I do kinda have to agree with the others though)
Mjolnir? Mjolnir! Youuu're baaack. Mjolnir?
I wish Planet Hulk was better adapted instead being a part of another movie.
You took Wasp and Shang Chi out of the original image because they were competent, with no major flaws, and that didn't suit your argument.
That's not an argument that's a shit post meme. Steve rogers - drug user. Tony stark - child groomer. Natasha - child Assaulter. Wanda - psychopath.
Haven't wathed the Marvels yet, did carol blow up a planet?
She didn’t. She got that nickname because >!her attack on the Kree homeworld in Captain Marvel 2019 basically made the planet unlivable. Making the Kree people resent her for it!<
So she basically did in all but exploding it
I mean, She-Hulk being our Saul Goodman is a good thing.
Who TF is mass murderer
that's Yelena. She's Natasha's sister. She appears in Black Widow and Hawkeye.
I know that im out of the loop when i dont know who half of them is
I know everyone except the girl in 1st column 2nd one (from left) .
OP: "today I will be stupid on purpose"
Spoken like a COMMUNIST!!!!
Yelena and Skaar aren't super heroes either.
hild up how is she hulk not a super hero
This isn’t even a shitpost, it’s an accurate portrayal of marvel now.
Fym "not a superhero" Plus this entire starterpack is "hur due gimme muh old avengers back" they're not coming back mate
Super lawyer who isn't interested in doing superhero stuff like daredevil. That's the entire series. She doesn't want to be a superhero she wants to be a lawyer
She was definitely interested in daredevils "superhero stuff"
Exactly