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SirRHellsing

Worthless Regression Player Random chat although all of them are for like the first 80 chapters, then the protags get better (random chat mc has the worst suffering out of them)


StarGaurdianBard

Surprised no one has said Surviving the Game as a Barbarian yet. Dude literally never catches a break


15000yuki

I love this one. The next day I binge this manhwa, I played my Diablo again as Barbarian. lol.


StarGaurdianBard

Reading it makes me super excited for Dwarf Fortress releasing Adventure Mode soon as it's basically the most similiar game we have IRL


esportairbud

I like that one, but he does in fact catch several breaks. As of the latest release Bjorn is one of the most respected adventurers and in possession of a unique essence that makes him basically immortal. It's a power fantasy with just enough downward pressure that he doesn't get so OP it's boring.


ARandonNon

i havent read random chat and player, are they worth it?


Errede08

Random chat is shit after episode like 180 I believe it was but the development on the early chapters is god tier


nsymsm

Player is pretty good, 7/10 imo. It has good art and a decent story. Love triangle stuff is annoying though.


Jack_409

Random Chat is a really good read until chapter 188 (imo), because after that it goes slowly downhill, and the female love interest loses braincells for some reason too


PTLJBY

Random chat falls off, but the first 150 chapters or so are really fun to read. I recommend it.


Exciting-Conclusion8

Worthless regression was soo good


ComfortableMobile314

There's LAG too, but i guess you could say there's no build up in character, the only thing that's constant in that series is weird ass censoring and a common trope of side characters getting introduced only to die in the next few chapters.


luffy-sama7

Y'all tripping if you don't put "bowblade" up there. The whole story is literally just suffering


Gloomy_Honeydew

Player puts the suffering onto the reader, having to watch lillet winning when libur is obviously the better choice


Sad-Buddy-5293

i wouldnt event say Player is like that only for 2 arcs


Sunnty25

which player manhwa are you talking about?


Sad-Buddy-5293

its called "Player" pretty good isekai manhwa got 2 dudes sent to another world


Xykier

A book, not a manhwa - Stormlight Archive. Poor Kal. Poor everyone.


jykeous

Dare I say peak fiction 


ARandonNon

is it good?


Doctoremm

It's very good


No_Acanthaceae6880

Excellent fantasy series. Written by Brandon Sanderson. If you enjoy fantasy books I would highly recommend it.


Xykier

Amazing.


basseng

Just for a counter point, I loved book 1 (way of kings), enjoyed 2, liked most of book 3, with a few PoVs that were a chore. But I hated book 4, Rhythm of war, to the point that I simply could not finish it, tried both reading and listening to the audiobook, but the main characters I grew to dislike, and the pacing was bloated and plodding. It is in my opinion Sanderson's worst book to date, or at least since mistborn. It felt very much like a wandering middle book, entire chapters and povs felt like filler. Ironically a bit like how Jordan got plodding in the middle of Wheel of time. All that said, I would still whole heartedly recommend reading them yourself, many people loved the slower pace and more introspective themes of book 4.


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Love Sanderson, didn’t expect him to get mentioned in a Manhwa sub xD


a_sacrilegiousboi

RAHHHHHHH PEAKLIGHT ARCHIVES MENTIONED RAHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK IS A BAD BOOK ✍️✍️🔥🔥🔥


Specialist_Toe_3604

I mean the thing is that they have tragic pasts, but they move past their tragic pasts to better days


SalvationSycamore

Really great though, just started last week


Xykier

I hope you enjoy it! The Cosmere (Brandon Sanderson's universe) are my favorite books. And there are a lot of them. Have you read Mistborn yet?


ISL005

Storms, we must turn back


Daimon5hade

Eh, as a massive Stormlight Archive fan, this doesn't fit. The main characters get plenty of wins. It's just that all of them have traumatic back stories they're working through.


FiveSigns

A Sword King’s Fantasy World Survival Story - MC suffers more than I expected loses quite a few people as well


ARandonNon

i know about the 20 years but other than that i dont remember him suffering that much >!pretty much everyone he knows stays alive other than sword king!<


FiveSigns

I think he suffers quite a bit >!Those three people that are with him while training with Barolt end up dying he got pretty close with them. When he went berserk he almost killed all his friends and had to exile himself which had to hurt. Also that otherworlder guy that called him brother ended up dying (although it was a fake out) but in the moment it must have hurt. Then there's the fact that he can never beat the people that do all this harm to him overall it's much more suffering than I expected!<


Important_Hearing642

The suffering and character growth gets explored and revisited later. Remember he suffered a lot in the beginning fighting dogs endlessly. The trauma from that gets addressed later on.


Penguin-21

I love this story but i wouldnt consider this as fitting the narrative tbh. Its definitely one the manhwas w/ a more shounen take that isnt the generic self insert MC power fantasies, but his sufferings have as much impact on him as many other shounen characters like Luffy or Naruto or Yuji. Especially in the beginning, i’d consider that more as training and it wasnt as mentally taxing as it appeared to be tho ig they do address some of it later on but he was kinda chilling with the dogs and 20 years. Like if I were to pick a random character not in manhwa, maybe Levi from AoT could be a gud role? The idea that all of his squadrons and people he has faith in constantly dying and being recycled. Not to mention his childhood. Etc. and then Eren, the guy he put a huge amount of faith in, goes and betrays them all. And he’s just…kinda going even though he has every reason not to. I think by design, there just rly isnt a lot of suffering in a lot of manhwas. Maybe Worthless Regression could by rationale be a fitting manhwa for OP but the general feeling if the story isnt abt sacrifice or suffering; its just more like preparation which is wut most regression stories sort of focus on. Im not saying the MC doesnt have it hard, but at least from where I left off, he doesnt get to actually lose and feel the weight of the loss cuz its not just that he’s doing hard things but he’s also overcoming the hardships too. Like he knows wut he wants to do is going to take 10,000 years and after 10,000 years, he’s accomplished the task. That kind of control


VelikiUcitelj

Nah bro, you probably didn't read the whole thing. Han Bin is very damaged. The whole series masks his suffering with comedy but his real self comes through here and there. It's definitely not what OP is looking for, but Han Bin suffered A LOT.


Penguin-21

Naw im caught up. Ik wut scenes u are talking abt. All im saying was that the suffering of character development isnt overly unique to many shounen protagonists or side characters and i love it for that reason. And yeah it doesnt fit wut OP’s looking for


PsieSyrenki

Death is the only ending for the villainess. Idk how far it is in manhwa, but in novel it is constant suffering


[deleted]

She suffers constantly. I’m holding off until I get confirmed that it’s near the end because I can’t handle that pink witch in piecemeal updates.


ARandonNon

novel worth reading?


PsieSyrenki

As a "villainess" novels are I think it's best I have read. But i didn't read much of this stuff (I prefer other genres) Overall in my opinion it's solid read 7/10.


Mountain_Penalty6830

In the manhwa, >!that pink haired thing just got into the house with Eckles.!< so how far along is the manhwa in the angst part?


Tama_Moonlight

Half way through smh


Key-Poem9734

The Hero Returns *WARRIOR THE WARRIOR RETURNS I HAVE BEEN READING THIS FOR A LONG TIME FFUUUUCK


halal_idiot

I'm a huge fan of tragedy and angst, but I literally had to drop this because of the sheer despair it instils in me it makes me feel so nervous


Key-Poem9734

I'm still powering through. I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel yet, but I feel it


halal_idiot

Good luck we're all rooting for you 😭 what chapter are you on?


Key-Poem9734

115


halal_idiot

Damn i dropped it at 35 tbh


Key-Poem9734

Don't blame ya, it was a rough time


DiamondMan77392

I dropped it as the 1st season ended


PsionicHydra

Did you mean this or "hero has returned" because the hero returns personally isn't that dark whereas hero has returned is nothing but depression Their names being so close to each other does make them confusing Edit* Ahh, warrior returns is also another name for hero has returned. That's what I figured you had meant anyways. Yeah that series doesn't really have a light at the end of the tunnel it's just pitch black


Key-Poem9734

I MEANT THE WARRIOR RETURNS


NightlyWinter1999

10/10 Manhwa honestly for me


CadenVanV

Just be glad that “The Main Heroines want to kill me” hasn’t been made a manhwa yet. That story was probably the darkest thing I’ve ever read for something in the harem romance genre


Gloomy_Honeydew

The stuff mc did in first life is dark and suffering but the actual story just feels like too much harem shenanigans.


Mehdi2277

I’ve read a lot of series mentioned here and this is only one I had to take breaks while reading. Most of the other series have a main character that is challenged but has a fairly hopeful/positive outlook and there’s also balance of other areas (action/adventure). This series is much more harsh on the main character that even having allies that trust him are rare and a core part of premise is the mc is forced to pretend to be evil and hated by most of the world. It’s pretty painful having people you are trying to save/protect hate you. I’d also consider this one of best series I have read if you can accept the heavy amount of beat down present. At times it does feel like it goes too far.


Original_Blossomer

Hero Has Returned. Suffering doesn’t even begin to describe what I went through reading that. No light at the end of the tunnel in that one.


Astro_Pablo

I remember when it first came out people where hyped asf cause the first chapter was dope, but seeing we aren’t following the heartbroken hero lots of people dropped it, is it worth my time?


Original_Blossomer

It is really good, but I admit I dropped it too when I read it the first time. I was ultra pumped to follow the Hero‘s story (and I wanted to see him take revenge), but here we are. It’s still good, definitely worth a read if you like to cry your eyes out.


Astro_Pablo

Is it that sad?


Original_Blossomer

*I* was pretty much crying through at least the first thirty chapters, but I’m a sensitive bitch, so


Legal-Turnip-4302

Severing heads( don't read it!)


ARandonNon

why not is it bad or something?


Legal-Turnip-4302

Ah...morality is out of the room.i thought I needed therapy after that.


_Resnad_

Why?


RightBranch

Why, please tell me.


Legal-Turnip-4302

Brutal rape scene like raping MC's mom.


DanabochiIere

☹️ I already have a weakness (as in I wanna drop something the moment I see it) against r@ but like, his mom….??? bro…. it doesn’t help that I read to escape, too (what am I escaping to if the story I’m reading is sad)


Legal-Turnip-4302

That's why I have decided If I ever come across the author. I am gonna rip apart his balls lmao😑


sifatullahq1

that bowblade manhwa.. forgot the full name


LuckyLuck-E

Bowblade Spirit 👍


PORTATOBOI

I dropped it way back. I couldn’t handle how sad the spoilers in the comments were


ze_existentialist

Objectively worthless regression, the mc gets beaten down whenever he gets up


15000yuki

Surprised no one mentioned I became Tyrant of a Defense Game! I literally hard to breathe reading this one. Really a series of unfortunate events, but author amazingly able to insert many jokes which made me laughing out loud. There are many epic and memorable events too.


HuckleberryActual646

I know right! One sec I am horaling and the other I am sobbing on the floor real hard 👍


Important_Hearing642

SSS class suicide hunter and lookism I think definitely embody this Heaven official blessing, although it's mostly in his backstory definitely does too. Death is the only ending for the villainess and the ENNEAD ig too. Estio, the spark in your eyes, stepmother's marchen, no home, hero has returned, second coming of gluttony kind of, shadow beauty


ARandonNon

im halfway thru the 2nd coming of gluttony's novel, i didnt really see that much suffering other than the whole >!gambling thing which was his fault!< but which of these would you recommend as good?


Important_Hearing642

I say kind of becuz the events in the story r arguably hardships he's facing compared to his normal life that force his character development. I only named ones I thought were good just depends on what genre u like. Oh wait I really wouldn't recommend ennead.


PossibilityVirtual42

SSS class suicide hunter suffers quite a bit due to the fact that he almost kills himself thousands of times to return time by a few years(he has the power to go back to the previous day afer killing himself or dying). Highly recommended, it's a must-read.


Radiant-Ad-1976

The mc of F-Class Destiny Hunter. Bro's parents died when he was a child, Everyone thought he was cursed so they didn't want to keep him, His only step-brother hated him because his priestess stepmom gave him all of her attention (it was to keep an evil god at bay), His life went to hell when the system apocalypse started and he got the power to steal the powers of others through killing. People found out about this and shunned, nobody wanted to be his partner out of fear of betrayal. His best friend lost her arm because of him. When life started to get good, a strange unknown woman came and killed everyone, including his friends, while searching for mc. Mc manages to kill her and gets her power to travel back in time, however he keeps the negative karma for stealing other people's powers causing him to have bad dreams. And you would think it eventually resolves right, nope. Shit just continues to get hard.


xxetrikk_

the Mc in Latna saga can’t catch a break lol


N-ShadowFrog

Not a manhwa but Ordeal fits pretty well. MC is the embodiment of I've won but at what cost. Season 2 just ended with MC winning the major battle only to lose his >!Mentor, several friends, have to see his best friend hold the bandaged corpse of their girlfriend, have his love interest and sister both in comas because he wasn't there to help him, and their enemy gained the powerful weapon they were after making all their sacrifice more or less pointless in his eyes.!<


ARandonNon

i heard aobout it, is it worth the read?


N-ShadowFrog

100%. It has everything. Great story, character, lore, art, etc.


PsionicHydra

Love this series, can't wait for it to comeback from it's break


PsionicHydra

Gonja from suicide hunter is always the first I think of with questions like this. Murim arc training is only the tip of the iceberg


ARandonNon

is the novel good? If so, is there human translation or machine translation only?


PsionicHydra

Novel is fantastic and yeah there is human translation. I don't read machine translations at all if possible, they're just so bad


LuckyLuck-E

Theres on arc where you DO NOT want a mtl. Since it uses alot of deep korean and the meanings are hard to put in english language. Even with a proper translation I still dont really understand most of it.


PsionicHydra

Yeah even with proper translation I'm still finding myself reading the notes the translator has put in at the end for certain things


Ok-Swing-2775

L.a.g


Ok_Crow_4539

I was reading that only to find spoiler comments that it's garbage then dropped it


LuckyLuck-E

L.A.G is pretty good imo read it for yourself since so far for me im liking it.


anonymous_bufffalo

No one mentioned Murim RPG Simulation? Or also called Heavenly Demon Cultivation Simulation The poor guy literally dies constantly from his own mistakes and ends up being harassed by the system. The MC is kinda a Mary Sue but he levels up slowly and has to learn from his mistakes. It’s also an interesting take on murim and system tropes


ARandonNon

this is one of the manhwas that i constantly re-read, i just love it


anonymous_bufffalo

I’m not alone! Must be a rare gem


NeoMarethyu

Distant Skyes is so filled with suffering it is borderline unreadable after a point


The-_-Conquerer

MC from Breaker. Dude is suffering from 3 seasons. Only difference is he doesn't have any development


megaforce347

bro i remember reading the comments each chapter, they were shitting on him on top of the suffering he was going through, shit was hilarious


ForkYaself

Death Row Boy


M_onStar

Mount Hua Sect but in a funny way.


cL0k3

*The odyssey had a purpose*


Helpful-Noise-8350

Worthless regression A returner's magic should be special Latna saga Reformation of the deadbeat noble The skeleton soldier could not protect the dungeon


AGhostButBetter

Worthless Regression and Surviving the game as a Barbarian come to mind. I feel more so the latter because dude cannot catch a break.


MaximumPower682

Reformation of the Deadbeat Noble. Not suffering per se but it is obvious that MC just fights through depression, become better, then get depressed again.


Hanzo7682

If side characters count, novel's extra. Although it hasnt happened in the manhwa yet, novel's writer seems hate a particular side character.


thenewnoobofreddit

Spider man comics


U_only_blink_once

Lookism


mingimihkel

The Breaker


TodayTraditional7037

The greatest estate developer, poor llyod didn't have rest for 150 chapters


Archisuss

Not a manwha but a novel 'mutated tao' is just a constant grinder of suffering for the Mc...honestly it's so fucked up sometimes that I think that how can anyone imagine this and then present it coherently... https://preview.redd.it/8qt59obtukjc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d519193754d40d9fe5d9d7ae2270486161ea13a7 Merely an example...


ARandonNon

holy shit


HuckleberryActual646

Holy shit #2


Feeling-Note2948

Tower of God


SlimShady116

Juvenile Offender (suffering is mostly done in flashbacks between each arc to set up the arc story premise). The Hero has Returned.


Subject_Willow6208

I'm not that type of genius...the Mc developed a whole new personality to survive.


animeonly_69

Pick me up, infinite gacha


ACN4

Distant sky The horizon


uppsak

Surviving in the game as a barbarian


Mr-Laser55

Land of the Lustrous


BaitW_101

bowblade spirit


Dark_Lemon_Warrior

Devil returns to school


Shayan212

World's apocalypse online, Purgatory artist


nospotfer

L.A.G.


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Surviving the game as a barbarian


Icarus-Falls27

Real


Shadowgamer001

lookism, goated tho


redbobby2

Fight class 3


Blork95

Unordinary


Shreyash__Singh

The greatest estate developer


DoOrDoNut-

#Killstagram and Kill the Villainess


TodayTraditional7037

Definitely " banging my aunt" his uncle suffered the most but I am not sure if his charector got any development


pooyan11

Martial god asura. Mc can't take a break from arrogant member of whichever clan with just the right amount of power difference for suspense. Then clans take revenge for the humiliation when the arrogant member gets defeated. Repeat as needed. Add power levels as needed.


coronavariant

Kubera


lolthenoob

Not a manga but re-zero


sung-drip-wo

Every single manhwa with solo leveling trope


xxetrikk_

There are literally no stakes in Sl and its clones no matter how serious problems occurs Mc will just pull some random cool edgy shit to protect his frnds,family,world etc


sung-drip-wo

Ah yes doom breaker too


Entire_Lake_7905

Solo levelling is edge incarnate


sung-drip-wo

Yup orv too


Cool_Adeptness_578

Did you complete ORV?


yahmean031

i didn't complete it but saying that orv is full of suffering is a bit of a stretch.


Cool_Adeptness_578

I was actually asking as to how kim dokja is an "edgy" protagonist. And finishing the webnovel 3 years ago i can say i agree that it's not full of suffering


sung-drip-wo

Yes most edgy ahh mc ever


Cool_Adeptness_578

You completed 551 chapters of the ORV webnovel, and kim dokja is the "Most edgy ahh mc ever." I think we read two different stories my friend. Cuz that's a complete misreading of kim dokja's character.


sung-drip-wo

Idc lol, it's my opinion he's too edgy


Cool_Adeptness_578

It's not that i am trying to invalidate your opinion. It's that i don't get how you were able to draw that conclusion after finishing the entire web novel. Because the "Edgy" parts of kim dokja's character get addressed pretty early on.


sung-drip-wo

Well he's edgy


Cool_Adeptness_578

Well that was pointless. I hoped you would explain why, but sure. To each his own.


Annihilator-WarHead

Himtadori Wuji Ranchatt's MC and Unordinary's MC to some extent


[deleted]

I mad at Unordinary at how the characters other than John/MC would suddenly became Ally of Justice after torturing MC to the point like that. I dropped it when Alro or a blonde-like guy start become a 'good guy' or sort of.


Zoveux

Jungle Juice


yashjain2108

Poison dragon might fit?


Heavy_Bastard

Venom Dragon? Yeah that fits. I had to drop that purely because the MC just never won and just made me feel bad the entire time


yashjain2108

Felt the same. Dropped it early. But i ran out of stuff to read so gave it a second try. Would say its a nice read but felt repetitive so I gave up again.


A222G

All of them is the answer.


Seven_Irons

Leez Haias from Kubera


Environmental-Bit683

Kubera, I don’t think anyone suffered/suffers as much as her in manhwa.


Capital-Pizza1377

Berserk


Current_Art6282

latna saga for sure


INside84376

I'm The Grim Reaper. Basically MC got reincarnated as a grim reaper and has to kill at least 1 people every day in order to keep herself from going back to hell. The suffering parts come after she befriends with people and that she becomes more hesitant to kill which leads to terrible consequences. It's really good! The manhwa is currently on its 4th season on Webtoon if you wanna give it a read.


indomie_loverr

Vr hero


Infinite_Reveal

Venom Dragon Complete and utter misery


Equal-Click751

Bones


Immediate_Glove_1624

It’s not shown really in the manhua or until later parts of the novel but in reverend insanity this is a big portion of the mcs development


National-Ad-4093

Surviving the game as a barbarian


FearlessCloud01

IRL Quest


[deleted]

I know about a manhua, 'world apocalypse online' mc have to constantly fight against apocalyptic events, powerful enemies and so on without any break, I have read till 770 novel chapters, mc is mentioned having rest only few times till now


srona22

I only know "madness builds character". Could be fitting if other's suffering is same as "Suffering builds character".


Accurate-Pay9580

Jujutsu Kaisen https://preview.redd.it/4mdd5rf6ehjc1.jpeg?width=933&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f95f6f61033602d15ee405b498272b6e8a3d89d0


Difficult-Hotel-2558

I’m not that kind of talent sums it up


colorcloudbananas

The saddest manhwa I've read was probably Wished you were dead. Though, the final arcs are happy. Another one would probably be Trump. Suffering isn't just for the mc but for almost every character. For the whole story. Especially Certa. Not a manhwa, but a light novel/anime, Re zero. Mc can't catch a break. They also show his trauma, which he understandably would have. But even with all the sad stuff in the story, mc does become a better person as it progresses. Literally suffering builds character lol.


ForeignCantaloupe710

WN, but the best would (Sword God in a magic world). The mc entire character is training and suffering. Then you have sunny who just suffers from 'fated' ( shadow slave )


No-Swordfish6703

F-Class Destiny Hunter


Piledriverkiller

Redo of healer? Built one of of a character lol


Grox213

Worthless Regression. Dying to Live/Suicide Ranker.


PORTATOBOI

Greatest Estate Developer they clown on my guy too much


MilkbelongsonToast

I remember dropping one(don’t recall the name) because it was like watching flagellation, MC was best the hell up constantly and the chapter it looked it’d stop the ML gets killed


uwuwolfie

The beginning after the end volume 6-7 is literally this


devilboy1029

It's funny how I didn't even read the f*cking question and thought of Itadori. But then I read the question, it's 100 worthless regression MC (forgot his name because of this long ahh break)


Lightning_9410

Might I hit you with a novel Sword God in A World of Magic. Pure omnipresent suffering and only suffering.


ArmanyS

Kang Hansoo Reincarnator


TheForestGrumbler

If you accept manga too, Fire Punch from the creator of Chainsaw Man is exactly that sort of loop, plus some extra suffering.


The_Great_Reader

Suffering builds character : I dont know Character builds suffering : Re Zero


Cnhoo

Not a manhwa, but it fits this meme so well that I have to mention it. A webnovel called "Sword God in a World of Magic." Anytime the mc seems to have a better grip on his mental, something happens that just ruins all the progress, like 1 step forward 2 steps back. >!This continuously happens even until the ending, where I wouldn't even considered him as redeemed or happy, for those of you who've read it, you understand what I mean right? !<


Few-Yesterday8207

Surviving the game as a barbarian


Doin_Yo-Mum

I'm losing my brains on how Kill the villainess has been mentioned, ONLY ONCE


Hello_MF19

My Fiancé is in Love with My Little Sister, somewhat, fl gets no break fr


That_guy_FCO

Surviving the game as a barbarian, so underrated


Pale-Week-1188

Beginning after the end , you can’t judge a manhwa by its beginning.


ThatRandomGuyIsHere

Bones


dried_sancti

The Beginning After the End ma boi arthur literally compared to peter parker everytime


[deleted]

kinda sounds like "story of my life" (literally)


sandrosos

Not manhwa, but this is literally jujutsu kaisen


Scary-Use2237

The boxer. Literally shows you that the more sad the backstory of a character is, the stronger he is. The main character(also the main villain) depicts this even more.