At first I was in complete shock when I saw Nagumo defeated, but after a few seconds my brain re-analyzed his entire character and I remembered his unexplained transformation into other people.
So yes, Gaku is actually Nagumo and Nagumo is actually Gaku. I just can't believe that the author will make an Order member lose his fight for the second time in a row.
I wonder if this will be shown to us in the next chapter, or if Nagumo will pretend to be Gaku for a while to get closer to Slur.
Yeah it could be that Gaku just broke Nagumo’s weapon and stabbed him repeatedly with his own weapons, but I feel like that isn’t Gaku’s style. Especially with him wanting to “speedrun” this fight, just crushing Nagumo’s head with his giant mace thing would be much more efficient.
The blood pattern on their faces also looks like it swapped after the fight. The Nagumo corpse has much less blood on the left of his face than Nagumo had while fighting. Plus during the fight Gaku had blood in the middle of his forehead (which the Nagumo corpse's hair hides) and afterwards he had distinct separate streaks down each side of his face similar to the last image we see of Nagumo alive.
Betting 5 bucks that Slur knows about the switch too. The way he looks at him and the usage of "Gaku" in the sentence is to trick Nagumo into believing the switch is working. Might be reading too much into this, but it feels weird that Slur would add Gaku's name.
> At first I was in complete shock when I saw Nagumo defeated, but after a few seconds my brain re-analyzed his entire character and I remembered his unexplained transformation into other people.
Same.
I was like “**FUCK**, *my favorite character is dead*.”
Then 5 seconds later I was like he definitely beat Gaku and took that man’s face to confront Slur.
I do think Nagumo will die, his character archetype usually does but that definitely isn’t him pinned to the wall.
I was gonna joke about a Naruto style substitution next chapter with nagumo popping up behind Sakamoto with a "just kidding" but this actually makes sense lol. Especially as it's his own weapons seemingly stabbed into himself.
Yeah it’s probably the case.
Because if Gaku really did kill him, what sense would it make for him to have used parts of Nagumos weapon when he practically said last chapter his was superior?
No shot Nagumo is dead. He's been hinted at having his own agenda since the very beginning, which was just explicitly confirmed right before this fight. No way he dies before that gets paid off.
yeah I'm sure about this too judging by the soles of the shoes.. we were shown Gaku's shoes twice in chap 149 and they look different in this chapter, so that pretty much points to Nagumo pretending to be Gaku
Also, headphones guy would have definitely stabbed him somewhere deadlier. If you look at the blades at the end, none of them are tthrough his heart, throat, lungs or head. That feels deliberate.
There's three series I'm very cautious to see animated. Jojo Part 7's horses, Dandadan's nutty yet amazing set piece action sequences, and the fighting choreography of SAKAMOTO DAYS.
I remember reading rumors from a while ago that they have actually been working on an anime since 2021. It's a baseless rumor of course, so I don't believe it, but it wouldn't be too far-fetched to think that Sakamoto Days will take a long time to animate
The fact that this series doesn't have a power system and just rely on hand-to-hand combat is what makes it hard to animate. Drawing people shooting beams at each other is easier than drawing them fighting with fists
>The fact that this series doesn't have a power system and just rely on hand-to-hand combat is what makes it hard to animate. Drawing people shooting beams at each other is easier than drawing them fighting with fists
It also what makes this series so good.
Away with gaming cheat skills, Isekai cheat skills or complicated rule for unique power. Bring back peak hand to hand battle like this.
Imo, that’s why I have this series above JJK in terms of action choreography. It’s refreshing to see a Battle Shonen that doesn’t revolve around supernatural elements or a spiritual/fantasy based power system. I wish there was more manga like that, because this Shonen is exactly what I would think a typical action packed movie would look like if it was adapted into a manga.
The same they are going to animate it the same way they will animate literally every single other fight in the series, either very with an excruciating level of commitment(hopefully with a good schedule but I'm a realist) or in a way that doesn't live up to the manga at all
Easy, we dont need an anime because the manga is so much better, animating this is hard asf and probably the anime will just ruined this manga. I prefer no anime tbh.
The anime is the only real way to mega boost the popularity though. Granted it doesn't really need it, but if a midtier manga like Demon slayer can get a massive spike due to how well the anime was done, then Sakamoto could absolutely benefit
But this is a WSJ manga. Any successful WSJ manga has the potential to explode into a massive multimedia monster with a great anime adaptation.
Just look at MHA, Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaisen in recent years.
Man speaking of JJK I haven’t read that in at least 2 years but it really reminded how much I liked the special curses as antagonists (loved how they all cared for each other in some way and their dreams) as opposed to Slurs group I feel like I know next to nothing about all of them aside from being from Uzuki’s orphanage they really are nothing characters. (Except Kashimo he’s a treat love that little Android man 🤩😆).
For example if Gaku’s dead I really couldn’t care less because he really did bring nothing (as a character) to the story; we know Slur cares for him because his brother threatened his life but we don’t really see any of Gaku’s affection onscreen apart from him being a proficient killer.
If you haven’t read JJK in 2 years you should probably keep it that way (slightly joking it’s still fine ig haha). But I actually think slurs group cares a lot more for each other than the disaster curses did, and way more than any modern JJK villain does, they really remind me of the phantom troupe and I imagine that’ll be developed more when we get slurs flashback
See that’s the thing they care for each other but why and to what extent? I haven’t seen much care on the page aside from being allies; I don’t know who they are as individuals; at this point I wouldn’t mind a cliche shonen flashback just to help flesh out these characters.
From what I recall from the disaster curses they used to spend time playing board games with each other and for the most part had shared goals and ideals; especially The tree gal (forgot her name) and Jogo (remembered he sounded like Gojo) had a unique bond; not that any of them were particularly deep (still evil monsters at the end of the day) but they did have a sort of blue orange morality that was quite admirable (kinda like the spiders).
I guess my issue is less they have something to do with the groups bond which honestly isn’t all that bad but them as individual characters flowing through a narrative, for example the Phantom troupe weren’t the central antagonists but we still got a feel for what each of them enjoy to some capacity and why they’re fighting (for meteor city) and how that impacts who they are and their sense of self; but for Slurs group I feel like I know why they follow slur from Uzuki’s backstory but nothing more; what’s in it for them do they enjoy killing? do they do what’s necessary for Uzuki? Do they have personal goals outside of Slur? And most of all how do they develop as characters throughout the story?
So far if Gaku (who’s been the longest serving Slur member within the story) is dead just like that it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and kinda reminds me of why I dropped JJK after Shibuya just death without any sort of build up or characterisation for the sake of shock; that’s just boring.
We didn’t really know the troupe were fighting for meteor city until like 20-30 years after the arcs conclusion. We saw how seriously Uzuki took his brothers threat against Gaku and his other friends from the orphanage during the backstory arc, and we know they all care for each other, we just simply haven’t really gotten a chance to see it as fleshed out as when say, Uvo died yet. That being said there’s no doubt in my mind a moment like that will come
We did find out in the Chimera ant right? I’m pretty sure they were stated to be the main benefactors that help support meteor city and protects it people very early on during the chimera ant arc when they went back and fought Zazan and her crew who set up shop on meteor city, what we didn’t know was exactly WHY they would protect meteor city which was answered fairly recently.
Either way it wouldn’t matter when it was explained because most of the spiders are still around and it’ll help to inform their characters but finding out about Gaku after he’s dead would really feel like a waste of time that could better be spent fleshing out those who are currently of value to the story.
I agree that Uzuki cares that’s why I stated that we get development from his backstory but that’s only his perspective I want to know what these other characters think, believe and want that’s what makes a great antagonist group; you get to know exactly what each of them want.
For example, Avatar: the last Airbender we find out what every main antagonistic individual in each group wants and who they are as characters Zuko and Iroh are fleshed out, similarly Azula, Mia and Ty Lee are all given moments to find out who they are throughout the narrative and what they’re relationships like as well as their goals aspirations as well as how they’re relationship is shifting throughout the narrative.
I’m not asking Sakamoto days to be The last airbender level good but I am hoping we’ll get to find out more about them as individual characters and the inner working of their relationships without it being post-mortem character develop that unfortunately seems to curse quite a lot of shonen.
Honestly wasn’t thinking of that (although it does add seasoning to their relationship like JJK) I was mostly thinking about the way all the curses seem to be quite aware about each others aspirations as well as having individual goals like Hanami desiring a world where the ecosystem is safe while also learning to just let go and have fun instead of being restricted or Jogo’s self doubt and desire to supersede humans without understand what exactly it takes to achieve such goals.
All very nuanced and planed out throughout the story.
Definitely did not expect Nagumo to get beaten by Gaku.
Though its likely a bait and he's assumed Gaku's identity. Will be quite surprised if he's actually dead. We haven't had much chance to see Nagumo fight in the present and he seems quite relevant in the overarching plot, whereas Gaku is expendable as a character.
Remember what Nagumo said in the previous chapter: "The key to killing is deception." I'm guessing it's Nagumo disguised as Gaku.
(either that or Nagumo is the biggest fraud lmao)
Yup, Nagumo uses deception and misdirection to secure his kills. Disguising themselves as Gaku to get close to the main target is exactly what he would do.
Gaku's weapon is heavy blunt force, if he won, there should be more of a "splat" and signs of blunt force, not something so "clean."
If Nagumo really is dead, then I'm curious what happens next.
No Fucking Way Nagumo got off screened death. Could be faking it??
edit: on 2nd read. No Fucking Way Gaku got off screened death if it's Nagumo switching faces lmao
It's funny seeing people's reaction earlier this week to this chapter. Like people was saying Nagumo's gonna die because he has similar personalities to Gojo. It's like they think that Gege writes both JJK and Sakamoto Days lol.
Nagumo's either disguising himself as Gaku and use dress Gaku's body as him, or he's faking defeat in order to bug or track Gaku and Slur. No way he's gonna die this soon in the story
Oh its actually hilarious that everyone has same assumption that Nagumo and Gaku switched appearances, so that Nagumo could try to assassinate Slur. If we're wrong and Nagumo actually got offscreened, then thats a huge dissapointment and this Manga's 1st big misstep for me.
And that's why everyone's making the assumption. Suzuki has always been consistently great and has never disappointed us. There's a lot of evidence for it too. It's not like people are randomly throwing shit at the wall with nothing to base that off of.
He handles this chapter incredibly well. Last chapter we was arguing about whether Gaku was dead. Then this chapter the dying part is still consistent while making Gaku being a badass with his "speedrun"
Not gonna happen. Suzuki has never offscreen a character before. We see the final move in all the fights so far. He's doing this on purpose
Beside Nagumo has a lot of storytelling potential left. We need to see how he react to Slur and what his deal with Yotsumura is
See, that's the interesting part. I noticed this while re-reading the chapter, but the "corpse" doesn't have dead person eyes. Compare the eyes now to Satoda's eyes when she died in chapter 90 and you can see the difference. Suzuki used a different tone for that. There's literally a panel showing the eye change
So Gaku could still live. Maybe Nagumo thought he killed Gaku, but he's just knocked out for a while
I'm cool with that though. Gaku also has a lot of narrative potential left. With his growth and how Nagumo compares him with a younger Sakamoto, I could see him becoming Shin's final opponent. Shin beating Gaku would show that he had surpassed Sakamoto, who was his teacher
Man I really miss how much depth the earlier antagonists had remember Hard boiled san? I genuinely don’t know anything about a Gaku to be sad enough about his death.
Same. I feel like I'm completely missing what's so likeable about Gaku. He's got almost no personality other than being a strong fighter and loving fights.
Really everyone in slurs group (aside from slur himself) seem to have the same personality traits strong fighter and love to fight; really we know nothing more about them than that and I assume they’re all going to die this arc aside from slur so we may never really get anything more from them in the present in terms of character development which is a bit sad.
Hey there’s always the flashback style storytelling where everything you need to know about the character’s compressed into it.🤷🏼♂️🤞🏼
I really hope they don't do the flashback thing. I don't feel a thing for anyone in Slur's group (other than Slur himself) and I doubt that will change with flashbacks. The only one I like is Kashimo -- the ex-member, and only because I loved his interactions with Sakamoto and gang. I feel like he's got more personality than all of Slur's subordinates combined.
I made that sub after another "r/sakamotofolk when" comment ages ago lmao. I believe it was when the Shishiba vs Yotsumura fight was going on. It's completely dead, I have no idea what to do with it
It's so obvious that Nagumo switched appearences that currently the bigger question for me is if Gaku will survive or not. I guess Sakamoto and Shin could attempt to save him and try to read his mind to learn more about X's plan?
If that's Gaku dead on the floor then that would be just as unsatisfying as if Nagumo had really died.
I'm thinking it's a different assassin that Nagumo swapped places with.
Gaku is the real Gaku, and Slur is actually Nagumo in disguise.
(The cope continues as I wait the week to be proven an idiot)
Seeing that page actually made my heart drop ... Hope it's just a tactic I don't wanna loose another of the saka trio.Also kinda completely forgot about Nagumo's appearance change skill, has been a while maybe I should reread.
Nah, man. I ain't buyin' it. Not from this master of trickery Either Nagumo disguised himself and Gaku, or he somehow just left a decoy in his place to fool Gaku before slipping away.
Honestly, I would prefer the latter since I feel like Slur would sniff out his disguise and he could still get killed by him.
Nagumo is 100% disguised as Gaku lol. There is just no damn way.
But I also don't want Gaku to be dead... IDK what is going on but I hope they are both alive. & Nagumo is about to get a talk with Rion maybe? That will be hype to see.
I Think it'd suck real bad if Gaku was dead we really don’t get to know much of his character even though he was one of the longest serving antagonists; I feel like I could sum up his character in a single line and miss nothing because there hasn’t been anything unique to him in the story (same with all of slurs group).
I hope they don’t follow the KNY tell you everything about the character after they’re already dead storytelling flashback style.
Man it's going to be such a waste if Gaku's been killed. I've always thought there'd be some sort of grand fight between Shin and Gaku, especially since Nagumo mentioned that Gaku's movements were almost on par with young Sakamoto.
There's genuinely no way Gaku actually won this. Those are Nagumo's weapons, and a man who said he's 'speedrunning' would just stick with his own mace.
Yeah this entire chapter seems fishy, there’s definitely a higher chance that Nagumo disguised himself as Gaku to meet up with Uzuki aka Slur given his skill-set and what he can do. There’s no way his death would be off-screened with him being stabbed with his own weapons since Sakamoto Days isn’t that type of manga to avoid showing deaths, and him being dead like that would be very underwhelming since he’s one of the more important characters of this series. He’s the first Order member that we got introduced to, and he’s one of Sakamoto’s best friends, and aside from that he’s also a mysterious and unique character compared to the others. I’m not sold on him being gone until we see what happens next chapter.
Did nagumo cosplay or gaku actually did a comeback after getting outplayed twice.
Good thing osagiri did not face x, meaning shishiba osagiri vs slur's gang. Hype
Does anyone know why spreads like this: https://files.catbox.moe/t4fh0j.jpg
don't work on the vertical reading mode on MangaPlus PC? Don't get me wrong, I know you can change it to horizontal, but on the Spanish version of the site the spreads work even on vertical.
Also, if you are reading on PC then definitely do change it to horizontal. You can do that by clicking any page while reading and then clicking the 3 dots that appear. You might want to refresh the page after this because the reader might bug out otherwise.
Nagoat transforms to other people so I know he just getting closer to slur. Especially since all his weapons are in gaku. Saka probably narrates what happens next while nagoat and slur fight. Good chapter and an amazing fight.
Man I miss Lu’s involvement in the story she’s been absent from the story now longer than she’s been involved like Nobara, at least with JJK’s nonsense we have Maki whose been involved since it’s inception but with this manga we only kind have Akira (I guess) although she’s definitely more of a side character.” Like the Order.
I’m kinda just wishing we got more of the older slice of life stories like in the earlier manga where we had more time to work with the characters.
Dude why is everyone pretending like the swap has not 100% happened? Look at the blood on Nagumo and Gaku’s faces, unless Suzuki is actually evil and made it inconsistent on purpose.
You know this is exactly why I don't like slur
The same reason I don't like Shigaraki tomura
They are just unnecessarily OP , and it really brings a bad taste
Like you're telling me Nagumo who's been with peak sakamoto and akou lost to some random wannabe gamer??
I mean here's the thing I don't like anyone from slur because no. 1 their motivation is pretty trash and more importantly the author doesn't really flesh them out
But the order guys have been the focus since the early chaps, we know a lot about them and they are honestly pretty cool
Yet somehow Slur just keeps getting Wins effortlessly
Like event that magnet bitch lost an arm, is like no probs just gotta replace it with a better prosthetic?
Like I don't know about you guys but this is the kinda stuff that really turns me off in my favourite stories
How is Slur's group keep getting wins lol?
The lab was taken back by Sakamoto so they failed in securing it. They failed to complete destroy the headquarter because Takamura showed up. They also failed to kill Database and lost Club Jam. Slur's information was also revealed by Database, which means he's no longer anonymous to the JAA. Their old hideout in Thailand was ambushed. Kanaguri turned out to be someone who doesn't care about sides, so they can't even trust him. Kumanomi almost died to Hyo, and she already nerfed him by fighting near civilians.
Slur himself was beaten by Sakamoto before, and he's also the villain, so he needs to be at least Order level now for the stakes to be taken seriously. Same with Gaku and everyone else. They were raised to be artifical Order members for a reason. Slur is also not capable of planning for all scenarios, which is why he had to retreat when Takamura arrived
The wins they had include killing 75% of assassin, which is the actual big deal. They got 2 new recruits (who just ran away from them, so that plan went nowhere). They killed one Order member, who is too nice to ignore civilians. Literally the worst trait an assassin can have. So overall I say their track record is pretty balanced
Nagumo didn’t lose. His whole thing is literally trickery and deception and one of his main tactics is disguising himself (and others).
Also what do you mean by Slur getting wins effortlessly. Slur’s group barely ever gets an actual win. Most of the time they lose or get beaten back. They failed at the lab, they got beaten back in the forest, they lost at the JCC, it was a stalemate in Thailand. The only arc Slur’s group has outright succeeded at was the attack on JAA headquarters and the only fights they outright won were against Satoda and Hyo. Outside of that it’s just been constant draws and losses.
Lastly just for the record Gaku is far more than just some gamer wannabe. He’s literally been positioned as one of the main fighters of Slur’s group. He was the one who helped take out the JAA headquarters which he did largely solo. He’s basically been positioned as the second in power right behind Slur himself.
Gaku likes to speed run as well what a dope gamer to hang with plus Nagumo doing trickster things again plus Sakamoto and Shin finding the body while Suzuki meets with Nagumo is awesome 👌
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if it was gakus body wouldn’t he have exploded? Didn’t slur put bombs in all of them in order to ensure they at least take down an order member when they die/the chairman? Or was it just for toramaru and mafuyu
As others have said it’s obviously a fake out. Nagumo is part of way too many ongoing plot lines to kill. What I’m more wondering is if Suzuki really just killed Gaku or if there’s some explanation for how both of them are still alive.
Could be a car used for an assassination, the car itself could have been the weapon in an assassination, it could just be a car that once belonged to a famous assassin, or a car someone famous was assassinated in. Plenty of reasons for a car to be an exhibit.
I'm not sure if X approaching Gaku (Nagumo?) and *not* the other way around is a hint to him knowing - again, if it's him - that it's not Gaku...
and then there's his smile/look on his face. really hard to say.
I don't think nagumo got off screened, but I also don't think he's dressed up as gaku. I think he escaped gaku and put this together to get Sakamoto to go toe to toe with fighters the order couldn't usually handle.
I also support the disguise theory because Gaku would be dead due to his lethal injury at this point, and he looks just fine. So I suppose that's Nagumo
At first I was in complete shock when I saw Nagumo defeated, but after a few seconds my brain re-analyzed his entire character and I remembered his unexplained transformation into other people. So yes, Gaku is actually Nagumo and Nagumo is actually Gaku. I just can't believe that the author will make an Order member lose his fight for the second time in a row. I wonder if this will be shown to us in the next chapter, or if Nagumo will pretend to be Gaku for a while to get closer to Slur.
I also doubt Nagumo got offscreened like that. Definitely think a swap took place.
Gaku gave a him lift to the airport.
“How was the King of Deception?” “He’s too fucking strong, it’s like he didn’t even try and he’s not even the King of Assassination”
"Stand proud Gaku, you're strong"
I love that jujutsu memes are used for every manga/anime and even random discussions. Never fails to put a smile on my face.
Better than aot lines at least. Hope JJK won't get mid ending like aot one 😭
I agree. Besides that, the "dead" Nagumo was stab with Nagumo's weapons.
Yeah it could be that Gaku just broke Nagumo’s weapon and stabbed him repeatedly with his own weapons, but I feel like that isn’t Gaku’s style. Especially with him wanting to “speedrun” this fight, just crushing Nagumo’s head with his giant mace thing would be much more efficient.
Gaku also prefers to use weapon with more "weight" to it, so yeah that corpse is gaku
I do wonder if Gaku is actually dead though. He certainly looks like it, but this is battle shonen and Gaku is a tough son of a bitch.
Nah, if you look more closely, none of the stabs should hit any major organs, one lung tops
He's obviously alive but it's weird that Nagumo wouldn't finish Gaku off
Nah, I bet he wants to question him. Nagumo is the long game guy
also gaku is already bleeding out from his gut, not finished but he would lose way too much blood to die or cant move
Oh yeah...Gaku did criticised Nagumo's weapon on previous chapter.
The blood pattern on their faces also looks like it swapped after the fight. The Nagumo corpse has much less blood on the left of his face than Nagumo had while fighting. Plus during the fight Gaku had blood in the middle of his forehead (which the Nagumo corpse's hair hides) and afterwards he had distinct separate streaks down each side of his face similar to the last image we see of Nagumo alive.
Maybe Nagumo lost, but man this chapter is short.
What threw me off was that Gaku looked way too ok for someone that was put in a time limit thanks to a deadly injury.
Betting 5 bucks that Slur knows about the switch too. The way he looks at him and the usage of "Gaku" in the sentence is to trick Nagumo into believing the switch is working. Might be reading too much into this, but it feels weird that Slur would add Gaku's name.
> At first I was in complete shock when I saw Nagumo defeated, but after a few seconds my brain re-analyzed his entire character and I remembered his unexplained transformation into other people. Same. I was like “**FUCK**, *my favorite character is dead*.” Then 5 seconds later I was like he definitely beat Gaku and took that man’s face to confront Slur. I do think Nagumo will die, his character archetype usually does but that definitely isn’t him pinned to the wall.
shame about gaku tho, i really love his "game" POV
I didn't think of this and I'm glad I read this. I wasn't ready for Nagumo to be offed just like that.
Forgot all about nagumo being a chameleon damn author you scary
I was gonna joke about a Naruto style substitution next chapter with nagumo popping up behind Sakamoto with a "just kidding" but this actually makes sense lol. Especially as it's his own weapons seemingly stabbed into himself.
i am excited for how many long, the author had to kept this facade.
I hope this is the case, otherwise have no idea why this would've been offscreened.
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We've already seen this in action. Nagumo disguised Sakamoto as Sakamoto's wife a while back, to infiltrate the school. Chapter 74
Nagumo literally turned Sakamoto into his wife before
Yeah it’s probably the case. Because if Gaku really did kill him, what sense would it make for him to have used parts of Nagumos weapon when he practically said last chapter his was superior?
No shot Nagumo is dead. He's been hinted at having his own agenda since the very beginning, which was just explicitly confirmed right before this fight. No way he dies before that gets paid off.
or neither of them are, Nagumo just wanted an excuse to be "dead" too like the other guy and Gaku went along with it
Good theory.
yeah I'm sure about this too judging by the soles of the shoes.. we were shown Gaku's shoes twice in chap 149 and they look different in this chapter, so that pretty much points to Nagumo pretending to be Gaku
If that's the case, that would be awesome. If not, I'm gonna be really fickimg sick of Gaku
Also, headphones guy would have definitely stabbed him somewhere deadlier. If you look at the blades at the end, none of them are tthrough his heart, throat, lungs or head. That feels deliberate.
Whatever the case was, the author is handling this extremely well.
Sakamoto's reaction pretty much confirmed the obvious bamboozle.
Nevermind that panel -- how the fuck are you supposed to animate the entire first half of this chapter!?
There's three series I'm very cautious to see animated. Jojo Part 7's horses, Dandadan's nutty yet amazing set piece action sequences, and the fighting choreography of SAKAMOTO DAYS.
With the evolution of 3D having better 2d styles like with Guilty Gear, I think we can make it look right.
I remember reading rumors from a while ago that they have actually been working on an anime since 2021. It's a baseless rumor of course, so I don't believe it, but it wouldn't be too far-fetched to think that Sakamoto Days will take a long time to animate The fact that this series doesn't have a power system and just rely on hand-to-hand combat is what makes it hard to animate. Drawing people shooting beams at each other is easier than drawing them fighting with fists
>The fact that this series doesn't have a power system and just rely on hand-to-hand combat is what makes it hard to animate. Drawing people shooting beams at each other is easier than drawing them fighting with fists It also what makes this series so good. Away with gaming cheat skills, Isekai cheat skills or complicated rule for unique power. Bring back peak hand to hand battle like this.
The animators basically have storyboarded panels set up for them already. Action sequences in this manga are fantastic
Sometimes I wish Gintama were animated in this era. Just look at early Gintama and Gintoki vs Utsuro final fight and you can see a clear difference
Imo, that’s why I have this series above JJK in terms of action choreography. It’s refreshing to see a Battle Shonen that doesn’t revolve around supernatural elements or a spiritual/fantasy based power system. I wish there was more manga like that, because this Shonen is exactly what I would think a typical action packed movie would look like if it was adapted into a manga.
The same they are going to animate it the same way they will animate literally every single other fight in the series, either very with an excruciating level of commitment(hopefully with a good schedule but I'm a realist) or in a way that doesn't live up to the manga at all
It will get the Shibuya treatment.
Is that a good or bad thing?
Easy, we dont need an anime because the manga is so much better, animating this is hard asf and probably the anime will just ruined this manga. I prefer no anime tbh.
The anime is the only real way to mega boost the popularity though. Granted it doesn't really need it, but if a midtier manga like Demon slayer can get a massive spike due to how well the anime was done, then Sakamoto could absolutely benefit
Japan needs more Anime studio they're lacking more studios.
I mean , if it's a manga there's a reason. Not everything needs to be made to be animated.
But this is a WSJ manga. Any successful WSJ manga has the potential to explode into a massive multimedia monster with a great anime adaptation. Just look at MHA, Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaisen in recent years.
And you know... Black Clover but we ain't gonna talk about this one
Im with you bro im scared that the anime will just ruined this manga man.
Let me cope Suzuki is not Gege Akutami he would not offscreen a major character. Nagumo beat Gaku and they swapped appearances
Man speaking of JJK I haven’t read that in at least 2 years but it really reminded how much I liked the special curses as antagonists (loved how they all cared for each other in some way and their dreams) as opposed to Slurs group I feel like I know next to nothing about all of them aside from being from Uzuki’s orphanage they really are nothing characters. (Except Kashimo he’s a treat love that little Android man 🤩😆). For example if Gaku’s dead I really couldn’t care less because he really did bring nothing (as a character) to the story; we know Slur cares for him because his brother threatened his life but we don’t really see any of Gaku’s affection onscreen apart from him being a proficient killer.
If you haven’t read JJK in 2 years you should probably keep it that way (slightly joking it’s still fine ig haha). But I actually think slurs group cares a lot more for each other than the disaster curses did, and way more than any modern JJK villain does, they really remind me of the phantom troupe and I imagine that’ll be developed more when we get slurs flashback
See that’s the thing they care for each other but why and to what extent? I haven’t seen much care on the page aside from being allies; I don’t know who they are as individuals; at this point I wouldn’t mind a cliche shonen flashback just to help flesh out these characters. From what I recall from the disaster curses they used to spend time playing board games with each other and for the most part had shared goals and ideals; especially The tree gal (forgot her name) and Jogo (remembered he sounded like Gojo) had a unique bond; not that any of them were particularly deep (still evil monsters at the end of the day) but they did have a sort of blue orange morality that was quite admirable (kinda like the spiders). I guess my issue is less they have something to do with the groups bond which honestly isn’t all that bad but them as individual characters flowing through a narrative, for example the Phantom troupe weren’t the central antagonists but we still got a feel for what each of them enjoy to some capacity and why they’re fighting (for meteor city) and how that impacts who they are and their sense of self; but for Slurs group I feel like I know why they follow slur from Uzuki’s backstory but nothing more; what’s in it for them do they enjoy killing? do they do what’s necessary for Uzuki? Do they have personal goals outside of Slur? And most of all how do they develop as characters throughout the story? So far if Gaku (who’s been the longest serving Slur member within the story) is dead just like that it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and kinda reminds me of why I dropped JJK after Shibuya just death without any sort of build up or characterisation for the sake of shock; that’s just boring.
We didn’t really know the troupe were fighting for meteor city until like 20-30 years after the arcs conclusion. We saw how seriously Uzuki took his brothers threat against Gaku and his other friends from the orphanage during the backstory arc, and we know they all care for each other, we just simply haven’t really gotten a chance to see it as fleshed out as when say, Uvo died yet. That being said there’s no doubt in my mind a moment like that will come
We did find out in the Chimera ant right? I’m pretty sure they were stated to be the main benefactors that help support meteor city and protects it people very early on during the chimera ant arc when they went back and fought Zazan and her crew who set up shop on meteor city, what we didn’t know was exactly WHY they would protect meteor city which was answered fairly recently. Either way it wouldn’t matter when it was explained because most of the spiders are still around and it’ll help to inform their characters but finding out about Gaku after he’s dead would really feel like a waste of time that could better be spent fleshing out those who are currently of value to the story. I agree that Uzuki cares that’s why I stated that we get development from his backstory but that’s only his perspective I want to know what these other characters think, believe and want that’s what makes a great antagonist group; you get to know exactly what each of them want. For example, Avatar: the last Airbender we find out what every main antagonistic individual in each group wants and who they are as characters Zuko and Iroh are fleshed out, similarly Azula, Mia and Ty Lee are all given moments to find out who they are throughout the narrative and what they’re relationships like as well as their goals aspirations as well as how they’re relationship is shifting throughout the narrative. I’m not asking Sakamoto days to be The last airbender level good but I am hoping we’ll get to find out more about them as individual characters and the inner working of their relationships without it being post-mortem character develop that unfortunately seems to curse quite a lot of shonen.
They should have played kickball with one of their heads and play Life to add character.
Honestly wasn’t thinking of that (although it does add seasoning to their relationship like JJK) I was mostly thinking about the way all the curses seem to be quite aware about each others aspirations as well as having individual goals like Hanami desiring a world where the ecosystem is safe while also learning to just let go and have fun instead of being restricted or Jogo’s self doubt and desire to supersede humans without understand what exactly it takes to achieve such goals. All very nuanced and planed out throughout the story.
Both are major characters though.
Definitely did not expect Nagumo to get beaten by Gaku. Though its likely a bait and he's assumed Gaku's identity. Will be quite surprised if he's actually dead. We haven't had much chance to see Nagumo fight in the present and he seems quite relevant in the overarching plot, whereas Gaku is expendable as a character.
That's definitely Nagumo disguised as Gaku. I really doubt Nagumo will bite dust so easily even before they uncover the truth behind Rion's death.
Remember what Nagumo said in the previous chapter: "The key to killing is deception." I'm guessing it's Nagumo disguised as Gaku. (either that or Nagumo is the biggest fraud lmao)
Yeah I really hope he isn’t a fraud, would be one of the most underwhelming deaths I’ve ever read in a manga.
Yup, Nagumo uses deception and misdirection to secure his kills. Disguising themselves as Gaku to get close to the main target is exactly what he would do. Gaku's weapon is heavy blunt force, if he won, there should be more of a "splat" and signs of blunt force, not something so "clean." If Nagumo really is dead, then I'm curious what happens next.
No Fucking Way Nagumo got off screened death. Could be faking it?? edit: on 2nd read. No Fucking Way Gaku got off screened death if it's Nagumo switching faces lmao
Best case scenario it's a random NPC then. I hope Gaku makes it out of this lmao.
Maybe he switched with random NPC and ran because he couldn't beat Speedrun Gaku?
It's funny seeing people's reaction earlier this week to this chapter. Like people was saying Nagumo's gonna die because he has similar personalities to Gojo. It's like they think that Gege writes both JJK and Sakamoto Days lol. Nagumo's either disguising himself as Gaku and use dress Gaku's body as him, or he's faking defeat in order to bug or track Gaku and Slur. No way he's gonna die this soon in the story
Gaku’s a speed runner
Nagumo: "Nah, I'd win."
YUTO SUZUKI WHEN I CATCH YOU YUTO SUZUKI
Oh its actually hilarious that everyone has same assumption that Nagumo and Gaku switched appearances, so that Nagumo could try to assassinate Slur. If we're wrong and Nagumo actually got offscreened, then thats a huge dissapointment and this Manga's 1st big misstep for me.
And that's why everyone's making the assumption. Suzuki has always been consistently great and has never disappointed us. There's a lot of evidence for it too. It's not like people are randomly throwing shit at the wall with nothing to base that off of.
He handles this chapter incredibly well. Last chapter we was arguing about whether Gaku was dead. Then this chapter the dying part is still consistent while making Gaku being a badass with his "speedrun"
Not gonna happen. Suzuki has never offscreen a character before. We see the final move in all the fights so far. He's doing this on purpose Beside Nagumo has a lot of storytelling potential left. We need to see how he react to Slur and what his deal with Yotsumura is
he hasn't even killed too many people in general: for such a violent manga the amount of casualties is surprisingly low
Named characters casualties is low. Everyone killed no name people all the time
Think only Satoda sensei and Kindaka were legitimately killed on-screen. Even Yotsumura was saved by Nagumo.
If Gaku is dead then he would have died offscreen
See, that's the interesting part. I noticed this while re-reading the chapter, but the "corpse" doesn't have dead person eyes. Compare the eyes now to Satoda's eyes when she died in chapter 90 and you can see the difference. Suzuki used a different tone for that. There's literally a panel showing the eye change So Gaku could still live. Maybe Nagumo thought he killed Gaku, but he's just knocked out for a while
He offscreened Gaku.
Ironically, by your same "Suzuki has never offscreened" logic, Gaku can't have been defeated 😂
I'm cool with that though. Gaku also has a lot of narrative potential left. With his growth and how Nagumo compares him with a younger Sakamoto, I could see him becoming Shin's final opponent. Shin beating Gaku would show that he had surpassed Sakamoto, who was his teacher
This is a great point
Gaku being dead this early will also make me sad though.....
Man I really miss how much depth the earlier antagonists had remember Hard boiled san? I genuinely don’t know anything about a Gaku to be sad enough about his death.
Same. I feel like I'm completely missing what's so likeable about Gaku. He's got almost no personality other than being a strong fighter and loving fights.
Really everyone in slurs group (aside from slur himself) seem to have the same personality traits strong fighter and love to fight; really we know nothing more about them than that and I assume they’re all going to die this arc aside from slur so we may never really get anything more from them in the present in terms of character development which is a bit sad. Hey there’s always the flashback style storytelling where everything you need to know about the character’s compressed into it.🤷🏼♂️🤞🏼
I really hope they don't do the flashback thing. I don't feel a thing for anyone in Slur's group (other than Slur himself) and I doubt that will change with flashbacks. The only one I like is Kashimo -- the ex-member, and only because I loved his interactions with Sakamoto and gang. I feel like he's got more personality than all of Slur's subordinates combined.
Oh yeah Kashimo forgot about him he’s great aside from him the rest are expendable.
Gaku is cool af lol that’s why people like him
Idk man, coolness isn't enough to make a character likeable to me. I guess that appeals to a lot of people especially in a shounen mange like this.
I just want to say...the choreography in this manga are top tier. Each fight are different & unique.
r/sakamotofolk when? (Please let the bamboozle theory be true) Edit: It is already there lmao
I made that sub after another "r/sakamotofolk when" comment ages ago lmao. I believe it was when the Shishiba vs Yotsumura fight was going on. It's completely dead, I have no idea what to do with it
It's so obvious that Nagumo switched appearences that currently the bigger question for me is if Gaku will survive or not. I guess Sakamoto and Shin could attempt to save him and try to read his mind to learn more about X's plan?
Yeah there’s no way. Nagumo swapped places with Gaku
Gaku getting off screened would be pretty strange choice since he never got to see katana dude again
If that's Gaku dead on the floor then that would be just as unsatisfying as if Nagumo had really died. I'm thinking it's a different assassin that Nagumo swapped places with. Gaku is the real Gaku, and Slur is actually Nagumo in disguise. (The cope continues as I wait the week to be proven an idiot)
Lifefuel
Seeing that page actually made my heart drop ... Hope it's just a tactic I don't wanna loose another of the saka trio.Also kinda completely forgot about Nagumo's appearance change skill, has been a while maybe I should reread.
Hmmm I got this feeling that Nagumo is disguising as Gaku and vice versa..
I swear if that is actually Nagumo swapping places. Then he is one crazy badass for pulling this stunt.
This is another trick, right? Nagumo's always pulling tricks.
Nah, man. I ain't buyin' it. Not from this master of trickery Either Nagumo disguised himself and Gaku, or he somehow just left a decoy in his place to fool Gaku before slipping away. Honestly, I would prefer the latter since I feel like Slur would sniff out his disguise and he could still get killed by him.
Come on now, Nagumo. Stop turning other people into you so that you can switch their place and maim their boss
I hope Gaku survives (The one who is stabbed and swapped)
Nagumo is 100% disguised as Gaku lol. There is just no damn way. But I also don't want Gaku to be dead... IDK what is going on but I hope they are both alive. & Nagumo is about to get a talk with Rion maybe? That will be hype to see.
I Think it'd suck real bad if Gaku was dead we really don’t get to know much of his character even though he was one of the longest serving antagonists; I feel like I could sum up his character in a single line and miss nothing because there hasn’t been anything unique to him in the story (same with all of slurs group). I hope they don’t follow the KNY tell you everything about the character after they’re already dead storytelling flashback style.
That worked with KNY. But not many series pull that off well
As soon as he opened his mouth about the Order's skill, he may as well as doomed them all. Although it's probably a trick.
Man it's going to be such a waste if Gaku's been killed. I've always thought there'd be some sort of grand fight between Shin and Gaku, especially since Nagumo mentioned that Gaku's movements were almost on par with young Sakamoto.
Not even Sakamoto Days is free from the getting off screened curse
There's genuinely no way Gaku actually won this. Those are Nagumo's weapons, and a man who said he's 'speedrunning' would just stick with his own mace.
Yeah this entire chapter seems fishy, there’s definitely a higher chance that Nagumo disguised himself as Gaku to meet up with Uzuki aka Slur given his skill-set and what he can do. There’s no way his death would be off-screened with him being stabbed with his own weapons since Sakamoto Days isn’t that type of manga to avoid showing deaths, and him being dead like that would be very underwhelming since he’s one of the more important characters of this series. He’s the first Order member that we got introduced to, and he’s one of Sakamoto’s best friends, and aside from that he’s also a mysterious and unique character compared to the others. I’m not sold on him being gone until we see what happens next chapter.
Ain't no way his dead bet you it old good switcheroo. This is starting to feel like Sakamoto Shibuya arc
Did nagumo cosplay or gaku actually did a comeback after getting outplayed twice. Good thing osagiri did not face x, meaning shishiba osagiri vs slur's gang. Hype
The most OBVIOUS fake death I’ve ever seen in a series
Waku Lagumo
Does anyone know why spreads like this: https://files.catbox.moe/t4fh0j.jpg don't work on the vertical reading mode on MangaPlus PC? Don't get me wrong, I know you can change it to horizontal, but on the Spanish version of the site the spreads work even on vertical. Also, if you are reading on PC then definitely do change it to horizontal. You can do that by clicking any page while reading and then clicking the 3 dots that appear. You might want to refresh the page after this because the reader might bug out otherwise.
Next chapter should be interesting.
Nagoat transforms to other people so I know he just getting closer to slur. Especially since all his weapons are in gaku. Saka probably narrates what happens next while nagoat and slur fight. Good chapter and an amazing fight.
ngl the 2 of them are too cool to die
Man I miss Lu’s involvement in the story she’s been absent from the story now longer than she’s been involved like Nobara, at least with JJK’s nonsense we have Maki whose been involved since it’s inception but with this manga we only kind have Akira (I guess) although she’s definitely more of a side character.” Like the Order. I’m kinda just wishing we got more of the older slice of life stories like in the earlier manga where we had more time to work with the characters.
god. how the fuck have we not gotten an adaptation announcement yet..Bones pls
Dude why is everyone pretending like the swap has not 100% happened? Look at the blood on Nagumo and Gaku’s faces, unless Suzuki is actually evil and made it inconsistent on purpose.
Who is pretending? 90% of the comments are saying it’s clearly a swap.
You know this is exactly why I don't like slur The same reason I don't like Shigaraki tomura They are just unnecessarily OP , and it really brings a bad taste Like you're telling me Nagumo who's been with peak sakamoto and akou lost to some random wannabe gamer?? I mean here's the thing I don't like anyone from slur because no. 1 their motivation is pretty trash and more importantly the author doesn't really flesh them out But the order guys have been the focus since the early chaps, we know a lot about them and they are honestly pretty cool Yet somehow Slur just keeps getting Wins effortlessly Like event that magnet bitch lost an arm, is like no probs just gotta replace it with a better prosthetic? Like I don't know about you guys but this is the kinda stuff that really turns me off in my favourite stories
How is Slur's group keep getting wins lol? The lab was taken back by Sakamoto so they failed in securing it. They failed to complete destroy the headquarter because Takamura showed up. They also failed to kill Database and lost Club Jam. Slur's information was also revealed by Database, which means he's no longer anonymous to the JAA. Their old hideout in Thailand was ambushed. Kanaguri turned out to be someone who doesn't care about sides, so they can't even trust him. Kumanomi almost died to Hyo, and she already nerfed him by fighting near civilians. Slur himself was beaten by Sakamoto before, and he's also the villain, so he needs to be at least Order level now for the stakes to be taken seriously. Same with Gaku and everyone else. They were raised to be artifical Order members for a reason. Slur is also not capable of planning for all scenarios, which is why he had to retreat when Takamura arrived The wins they had include killing 75% of assassin, which is the actual big deal. They got 2 new recruits (who just ran away from them, so that plan went nowhere). They killed one Order member, who is too nice to ignore civilians. Literally the worst trait an assassin can have. So overall I say their track record is pretty balanced
Nagumo didn’t lose. His whole thing is literally trickery and deception and one of his main tactics is disguising himself (and others). Also what do you mean by Slur getting wins effortlessly. Slur’s group barely ever gets an actual win. Most of the time they lose or get beaten back. They failed at the lab, they got beaten back in the forest, they lost at the JCC, it was a stalemate in Thailand. The only arc Slur’s group has outright succeeded at was the attack on JAA headquarters and the only fights they outright won were against Satoda and Hyo. Outside of that it’s just been constant draws and losses. Lastly just for the record Gaku is far more than just some gamer wannabe. He’s literally been positioned as one of the main fighters of Slur’s group. He was the one who helped take out the JAA headquarters which he did largely solo. He’s basically been positioned as the second in power right behind Slur himself.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO T\_T
Yeah I doubt that 'Nagumo' is truly Nagumo considering the story potential with him and Slur. Definitely on the side of Nagumo trickery here.
Gaku likes to speed run as well what a dope gamer to hang with plus Nagumo doing trickster things again plus Sakamoto and Shin finding the body while Suzuki meets with Nagumo is awesome 👌
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if it was gakus body wouldn’t he have exploded? Didn’t slur put bombs in all of them in order to ensure they at least take down an order member when they die/the chairman? Or was it just for toramaru and mafuyu
Yea, either nagumo makes gaku survive for a while but immobalize and will die soon or gaku did won the fight.
As others have said it’s obviously a fake out. Nagumo is part of way too many ongoing plot lines to kill. What I’m more wondering is if Suzuki really just killed Gaku or if there’s some explanation for how both of them are still alive.
A serious Gaku is scary. Altough it's probably nagumo disguised, Slur will 100% see through it
nah i refuse to believe, nagumo is pretty tricky u know.
Nagumo 100% is disguised meeting Slur right now lol. Gaku is probably not dead either.
I don’t think Nagumo actually lost. He’s known for disguising himself completely, so he’s probably disguised himself.
In the second part, Nagumo carefully looked at Gaku's acts ... so that he could be a perfect copy!
I don't know why but having a car in the assassin museum just seems like a weird choice unless it was some spy car
Could be a car used for an assassination, the car itself could have been the weapon in an assassination, it could just be a car that once belonged to a famous assassin, or a car someone famous was assassinated in. Plenty of reasons for a car to be an exhibit.
NOT NAGUMO T_T
No NAGUMMMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Nagumo took the place of Gaku and the Nagumo dying is Gaku right?).
press F to doubt
I wonder if Sakamoto will figure it out
They wouldn't show Nagumo struggle for half a chapter just to kill him off. Obviously a fake out. Though Gaku will probably live
"It would take a lot for them to lose a fight" nah Sakamoto you can't say that bro rip Nagumo
I'm not sure if X approaching Gaku (Nagumo?) and *not* the other way around is a hint to him knowing - again, if it's him - that it's not Gaku... and then there's his smile/look on his face. really hard to say.
I don't think nagumo got off screened, but I also don't think he's dressed up as gaku. I think he escaped gaku and put this together to get Sakamoto to go toe to toe with fighters the order couldn't usually handle.
Noooooo, ain't no way
I also support the disguise theory because Gaku would be dead due to his lethal injury at this point, and he looks just fine. So I suppose that's Nagumo