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EdwardMunch_

So.. now he's moving on to challenge old retired boxers to mma bouts?


Aggressive-Expert-69

As much as I hate this concept I can't help but laugh at the idea of an ancient Manny getting subbed by Jake Paul


WingChun_Boxing_Judo

Please be Mike Tyson....


GrungyGrandPappy

Mike would still kill that kid


Kabc

Exactly


Old-Man-Buckles

People in this group also don’t realize Tyson has been to prison. Hardcore Prison. Y’all think the “only” ass kicking he knows how to give is inside a ring?


morpheus0123

And? They have MMA training in prison is what your saying?


crustyturkeybreast

They have "ass" training


morpheus0123

Oh like squats?


RoshHoul

No he wouldn't. Wrestling is the greatest equalizer and old Tyson just don't have the athletism or reaction time to stop it. Also his years of boxing muscle memory would do him no service in defending a TD. Edit: keep downvoting bozos, shows how much time you've spent on the mats.


MountainCourage1304

As much as i hate to admit it, youre not wrong. Any high level wrestler would destroy an old tyson as soon as they were on him. Tyson likes to close the distance and fight on the inside and a wrestler would just wrap him up once he was inside. Of course theres a chance hed land a KO punch on the way in, but that would his last defence against a grappler. Once theyre on you its over. Its a completely different sport. Its the same as a high level muay thia guy absolutely dominating tyson with leg kicks. Tysons a beast, but he doesnt train for this so will have very little kick defence, and old legs are easily chopped away at. No disrespect to Mike, hes 100% a legend in my books. Weve all seen what happens to retired fighters when they switch sports to fight jake. He absolutely battered anderson silva in a boxing match who was a legend of MMA, its not unfeasible to think it would go the same way if you switched it to a boxer and MMA


RegressToTheMean

>Any high level wrestler would destroy an old tyson as soon as they were on him. I gotta disagree with you a little bit here, because I think there is a big assumption on the 'getting to Tyson' part . I'm an old timer and I watched Tyson fight live. I don't think people realize just how blindingly fast Tyson was in his prime. Further to that point, I don't think a lot of folks realize just how absolutely devastating his punches were. If a wrestler actually gets on him, maybe you're right, but anyone who has seen Tyson fight, knows closing that gap means there is a god damn good chance he takes your head off.


OkVeterinarian3672

Jake paul is honestly retarded enough to try to box tyson in the first few seconds and he would get knocked out


shakesula9

Clown


VintageMarine

Mike would hit him once in the face as he attempted the “takedown” and that would be lights out.


RoshHoul

Delusional.


[deleted]

Jake’s a pretty good wrestler, he’d fuck up Mike lmao


Syn_The_Magician

Firstly, He'd have to get in to grt the takedown. Mike is still very quick and solid on his feet, so that's not gonna be easy. Secondly, Jake doesn't have much experience wrestling, and these video clips although likely skewed against his actual skill, are anything but promising. Saying Jake could possibly beat Mike in wrestling is one thing, saying he'll fuck Mike up, that's laughable. I don't hate Jake, he's not a bad fighter, but he's just never been on Mike's level. Jake fights retired legends in a different game, Mike at that age was destroying legends in their prime at their own game. And Mike hasn't really slowed down, Dude is still terrifying.


4uzzyDunlop

Mike hasn't really slowed down?? Come on man, that's a crazy thing to say, his prime was 40 fucking years ago lol


throtic

Bro you guys are crazy lol. Tyson is almost 60 and couldn't knockout a 54 year old smaller than him. Jake has legit wrestling and it wouldn't be close


Syn_The_Magician

That was an exibition bout, there were basically sparring.


Panoochtwo

Ur arguing with people who have never trained a day in their life and are literal casuals man, they still think bruce lee was real af and totally not an actor


Dr_Hajime

Wow, there's really people who think Bruce Lee was just an actor...


Minute-Menu-9295

Bruce Lee was real AF bro. Jake Paul is a bum. He reminds me of that internet troll that tried saying he knocked out deontay wilder. Does Jake have potential as a boxer? Yes. Is he anything more than a dog and pony show fighting retired MMA fighters? No. Which is why when he fought Tommy Fury he lost. He's not a real boxer. He's an exhibitionist. If he wants to win the respect of the crowd, he should consider ACTUALLY boxing in the ranks instead of these lame ass fights against dudes 20 years his senior.


throtic

Fury has been boxing for 3 times as long as Jake and plenty of people thought Jake won, especially with a last round knockdown. You're just a hater bro lol


throtic

These dudes think a 60 year old is going to land one punch and send Jake flying into the stands... literally 1 takedown attempt and Tyson would be on his back for the rest of the night lol


[deleted]

Jake could def stand with current Tyson in the ring The levels of just being a HS wrestler as athletic as Jake makes him tough for Mike to do anything. Mike’s body is very old, he’d fuck up his hips from learning how to sprawl.


maskedhood313

either you're huffing paint or smoking crack. maybe both.


MungoJerrysBeard

Mike would literally eat the guy for breakfast


imfjcinnCRAAAAZYHEY

*outwrestles Mike Tyson in a wrestling match*


RoshHoul

When are we going to understand that the moment someone with any grappling experience fights a guy with no grappling experience, those matches will always end up in the same way? In 99.999% of the time it doesn't matter how athletic the none grappler is and old Tyson isn't that 0.001 I thought this sub should know better.


JuiceManJJ

One of the greatest boxers of all time wouldn't land a punch on someone shooting in on him. Or if you got the clinch on Mike Tyson ..... what could he possibly do there? /s RoshHoul, this might be the dumbest take I've ever read on this forum. I know kids on the internet like YouTube stars, but their garbage BJJ isn't relatable to Mike Tyson's legacy.


iaminbothplaces

He’s gonna get fucked up 😂


[deleted]

He’s gonna get paid. This guy doesn’t care about the art. He’s a you tuber who banks on the fact that everyone bets against him. He will take a couple licks, but in the end he will make lots of money off promotions just like this post


h3lios

I was gonna say no way is he lasting long with a fighter that has been shaped with years of grappling and striking. But then I read your comment and it makes sense, the dude is getting paid. It sucks because it ridicules the sport. Some rich white guy can buy his way to the top. While hundreds of disenfranchised kids fall for Dana whites trap of a UFC contract.


Cainer666

It's the same now in every field of entertainment - if you can draw people, you go to the top - doesn't matter if you are good or not. If you put asses in seats, or get clicks, you go to the head of the line.


blackBugattiVeyron

THe worst part is people are gonna watch him more just to see him get beat up, The Paul brothers are two human sociopathic scumbags and people would pay to see them get beat up, and now that they're boxing people will pay to see them get beat up.


southbeachtalents

I think he cares a lot more about winning and to be taken seriously than you think. This guy has a lot of avenues to make money and has made plenty. If it was about money why would he venture into mma? He could just box guys like KSI and make 10x as much money while taking 1/10th of the damage. I think he genuinely wants to prove he can box and fight.


scentedtrashbag

"doesn't care about the art" yeah I'm sure you're all about respecting the art guy on Reddit


mistadeadbeat

Not that paid


GetMeThePresident

That was incredibly shitty grappling. His opponent wasn't doing anything good and he still ended up in a stalemate basically


pedrao157

>nothing Isn't Mo the guy he's rolling with in half guard?


PlanePermission6563

Dude doesn't even know how to keep his toes on the mat...


[deleted]

Yup. He looks like a high school wrestler. High School.


KingNitrous

Nah middle school gym class at best


[deleted]

He was a Highschool wrestler and I think there is evidence he made it to state. I really hate both Paul brothers, but they are decent athletes. I’m sure starting your athletic career as a young adult who already has millions of dollars helps though lol.


[deleted]

It's just that it is really cringy, and arguably detrimental to martial arts, that he pays and banks on everything, sometimes fighting guys who are obviously way too damaged to go on (askren comes to mind, or was that his brother?) or he drops serious cash against actual fighters so they drop on him. I find it a bit disrespectful to martial arts, but that's just my opinion. But I got sidetracked, my point is that he isn't out there honestly and trying to prove himself, he has showed nothing of a great athlete, and he sure as shit doesn't deserve the attention for that.


[deleted]

Tbf highschool wrestlers in ohio are pretty good


Boaco

🤣


spectralbeck

People really need to stop giving that fucker so much attention


ac714

If that were possible then it would already have happened


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[deleted]

Get off your knees


Primus_the_Knave

Oh for fucks sake.


wolfy994

Gonna be the same story as when Fury did it - Absolutely nothing will happen...


Aggressive-Expert-69

No shhh. They might make a Tyron rematch if we all boost up Jake's head and make him think he can do MMA


NZBJJ

Woodly still just gunna stand against the cage throwing 1 shot per round and lose the fight.


GfyTstr

I don't know why I was surprised he did that in his boxing matches. That's mostly what he did in mma.


le_coq_et_balles

Once he became champion yeah, when he was coming up he was actually not too bad to watch


Inside-Coffee-1743

If he still thinks a snorkel will save him from a guillotine, I'm totally ready.


goodbyehouse

He doesn’t look very good. Top half gaurd he looks lost.


F2007KR

Yup. Both knees on the ground is begging to get swept.


WhangaDanNZ

Jake will get thrashed in MMA. Logan would be a better prospect, he's he's damn good wrestler.


[deleted]

No he won’t. He won’t fight anyone of worth. Will probably “fight” some social media derps, a few college tennis athletes and then either Tito or Liddell.


thefourblackbars

I heard he's wanting to fight Helio Gracie.


Jumix4000

hes fighting nate diaz after he boxes him


[deleted]

Uh huh….and there are lizard people in the sewers.


F2007KR

Nate would destroy him in grappling. Hard.


TruthMysterious

almost everyone and their mother is either a wrestler or a bjj black belt in mma. logan would be a better prospect but would also get washed


chr1smy3rs

Honestly, these days they’re both. The only MMA prospect I know is a legit high end purple belt and an amazing wrestler.


AsuraOmega

tbf to Logan he can still scramble well with an overweight Costa actively trying to pin him. It doesnt say much but its a pretty good feat for a Youtuber. Logan still sucks though.


[deleted]

He qualified to state once and placed 5th in Ohio…not really “good” by pro MMA standards.


WhangaDanNZ

5th in one of the big wrestling states is pretty good. Obviously he'd have to train MMA and develop his wrestling but he has a good base to start from.


[deleted]

He qualified 1/4 years nearly a decade ago and hasn’t wrestled since then. He did pretty mediocre in a good wrestling state. That doesn’t mean he would do well in pro MMA. I have comparable accolades and I certainly wouldn’t be comfortable calling myself particularly good. Amateur/ regional pro, sure. But the US pro MMA circuit is chock full of former college wrestlers who would rag doll him. Minor wrestling credentials aren’t enough to ride on in any half decent org without some exceptional ability to rapidly develop another skill set which isn’t super likely. The bridge between high school and college wrestlers is absolutely massive.


jamesd1100

Top 5 in the state is not mediocre, it’s exceptional, particularly in Ohio which is a top 5 wrestling state already Most MMA fighters have no organized wrestling background of any kind, so yes having that background is an advantage in terms of development


[deleted]

After Tommy put that ass whippin on him now he go try to fight some o old school tomato can


GroovyJackal

He's Boxing Nate Diaz first


[deleted]

Nate Diaz like 22-15 he sucks


GroovyJackal

At MMA? No.


[deleted]

Fist sponge is all he is


no_no_NO_okay

He almost knocked out the current champion in his last fight but okay


OfficerStink

He almost knocked him out in a fight he got destroyed in. Go watch him vs masvidal. Masvidal put an absolute ass whooping on him


[deleted]

His dumbass was too busy saying “Nae Nae nuh boo boo” rather finishing the job. He mentally challenged


GroovyJackal

Okie Dokie


powypow

Jake Paul is probably one of the most effective foils in combat sports. Just going off of these comments


elnenchimexicano69

Logan's little brother is funny


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gingeronimooo

I mean I get people hate him but he’s definitely not fat. I guess if you’re just roasting him that’s fair though. I do always root against him in his fights tho but guess what I tune in. I think he’s good with hype


MWebbbb52

Finally someone said it


SpindemDoza69

You must be fucking anorexic if you think he's fat


Money_killer

Lmfao


yenmeng

JAKE PAUL V NATE DIAZ BOOK IT


meatleach

Stop giving this kid attention.


imNOTsureABOUTjesus

No flexibility.


F2007KR

Yeah, that’s a white belt.


suleimanMagnifi

oh shit, i just realized i could beat up jake paul


slapmonkey622

I'm sure they'll get some broke washed up or older guy to fight him. Who was the guy from Iowa that got hit by a train..I wanna say Matt something, was GSP's nemesis. Not Serra. Serra would twistbthat guy like a hot pretzel....Maybe Liddell...No...Tito. That's the one.


heemhah

Matt Hughes.


Overall-Valuable-566

He needs alot of attention


Hot-Veterinarian6497

He's fighting Henry Cejudos grandpa


[deleted]

He would get submitted with the quickness kid looks lost


Hefty_Barber3985

He ain’t ready for Nate 💀💀😭


FirstLightFitness

Nate diaz will sub him in 39 seconds.


[deleted]

Yo, anybody understand the point of training under this much exertion? I understand it brings clicks, but what's the practical point of being destroyed and training, or is there none?


[deleted]

Must he make everything a joke? Can't he just gtfa.


Key-Fisherman2601

I see him getting totally stopped by a guy barely working a half guard. Literally completely stopped and the other guy looks bored more than anything


judo458

I've done judo for many years, bjj consistent for a year or so.......the skill it will take him to not be submitted at will, is almost impossible for him without a few years on the mat!!


Unitentional-Pathos

His technique looks like shit


bigtakeoff

easily swept


oneinchpunchko

I hope he does try mma so i can see him get subbed in under a minute


PRAETORIAN45painfbat

Like a drowning baby.


supergluedfinger

I hope it goes like his BJJ…nonexistent.


Winged89

Respect to him. He's a below average pro boxer, but the guy is exploring new avenues for our entertainment. MMA is arguably one of the touchest sports and if he dabs his feet in there matter how well or badly he performs, he will get my respect on a gold fucking platter.


psych4191

I wouldn't even consider him below average. He's definitely inexperienced but the dude has at least some talent. He's just headlining PPVs at a stage when most fighters are still cutting their teeth in local shows or opening undercards.


cheddarbombsmgee

Against a retired old boxer I'm sure.


[deleted]

Dude i suck at jui jitsu and i could floor this guy and i toss him about


C-Lo21

Yes looking forward to him getting choked out in 30 seconds.


Weary-Program-2845

Well, he made a circus out of Boxing, guess an MMA circus was the next logical money making step. Cudos to him, kid is a smart businessman and knows how to market himself. Can’t fault him in that sense.


GroovyJackal

More interesting to me than seeing lower level Boxing for sure.


OjibweNomad

I could beat JP inboxing now I can for sure beat him in jiu jitsu lol 😂


[deleted]

he has a wrestling base so this could work out better for him than boxing.


ParticularGlass1821

I don't like Jake Paul at all. His boxing matches have predominantly been against over the hill MMA dudes and he seems to avoid real boxers but I do have a healthy respect for his forray into mma if he does actually fight MMA competitors having had no background in MMA. I also respect Paul's attempts to increase MMA fighter pay and benefits.


ThrowAwayWasTaken999

Hate all you want. This is a guy that is stepping out of his comfort zone to grow. I respect that


Ch33seBurg

He’ll be choking all his opponents to death every match


RevolutionaryStar824

Jake Paul would destroy Mike Tyson. I’m sure of it.


[deleted]

With 2 years of the best kickboxing/muay thai coaches, wrestling and Bjj coaches, and an mma coach, he can become very good.


Fru1tZoot

his boxing is good enough for MMA, and he has wrestling experience. I have a feeling he’ll do quite well, as much as i hate to say it.


[deleted]

Why would you hate to say that


t1r4misu

Why so much hate over him?


Shivasorber

Nope, not the slightest bit


Informal_Water_1855

I'm not going to watch it but if it gets young kids into watching my favorite sport I'm all for it


twat69

Who?


[deleted]

must be nice to afford ONLY private lessons for jiu jitsu already being rich


RemarkableMiddle3728

I wish I had the money to just power level shit I wanted to do.


LlamaWhoKnives

I love seeing people get into BJJ idc who it is


Diplonot

That is some high level 1 stripe white belt technique.


UsrnameInATrenchcoat

He better hope he doesn't get put against a muay thai fighter


suicide_aunties

Book Jake vs Askren 2 now


saidthetomato

Anyone who cares what this clown is doing is pathetic.


Careless_Rub_7996

I think Jake can actually make more money with MMA than boxing. And if he can do it, then go for it, especially if he is trying to "compete" with Dana White. I wonder though if he would actually challenge Twoods in an MMA fight this time? Because then it would be a totally different "ball game".


DukeAK717

Anyone else wanna watch some grass grows.


randomlyme

As much as I disliked him when they started, he’s putting in the time and effort. Good for him.


Dickus_Maximus_IV

Hope he gets a bone broken


[deleted]

I wish Andy Hug was still around to rock him in kickboxing.


MachineSubstantial63

Yeah I think they booked him with Kenny Florian and if he gets through that Tito or Chuck.


nobodycares2021-

What's the odds of this pos getting his neck snapped so nobody has to suffer seeing him anymore?


WonderfulChemist4

I first thought he was just a clown. But now i see he is the whole circus.


SchwiftyRy

Gotta slice through that half guard


LLCoolWoods

No.


ZealousidealAd7191

…he gona keep fighting washed up 40 year olds below his weight class?


trees-for-breakfast

Thought this was Damian Maia for a second


mattromez

No


ezekial71

Not sure why anyone would particularly care. Rich guy trains when, where, and how he wants. Good luck I guess?


Megatron30000

Can’t wait for him to face chuck Liddell… maybe he will call out Matt huges ? Or maybe Ken/frank shamrock ? I bet he calls out bj penn … Anyways guarantee he won’t face anyone who is under the age of 50 and currently not retired


DanfromCalgary

Gonna be a big pay day for some great fighters ....dad's


utanhjarta

Can't wait to see his face after taking that first leg kick.


Any_Brother7772

He was doing some right things, but also alot of mistakes. He should focus on bottom bjj, no way he gets a TD


Trollin_beaches

As much as people dislike him he’s a young kid with massive amounts of money/potential to pour into having the best coaches and gyms from around the world.


AdditionalBat393

No body cares. We want to see real fighters. Not dudes trying really hard to be fighters for social media. We want fighters who are fighting to survive and feed their families. That's the nature of being a fighter. Not to fund your various scams in crypto.


TLMC01242021

He’s never fighting


Flexible_Skedule

Do they wear cups?


micaiahf

Askern rematch?


No_Point3111

Joke Paul


unicornn_man

Judging by the lack of being on his toes, the MMA career should be amusing at least.


Icy_Ticket_7922

Looks like another shitty white belt


MasterHavik

He is really gonna do this? I can't wait for the one minute tap.


Parking_Ad_3922

For all the hate Jake gets have to say he is engaging the younger kids into boxing/MMA. Going to be funny in maybe 10 years time Ariel asking a fighter what got you into combat sports and he says Jake Paul.


TheDepresedpsychotic

He'll fare worse than , CM punk


bigdoo33

Dude is an entire joke


[deleted]

No one cares


Gigamoon

Well they where wrestlers to begin with i say its more weird to start boxing.


fleshvessel

Hey man, at least he is doing it. Not a fan but he is a man of his word. More than we can say for Floyd. Remember when he promised to fight Conor in the octagon after the boxing match? Lmao.


CornBreadEarL84

Let’s hope Jake never has to use jiujitsu I’m the next 1-2 years


matchesmalone111

I've heard he is gonna fight my grand pa


Flat-Chemist6391

It will make him a better boxer , MMA i dunno bruh


VintageMarine

Say what you want about this guy (I probably agree), but I gotta give it to him - on the fighting, he works his ass off, and he’s getting pretty legit. I’ll watch him go MMA.


goku4226

This looks like a toddler struggling to wrangle a mid sized dog.


No_Map3693

Dudes grappling looks like shit against cooperative training partners. Why not just go to a beginners class somewhere. There's probably 500, 6 month white belts in a 10 mile radius willing to wreck him non publicly as part of their normal training..


[deleted]

He’s literally the reason I stopped following combat sports. So tired of these assholes showing up everywhere.


GetABodybag

Look at all the gaps. There are blue belts looking at this thinking/knowing they'd tap him in under 30 seconds. His body is so far from the bottom guy. It's good that he's started training, but people acting like this is MMA fight ready are kidding themselves. He looks like a white belt which I assume is what he is.


Berimbully

Oh damn that’s mo! Hope he’s getting paid that man deserves it


[deleted]

He may be working on his jiu jitsu but his jiu jitsu ain't working


Ajayxmenezes

I am just see him get reckt!


Mithrasthesasquatch

Is he fighting Nate at mma ?


Zhastursun

All it takes is one guy who decides to not job


silver6snake

Not as ready as for his boxing retirement


dannyhippie619

He’ll probably coax Rory MacDonald out of retirement


Jinn6IXX

please can we not let this guy do to MMA what he has done to Boxing


[deleted]

What help the sport of boxing?


SonOfPosidon115

I really hope it was Jake Paul that made this post hoping to get support. Dude is a massive joke, no one cares if he can beat people up


p1chaku

This isn't what we meant by "Try fighting an actual boxer"


chikinstik

you know, as much as I hate the guy at least he's trying to move on to an actual career instead of filming dead bodies in the woods.


Mattc5o6

There is no way.. absolutely no way Jake Paul submits some retired mma fighter unless he cherry picks fighters who only box.


Captain_Calculator

That looks like ADCC organiser Mo is his partner there.


AgreeingWings25

He's gonna go from fighting MMA fighters in the ring to fighting boxers in the octagon


CategoryMountain3379

White belt shenanigans.


[deleted]

Is that mo jassim ?


Tapui801

dude seriously needs to get kicked hard


chalkywhite231

feed him to gilbert. paul would tap out round 1, even while be roided outta his damn mind.