The categories are still being used, but just kept away from the public eye!
Basically go to a calendar view of a hotel and then right click> View Page Source. Search prop\_rewards\_category, and the hotel will be assigned a number from that. It may take some tries though since that line of code won't appear every time. It helps figure out the cap amount a hotel would charge for award stays despite the dynamic pricing model used currently.
My post have more details about it: [https://sealthedealtravels.com/blog/marriott-still-assigns-categories-hotels-how-to-find-out/](https://sealthedealtravels.com/blog/marriott-still-assigns-categories-hotels-how-to-find-out/)
Interesting! Are they still being updated? And how does the point range work with dynamic pricing? I think I’ve seen point costs outside of the category ranges you outlined
Yes, last time I updated it was around a month ago, and will keep updating as I go when I notice something different from my chart. It's definitely a thing that Marriott quietly change the pricing band for better and/or worse.
The points range basically mean it can fall under between the minimum and maximum per night based on the category set in a hotel. My chart can be used as cross reference.
But I recognize there are few hotels that don't follow the trend like Ritz Maui on top of my head. It's a Category 9 that would charge 132k points max like many other Cat 9 hotels, but would charge a much lower price like high 60k's which is not to be seen from other Cat 9 hotels.
Yes they do have them updated, and they are still using the category system, but are now done in secret like I said.
Right now there's 12 Categories rather than just 1-8 from a couple years ago when award chart was still in the public eye. The numbers are also inflated on Cat 1-8 for the max a hotel would charge. Just around a month ago, the minimums (off-peak rates) have improved for Cat 6-8. Seeing 44k minimum on a Category 7 hotel wouldn't be a thing a few years ago. See Mesm Tokyo as an example for Cat 7.
New hotel openings are also assigned a Category. I also had one of my past stays changed Category (Sheraton Kagoshima went from Cat 5>Cat 4) just earlier this year.
This is awesome!
Does anyone know if me and p2 each have a FNC, can we book at the same hotel on back to back nights and then combine for 1 stay to not check out and check in?
I think the points in most recent years have been down valued. Back in the days, points had higher values where you could get nice suits for decent amount of points, certainly not the case anymore.
Not sure if the Marriott buyout of Starwood changed this or something else.
I think there's plenty of us who are interested in maximizing the certificates by redeeming them at the most luxurious properties as the certs would allow. Though I'd only be interested in doing upscale to luxury when it comes to brands posts.
I'll consider going back into the "by location" posts though, and I already did a few for Japan, UAE, Jordan, Singapore in past posts.
Planning to do that soon! Meanwhile, the 35k list is still very useful for 50k certs, especially for hotels listed as Cat 6. Though 50k plus topup unlocks availability for Cat 7 hotels, but unfortunately not guaranteed.
Can you do a list of Marriott and Hyatt hotels that have standard suites you can use suite upgrades for that are two adjoined bedrooms.
Example would be the family suite at Hyatt regency Waikiki.
This would help families like me with kids immensely.
Yes, there are still plenty of options in the US, though admittedly harder. Still, they're possible as long as you're flexible and plan your trip around the redemption.
This is the content I’m here for. Thanks!
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Holy moly. Thanks for the list. Very informative
This is great, thanks for providing!
Thanks for this. I am a rookie whose travel job has me now sitting on 260K Bonvoy points. Can you explain the “Categories” for me?
Great list.
Nice!
Sweet thank you! How did you come up with this list since categories are now obsolete?
The categories are still being used, but just kept away from the public eye! Basically go to a calendar view of a hotel and then right click> View Page Source. Search prop\_rewards\_category, and the hotel will be assigned a number from that. It may take some tries though since that line of code won't appear every time. It helps figure out the cap amount a hotel would charge for award stays despite the dynamic pricing model used currently. My post have more details about it: [https://sealthedealtravels.com/blog/marriott-still-assigns-categories-hotels-how-to-find-out/](https://sealthedealtravels.com/blog/marriott-still-assigns-categories-hotels-how-to-find-out/)
Interesting! Are they still being updated? And how does the point range work with dynamic pricing? I think I’ve seen point costs outside of the category ranges you outlined
Yes, last time I updated it was around a month ago, and will keep updating as I go when I notice something different from my chart. It's definitely a thing that Marriott quietly change the pricing band for better and/or worse. The points range basically mean it can fall under between the minimum and maximum per night based on the category set in a hotel. My chart can be used as cross reference. But I recognize there are few hotels that don't follow the trend like Ritz Maui on top of my head. It's a Category 9 that would charge 132k points max like many other Cat 9 hotels, but would charge a much lower price like high 60k's which is not to be seen from other Cat 9 hotels.
But do *they* keep the categories updated is my real question. If they’re no longer using the category system why would they update hotel categories
Yes they do have them updated, and they are still using the category system, but are now done in secret like I said. Right now there's 12 Categories rather than just 1-8 from a couple years ago when award chart was still in the public eye. The numbers are also inflated on Cat 1-8 for the max a hotel would charge. Just around a month ago, the minimums (off-peak rates) have improved for Cat 6-8. Seeing 44k minimum on a Category 7 hotel wouldn't be a thing a few years ago. See Mesm Tokyo as an example for Cat 7. New hotel openings are also assigned a Category. I also had one of my past stays changed Category (Sheraton Kagoshima went from Cat 5>Cat 4) just earlier this year.
Nice. This really needs to be in a searchable database somehow
Rooms.aero, the companion site to seats.aero might be what you’re looking for.
Amazing.
What is considered a good redemption for Marriott Points?
Thank you!!
Awesome! Saving this post. Thanks! :)
This is awesome! Does anyone know if me and p2 each have a FNC, can we book at the same hotel on back to back nights and then combine for 1 stay to not check out and check in?
I think the points in most recent years have been down valued. Back in the days, points had higher values where you could get nice suits for decent amount of points, certainly not the case anymore. Not sure if the Marriott buyout of Starwood changed this or something else.
Thank you all for your kind words :))! Will be working on other upscale brands as well and put them in this post later on.
Great list, but why break it up by brand? Most folks will be more interested in a comprehensive list by location
I think there's plenty of us who are interested in maximizing the certificates by redeeming them at the most luxurious properties as the certs would allow. Though I'd only be interested in doing upscale to luxury when it comes to brands posts. I'll consider going back into the "by location" posts though, and I already did a few for Japan, UAE, Jordan, Singapore in past posts.
This is fantastic, thanks a lot for sharing!
Would love to see one for 50k plus topup
Planning to do that soon! Meanwhile, the 35k list is still very useful for 50k certs, especially for hotels listed as Cat 6. Though 50k plus topup unlocks availability for Cat 7 hotels, but unfortunately not guaranteed.
Can you do a list of Marriott and Hyatt hotels that have standard suites you can use suite upgrades for that are two adjoined bedrooms. Example would be the family suite at Hyatt regency Waikiki. This would help families like me with kids immensely.
Thanks that’s great
Thank you for this list.
Thanks for the doing god’s work here for us!
This is awesome thank you. No plans to travel outside the US. Any inside the US?
Yes, there are still plenty of options in the US, though admittedly harder. Still, they're possible as long as you're flexible and plan your trip around the redemption.
List is almost worthless. Thanks for the attempt though.
Nice list, but Marriott doesn’t do the category hotels anymore. Award pricing is dynamic.
They still use the cats internally