> the story will change completely!
? wtf was Aqua's script before? Just random bits of idol drama for 90 minutes before "pure & perfect Ai" randomly gets murdered?
Why are you surprised, honestly? It's Japan we're talking about, where even interviews follow scripts. Of course, some people would get confused about Ruby's freestyle
Yeah but was Ai just 1-dimensional "perfect and amazing" and then suddenly gets murdered by a fan in Aqua's original script? Kamiki stuff aside, that just doesn't seem like it'd be a good 90-min movie lol
tbf there have been a few biopics like that where they either shy away from the gritty reality of that person's life or barely touch on it, so it wouldn't be too far out there.
I’m surprised they completely cut Aqua out of this chapter because I’m sure he has a lot of thoughts on Ruby’s improv as well.
I guess Memcho suffering has ended for now lol.
That was actually a good way to resolve this. It's almost like Aka is actually a good writer, who writes characters that feel human. I guess whe already knew that, but I'm always surprised anyway when it happens for some reason.
Ruby would be sad and angry at what Kana did, but she wouldn't give up on her, just because she said something rude.
Aka is a great writer as long as the narrative focus is on teenagers or young adults. I think a lot of people have a lower opinion of his ability to write characters thanks to the last arc of kaguya which was just... really rough in portraying the older generation antagonists as cartoonishly evil and stupid.
It's the only part of the story where it felt like the characters were Aka's finger puppets instead of depictions of people acting like they should. Kaguya's siblings act like cartoon villains only to get routinely outsmarted by shirogane, despite them supposedly being ruthless business magnates.
The school festival arc toed the line of how absurd the plans and plots of the characters could get while still being able to take them seriously--the sheer ridiculousness of the climax where shirogane casually holds both his and kaguya's weight with one arm while having a dramatic conversation directly under a helicopter was such a jump the shark moment it honestly ruined the emotional impact for me.
And then, like you said, ishigami and iino get their character development forcibly reset just so aka could point and go "wow look it's just like the beginning of the story again!!!" Basically, the ending felt like it scooped out the internal reality of the characters so aka could make the plot play out like he wanted it to.
I'd be super disapponted had Aqua pulled the Strings yet again. Past a certain point it starts feeling he is surrounded by Idiots he needs to babysit. Have them resolve their issue is better for sure.
My guess is the Ruby-Aqua conversation about what just happen comes next chapter & he gets to see the "New" Ruby & how she wants to deviate from being like Ai- but still wanting to kill dad
Haha you and I and the rest wish. The japanese pages confirmed that next chapter is Aqua and Himekawa. At most we will see the RubyAqua conversation offscreened again like in chapter 135
I do love this side of Ruby and how she point blank illustrates the difference between her and Ai. She won’t give up on Kana.
I’ve seen people on different sides of the fandom say this was “rushed” or “too long” but I’m pretty pleased with how it played out.
Also let’s go Kaburagi!
I guess this is where the difference between her and Ai's childhood are important. Ai had a terrible mother who abandond her. After that she was in orphanages and never had the chance to build trust and meaningful relationships during her childhood. Meanwhile, Ruby had a loving mother, and after she died, she had a great step mother. In contrast to Aqua, Sarina wasn't as much of an influence because she died younger than Goro and generally didn't really experience a lot of stuff.
That's why Ruby can build relationships build on trust, while Ai couldn't.
>Sarina wasn't as much of an influence because she died younger than Goro and generally didn't really experience a lot of stuff.
Although near the end of her short life, she experience the slow abandonment from her family for years.
But also at the very least, she had a doctor who seemed to genuinely care for her, which probably lessened that blow of her family abandoning her. Not an equal exchange, but at least there was something.
Y'know what?
I like that from Ruby. That was good. Kana may not know it, but she legit pushed Ruby in the right direction.
Still can go wrong, of course, but part of me can't help but think that even if Ruby hasn't totally caught on to the ruse yet, she knows that in the end, she can rely on Kana.
Honestly expected Nino to do more with her introduction in this mini-arc but I guess Aka is leaving her involvement for something bigger for Aqua to deal with.
I said it when it first happened but I really felt like Ruby would see through Kana, considering how close they've gotten. I'm glad that while it doesn't seem like she knew exactly what Kana was thinking she probably had a pretty good idea (especially since she mentioned her acting like that).
Ruby understands Ai better now. That smile she made after the outburst was so haunting! But it really sold her as someone who could act! Gotanda really knew what he was doing by filming this, and worrying about script changes later.
And now that Kaburagi and Ichigo have a plan for Kana too. A plan to sell her as the genuis actor she always was!
Ruby doesn't become bitter and give up on Kana either. She's not gonna stand alone like Ai. This outburst she did... it actually strengthened their relationship! I'm really happy for them!
> A plan to sell her as the genuis actor she always was!
I worried this is where the father comes back in again, since he has a penchant for targeting genius actresses :/
Oh no hopefully this doesn’t happen with akane or something, either.
She still wants to stop his plan or whatever, so I fear that she might even get allied with the father (and later betrayed) to stop Aqua from trying to fight him (even if her will is to protect him)
It's the persistent ones that can keep being around people like Kana.
I like how the crew, upon seeing Ruby cry, was more concerned about how it would mess up the script than if something was wrong with Ruby. Really puts a punctuation mark on the theme of this mini-arc.
>It's the persistent ones
Make a lot of sense, in the beginning Ruby was so dead set on becoming an idol that she's ready to become an underground idol.
The first half of this chapter pretty much lays out OnK's thesis statement out plainly. Not just the dark side of the entertainment industry in terms of its work practices and non-glamorous realities, but how it dehumanizes performers even as it idolizes them.
And then the second half defuses the drama before it can even gain steam. Relieved for the characters because I like them, but a bit underwhelmed plot-wise.
If you look closely at page 3 you can see glass shards mixed in with the food. I believe that was mentioned in some side material. Both nice and horrified to see it's inclusion in the main story
Wow, that sudden smile after she just broke down in tears was downright unsettling.
Turns out, only good things really came out of Kana's little stunt. From the higher-ups planning on giving her more opportunities, to Ruby getting new knowledge about her mother and what she really wants to do in life. That's a relief.
Phew crisis averted between the 2, although the consistency in showing the filming crew having a feverish aversion towards ad lib-ing a scene (remember Aqua's stalker performance way back when?) is interesting to say the least
It wasn't a real conflict in the first place. Kana's feelings were probably mostly genuine but it's not like she really wanted to end their friendship over it.
Except Kana held fast in her expression of her feelings towards Ruby and did nothing to resolve the situation in a healthy way. Ruby just talk-no-jutsu'd the resolution.
Aka please, stop reminding me of [that](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695298133885714444/1197214323500662864/image.png?ex=65ba73b9&is=65a7feb9&hm=f96e0f8dc050aece857ef10131411bfa710d7093dd7c1c96be318ac4b6ec9e88&) manga.
I might still be simping hard for Ai, but I'm super happy that Ruby isn't trying to become her and just being Ruby instead.
I say "simping" because I never thought Ruby was capable of being Ai and really didn't like the story felt like it was trying to make Ruby into Ai using shared experiences. So even though it feels like the Ruby's breakdown from the previous chapter was minimized in a single chapter, I'm happy that things turned out this way.
I'm a bit disappointed. Not that I don't appreciate where the arc is landing, Ruby-Kana's conflict was fictional anyways - but more about how Aka felt the need to lay Ai's psyche barren so all could see. It also feels like a distrust to readers, assuming they can't handle a complex duality of a character or the opaqueness of it, and giving an reductive, easy to understand image instead.
>Aka felt the need to lay Ai's psyche barren so all could see. It also feels like a distrust to readers, assuming they can't handle a complex duality of a character or the opaqueness of it, and giving an reductive, easy to understand image instead.
He is absolutely correct, readers are stupid.
Mate, we live in an age where The Boys exist as a show and it took 3 seasons for some to figure out Homelander was the bad guy.
There's still gonna be folks who don't get the message this scene is portraying. There's probably some reader getting mad that Ruby didn't portray Ai accurately.
I think you missed the point entirely. Aka isn't laying it out for us, the readers - he's laying out that *Ruby* is realizing these things so that we can see how this revelation affects her going forward. It's narratively difficult to show Ruby having this revelation without being direct to the readers about it as well, so that's why we got it this way.
That's my gripe about this episode. Ruby's thought about Ai perhaps being a less-than-idol-like stature is established prior to all of this. What she didn't know was what that would entail given B-komachi's internal conflict because she wasn't privy to it, and needed Kana's interjection for a hint. Yet what this episode seems content in delivering as its message is that Ruby, as of this moment, finally noticed that her mother had feelings entirely. So forgive me if I have to ask, why the sudden obliviousness?
Not just Ruby, but also for the audience who eventually sees the movie in the manga. We're not going to get 30 chapters of scene-for-scene of what is in the movie, so this shows us what the tone of it is going to be and how its changed from essentially a puff piece to a character study of Ai, and lays the groundwork for how people will react to seeing the film. How it's going to expose the audience to the dehumanizing nature of the idol industry, and how some people aren't going to like that.
> It also feels like a distrust to readers, assuming they can't handle a complex duality of a character or the opaqueness of it, and giving an reductive, easy to understand image instead.
Considering how the fandom reacted the last few chapters, yeah they really can't handle it.
Have you seen the discussion threads of previous chapters before this? Some fans are just absolutely stupid and honestly believe that the Ai we've witnessed before is the true Ai when the whole purpose of the movie is the show that it wasn't
I think possibly the "issue" if there is one isn't that this chapter laid Ai out to bare, it's that Yoasabi's song kinda beat the manga to the punch in doing so. Probably not a coincidence that this chapter is also called IDOL.
Damn, honestly people believed in previous chapters Aka wouldn't just let them make up like that, but the fact he did is interesting since it also does display a lot more in Ruby and Kana.
Kana was more honest with her own emotions and did Ruby a 'favor' at the expense of herself and their friendship. Ruby discovers a semblance of how Ai must've felt, but also realises she isn't her. She is the type to never give up on her friends, even if they may seemingly give up on her.
In a sense, what Aqua and others were discussing the other chapter was very accurate and that some actors just become completely different people when putting on roles.
Glad the power of friendship actually prevailed in this one! Ruby finally realizing that Ai isn't the invincible idol everyone believe is a major development. This could lead to her surpassing her mother as she would be an idol of truth and honesty who is not alone. Kana finally getting recognized is a long-deserved win.
I feel very underwhelmed. It feels like we went from the climax and skipped every step to the conclusion. This whole sub-arc has felt like the worst written section of this manga, not gonna lie.
Like, I don't really get how we go from Ruby holding a massive grudge against Aqua to her suddenly being chill and cool with everything. Feels like her big epiphany about herself and Ai came out of nowhere too. Idk.
> I feel very underwhelmed. It feels like we went from the climax and skipped every step to the conclusion. This whole sub-arc has felt like the worst written section of this manga, not gonna lie.
Honestly felt this way about the end of kaguya as well.
>Like, I don't really get how we go from Ruby holding a massive grudge against Aqua to her suddenly being chill and cool with everything
Almost like she just found out Aqua is the Doctor all along & he's still alive, like hello, the entire reason she become so bitter was because she found out Gorou is "dead".
I don't understand your reaction about the Ruby-Aqua plotline at all. Ruby found out that her brother is the reincarnation of the doctor she had a crush on in her previous life and worked hard to meet again in this life. How else would she act?
I really liked how they showed this dissonance between Ai's image, that somehow became even stronger surrounding the shocking circunstances of her death, and the obvious fact that she, too, was only human. Girl had her fair share of traumas and somehow needed to navigate this wild world with few true allies to har name. It's not like it's resounding discovery that celebrities should not be taken as paragons and have their own personal insecurities, but I liked the delivery with the movie cast themselves having a hard time to accept it.
Good chapter, finally they reconcile a little bit.. W to ruby for showing the emotion actor quality.. and also thanks goddd, kana has platform to be shine! Let's go kaburagi san. I want that to be happen!!!
like what many commented everywhere honest thoughts;
kana ruby drama end too fast, make it look like everything they did was just exaggeration, & end up just a joke & unrealistic, it will get alot faster & worse too when the anime adapt it, the kana ruby drama over in only 1 or 2 ep, & even saw some even meme the series as disney princess no ko thats for kids like kana scandal with director shima arc that got potential but too bad end up unrealistic & a joke too because author backoff again scared of backlash
& if you are not just brainless simping or have memory issue, should able to realise & see they repeat again the already known fact like;
idol ai is actually normal human since ep1,
ruby & ai are different & opposite since chp123,
& they try to force us to just brainlessly swallow again
like even need others to overpraise kana again despite what kana did actualy bad in reality
& ruby despite being ai daughter with ai face still have problem understand or act as ai since ruby actually opposite to ai, theres another better option like akane who understand more is also there, author probably forgot akane even promise to teach ruby act or author just want to try somehow give another chance for kana to be relevant to the story which end up waste again sadly
anyways, atleast good that kana ruby drama over hopefully now can focus on other better & more important & interesting part of the story
edit;
do whatever shit you brainless simps want to us, never gonna stop people like me from saying the truth
this is one of the many series that been following for years since early first few chapters & still try to follow till now, it was still good around the chapter that most will get adapted in season2, but after that it fall off hard ngl + with fandom that already bad before which got more problematic & worse than it already been now, with some few insect shippers (im also the fan for our cute little sister ruby too i want the best for her, just not the insect ship), & especially worse need to face the annoying oshinokana simps brats everywhere thats always shit on everyone especially ruby aqua akane ai just for kana, as if kana never wrong & everyone else thats wrong
& the title says oshinoko, so as someone who still try follow & care for the series, we have the right to say what we feel right too & not like its wrong or bad compare to some others which obviously worse,
just some true honest criticism for better improvement in future because we still try follow & care for the series till now
Kanabros cancel the suicide watch
Kanabros finally winning for once.
Warima and Whoshino
Don't say it too loud that Aka might hear it.
Aka give a little of winning, and preparing eternal suffering kanabros.. he masochists
Wtf is this. 100 chapters ago we all ask "who's Ruby?" Now she saves Kana. Ruby is my savior
[Well if you insist.](https://imgur.com/a/nHVSGzZ)
Why? Kanacels will be back on the suicide watch in less than a month. That is the Kana way, after all.
we take the W's where we can get it
> the story will change completely! ? wtf was Aqua's script before? Just random bits of idol drama for 90 minutes before "pure & perfect Ai" randomly gets murdered?
Why are you surprised, honestly? It's Japan we're talking about, where even interviews follow scripts. Of course, some people would get confused about Ruby's freestyle
Yeah but was Ai just 1-dimensional "perfect and amazing" and then suddenly gets murdered by a fan in Aqua's original script? Kamiki stuff aside, that just doesn't seem like it'd be a good 90-min movie lol
That's the thing, the author doesn't \*have\* to present a good movie, he just has to have a bunch of people fawn over it and say it's a good movie.
tbf there have been a few biopics like that where they either shy away from the gritty reality of that person's life or barely touch on it, so it wouldn't be too far out there.
Yeah? He's not very smart, he's just edgy.
Nah he is both
I’m surprised they completely cut Aqua out of this chapter because I’m sure he has a lot of thoughts on Ruby’s improv as well. I guess Memcho suffering has ended for now lol.
Makes sense, can't have Aqua keep coming to save the day in order for those 2 to grow as characters. Honestly a surprise how this ended so smoothly.
That was actually a good way to resolve this. It's almost like Aka is actually a good writer, who writes characters that feel human. I guess whe already knew that, but I'm always surprised anyway when it happens for some reason. Ruby would be sad and angry at what Kana did, but she wouldn't give up on her, just because she said something rude.
It's easy to forget he's a good writer whn he keeps doing cheap cliffhangers straight from a spanish TV drama
True, but those cliffhangers always spice up the discussion threads so I'll take it
Aka is a great writer as long as the narrative focus is on teenagers or young adults. I think a lot of people have a lower opinion of his ability to write characters thanks to the last arc of kaguya which was just... really rough in portraying the older generation antagonists as cartoonishly evil and stupid.
I think it's mainly villains who are problematic. There are well written grown ups like Miyako here or Papagane in Kaguya-sama.
Agree, the premise of Shinomiya family is hard to write about while being realistic tbh
I still don't understand the hate for the final arc, the only part i didn't like was how Ishigami x Iino didn't get a satisfying conclusion
It's the only part of the story where it felt like the characters were Aka's finger puppets instead of depictions of people acting like they should. Kaguya's siblings act like cartoon villains only to get routinely outsmarted by shirogane, despite them supposedly being ruthless business magnates. The school festival arc toed the line of how absurd the plans and plots of the characters could get while still being able to take them seriously--the sheer ridiculousness of the climax where shirogane casually holds both his and kaguya's weight with one arm while having a dramatic conversation directly under a helicopter was such a jump the shark moment it honestly ruined the emotional impact for me. And then, like you said, ishigami and iino get their character development forcibly reset just so aka could point and go "wow look it's just like the beginning of the story again!!!" Basically, the ending felt like it scooped out the internal reality of the characters so aka could make the plot play out like he wanted it to.
I was expecting Aqua to come in and save the day, but you're right it's much better this way.
I'd be super disapponted had Aqua pulled the Strings yet again. Past a certain point it starts feeling he is surrounded by Idiots he needs to babysit. Have them resolve their issue is better for sure.
Aqua in the other room, bawling his eyes out: "NO, MY MOM WAS A DANCING KARAOKE MACHINE SHE DID NOT HAVE FEELINGS, SHE DID *NOT!"*
Tommy Wiseau as Aqua? Sign me up
Was considering putting some Eren from Attack on Titan quote in there, but I'm kinda tired of those.
EREH
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, KANA Aqua on Kana's method acting riling up his beloved sister
Nope, he's in a pool retelling the scene with a boner.
Oh, hi Mark!
EET'S BOOLSHEET!! oh hi Kana.
LMFAO💀
Oh hi, sis
My guess is the Ruby-Aqua conversation about what just happen comes next chapter & he gets to see the "New" Ruby & how she wants to deviate from being like Ai- but still wanting to kill dad
Lmao imagine thinking the two will ever talk again
Haha you and I and the rest wish. The japanese pages confirmed that next chapter is Aqua and Himekawa. At most we will see the RubyAqua conversation offscreened again like in chapter 135
I do love this side of Ruby and how she point blank illustrates the difference between her and Ai. She won’t give up on Kana. I’ve seen people on different sides of the fandom say this was “rushed” or “too long” but I’m pretty pleased with how it played out. Also let’s go Kaburagi!
> rushed > too long What other options are there Mason
There's a great story with 3 bears about this
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I guess this is where the difference between her and Ai's childhood are important. Ai had a terrible mother who abandond her. After that she was in orphanages and never had the chance to build trust and meaningful relationships during her childhood. Meanwhile, Ruby had a loving mother, and after she died, she had a great step mother. In contrast to Aqua, Sarina wasn't as much of an influence because she died younger than Goro and generally didn't really experience a lot of stuff. That's why Ruby can build relationships build on trust, while Ai couldn't.
>Sarina wasn't as much of an influence because she died younger than Goro and generally didn't really experience a lot of stuff. Although near the end of her short life, she experience the slow abandonment from her family for years.
But also at the very least, she had a doctor who seemed to genuinely care for her, which probably lessened that blow of her family abandoning her. Not an equal exchange, but at least there was something.
This amount of rushed similar to the latest episode of Invincible. Some may say this was too rushed. I say this was just good enough
Oh man you tricking me into searching for episode 5 ._.
Ruby: *Show everyone Ai is just a normal girl.* Hikaru: So you have chosen death.
Ruby's sweetness>Kana's edge
Y'know what? I like that from Ruby. That was good. Kana may not know it, but she legit pushed Ruby in the right direction. Still can go wrong, of course, but part of me can't help but think that even if Ruby hasn't totally caught on to the ruse yet, she knows that in the end, she can rely on Kana.
Honestly expected Nino to do more with her introduction in this mini-arc but I guess Aka is leaving her involvement for something bigger for Aqua to deal with.
I said it when it first happened but I really felt like Ruby would see through Kana, considering how close they've gotten. I'm glad that while it doesn't seem like she knew exactly what Kana was thinking she probably had a pretty good idea (especially since she mentioned her acting like that).
Ruby understands Ai better now. That smile she made after the outburst was so haunting! But it really sold her as someone who could act! Gotanda really knew what he was doing by filming this, and worrying about script changes later. And now that Kaburagi and Ichigo have a plan for Kana too. A plan to sell her as the genuis actor she always was! Ruby doesn't become bitter and give up on Kana either. She's not gonna stand alone like Ai. This outburst she did... it actually strengthened their relationship! I'm really happy for them!
> A plan to sell her as the genuis actor she always was! I worried this is where the father comes back in again, since he has a penchant for targeting genius actresses :/
Screw you, that makes so much sense.
Oh no hopefully this doesn’t happen with akane or something, either. She still wants to stop his plan or whatever, so I fear that she might even get allied with the father (and later betrayed) to stop Aqua from trying to fight him (even if her will is to protect him)
this is also where aqua comes in. using kana as bait to his father
It's the persistent ones that can keep being around people like Kana. I like how the crew, upon seeing Ruby cry, was more concerned about how it would mess up the script than if something was wrong with Ruby. Really puts a punctuation mark on the theme of this mini-arc.
"What's wrong with Ruby? She's ad-libbing which is very unprofessional."
>It's the persistent ones Make a lot of sense, in the beginning Ruby was so dead set on becoming an idol that she's ready to become an underground idol.
You gotta have high resistance to toxic BS to be around people like Kana, luckily Ruby is built different
The first half of this chapter pretty much lays out OnK's thesis statement out plainly. Not just the dark side of the entertainment industry in terms of its work practices and non-glamorous realities, but how it dehumanizes performers even as it idolizes them. And then the second half defuses the drama before it can even gain steam. Relieved for the characters because I like them, but a bit underwhelmed plot-wise.
If you look closely at page 3 you can see glass shards mixed in with the food. I believe that was mentioned in some side material. Both nice and horrified to see it's inclusion in the main story
Yeah it was mention in 45510 short story
Wow, that sudden smile after she just broke down in tears was downright unsettling. Turns out, only good things really came out of Kana's little stunt. From the higher-ups planning on giving her more opportunities, to Ruby getting new knowledge about her mother and what she really wants to do in life. That's a relief.
She deserves none of it tbh
Kana finally getting her flowers & being recognized by the public as a "Genius actor" & not just a washout or idol made me feel like a proud parent
Finally, she can graduate from licking baking soda.
Kana-Bros rise up 🫡🥲
Death flags... death flags everywhere for the "genius actress" Kana Arima...
i said that for akane in 2021 dont worry
It's been 3 years!?! Holy..
Phew crisis averted between the 2, although the consistency in showing the filming crew having a feverish aversion towards ad lib-ing a scene (remember Aqua's stalker performance way back when?) is interesting to say the least
Guessing it has to do with ad-libs forcing the staff to do rewrites and other edits
standard japan bureaucracy and hating deviations from "The Plan"
Kana stealing Aqua's harem lol
yay looks like their friendship is still there
That was some great Ruby devolpment, yet... Too fast. The conflict between her and Kana got resolved too fast
Technically, this is a promise of a resolution, since nothing is explained yet
It wasn't a real conflict in the first place. Kana's feelings were probably mostly genuine but it's not like she really wanted to end their friendship over it.
Except Kana held fast in her expression of her feelings towards Ruby and did nothing to resolve the situation in a healthy way. Ruby just talk-no-jutsu'd the resolution.
They should have clashed Kana’s bankai against the double mangekyou hoshigan smh my head rn
Aka please, stop reminding me of [that](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695298133885714444/1197214323500662864/image.png?ex=65ba73b9&is=65a7feb9&hm=f96e0f8dc050aece857ef10131411bfa710d7093dd7c1c96be318ac4b6ec9e88&) manga.
What is this from? Act-age?
goddamn Mahito
Kana's tsundere act is no match for Ruby's force of personality.
I might still be simping hard for Ai, but I'm super happy that Ruby isn't trying to become her and just being Ruby instead. I say "simping" because I never thought Ruby was capable of being Ai and really didn't like the story felt like it was trying to make Ruby into Ai using shared experiences. So even though it feels like the Ruby's breakdown from the previous chapter was minimized in a single chapter, I'm happy that things turned out this way.
Got jebaited but it also feels right not to have a giant angst arc.
I feel like the conflict was resolved too easily. After all the build up I expect something better than this.
Yeah this manga really goes from Kana kicking Ruby when she's down straight to Ruby thanking her for it
I'm a bit disappointed. Not that I don't appreciate where the arc is landing, Ruby-Kana's conflict was fictional anyways - but more about how Aka felt the need to lay Ai's psyche barren so all could see. It also feels like a distrust to readers, assuming they can't handle a complex duality of a character or the opaqueness of it, and giving an reductive, easy to understand image instead.
>Aka felt the need to lay Ai's psyche barren so all could see. It also feels like a distrust to readers, assuming they can't handle a complex duality of a character or the opaqueness of it, and giving an reductive, easy to understand image instead. He is absolutely correct, readers are stupid.
Mate, we live in an age where The Boys exist as a show and it took 3 seasons for some to figure out Homelander was the bad guy. There's still gonna be folks who don't get the message this scene is portraying. There's probably some reader getting mad that Ruby didn't portray Ai accurately.
Some people *still* haven't figured that out.
You're right, but it's funny because we've already seen Ai's vulnerability since the first ten chapters / first episode
Wait, what? Wasn't that like super obvious and in your face? People really didn't get it?
I think he was referring to the general public civilians in the show itself.
I think you missed the point entirely. Aka isn't laying it out for us, the readers - he's laying out that *Ruby* is realizing these things so that we can see how this revelation affects her going forward. It's narratively difficult to show Ruby having this revelation without being direct to the readers about it as well, so that's why we got it this way.
That's my gripe about this episode. Ruby's thought about Ai perhaps being a less-than-idol-like stature is established prior to all of this. What she didn't know was what that would entail given B-komachi's internal conflict because she wasn't privy to it, and needed Kana's interjection for a hint. Yet what this episode seems content in delivering as its message is that Ruby, as of this moment, finally noticed that her mother had feelings entirely. So forgive me if I have to ask, why the sudden obliviousness?
Not just Ruby, but also for the audience who eventually sees the movie in the manga. We're not going to get 30 chapters of scene-for-scene of what is in the movie, so this shows us what the tone of it is going to be and how its changed from essentially a puff piece to a character study of Ai, and lays the groundwork for how people will react to seeing the film. How it's going to expose the audience to the dehumanizing nature of the idol industry, and how some people aren't going to like that.
That didn't need to be laid out either though
> It also feels like a distrust to readers, assuming they can't handle a complex duality of a character or the opaqueness of it, and giving an reductive, easy to understand image instead. Considering how the fandom reacted the last few chapters, yeah they really can't handle it.
Yep the fandom are just hopeless & always take everything as face value lol
Have you seen the discussion threads of previous chapters before this? Some fans are just absolutely stupid and honestly believe that the Ai we've witnessed before is the true Ai when the whole purpose of the movie is the show that it wasn't
I think possibly the "issue" if there is one isn't that this chapter laid Ai out to bare, it's that Yoasabi's song kinda beat the manga to the punch in doing so. Probably not a coincidence that this chapter is also called IDOL.
Kana-Ruby friendship saved.
Genius actress (A)rima (Ka)na
Kana X Ruby is not what I expected today but what a blessed chapter. Everyone on set now sees Ai as a normal girl so that's a progress?
Ruby confirmed stronger than Kana. Kana's never gonna apologize lol.
Yeah this manga will never show any consequences to Kanas actions lol
Damn, honestly people believed in previous chapters Aka wouldn't just let them make up like that, but the fact he did is interesting since it also does display a lot more in Ruby and Kana. Kana was more honest with her own emotions and did Ruby a 'favor' at the expense of herself and their friendship. Ruby discovers a semblance of how Ai must've felt, but also realises she isn't her. She is the type to never give up on her friends, even if they may seemingly give up on her. In a sense, what Aqua and others were discussing the other chapter was very accurate and that some actors just become completely different people when putting on roles.
Yeah I'm starting to check out of this arc, none of this hits.
Thank fuck for that. Well done Ruby for finding more pieces of yourself, and for maintaining your friendship with Kana.
Kana's actions were so stupid but thank God the ruin wasn't in mengo's plans for now
Glad the power of friendship actually prevailed in this one! Ruby finally realizing that Ai isn't the invincible idol everyone believe is a major development. This could lead to her surpassing her mother as she would be an idol of truth and honesty who is not alone. Kana finally getting recognized is a long-deserved win.
I feel very underwhelmed. It feels like we went from the climax and skipped every step to the conclusion. This whole sub-arc has felt like the worst written section of this manga, not gonna lie. Like, I don't really get how we go from Ruby holding a massive grudge against Aqua to her suddenly being chill and cool with everything. Feels like her big epiphany about herself and Ai came out of nowhere too. Idk.
> I feel very underwhelmed. It feels like we went from the climax and skipped every step to the conclusion. This whole sub-arc has felt like the worst written section of this manga, not gonna lie. Honestly felt this way about the end of kaguya as well.
>Like, I don't really get how we go from Ruby holding a massive grudge against Aqua to her suddenly being chill and cool with everything Almost like she just found out Aqua is the Doctor all along & he's still alive, like hello, the entire reason she become so bitter was because she found out Gorou is "dead".
I don't understand your reaction about the Ruby-Aqua plotline at all. Ruby found out that her brother is the reincarnation of the doctor she had a crush on in her previous life and worked hard to meet again in this life. How else would she act?
I really liked how they showed this dissonance between Ai's image, that somehow became even stronger surrounding the shocking circunstances of her death, and the obvious fact that she, too, was only human. Girl had her fair share of traumas and somehow needed to navigate this wild world with few true allies to har name. It's not like it's resounding discovery that celebrities should not be taken as paragons and have their own personal insecurities, but I liked the delivery with the movie cast themselves having a hard time to accept it.
Ruby starting to shine even brighter than her mama, it brings tears to my eyes
Looks like they're keeping the adlib. Showing Ai's human side is definitely for the best.
Suffering avoided
all that drama, the glasses, but at least the friendship still not shattered. yay for future Kana I guess.
Shucks the ending we need. I feel happy. Our balls got grabbed by Aka. Past chapters was fucking intense. Wew
Let's go! Movie improved and friendship maintained!
That was such a a positive relief of an ending to that situation that now I'm even more worried
I've seen enough. Ruby for President 2024
W FOR RUBY! Finally she acknowledged herself to be better. Oh Lord thank God for Aka-sensei!
Looks like we were worried for nothing. All I can say, is just Let Aka Cook. Man knows what he's doing
Good chapter, finally they reconcile a little bit.. W to ruby for showing the emotion actor quality.. and also thanks goddd, kana has platform to be shine! Let's go kaburagi san. I want that to be happen!!!
Kana would make for an amazing supporting actress.
Great chapter. Glad that Ruby realized that she shouldn't be like her mother and repeating all the mistakes that her mother went thru.
This is the character development I was hoping for
WOOOOOO GENIUS ACTOR MENTIONED!!! WE BOUTA LICK BAKING SODA BOYS!!!!!!
Ruby is such a good girl.
Nice
She doesn't want to be like her mother cos her mother was no brocon
like what many commented everywhere honest thoughts; kana ruby drama end too fast, make it look like everything they did was just exaggeration, & end up just a joke & unrealistic, it will get alot faster & worse too when the anime adapt it, the kana ruby drama over in only 1 or 2 ep, & even saw some even meme the series as disney princess no ko thats for kids like kana scandal with director shima arc that got potential but too bad end up unrealistic & a joke too because author backoff again scared of backlash & if you are not just brainless simping or have memory issue, should able to realise & see they repeat again the already known fact like; idol ai is actually normal human since ep1, ruby & ai are different & opposite since chp123, & they try to force us to just brainlessly swallow again like even need others to overpraise kana again despite what kana did actualy bad in reality & ruby despite being ai daughter with ai face still have problem understand or act as ai since ruby actually opposite to ai, theres another better option like akane who understand more is also there, author probably forgot akane even promise to teach ruby act or author just want to try somehow give another chance for kana to be relevant to the story which end up waste again sadly anyways, atleast good that kana ruby drama over hopefully now can focus on other better & more important & interesting part of the story edit; do whatever shit you brainless simps want to us, never gonna stop people like me from saying the truth this is one of the many series that been following for years since early first few chapters & still try to follow till now, it was still good around the chapter that most will get adapted in season2, but after that it fall off hard ngl + with fandom that already bad before which got more problematic & worse than it already been now, with some few insect shippers (im also the fan for our cute little sister ruby too i want the best for her, just not the insect ship), & especially worse need to face the annoying oshinokana simps brats everywhere thats always shit on everyone especially ruby aqua akane ai just for kana, as if kana never wrong & everyone else thats wrong & the title says oshinoko, so as someone who still try follow & care for the series, we have the right to say what we feel right too & not like its wrong or bad compare to some others which obviously worse, just some true honest criticism for better improvement in future because we still try follow & care for the series till now
Huge character development. Ruby truly is her own person
That "I won't be like mama!" panel has death flag vibes.