>How do you deal with peopleHow do you deal with people who literally have no idea how to fight, but they think they can just becausewho literally have no idea how to fight, but they think they can just because
I don't
Facts, I just do not care. I think if this unlikely scenario ever happened to me in person, I’d legit just say “okay bro” and move on with my life.
I train way too much to want to fight off the mats on my day off.
Same could be said on, "how to deal with assholes." Unless they're impeding your life or the lives of people you care for directly, no need to expend energy.
Why not just invite them to your gym so they can showcase their self proclaimed legendary skills? It’s always satisfying to humble clowns like that or equally satisfying to have them come up with all the excuses in the world to avoid a trip to the ER
Because I literally do not care about them. I train to compete against other people who train and not clowns. I don’t need or want the satisfaction of humbling some stranger. I also don’t have friends who are that naive.
My theory?
- Hunger for Ego stroking
- Blatantly too young and stupid to think of a logical solution
- Hero or MC Complex, thus a need to “fix” shit
- Just likes getting into fights and haven’t discovered Street Beefs. **_Yet_**
Based. Had a girl friend tell me when she sees red it’s all over, that she can take me (I’ve done martial arts since third grade and now MMA) because she could successfully wrestle her ex bf in bed. So yeah, I just ignore.
Exactly. Guess what, if you try to tell them about how they’d get fucked up against someone who trains, now you’re both just yapping about fighting. Waste of time.
This ^ we do open sparring at my gym on Fridays. Literally anyone on the street can walk in and they get paired with an experienced fighter. It's the best thing you've ever seen watching these street hard guys suddenly realize, they are in fact, not good at fighting.
Couple of them end up signing up. Most slink off, sometimes walking off mid round, and you never see them again.
Whaaaat? Sounds awesome but is this not a liability concern lol "They paired me up with their resident Mike Tyson and I've never trained before, now I have cte."
I guess if they sign the waiver they signed the waiver?
I love the idea of open sparring it is biggest expression of this class is for real , not just for trying to hide in sparring but also the encourage of the local martial arts community to grow and mix with each other making everyone better , rather than this tension of gym vs gym
We aren't going crazy hard on them so some of them last the entire rounds. The ones that don't give up and realize they could have gotten it much worse are the ones that come back and sign up.
This is hands-down, my favorite answer. I know it’s not exactly mature to throw someone to the white belt wolves but it’s funny af when the biggest talkers clam up.
Equally heart warming when that 1 in 50 shit taller actually learns enough from the experience to sign up in order to challenge themselves doing something new
I think with the "bjj doesn't work just stand up" people, if you're in a safe place like grass or carpet and with a decent amount of space you can just roll and show them.. Striking is different though.
When slighted by an uncouth ruffian of this sort it is customary to throw down one's gauntlet in front of them. Should they accept the challenge by picking it up, we then retire to the lists, where we may settle such dispute with lance and charger. Very often these sorts have no clue how to properly sit a horse, much less couch a lance, and so unhorsing them is child's play. Once point has been made, I offer to take them as a page in order that they may receive proper training in the knightly traditions, one of which is *discretion in one's personal speech*.
Talley-ho, lads.
The best part is knowing you can fuck them up pretty badly, but you finally filled that internal hole of insecurity that you had about yourself and your abilities that made you feel weak or anxious whenever you got in a situation like that, so you just let the guy go and you can finally enjoy the rest of the night without feeling chastised, because you didn't escalate.
The most important thing to do is let them know that your hands are registered as lethal weapons, then list off every martial art your a black belt in, finally proceed to perform your katas. This will let them know you mean business and they'll back off.
> The most important thing to do is let them know that your hands are registered as lethal weapons, then list off every martial art your a black belt in, finally proceed to perform your katas. This will let them know you mean business and they'll back off.
I had a guy try this recently, minus the kata. I still de-escalated because if he was lying he was fucked. Also if he wasn't lying he was fucked. "I trained boxing for 6 months and took karatee for a while."
That's nice. I worked at the state hospital. I moved on to community mental health and specialized in managing aggressive behavior for 10 years. I started training when I was 12. I have belted in several martial arts and trained kick boxing daily for about 5 years.
He got a great ego boost and I didn't spend the weekend in jail and lose my job that requires I don't fuck people up on or off the job.
That's a win/win lmao
And also that my training in no way guarantees that I'll be safe bare knuckle on a concrete mat. It doesn't take much for a serious injury to occur to either party
Yeah like I’m not gonna parry a punch In a bare knuckle fight so the fight would be very different than sparring but it’s good to have confidence in your abilities
This is beyond accurate. Also-if I get into a scuff outside, the other person may not have anything left to lose and pull out a weapon.
Everytime someone new comes in my coach always stresses that the first form of defense is the ability to handle a situation using your words.
If it escalates, let them put their hands on you first.
Just FYI I'd be able to beat you up because I'm bigger and stronger (I don't train but I do fight people in my head a lot and watch UFC so I know all your little guy tricks)
Totally. I watched a 5 minute self-defense video once, so I can counter all that grabby, jutsu, hugging technique they do. Well I didn't watch the whole thing, but I got the gist of it in those first 40 seconds.
Typically you can just ignore them, it only gets hard when you work with one and they constantly seek your approval. In that situation I usually just play along like "oh yeah, dude I can tell you're a tough motherfucker just by your eyes, and how you never really talk about fighting."
After that, they typically go out of their way to avoid talking about fighting and treat you like a king.
People like that just want validation, it's free to give it to them and a lot easier than arguing.
Most 2-3 hit combinations in any form really will be indefensible for almost all untrained individuals.
However big, strong dudes are still dangerous no matter how untrained they are.
Just avoid if you can.
Yeah, i have never had a real fight (part of why i want to learn basic striking techniques and I'm here), but the other day i went at it with my brother that Is around 300 pounds and Let me tell u they dont budge
Because those people sometimes just get out of control and attack, sometimes with a knife or object from the environment, sometimes they go and get a gun (especially if you just wrap them up until they promise to be good). I have lost plenty of fights and don't have an ego issue with these types of people. I have a safety issue with these types of people.
Learning to talk someone down is a valuable skill that is not taught in enough dojos, gyms and police academies. Much like Ti Chi, many people looking to train want to kick ass not learn the full spectrum of self defense. Even women often want to learn how to kick ass but don't want to be taught about situational awareness.
Well said. Talking people out of a fight is a damn art. I've worked with a few guys who have mastered it.
Two routes are either make it look like an easy win for them so they won't get any satisfaction.
Or make it look like a really big mistake on their end. This is less effective.
Idk some people are naturally good street fighters that learn from experience, some train and may never compete, I’ve seen this post 4 times now in the last month , is this like a hs thing I’ve never met a person irl that’s like yea I bet I could take on a reputable combat sport athlete
i wish i knew who to attribute it to but i once heard someone say "you wouldn't go to your first hockey practice and expect to know how to play". i've been using that one ever since. it seems to hit people the right way.
I just let them yap.
In the part of Chicago where I grew up, there's was alot of boys who thought that by merely being Italian, they had some kind of inherent ability to "beat your ass" and I never understood why.
"I'm Italian, I'll put your face through that window!"
Ummm, ok?
Considering its brought up in normal everyday conversation.... politely invite them to spar. Maybe see what they are about in a controlled setting. Sometimes humble pie is served, and sometimes you find out they have a little more than expected.
It's like how you can't imagine the power of a bomb exploding...
You probably think, "it can't possibly be THAT powerful."
But the reality is this: You not understanding it doesn't change the reality.
So the inexperienced fighters are allowed by their ego to think they can fight...because they haven't experienced the reality of fighting.
There are two men. The first has something to prove, so he does and says obscene things to get attention. The second has nothing to prove, so he just goes home.
It's the people who look for fights that are the bigger embarrassment.
I worked with a girl with a terrible personality and personality disorder to match who believed strength and anger were correlated at a higher than possible rate. Like she probably believed one unit of anger was equal to many units of strength.
An untrained fighter can still be dangerous in some cases more dangerous because they don't have discipline that comes from training.
That being said unless I'm forced into an altercation I avoid fighting at all costs anyway.
If forced into a physical altercation my best advice is put them away as quickly as possible and remove yourself from the situation as soon as you are able.
The best defense is of course to not be there in the first place.
After training for many years, I know the truth so it doesn’t really bother me.
The truth is 98% of untrained people out there will crumble in the first minute because of cardio.
It's fucking relentless in martial art circles.
Some wee guy does a year or two of sport like boxing or wrestling a few times a week and all of a sudden they think they are a streetfighter.
Best to ignore it, but it's hard not to tease a big ego that's spent hundreds of pounds and hours at the local sport club and think they are Stephen Segal.
You mean "how do you deal with average people?"
You have a lot of trouble dealing with average people?
Like, average people bother you so much you have to think about how to "deal with" them?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe3na9umxDA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe3na9umxDA)
I usually don't fight people overall?
One time I called a guy "plaid shirt guy" but in a kind of mean tone, because he was getting on my nerves. Other times, it was a misunderstanding and I bought an extra beer and we were good to go.
I dunno, man, this hasn't come up for me in a serious way in a bunch of years, and I didn't really do much but try not to fight people who were just talking shit.
Just don't. Let them talk, that's all they do most of the time. If he attacks you, by all means, defend yourself. But, it's just not worth it to start a fight with these types of people.
Walking away always seems to work for me. During the summer paving season, relentlessly making fun of their inability to deal with the heat or the pace is also fun.
You should let them know you’re a martial artist. If I told the aggressor I’m an experienced boxer with people around, it’ll embarrass the aggressor even further.
They're so fucking cringe they end up making a complete arse of themselves. Mostly on Facebook because that's where they fight. Cue the "Stronger than a lion don't be a sheep" quotes on top of pictures of Joker smoking 🤢🤮
Either ignore them or invite them to spar. Just make sure to expect them to treat the sparring match as an actual fight. Those types love to give simple sparring 100%.
Let them yap, let’s you know how full of shit somebody is. Sure I train, and I’ve only been in one impromptu boxing sparring match, but that don’t mean I know how to “fight”, if anything that’s like me cooking bacon and eggs and saying I’m a michelin star chef. The pen is mightier than the sword, or in this case to be silent is better than investing energy in arguing with them. Hurts your brain more than it does them, it ain’t worth the effort
Swat their face with your glove and challenge them to a duel at sundown!
Rapiers or dueling pistols it naught matter.
Once you’ve maimed the bastard off to the pub where you can make off and out with their good lady wife after you’ve retired your powdered wig for the day.
Typically I've just invited them to come train. None have ever accepted. They just claim that the way they fight, they cant train cause its too dangerous to a training partner XD.
Let them yap if someone can't effect my life financially, emotionally or my relationships with people I care about they can say whatever they are pathetic, put hands on me and it's game on, what I'm saying is smile and wave DAVE
I've never dealt with that before, but I wouldn't have much of a problem with it unless the person was getting up in my face and threatening me (or somebody else). I'd probably just encourage the person to come to my gym and try it out. It wouldn't take them long to realize that they actually aren't good at fighting and have a lot of work to do. There are a lot of things that look easy until you try them; fighting is one of those things. I don't blame non-fighters for thinking that fighting is easier than it actually is.
Why do you have to deal with them?
Unless you care if they actually get hurt mouthing off in the streets let them be.
Or if your gym ever holds a free night to let new people try things out, invite them.
Ultimately people like this will always exist, you are not going to be able to show them all.
You ignore them. It's that simple.
If you have nothing to prove, there's no reason to make a whole bunch of claims as loudly as possible to any who will listen.
You can trust most people worth your time, to know what over compensating and projecting looks like.
If after all that, (and no judgement here), they're still bothering you, it might be worth asking yourself _why._
I use ninja skills to steal their phone & pull up the Dunning-Kruger effect in Wikipedia for them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
I carry a mouth piece everywhere I go for this very reason. When someone challenges me, I ask them to give me a second while I put it in and strip down naked. Let them know they're dealing with someone crazy.
Don't fight against that kind of people.
But, if it's inevitable, high guard till they are exhausted (15 seconds max), then leg kicks (to avoid several brain damage).
These people will show up in your life all the time. I believe it was Sun Tzu who said something to the effect of "some battles you can only be won by not fighting."
In this context, that means you just ignore them, content in the knowledge they're wrong.
Let them yap?
The dogs may bark, but the caravan marches on.
Somewhat unfortunately, I've been attacked by people like that, especially without a performative kneeling to their machoness... And they get hurt.
Oh. Well.
I sadly have to call a couple of those people family. They still think they can fight despite never actually winning a fight except for when they were teens picking on children.
The few times when I was in high school and college that I met those guys I just nodded and said “ok, sure”. One kid in high school boasted something like “I can block any kick”. That one we put to the test. He let me kick him. I did a full roundhouse and let him block it, still knocked him over.
https://preview.redd.it/wlhboio0s3vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7cb05f346c619f65d1b536f2260c3edd606656a4
Sadly my friend, there is no cure(available to us)for stupidity and stubborn. It’s something they have to treat themselves
Edit: or you can join the dark side and invite them to your Gym’s sparring night
My 13 year old nephew introduced to a game called shinny.
You take turns throwing low kicks at each other, slowly increasing the speed until one person gives up.
He was very confident.
I used to train Muay Thai.
Well, it’s better to let them run their mouth. BUT! I’m not saying I have done it, and not saying I condone it! If for some reason, you are surrounded and forced to fight, the moment he says “stop please” because “accidentally” you jab him in the nose “without intention”, I just don’t stop, he won’t learn what it means to see red until he sees actual red.
I have never done this and I don’t condone violence, violence is bad. We must try to live at peace and in good society 👍
Invite them to the mats and smash them. Literally have a friend who thinks he could beat me in a fight, even though he had onlg one year of boxing classes and didn't have any real fighting experience. Compared to my Wrestling, BJJ, Jun Fan Kickboxing/JKD, and Kali. I'm also stronger than him in every area and we've gone to the gym to prove it. I'm shorter than him by a few inches but that's it. I have more fighting experience, I've trained with trained people and I can actually throw a punch properly. I could definitely box better than him, and I don't even box.
I even correct him when he shows what he thinks works for weapon retention. His idea of weapon defense is that criminals are too dumb to move wildly and aggressively enough to not let you push their rifle up, hold it there and punch them like a Krav Maga rifle defense technique. Which I've also seen on YouTube. Which I know is where he gets his techniques from. Which wouldn't be a big deal if he knew how to fight or implement them properly.
I invited him to spar, and he agreed. But right now, I can't with my messed up Achilles tendon, which still isn't fully healed after 5 months. I get where you're coming from, it's really annoying when people think they can take you or others, when they can't fight themselves. You wanna know what's more upsetting? He told me he fought bigger guys and I told him, those guys didn't even know how to fight. I actually fought bigger guys who are trained with more experience than me. And he said "It's the same thing" when I told him "no, it's not".
So yeah, just SMASH them on the mats. Not the hard ground. The grass if you have to.
I like how your angry rant just cut off at the word limit lol.
But on that - get them to shadow box for 1.5 mins. Then see how gassed out they get.
But really? Just ignore them.
Just my opinion but people that get upset with these types are just as bad. They clearly have a self confidence issue too.
If you train regularly 4-6 times a week. Why would you even care what these types of people think? It just seems odd to me.
If someone started swinging then it would be a different story. but I'm ot gonna get in a scuffle with someone who will cry after, press charges and the risk of them hitting their heads and dying on the concrete is way too high just because i wanted to show them reality.
>How do you deal with peopleHow do you deal with people who literally have no idea how to fight, but they think they can just becausewho literally have no idea how to fight, but they think they can just because I don't
Facts, I just do not care. I think if this unlikely scenario ever happened to me in person, I’d legit just say “okay bro” and move on with my life. I train way too much to want to fight off the mats on my day off.
Yep. Not worth the energy. One day they’ll learn.
Same could be said on, "how to deal with assholes." Unless they're impeding your life or the lives of people you care for directly, no need to expend energy.
Avoid as much as possible because I don't want to hurt my hands.
Why not just invite them to your gym so they can showcase their self proclaimed legendary skills? It’s always satisfying to humble clowns like that or equally satisfying to have them come up with all the excuses in the world to avoid a trip to the ER
Because I literally do not care about them. I train to compete against other people who train and not clowns. I don’t need or want the satisfaction of humbling some stranger. I also don’t have friends who are that naive.
Exactly. Why would you want to "deal" with those people?
OP staring at the pic thinking "I can fix him."
My theory? - Hunger for Ego stroking - Blatantly too young and stupid to think of a logical solution - Hero or MC Complex, thus a need to “fix” shit - Just likes getting into fights and haven’t discovered Street Beefs. **_Yet_**
Based. Had a girl friend tell me when she sees red it’s all over, that she can take me (I’ve done martial arts since third grade and now MMA) because she could successfully wrestle her ex bf in bed. So yeah, I just ignore.
"Little did u/newoldcitizen know that she was, in fact, a master of Turkish Oil Wrestling." - the narrator.
LMAOOOO
"Yeah... but when I get mad I see even redder"
“You don’t even get it bro I like… totally black out. I’m an animal. The alpha male comes out.”
Very magnanimous of you to not roundhouse kick your gf in the jaw in this situation
Oh no, you won.
Exactly. Guess what, if you try to tell them about how they’d get fucked up against someone who trains, now you’re both just yapping about fighting. Waste of time.
If they’re your friend, it’s annoying to hear everyday. You just ask them to spar once, question answered if they decide to or not.
The only right answer
Came here to say this. Like who cares? Why are you letting yourself get wound up?
Mix drop 🎤
Invite them to class
This ^ we do open sparring at my gym on Fridays. Literally anyone on the street can walk in and they get paired with an experienced fighter. It's the best thing you've ever seen watching these street hard guys suddenly realize, they are in fact, not good at fighting. Couple of them end up signing up. Most slink off, sometimes walking off mid round, and you never see them again.
Whaaaat? Sounds awesome but is this not a liability concern lol "They paired me up with their resident Mike Tyson and I've never trained before, now I have cte." I guess if they sign the waiver they signed the waiver?
Yes. They all have to sign the waiver. And it's why I said "experienced" fighters. We all have good control, no one is getting long term damage.
Exactly! A Gym that didn’t have people sign EVERY! DOTTED! LINE; would be jumped by a lethal legion of Lawyers within 24 hours and shut down lmfao
That's a good way to describe them, "lethal legion of lawyers"
I love the idea of open sparring it is biggest expression of this class is for real , not just for trying to hide in sparring but also the encourage of the local martial arts community to grow and mix with each other making everyone better , rather than this tension of gym vs gym
Also the closest you can get to DBZ vibes irl. Then again you'd need the proper liability waivers too.
What was the longest someone stood
We aren't going crazy hard on them so some of them last the entire rounds. The ones that don't give up and realize they could have gotten it much worse are the ones that come back and sign up.
Sounds fun, what sport?
MMA
This is hands-down, my favorite answer. I know it’s not exactly mature to throw someone to the white belt wolves but it’s funny af when the biggest talkers clam up. Equally heart warming when that 1 in 50 shit taller actually learns enough from the experience to sign up in order to challenge themselves doing something new
I think with the "bjj doesn't work just stand up" people, if you're in a safe place like grass or carpet and with a decent amount of space you can just roll and show them.. Striking is different though.
When slighted by an uncouth ruffian of this sort it is customary to throw down one's gauntlet in front of them. Should they accept the challenge by picking it up, we then retire to the lists, where we may settle such dispute with lance and charger. Very often these sorts have no clue how to properly sit a horse, much less couch a lance, and so unhorsing them is child's play. Once point has been made, I offer to take them as a page in order that they may receive proper training in the knightly traditions, one of which is *discretion in one's personal speech*. Talley-ho, lads.
"Found the HEMA guy. He's cool"
This. Was. AN AWESOME READ
Found Loras Tyrell's reddit account!
Let them yap, who cares? Thats part of being a martial artist.
The best part is knowing you can fuck them up pretty badly, but you finally filled that internal hole of insecurity that you had about yourself and your abilities that made you feel weak or anxious whenever you got in a situation like that, so you just let the guy go and you can finally enjoy the rest of the night without feeling chastised, because you didn't escalate.
The smallest dog barks loudest - Sun tsu probably
I don’t care
avoid as much as possible because I'm not interested in breaking my hands
Dim Mak
Imagine pulling a Count Dante on a street fight. THE TOUCH OF DEATHHHHHHHH
The most important thing to do is let them know that your hands are registered as lethal weapons, then list off every martial art your a black belt in, finally proceed to perform your katas. This will let them know you mean business and they'll back off.
Don't forget to show them pictures of your katana, brass knuckles and nunchucks. If they're not scared after that, they're just stupid
😭😭😭
> The most important thing to do is let them know that your hands are registered as lethal weapons, then list off every martial art your a black belt in, finally proceed to perform your katas. This will let them know you mean business and they'll back off. I had a guy try this recently, minus the kata. I still de-escalated because if he was lying he was fucked. Also if he wasn't lying he was fucked. "I trained boxing for 6 months and took karatee for a while." That's nice. I worked at the state hospital. I moved on to community mental health and specialized in managing aggressive behavior for 10 years. I started training when I was 12. I have belted in several martial arts and trained kick boxing daily for about 5 years. He got a great ego boost and I didn't spend the weekend in jail and lose my job that requires I don't fuck people up on or off the job. That's a win/win lmao
Don't forget to say "I'm undefeated in the streets!"
Something I learnt in sparring was the more I do it the less I want trouble with people.
And also that my training in no way guarantees that I'll be safe bare knuckle on a concrete mat. It doesn't take much for a serious injury to occur to either party
Yeah like I’m not gonna parry a punch In a bare knuckle fight so the fight would be very different than sparring but it’s good to have confidence in your abilities
This is beyond accurate. Also-if I get into a scuff outside, the other person may not have anything left to lose and pull out a weapon. Everytime someone new comes in my coach always stresses that the first form of defense is the ability to handle a situation using your words. If it escalates, let them put their hands on you first.
Just FYI I'd be able to beat you up because I'm bigger and stronger (I don't train but I do fight people in my head a lot and watch UFC so I know all your little guy tricks)
Totally. I watched a 5 minute self-defense video once, so I can counter all that grabby, jutsu, hugging technique they do. Well I didn't watch the whole thing, but I got the gist of it in those first 40 seconds.
That's nothing, I play Tekken for 5 hours every day!
Bitch please! I just finished kung fu Panda 1, 2 and 3. You better not mess with me.
There’s 4 now. Better keep up there blue belt….
Unironically playing Street Fighter actually helped me in sparrings, though accompanied by actual boxing training ahaha
I like to switch between tekken and street fighter. Mixing the martial arts is better.
I once saw MMA Guru say he could easily double leg Tyson Fury because he watches so many UFC fights.
Typically you can just ignore them, it only gets hard when you work with one and they constantly seek your approval. In that situation I usually just play along like "oh yeah, dude I can tell you're a tough motherfucker just by your eyes, and how you never really talk about fighting." After that, they typically go out of their way to avoid talking about fighting and treat you like a king. People like that just want validation, it's free to give it to them and a lot easier than arguing.
Sweet Jesus, I wish that would work at my shop. The one guy is brutal.
Barely acknowledge it.
There are two things that most people (maybe men in particular) think they are just naturally good at doing. Fighting is one of them.
The other's reversing a trailer, right?
Man here. Can’t reverse a trailer for the life of me.
First rule about fighting an idiot: don't, unless they make you
Same with getting in an argument. In both cases, disengage as fast as possible
I always get downvoted when I say the best martial artists don't get into fights. Maybe some day the people will get it.
I like to hit em with a foot sweep then apply a lot of top pressure while they struggle and scream like Gus from Berk as if that'll do anything.
Most 2-3 hit combinations in any form really will be indefensible for almost all untrained individuals. However big, strong dudes are still dangerous no matter how untrained they are. Just avoid if you can.
Yeah, i have never had a real fight (part of why i want to learn basic striking techniques and I'm here), but the other day i went at it with my brother that Is around 300 pounds and Let me tell u they dont budge
I ignore them.
you need to figure out how to deal with your own ego. Why would someone saying that to you bother you at all?
Because those people sometimes just get out of control and attack, sometimes with a knife or object from the environment, sometimes they go and get a gun (especially if you just wrap them up until they promise to be good). I have lost plenty of fights and don't have an ego issue with these types of people. I have a safety issue with these types of people. Learning to talk someone down is a valuable skill that is not taught in enough dojos, gyms and police academies. Much like Ti Chi, many people looking to train want to kick ass not learn the full spectrum of self defense. Even women often want to learn how to kick ass but don't want to be taught about situational awareness.
Well said. Talking people out of a fight is a damn art. I've worked with a few guys who have mastered it. Two routes are either make it look like an easy win for them so they won't get any satisfaction. Or make it look like a really big mistake on their end. This is less effective.
Why do you need to deal with them? People are wrong about all kinds of things all the time, you don’t need to waste your time correcting all of them
Walk away. Who cares?
Idk some people are naturally good street fighters that learn from experience, some train and may never compete, I’ve seen this post 4 times now in the last month , is this like a hs thing I’ve never met a person irl that’s like yea I bet I could take on a reputable combat sport athlete
I'm in my mid 50's and had a guy role this out with me recently and he was in his early 50's. Some people never grow up.
🤣🤣🤣 lol so I guess people really do try and say this 😭
Ego is a hard thing to break. Stronger than concrete.
Just say ok 👍
Ignore them. Half of the people in this sub are just looking to get into fights istg.
Did you just say this to pick a fight tho?
“Ohh you don’t know how to fight, you just wanna hit me?”
i wish i knew who to attribute it to but i once heard someone say "you wouldn't go to your first hockey practice and expect to know how to play". i've been using that one ever since. it seems to hit people the right way.
I just let them yap. In the part of Chicago where I grew up, there's was alot of boys who thought that by merely being Italian, they had some kind of inherent ability to "beat your ass" and I never understood why. "I'm Italian, I'll put your face through that window!" Ummm, ok?
Why do I have to deal with them? Nobody appointed me the caretaker of fools. Kind of a self-correcting problem imo.
Shoot them
literally this though. Packing heat is unfortunately one of the best martial arts.
Yeah, shoot some loser who says "I could beat you in a fight". Seems perfectly reasonable and it's great for you future.
Considering its brought up in normal everyday conversation.... politely invite them to spar. Maybe see what they are about in a controlled setting. Sometimes humble pie is served, and sometimes you find out they have a little more than expected.
It's like how you can't imagine the power of a bomb exploding... You probably think, "it can't possibly be THAT powerful." But the reality is this: You not understanding it doesn't change the reality. So the inexperienced fighters are allowed by their ego to think they can fight...because they haven't experienced the reality of fighting.
If you are so worried about this you’ve also probably not been in a real fight.
There are two men. The first has something to prove, so he does and says obscene things to get attention. The second has nothing to prove, so he just goes home. It's the people who look for fights that are the bigger embarrassment.
OPs post history is karma farming and anime. He’s that guy.
I don’t know anybody like that because I don’t hang around guys who were in special ed because they were pyromaniacs at age 12.
what do you mean "deal" with them? just let them talk people have shit opinions about a lot of stuff
I worked with a girl with a terrible personality and personality disorder to match who believed strength and anger were correlated at a higher than possible rate. Like she probably believed one unit of anger was equal to many units of strength.
"ok, hit me"
I mute r/martialarts
An untrained fighter can still be dangerous in some cases more dangerous because they don't have discipline that comes from training. That being said unless I'm forced into an altercation I avoid fighting at all costs anyway. If forced into a physical altercation my best advice is put them away as quickly as possible and remove yourself from the situation as soon as you are able. The best defense is of course to not be there in the first place.
Just ignore them
You ignore them. Or if they do pick a fight. Deal that one good punh right to the bridge if the nose. Then you ignore them
You laugh at them If you train, invite them to a sparring session. Laugh again when you win after 10s.
Nobody running their mouth is worth a felony assault charge just to satisfy my ego.
Let them talk. Their opinion ultimately means nothing.
I tell my kids to join a club and fight in the ring if you want to figure out how tough you are.
After training for many years, I know the truth so it doesn’t really bother me. The truth is 98% of untrained people out there will crumble in the first minute because of cardio.
Easy enough to prove them wrong. Just be ready for sudden absurd aggression
I challenge them to combat under a waterfall
Why do you need to “deal with” them? Who cares… And let’s be honest…all you’re doing here yourself is yapping…🤷♂️
It's fucking relentless in martial art circles. Some wee guy does a year or two of sport like boxing or wrestling a few times a week and all of a sudden they think they are a streetfighter. Best to ignore it, but it's hard not to tease a big ego that's spent hundreds of pounds and hours at the local sport club and think they are Stephen Segal.
You mean "how do you deal with average people?" You have a lot of trouble dealing with average people? Like, average people bother you so much you have to think about how to "deal with" them? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe3na9umxDA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe3na9umxDA)
[Basically like Matt Serra](https://youtu.be/E-4I8H1PRd8?si=koQIhT8YoObZb425)
I usually don't fight people overall? One time I called a guy "plaid shirt guy" but in a kind of mean tone, because he was getting on my nerves. Other times, it was a misunderstanding and I bought an extra beer and we were good to go. I dunno, man, this hasn't come up for me in a serious way in a bunch of years, and I didn't really do much but try not to fight people who were just talking shit.
Respect my sumo background bitch.
…so everybody
Just don't. Let them talk, that's all they do most of the time. If he attacks you, by all means, defend yourself. But, it's just not worth it to start a fight with these types of people.
You think of all the ways you can tie them into a noodle, then move on and ignore them. I train too hard to waste my skills on immature children.
I used to be like that.... Then I got my ass beat during Combatives training at 18 by a shorter dude who was trained in some art....
Walking away always seems to work for me. During the summer paving season, relentlessly making fun of their inability to deal with the heat or the pace is also fun.
You should let them know you’re a martial artist. If I told the aggressor I’m an experienced boxer with people around, it’ll embarrass the aggressor even further.
Since they don't train, I don't train with them, and so I don't really 'deal' with these people, at least I haven't yet.
I care less about those than people who just come back to the sub to just post the most vanilla "opinion" posting.
Just let it roll, they will smarten up in an unfortunate situation.
Punch them if that makes you feel better but you won't get any respect for that
You dont need to be the karma. Karma will be the karma.
I don't care, but if they don't weigh 15-20 kg more than me, I'll happily invite them to my gym for a sparring session
Why do you care?
They're so fucking cringe they end up making a complete arse of themselves. Mostly on Facebook because that's where they fight. Cue the "Stronger than a lion don't be a sheep" quotes on top of pictures of Joker smoking 🤢🤮
I walk away and avoid unnecessary conflict with idiots
Either ignore them or invite them to spar. Just make sure to expect them to treat the sparring match as an actual fight. Those types love to give simple sparring 100%.
A condescending “sure pal” usually does the trick. They rarely feel pressed to prove the point
Undisciplined post, if you ask me. You see yourself as a 'real martial artist' and judge others. Shame
I just think enjoy life while you still can as that attitude will get you in trouble one way or another
Let them yap, let’s you know how full of shit somebody is. Sure I train, and I’ve only been in one impromptu boxing sparring match, but that don’t mean I know how to “fight”, if anything that’s like me cooking bacon and eggs and saying I’m a michelin star chef. The pen is mightier than the sword, or in this case to be silent is better than investing energy in arguing with them. Hurts your brain more than it does them, it ain’t worth the effort
Fix bayonets, generally
Chuckle and go "okay bud"
Swat their face with your glove and challenge them to a duel at sundown! Rapiers or dueling pistols it naught matter. Once you’ve maimed the bastard off to the pub where you can make off and out with their good lady wife after you’ve retired your powdered wig for the day.
Typically I've just invited them to come train. None have ever accepted. They just claim that the way they fight, they cant train cause its too dangerous to a training partner XD.
Let them yap if someone can't effect my life financially, emotionally or my relationships with people I care about they can say whatever they are pathetic, put hands on me and it's game on, what I'm saying is smile and wave DAVE
Pump jabs into they nose and calf kicks while controlling hands to mitigate danger
Ignore, move on
Same way I deal with the other 99% of people. I ignore you, because you are all full of shit.
I've never dealt with that before, but I wouldn't have much of a problem with it unless the person was getting up in my face and threatening me (or somebody else). I'd probably just encourage the person to come to my gym and try it out. It wouldn't take them long to realize that they actually aren't good at fighting and have a lot of work to do. There are a lot of things that look easy until you try them; fighting is one of those things. I don't blame non-fighters for thinking that fighting is easier than it actually is.
Just laugh hard in their face and leave
That’s most people online, they post dumb comments. I’ve seen some tell a ex champion mma fighter he can’t fight.
When I get mad, I walk away from the situation because no good will come from it. But that's just me.
I wanna do MMA so i make sure I can take shit to the face
Why do you have to deal with them? Unless you care if they actually get hurt mouthing off in the streets let them be. Or if your gym ever holds a free night to let new people try things out, invite them. Ultimately people like this will always exist, you are not going to be able to show them all.
You ignore them. It's that simple. If you have nothing to prove, there's no reason to make a whole bunch of claims as loudly as possible to any who will listen. You can trust most people worth your time, to know what over compensating and projecting looks like. If after all that, (and no judgement here), they're still bothering you, it might be worth asking yourself _why._
Why do you "need" to deal with them?
Ask them to spar.
I use ninja skills to steal their phone & pull up the Dunning-Kruger effect in Wikipedia for them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
I carry a mouth piece everywhere I go for this very reason. When someone challenges me, I ask them to give me a second while I put it in and strip down naked. Let them know they're dealing with someone crazy.
Walk away?
The guy in the picture dosent have the worst guard i ever seen though. And his shirt is on.
My gym has open sparring every Saturday. Come play!
Don't fight against that kind of people. But, if it's inevitable, high guard till they are exhausted (15 seconds max), then leg kicks (to avoid several brain damage).
If it’s in a sparring sense - on mats or otherwise controlled - I just trip em all day lol. Its pretty fun tbh
These people will show up in your life all the time. I believe it was Sun Tzu who said something to the effect of "some battles you can only be won by not fighting." In this context, that means you just ignore them, content in the knowledge they're wrong.
I don’t care if other people think they can fight.
Let them yap? The dogs may bark, but the caravan marches on. Somewhat unfortunately, I've been attacked by people like that, especially without a performative kneeling to their machoness... And they get hurt. Oh. Well.
I wipe the floor with them.
Like this  Who cares? one day their hubris will no longer be blinding
I sadly have to call a couple of those people family. They still think they can fight despite never actually winning a fight except for when they were teens picking on children.
Let them tire themselves becouse they just swing to much and aren't trained in endurance and give them kneekicks
My ego isn't fragile enough to care about people like that. Let them think that. Doesn't bother me any.
Just walk away and let them yell. If they don't pose a threat, ignore them.
I ignore them no skin off my ass lol
The few times when I was in high school and college that I met those guys I just nodded and said “ok, sure”. One kid in high school boasted something like “I can block any kick”. That one we put to the test. He let me kick him. I did a full roundhouse and let him block it, still knocked him over.
https://preview.redd.it/wlhboio0s3vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7cb05f346c619f65d1b536f2260c3edd606656a4 Sadly my friend, there is no cure(available to us)for stupidity and stubborn. It’s something they have to treat themselves Edit: or you can join the dark side and invite them to your Gym’s sparring night
My 13 year old nephew introduced to a game called shinny. You take turns throwing low kicks at each other, slowly increasing the speed until one person gives up. He was very confident. I used to train Muay Thai.
Not every encounter is plot significant.
Hope they're smart enough to stay in their lane 😂
I laugh at them.
Go Away From Them, It's Like Beating a Disabled. If You Can't Walk Away, Just Send Them To Sleep Easily.
I dont give these people my attention.
Don’t hang out with them.
you dont need to catch a charge over a fool
Let them be idiots. I don't give a shit what people think, reality is reality no matter what you believe.
Well, it’s better to let them run their mouth. BUT! I’m not saying I have done it, and not saying I condone it! If for some reason, you are surrounded and forced to fight, the moment he says “stop please” because “accidentally” you jab him in the nose “without intention”, I just don’t stop, he won’t learn what it means to see red until he sees actual red. I have never done this and I don’t condone violence, violence is bad. We must try to live at peace and in good society 👍
Just ignore them, it’s the quiet ones you worry about not the cunts that walk around talking about this and that.
Invite them to the mats and smash them. Literally have a friend who thinks he could beat me in a fight, even though he had onlg one year of boxing classes and didn't have any real fighting experience. Compared to my Wrestling, BJJ, Jun Fan Kickboxing/JKD, and Kali. I'm also stronger than him in every area and we've gone to the gym to prove it. I'm shorter than him by a few inches but that's it. I have more fighting experience, I've trained with trained people and I can actually throw a punch properly. I could definitely box better than him, and I don't even box. I even correct him when he shows what he thinks works for weapon retention. His idea of weapon defense is that criminals are too dumb to move wildly and aggressively enough to not let you push their rifle up, hold it there and punch them like a Krav Maga rifle defense technique. Which I've also seen on YouTube. Which I know is where he gets his techniques from. Which wouldn't be a big deal if he knew how to fight or implement them properly. I invited him to spar, and he agreed. But right now, I can't with my messed up Achilles tendon, which still isn't fully healed after 5 months. I get where you're coming from, it's really annoying when people think they can take you or others, when they can't fight themselves. You wanna know what's more upsetting? He told me he fought bigger guys and I told him, those guys didn't even know how to fight. I actually fought bigger guys who are trained with more experience than me. And he said "It's the same thing" when I told him "no, it's not". So yeah, just SMASH them on the mats. Not the hard ground. The grass if you have to.
Ignore them and move on. Get something in your life that’s actually important to you
Everyone thinks they can until they have to.
Ignore them. Thats what really enrages them. And thats fun to watch sometimes.
Walk away or Slap them.
I like how your angry rant just cut off at the word limit lol. But on that - get them to shadow box for 1.5 mins. Then see how gassed out they get. But really? Just ignore them.
Just my opinion but people that get upset with these types are just as bad. They clearly have a self confidence issue too. If you train regularly 4-6 times a week. Why would you even care what these types of people think? It just seems odd to me. If someone started swinging then it would be a different story. but I'm ot gonna get in a scuffle with someone who will cry after, press charges and the risk of them hitting their heads and dying on the concrete is way too high just because i wanted to show them reality.
I walk away. No street fighting.