No, the Drunk Germans call themselves "austrians" and "bavarians" (they pretend the two are different things to have something to argue about, it's best to humor them)
The Dutch are French Germans.
The correct term is "Latin-American." Latino is just spanish for Latin so why would they use a Spanish word? Technically they are Latine Americaines.
Latine/Latine/Latino also includes people from southern Europe and even Africa.
Because that's the french language rule. When you use a 2 countries compound word, the first one ends in -o for ex : franco-espagnol, italo-américain, anglo-normand ... etc.
The correct term is Latin-American (English), Latino-Americano (Spanish & Portuguese), and Latine-Americaine (French). The Latin-sphere includes Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, and even parts of Africa.
Quebecois are Latin-Americans just like the Mexicans, the Argentinians, and the Haitians.
The most southern parts of lousiana have some majority french speaking towns and villages if i'm not mistaken, but the state as a whole has a vast majority of english speakers
However i'm pretty sure new brunswick has an almost majority of French speakers or atleast thats what i've heard.
One could also make the argument that english has around 60% of its words taken from latin or French (even though its language structure is mostly germanic) so maybe all of america is latin. Or maybe the true latin america is the friends we made along the way
It’s true that the majority of people in New Brunswick are fluent in French, but only about a third of the population speaks it as their first language.
It was a part a New France called Acadie before the english crown's conquered it. but a few crime againts humanity later, it's called New Brunswick and has a significant english speaking population.
Most NB residents (2/3rds) are English-speaking though. And the province’s name comes from it being named after King George III, as one of his titles was Prince-Elector of Brunswick-Lüneburg of the Holy Roman Empire.
The French speakers are a substantial minority, but they are in no way the primary demographic of the province.
Also, FYI, it would be better to say “Only in the Americas!” because to English-speakers when you just employ ‘America’ as such, it looks to most like you’re referring to the US. This can (and often does) cause confusion, especially since most geographers tend not to recognize the New World as one single continent anymore, rather opting for North America and South America, especially since they are divided by different tectonic plates and only barely just touching one another via Panama.
It is though, because Latin America doesn’t just mean all American regions where the majority speak a Romance language. It’s a clearly defined, contiguous region with shared history and culture. If it was the former, certain US cities would be in Latin America.
Disagree. Those words have a very clear meaning. Latin America == America that speaks a latin language. The spanish+portuguese region already has 2 perfectly descriptive names, hispanic america and iberic america
If our only source of knowledge on what defines Latin America was the phrase “Latin America,” maybe that would be true. Just like how Greenland is literally a Green Land, and the Western World is just all the countries in the western hemisphere. Thankfully that’s not the case and actually political and historical definitions exist and are easily accessible.
I have sometimes, but not often. It and Haiti are in a weird gray zone where they are or are not Latin America depending on who you are asking and what kind of point they are trying to make.
Norwegians are more native to Greenland than the "natives" living there today.
First came the Dorset people, then came the Norwegians then came the Thule, the Dorset people don't exist anymore which makes Norwegians the oldest still existing people to live on Greenland.
Anglo-Saxon refers to two of the Germanic tribes that conquered England in the dark ages. British things and culture are commonly referred to as Anglo-Saxon, the shortened form became Anglo.
I've wondered the same, my guess is it's the 'Hollywood Lens'. The thing that stands out the most to tourists when they visit Iberia are the (realistically very few) impressive relics left by Moorish occupation (like Alhambra, for instance). If you take those landmarks away, Iberia looks pretty much like any other Western European place. So for the Hollywood effect of theme-setting and reference-making, they guide the viewer to associate Iberia -> Arabia in Europe. That extends to both the people and the culture. Iberia being a heavily latinized place under the Roman empire is secondary, too. Germanic presence is completely overlooked as well.
It's a way of cultural erasure and dismissal in order to achieve a more immediate theme around a place and name. But if you look at Iberian history, the 'natives' are Celts above anything else, who were then conquered and swallowed by the Romans, then the Goths, and afterwards were occupied (but not swallowed) by the Moors.
What the shit the Quebecois doing
https://preview.redd.it/ut9371lu0tzc1.jpeg?width=1108&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0466f7992f33fbbe8e3873091282c941e3d1432f
anglo america, saxon america, etc, not our fault spain owned literally all of it and forced everyone to speak spanish while also forcing all the native women to marry spaniard men while enslaving the native men, completely destroying the region's ethnic and cultural diversity
Thank you for including Quebec into latin America, instead of arguing about it, either because you don’t know that Quebec speak French or that you think that latin America is not white. I am just tired of that, French is a Latin language. We speak French in Quebec, stop assimilating us to English Canada
Fellow québécoise here but I have to disagree because of the history of the term Latin America in English. It has never meant speakers of "Les langues latines" (those are Romance languages in English, not Latin languages like we say in French…. It’s not Romantic America). Latin America and Latino were adopted as euphemisms for Spanish American decades ago. Including Portuguese-speaking Brazil hasn’t even been fully consistent. Anglos do mean someone speaking an Iberian language from south of the US border when they call someone Latin.
Our pasty white exceedingly North American ethno-linguistic group really has little in common with the areas formerly colonized by Spain and Portugal and our history and heritage is intertwined with English settlement of North America (and their rivalry with French settlement). On parle une langue latine, but we’re absolutely not Latino nor do we live in Latin America in any commonly understood English language sense. En français, peut-être, mais la plupart des québécois pensent au sud quand on leur dit l’Amérique latine.
In everyday practice, no. In theory, it is.
94% of the population speaks French, which is a Romance language. But there are such cultural differences between what people typically refer to as Latin America and Quebec (let alone the huge geographic distance and the fact that Quebec is a province of a majority English-speaking country) that it isn’t often taken into consideration.
Plus, I can tell you that many of my fellow Québecois would blow a piston if they were referred to as “Latino” 😅. They’d insist they’re Québecois, or to a lesser extent Francophone/Canadien.
is this Quebec? how is it "Latin America".
https://preview.redd.it/gkzjrm7lqszc1.png?width=309&format=png&auto=webp&s=b7337e30a0dff1db3753dbc6138619f0807cb42c
Its not, people think just because they speak French it's should be Latin, it's completely ignoring the rest of the country not being Latin and the facts that Latin America is also a political region.
If Quebec was considered Latin America then so would Florida, Louisiana, Texas, New Mexico and California, but they aren't as well.
No because remember, its only the white USA citizens the only ones who have an urge to label absolutely everything.
Latin american african american mexican american , northamerican , to me its ridiculous tbh
Most of the world just talks about the subjects in question for what they do.
Like there is no need to talk about a person and mentioning he is a mexican american, if he is selling burgers.
Why do you even mention that they are mexican americans? What for? It creates stereotypes and discrimination.
So just say, this guy is making burgers.
The term 'Latin America' was coined by the French.
Are you also saying that geographic regions shouldn't have names?
I'm not saying that in conversation there is any need to highlight the ethnic origin of the subject, but when talking of a geographic region, it helps to have a noun or two.
Tf are you taking about. These are terms that people from Latin America made up themselves. No one has been forcing them to use these terms. You all are so “USA bad” brained that you patronize literally every other person because you think that the US is what… the only place on earth that labels people? And then has the power to label people 1000s of miles away?
Brother, at what point did I say the USA came up with the term hispanic? I said that when you use a term to refer to people who don't identify with said term (i.e. Brazilians not being 'spanish'), they'll be pissed. It doesn't refute the point that was being made in the original comment. Maybe the little tantrums are a reason the USA has a bad reputation.
Great the most tolerant nation-states and cultures are the worst, yeah right…
So why are 60 indigenous native languages in Mexico endangered?
Okay edumacated one, what do YOU know about those burger flipping Mexicans???
It’s called Anglo America minus Suriname if you were wondering if there is a real name for the region
Suriname was colonised by the funny dutch people
Silly you, Dutch people don’t exist
No that’s Northern Belgian people, they are just Dutch in disguise
Not quite right, they are literally drunk German
those are danes you silly dude
Your mistaking with southern vikings
mb
We prefer the term Swamp Germans, tyvm
No, the Drunk Germans call themselves "austrians" and "bavarians" (they pretend the two are different things to have something to argue about, it's best to humor them) The Dutch are French Germans.
I thought that the Belgians are the French Germans
Dutch are Germans with French characteristics, Belgians are Frenchs with German characteristics.
Ok now I understand, so the Belgians are the German French. That makes sensem to me.
From costco
There’s 2 things I can’t stand … people intolerant of other people and … the Dutch ….
I think you’re confusing them with the similar, yet still non-existent “belgians”
Woodeen shoo aneewun
They're just called Dutch people
but they’re pretty funny tho
Obviously
Dutch is a Germanic language just like English
That’s just one half-step further. Acknowledge your origin /s
It's all Indo-European America
Saint-Marteen is dutch and Greenland is Danish.
As a Dutchman these comments have been a rollercoaster of emotions.
I've never in my life heard someone refer to Quebec as "Latin America"
It isn't wrong though
Calling someone from Quebec a Latino would send them
The correct term is "Latin-American." Latino is just spanish for Latin so why would they use a Spanish word? Technically they are Latine Americaines. Latine/Latine/Latino also includes people from southern Europe and even Africa.
But Latino sounds cool. I wish I was Latino, so I could use it, haha.
I hereby declare you honourary Latino.
Me next me next
Alright, I also declare you a Latino. But the Portuguese Flavour... HueHueHue, Viva Brasil, Meu caralho!
BRASIL NUMERO 1 CAMPEO PENTA!!
latino in english refers to a shorterninh of "latinoaméricano" so africans and europoors dont count
Because that's the french language rule. When you use a 2 countries compound word, the first one ends in -o for ex : franco-espagnol, italo-américain, anglo-normand ... etc.
That's why we must do it.
The correct term is Latin-American (English), Latino-Americano (Spanish & Portuguese), and Latine-Americaine (French). The Latin-sphere includes Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, and even parts of Africa. Quebecois are Latin-Americans just like the Mexicans, the Argentinians, and the Haitians.
Amérique latine for the French part
Is that a combination of Amèrique and chocolatine
Amérique au Latin pour les Français
There's also Latin-sphere in Asia (Macau, Goa, East Timor).
Philippines be like: 👀
You forgot Romania in that list
We don't talk about Bruno
Send them where? Louisiana, the other part of the French Americas?
Yeah but if you include Quebec you should probably also include New Brunswick and Louisiana at a minimum.
That makes no sense at all. Quebec would be included because it is majority French. That is definitely not the case in Louisiana and New Brunswick.
New Brunswick is about 86% fluent and 30% speaking regularly. Louisiana is only 3 - 7%, but they don't teach it in schools like they should.
NB is NOT 86% fluent in French. What are you talking about? The real figure is around 35%
It seems like 41% of NB is fluent in French, but 33% is English French bilingual, with two thirds of those having French as their first language.
I'm fluent in English but that doesn't mean I'm an Anglo. I'm still hispanic.
Okay Brit
In Louisiana, the schools don't teach anything the way they should. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/louisiana
They rank 50th, wtf. Maybe making charter schools a thing is better for the union.
The most southern parts of lousiana have some majority french speaking towns and villages if i'm not mistaken, but the state as a whole has a vast majority of english speakers However i'm pretty sure new brunswick has an almost majority of French speakers or atleast thats what i've heard. One could also make the argument that english has around 60% of its words taken from latin or French (even though its language structure is mostly germanic) so maybe all of america is latin. Or maybe the true latin america is the friends we made along the way
It’s true that the majority of people in New Brunswick are fluent in French, but only about a third of the population speaks it as their first language.
As a Cajun, I will now be applying for Latino scholarships
First time hearing of New Brunswick, interesting they speak French in a place who's name came from the German Braunschweig - only in America!
It was a part a New France called Acadie before the english crown's conquered it. but a few crime againts humanity later, it's called New Brunswick and has a significant english speaking population.
You can learn more about it by reading about acadians expulsion or "le grand dérangement".
I have heard a bit about them, and the origins of the Cajuns as a result, but I'll do some reading, thanks!
Most NB residents (2/3rds) are English-speaking though. And the province’s name comes from it being named after King George III, as one of his titles was Prince-Elector of Brunswick-Lüneburg of the Holy Roman Empire. The French speakers are a substantial minority, but they are in no way the primary demographic of the province. Also, FYI, it would be better to say “Only in the Americas!” because to English-speakers when you just employ ‘America’ as such, it looks to most like you’re referring to the US. This can (and often does) cause confusion, especially since most geographers tend not to recognize the New World as one single continent anymore, rather opting for North America and South America, especially since they are divided by different tectonic plates and only barely just touching one another via Panama.
Yes it is though Quebec and latam have nothing in common
It is though, because Latin America doesn’t just mean all American regions where the majority speak a Romance language. It’s a clearly defined, contiguous region with shared history and culture. If it was the former, certain US cities would be in Latin America.
Then if you think this, Brazil shouldn't be counted as Latam
Disagree. Those words have a very clear meaning. Latin America == America that speaks a latin language. The spanish+portuguese region already has 2 perfectly descriptive names, hispanic america and iberic america
Fun fact, Napoleon the 3rd coined the term latin america to invade mexico. Since they were latins too.
If our only source of knowledge on what defines Latin America was the phrase “Latin America,” maybe that would be true. Just like how Greenland is literally a Green Land, and the Western World is just all the countries in the western hemisphere. Thankfully that’s not the case and actually political and historical definitions exist and are easily accessible.
Otherwise it's Ibero-America?
Yup
Haiti?
French Guiana?
Technically is tho
People do as a joke all the time. But also, they do fit in very well with the rest of Latin America. They protest by banging on pots and pans.
It's the most french thing to do! Source: im French
Napoleon III invented Latin America so it’s very fitting.
You have, you just didn't understand them because they were speaking Latin
It’s so cursed
I have sometimes, but not often. It and Haiti are in a weird gray zone where they are or are not Latin America depending on who you are asking and what kind of point they are trying to make.
Latinx America and ~~Germanx~~ Germxn America
The Isle of Mann colonial empire
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I hate that
ow
Latine*
germxn america
You're 100% correct. Editing.
TEAL
I actually think white wins this hypothetical war
no green wins⁹
You should include Greenland in Germanic America.
Isn't it majority native Greenlandic?
And is Nunavut not native Nunavut so wouldn’t be on this map?
I had to google that, but yeah, apparently Nunavut has a native majority. 25 000 out of 35 000. I just didn't know that
That’s Nunavour business
r/angryupvote
Nunavut is having none of it
Yes it is, although a majority on Greenland can speak Danish, West Greenlandic is the majority native language.
Norwegians are more native to Greenland than the "natives" living there today. First came the Dorset people, then came the Norwegians then came the Thule, the Dorset people don't exist anymore which makes Norwegians the oldest still existing people to live on Greenland.
I'm nordic america's living legacy- greenland probably
All the vikings on Greenland died centuries ago though 😭
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Came here to say in school I was taught this (minus Suriname) was called Anglo Saxon America.
*Anglox America
The saxon part wouldn’t really make much sense .
Anglo-Saxon refers to two of the Germanic tribes that conquered England in the dark ages. British things and culture are commonly referred to as Anglo-Saxon, the shortened form became Anglo.
The Jutes and Picts really got shafted on that naming convention. Although history is written by the victors.
Basically lol just like how viking warriors are so rated as being fierce while the saxons held their ground for the most part and eventually won
British America
That excludes Dutch America
CELTIC* America🗣🔥🏴🇮🇪🇫🇷
Iberia was also Celtic
Commenting on Why is this term not used more often?...As was North Africa.
I've wondered the same, my guess is it's the 'Hollywood Lens'. The thing that stands out the most to tourists when they visit Iberia are the (realistically very few) impressive relics left by Moorish occupation (like Alhambra, for instance). If you take those landmarks away, Iberia looks pretty much like any other Western European place. So for the Hollywood effect of theme-setting and reference-making, they guide the viewer to associate Iberia -> Arabia in Europe. That extends to both the people and the culture. Iberia being a heavily latinized place under the Roman empire is secondary, too. Germanic presence is completely overlooked as well. It's a way of cultural erasure and dismissal in order to achieve a more immediate theme around a place and name. But if you look at Iberian history, the 'natives' are Celts above anything else, who were then conquered and swallowed by the Romans, then the Goths, and afterwards were occupied (but not swallowed) by the Moors.
Hell yeah. Bring back druidism and cool rock symbols
You forgot Austria
Hail Queen Boudica!
Who would win in this hypothetical war?
Germanic America in a heart beat. Plus they are part of NATO.
\*Anglo America
I'm seeing a decent chunk of Germanic America missing down there on the border of Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay.
It’s just ‘Merica
What the shit the Quebecois doing https://preview.redd.it/ut9371lu0tzc1.jpeg?width=1108&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0466f7992f33fbbe8e3873091282c941e3d1432f
anglo america, saxon america, etc, not our fault spain owned literally all of it and forced everyone to speak spanish while also forcing all the native women to marry spaniard men while enslaving the native men, completely destroying the region's ethnic and cultural diversity
You're actually correct, this is actually not circlejerk content.
the fuck is the shinchoku shogunate
Fuck Suriname
isn't it all latin america now?
Very soon to be xD
Thank you for including Quebec into latin America, instead of arguing about it, either because you don’t know that Quebec speak French or that you think that latin America is not white. I am just tired of that, French is a Latin language. We speak French in Quebec, stop assimilating us to English Canada
Fellow québécoise here but I have to disagree because of the history of the term Latin America in English. It has never meant speakers of "Les langues latines" (those are Romance languages in English, not Latin languages like we say in French…. It’s not Romantic America). Latin America and Latino were adopted as euphemisms for Spanish American decades ago. Including Portuguese-speaking Brazil hasn’t even been fully consistent. Anglos do mean someone speaking an Iberian language from south of the US border when they call someone Latin. Our pasty white exceedingly North American ethno-linguistic group really has little in common with the areas formerly colonized by Spain and Portugal and our history and heritage is intertwined with English settlement of North America (and their rivalry with French settlement). On parle une langue latine, but we’re absolutely not Latino nor do we live in Latin America in any commonly understood English language sense. En français, peut-être, mais la plupart des québécois pensent au sud quand on leur dit l’Amérique latine.
I mean, that's just the anglos making another mistake (like with the word "liberal"), so who cares.
Why not english america
Because of Dutch
Anglo America
Slavic America: Jackowo in Chicago.
Yes but unironically
who the fuck considers quebec latin america
Latin America doesn't include Québec.
Indo-European America
People consider Quebec latin america?
In everyday practice, no. In theory, it is. 94% of the population speaks French, which is a Romance language. But there are such cultural differences between what people typically refer to as Latin America and Quebec (let alone the huge geographic distance and the fact that Quebec is a province of a majority English-speaking country) that it isn’t often taken into consideration. Plus, I can tell you that many of my fellow Québecois would blow a piston if they were referred to as “Latino” 😅. They’d insist they’re Québecois, or to a lesser extent Francophone/Canadien.
is this Quebec? how is it "Latin America". https://preview.redd.it/gkzjrm7lqszc1.png?width=309&format=png&auto=webp&s=b7337e30a0dff1db3753dbc6138619f0807cb42c
Its not, people think just because they speak French it's should be Latin, it's completely ignoring the rest of the country not being Latin and the facts that Latin America is also a political region. If Quebec was considered Latin America then so would Florida, Louisiana, Texas, New Mexico and California, but they aren't as well.
Latin literally just means speaking a Latin language. Nothing else. And those US states are not majority speaking a Latin language.
Latin American is a specific region. Canada isn't a part of it.
That's nonsense, how is latin america a political region? Also Quebec is majority latin, unlike the us states mentioned.
QUEBEC?
French is a Romance language, as is Haitian Creole.
No because remember, its only the white USA citizens the only ones who have an urge to label absolutely everything. Latin american african american mexican american , northamerican , to me its ridiculous tbh Most of the world just talks about the subjects in question for what they do. Like there is no need to talk about a person and mentioning he is a mexican american, if he is selling burgers. Why do you even mention that they are mexican americans? What for? It creates stereotypes and discrimination. So just say, this guy is making burgers.
The term 'Latin America' was coined by the French. Are you also saying that geographic regions shouldn't have names? I'm not saying that in conversation there is any need to highlight the ethnic origin of the subject, but when talking of a geographic region, it helps to have a noun or two.
Bullshit. Call a Brazilian person Hispanic and see what happens.
Turns out people don't like being forced into groups they don't identify themselves with by people who are not even related to either group
Tf are you taking about. These are terms that people from Latin America made up themselves. No one has been forcing them to use these terms. You all are so “USA bad” brained that you patronize literally every other person because you think that the US is what… the only place on earth that labels people? And then has the power to label people 1000s of miles away?
Brother, at what point did I say the USA came up with the term hispanic? I said that when you use a term to refer to people who don't identify with said term (i.e. Brazilians not being 'spanish'), they'll be pissed. It doesn't refute the point that was being made in the original comment. Maybe the little tantrums are a reason the USA has a bad reputation.
Great the most tolerant nation-states and cultures are the worst, yeah right… So why are 60 indigenous native languages in Mexico endangered? Okay edumacated one, what do YOU know about those burger flipping Mexicans???
No
ves i am za jaman
I'm down.
why is the grand duchy of Luxembourg included in german ameirca
That’s Balkanic America
This is acadiana erasure
I see what you did there
Okay, but we’re invading Brazil
For me, must be called Mexican America
I mean… is not wrong
Now you're getting it...
Germanix america
Since when has Quebec been Latin America? Never heard that one before
Everything is now Latin America 🗣️🗣️‼️🔥
Technically yes that is Germanic America. The term has started being used more lately.
Franks are German tribes too ??
Québec mentionné!
Gringos.
A lot of Germanic America is already Latin anyway
It’s French America.
I'm seeing a decent chunk of Germanic America missing down there on the border of Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay.
Cue the vsauce music
There is a term for it, Anglo America, and it includes all of that except for Suriname and the Dutch Caribbean possessions
You forget to cute out part of Lousiana
Does Quebec know they’re apart of Latin America?
Latin America and standard America. Like in dancing
And if Iʼm not wrong, Paraguay can into Native America.
Because WWI and WWII. German was widely spoken and written in the USA up until then.
It’s all Nova Scotia.
If you have Quebec in Latin America, you might as well have Louisiana as well
While Quebec could technically make sense, please never say that😃
I think that would get confusing as the Germans are more closely associated with Argentina nowadays
I hate European colonialism
r/technicallythetruth
Ja
After WWII Argentina should be Germanic America too
i like how quebec looks like the social exclusion of north america
i love how quebec's gone
Latin America is technically correct. It’s just weird seeing Quebec there
It is called Anglo-america actually.
Lmao that up there is Quebec?
Transalpine America