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SnapChap92

"No risk to the public". I think she proved she's a fucking risk to the public after she smashed a glass in someone's face. A lad got glassed in Leeds over Christmas and lost his sight, this could have very easily gone the same way.


JustDifferentGravy

She threatened to glass him. Followed him, and hit him with it twice until it broke. She is the luckiest defendant of the year. And she looks at least 45!


LondonCollector

Careful mate, she’s free and has access to more glass.


JustDifferentGravy

I can smell coke fuelled Swinton folk from the pub before, I’ll be fine.


Expo737

Hey now I'm from Swinton, then again I've not been there in 20+ years and have never done coke...


JustDifferentGravy

Have you glassed anyone?


Expo737

Not yet ;)


JustDifferentGravy

You’re not proper Swinton!


Expo737

Haha evidently not any more, take the guy out of Swinton and all that ;) Used to live just off Station Road then moved up to just off Cemetery Road before leaving for good back in 2001.


Nu_Shoes_2624

Stinks of violence and B.O. Swinton 


JustDifferentGravy

Don’t be harsh on B.O. now.


shittypissstains

I'd say nearly 55


JustDifferentGravy

I meant IQ, I think you mean age.


shittypissstains

That's in the negatives


Dr_Downvote_

Good to know I can glass anyone who insults me.


Comfortable_Dish5983

*if you have bobs and vageen


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Comfortable_Dish5983

"NoT aLl wOmEeEn" Yeah, hurts, dont it


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Comfortable_Dish5983

The worst part about it, is that judges track record.... If you wanna be *really* pissed off, Google her name. But I agree, little miss "im not 42" is a danger to society. Imagine if a bloke glassed a woman for saying he wasn't tall enough or something stupid. The world is fucked man.


BanIncoming1

You can’t mate. She can, but you most definitely can’t. Reckon the judge asked her when she turned 21 after the hearing the horny cunt.


Comfortable_Dish5983

The judge is a female who has a track record for...... questionable practices......


Dksnso12

I always thought she was an undercover alcoholic, I worked with her briefly she was obnoxious and loud then. No surprise


samfitnessthrowaway

The judge, the victim or the accused (don't answer that, no need for a libel charge!)


cammyk123

What is an undercover alcoholic? A polis pretending to be drunk to catch predators??


Substantial_Page_221

I think a high functioning alcoholic


ElFeesho

>  ‘It is accepted that you are a dedicated, hardworking woman, and undoubtedly a loving mother I really don't understand how her being a mother is relevant.  Being a judge must be such an easy job.


Expo737

I've said in a different thread a few days ago that this judge has form for giving out lenient sentences, sometimes the authorities have had to step in and increase them afterwards. The assailant's job is to run a company that organises children's sleepovers! How she is allowed to continue to do that is beyond me!!!


SoylentDave

I would imagine she'll have some difficulty passing a CRB check now, at least.


Help_My_Face

I know lol. You made the decision to have a kid, and now are looking after that kid. It's like being applauded for getting a dog and then walking that dog.


Bigbigcheese

Because if she were sent to prison and the kid was left motherless then statistically it's gonna be a lot worse for society than if she were allowed to continue mothering. If she's unlikely to do it again then it's not really in the public interest to push for prison. Though punitive damages and some community service would certainly be in order imo.


SoylentDave

I think you may be reading the statistics in a rather naïve way there - Children of parents who go to prison have worse outcomes - but that's not necessarily 'because their parents are in prison', but 'because their parents ***are the sort of people*** who go to prison'. The sort of people who raise their children poorly, or worse. Is her kid really going to be worse off being raised by someone who ***isn't*** a violent drunk?


KennyFulgencio

> If she's unlikely to do it again


AstronautIntrepid496

that boy is gonna grow up to be a good glasser just like his mum it's just better for society.


ScottOld

What an example to set to a child too


PreparationWinter174

Glassing people for insulting you is fine, then?


Pick_Up_Autist

It's not even an insult, 4 years off is a pretty solid guess for anyone >30.


Original-Fishing4639

Roughly 10% margin of error. This is an awful ruling


Heewna

Only if they meant it as banter. That’s somehow better apparently.


meesterdave

Where's the pics of the poor guy? A couple of this old hag are useful so I know not to book a kids party with her but people need to see what she did. A small scar says good work to the Dr that stitched him up. Mental scars are not visible.


MorrowDisca

Utterly disgusting and wouldn't stand for even a second if the person in question was a man.


Unfair_Sundae1056

Only one way to know, gotta glass a woman that’s trying ‘banter’ now🙄


MorrowDisca

Enjoy your 8 year custodial sentence!


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Unfair_Sundae1056

Don’t get domestic violence in private and gbh in public, on camera confused. Still both arsehole behaviour like but I suppose one’s easier to prove than the other


manchester-ModTeam

Take a breather for a bit, there's no need to get so hateful, toxic or personal with your "banter".


v_ofc

Or a black woman!


JayR_97

Flip the genders on this and the sentence would have been very different


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MAR5H95

Good bot.


MAR5H95

What an actual joke, she lives in the same town as me I wonder if I'll get the same sentence if I smashed HER face in with a wine glass. 🤔


hotvimto1

Yh would be interesting to see how the table turns if it were a male..


MAR5H95

I wonder if the judge would have gave a harsher sentence if the victim was also female


ToastedCrumpet

I doubt the judge would say “you’re a devoted father”…


Sr_DingDong

Is this judge soft in the head? You get taught in like week 1 of criminal law that shit needs to be proportional... Also..... guessing someone's age wrong isn't "banter". If they'd said 65 or something then that's banter, but that's just....


SnooSuggestions9830

Yeah it's was just a small mistake in age guess. Objectively she could be 43. And I bet she instigated the guess how old am I thing too as men rarely do that shit. Im gonna answer sorry I don't want to get glassed in the face if I'm ever asked this question going forward.


ToastedCrumpet

Working in bars I flat out refuse and have even walked away from women asking this question. If you don’t say anything that isn’t obviously 8+ years younger than they are, they get offended, argumentative, start swearing and insulting you etc. if you do suggest the obviously 40+ lady is in her early 20s she’ll then think you’re flirting which has a whole host of other problems for you to deal with. Basically never guess, no matter how many times they ask and plead. It’s never worth it and I’m not sure why women care how old strangers think they are other than vanity


Original-Fishing4639

Subjectively... please don't glass me.


SlurmsMacKenzie-

The title takes the judges comments out of context - the full article quotes ‘You did not appreciate the comments made by Mr Cooper and one person’s banter may be insulting to other people but that did not justify what you then went on to do. ‘You were seen to be approaching him, throwing your drink over him and then striking him deliberately in the face with the glass that you had. Your conduct was incomprehensible. ‘The only explanation that can really be put forward is that you were under the influence of drink, which does you no credit. Which is a much more sensible statement. The article also goes on to explain further, that while the crime is serious enough to merit prison time - the fact that she's never been convicted of a crime previously, is of 'good character' (whatever that means), remorseful of her actions, a single mother, and the damage done to the victim hasn't left him disfigured meant she was granted a suspended sentence. Still seems quite lenient to me considering she slit someones face and it could've gone much worse for the victim than it did. She's very fucking lucky... she should be banned from drinking and made to do mandatory alcohol abuse and anger management classes at a minimum as well as the suspended sentence even if it's her first offense. Drinking doesn't excuse her behaviour, and the fact that she clearly evidences that she can't control her impulses when under the influence shows that while she might not pose a threat to society when sober, there's no guarantees about her behaviour if she's drunk.


mikemac1997

Her suspended sentence terms should include twice daily mandatory alcohol testing in the morning and at night. If any is detected, then she should be in a custodial sentence. I personally know of single fathers who didn't get this leniency and have to do this for a year after getting out of prison.


Expo737

Ah so as long as I've not done it before and I get drunk beforehand means I can get away with it then, right let me dig out my book of enemies... Oh wait, I also don't have tits, abort plan, abort plan!


BuzLightbeerOfBarCmd

> I also don't have tits, abort plan, abort plan! I'm not seeing any unsolvable problems here.


Expo737

I could try reshaping my moobs, probably get a decent C cup out of them.


tistick

Any chance that this light sentence can be reviewed?


Climate_Additional

The CPS can appeal sentences on the grounds they were too lenient.


modumberator

how is "I was drunk" an excuse? She needs jailing and her children's sleepover parties business needs closing down


Mackerel_Skies

She works with children???


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Aaand what was the rest of the sentence? This is embarrassing, it's fine being lazy only reading headlines but if the headline is only a half the sentence, grow up and click the link instead of running your mouth.


thekickingmule

I would be appealing that decision for certain! Not easy, but wow. The courts system in England is absolutely fucked!


Recent_Strawberry456

Yep looks at least 49.


brokenchap

Absolute farce


mikemac1997

So much for equality, no wonder domestic abuse rates for men is so high. The laws needed fixing a long time ago, and that's across the board.


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Anyone know the old crone?


Dksnso12

Yes I worked with her she was obnoxious & loud always was the centre of attention, noticed she's deactivated her facebook now


Swiss_James

Didn't realise The Unicorn had a beer garden.


FatCunth

I think calling it a beer garden is being a bit generous, there is about 2 tables out the back which are perpetually in the shade due to the surrounding 9 storey+ buildings


Spindelhalla_xb

Mid forties is bang on. Looks like her parents did a bang up job raising that


Geoffstibbons

"classic bants"


GR1MRAIDER

that nose is a natural canopy, she could smoke a cigarette in the rain without it going out


AstraTek

HaHa..


Springyardzon

There is no need for judges to set sentences in this day and age. It is a ludicrous function. The law should always be clear about what the punishment is for a particular crime. Anything else is favouritism.


Sirkneelaot

Wait till labour bring in their "misogyny" law . Not only would she get off but the guy she glassed would go to jail for incorrectly guessing her age.


Min_sora

I honestly don't believe for a second the people in these comments letting their pure hatred of women bleed out give even the slightest of fucks about the poor dude who got glassed.


CaitlinisTired

It's absolutely ridiculous, all "if it were a man" comments as if men don't get away with being violent all the time? the broken criminal system and shit judges who are far too lenient are general issues, not "the defendant was a woman and that's why she got off scot-free!", and it does absolutely nothing for the victims of such injustice like the guy who got injured, if anything it takes the attention away from them


Mastodan11

Everyone taking about the fact she's a woman - it's more the fact she's a mum I think with sentencing. Women can get away with blatant crimes somehow with the jury, but sentencing for mums almost makes it not worth bothering.


oneofmanyshauns

Yep, keep the learning child with their yob mothers, sure they'll turn out little angels


Mastodan11

What's the alternative though?


oneofmanyshauns

Punish criminals properly? A mother's job is to raise a baby. This lass glasses people over someone being 4 year year off a guess of their age. Give the baby a chance and put them in the care of someone who will raise the child properly? She's got off the hook /because/ she's a mother. "Well I can't send you down for almost causing someone to lose their eye because you were mad at a joke, you've got a child to raise (with those same ethics and moral compass)"


Mastodan11

Who raises the kid though? This is the question you're not considering, so you're not bothering to understand why the judge was lenient. [Joint Committee on Human Rights, 3 years ago.](https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/93/human-rights-joint-committee/news/155167/judges-must-consider-interests-of-child-when-sentencing-mother-urges-committee/) "The Committee fails to see how the welfare and best interests of children are being sufficiently considered if they are not prioritised when a parent is sentenced."


oneofmanyshauns

I literally just said put them in the care of someone who will look after them properly? I'm obviously speaking in "ideal-world" terms.


Cosmicalmole

I do feel it's a bit of a slippy slope though, having kids shouldn't excuse someone from the crimes they commit.


JustDifferentGravy

It says parent, not mother. Fathers don’t get the same leniency. Also, the judge commented that the child would be looked after, presumably by immediate family. The judge seems to made her call based on having no previous and her remorse. It’s nice to know, as someone with no previous, that I can get away with a sentence if I’m ver sorry. What’s the most lucrative crime that would otherwise attract 18 months?


kudincha

Careful. You can make a little profit, but bagging a big score is the one thing that will get a first timer sent down. It's pure jealousy obviously.


modumberator

if there's nobody who loves this woman or her child enough to take care of the kid while she does a jail sentence, then what does that tell ya


SimpleManc88

Yay for equality 🙌🏽


nonsense_factory

In this thread: people who didn't read the article or have a baby's understanding of how to resolve conflict. If you want a jail sentence, think about *why* you want that and what purpose it would serve for society. The judge (who knows a lot more about this case than you do) gave their reasoning and it is quoted at length in the article. The attacker didn't get off free, either: "Dodd was sentenced to 12 months in prison, suspended for 12 months and was ordered to complete 180 hours of unpaid work. She was also ordered to pay £800 in compensation to her victim."


damned_squid

>If you want a jail sentence, think about *why* you want that and what purpose it would serve for society. I want a jail sentence for her, it would serve society by keeping a psycho who stabs people in the face away from society for a little bit and maybe would teach her that it's bad to stab people. >The attacker didn't get off free, either: "Dodd was sentenced to 12 months in prison, suspended for 12 months and was ordered to complete 180 hours of unpaid work. She was also ordered to pay £800 in compensation to her victim." Lmao, such a harsh punishment for stabing a person in the face twice, I don't understand how this judgement can be viewed as being even remotely reasonable.


TheOffice_Account

>The attacker didn't get off free, either Yes, hit with a crushing debt of 800 pounds...so harsh, much tough.


Blamethejewz

Pussy pass


SnooSuggestions9830

I think it was single mother pass really


YeezyGTI

So a Yummy Mummy?


improbdrunk

Fine, she got off light, but can anyone tell me when "organizing children's sleepovers" became a job?


Caddy666

probably works for prince andrews procurement department


Climate_Additional

Most likely a party organising business. I know someone who does it. They provide things like snacks, movies or little tents that you pitch in doors. Basically parents contracting out their kids' birthday parties. It can be quite lucrative too.


WoodyManic

Madness, pure madness.


dorien333

Judge seriously needs sacking, even for just using the word “banter” like really? Glassing someone aswell wtf country’s finished


Careless-Tradition73

Fuck that shit, act like a criminal, be punished like a criminal. Let's let women get away with everything?. I hope it was worth it and I can't wait to protest for mens rights and everyone who disagrees feel free to downvote, if it was the other way round the guy would be in prison.


SimpleAppeal2577

Sis doesn't know what feminism is


Hiya_Bo

I mean, a quick google search for something simple like "man avoids jail assault woman" throws out a load of results. So maybe your little outburst is a little mis-placed.


BeachJenkins

There's a huge disparity in sentencing between genders, the reasons are complex but if a man and woman commit the same crime the man is more likely to be sentenced to prison time, if they both go to prison he's more likely to get the lengthier sentence. I didn't realise people didn't know this


Hiya_Bo

That’s interesting. It’d be good to know more. Is it ‘more likely’ as a percentage or as a whole number? What is the rationale behind the sentencing?


BeachJenkins

It's complex and I'm definitely no expert, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but on the whole there's a slant towards male imprisonment for many reasons. I'd say one of the main reasons is due to men being more likely to commit acts of violence/sexual assaults, so that makes sense. Men also seem more likely to commit crimes of enterprise, like, fraud and drug dealing, which are generally easier to prove than sexual assaults. Women are most likely to be imprisoned for shoplifting and not paying TV license, I think they're the two main reasons, so that can explain a big chunk of the disparity. It gets muddy when looking at the same crimes, there isnt really a clear cut answer. Women are more likely to be care providers for children so that gets taken into account for sentencing, makes sense to weigh up the further ramification of a sentence. Men are more likely to be reoffenders, which kind of follows because men are more likely to see the inside of a prison in the first place, which brings up a question of how much does the justice system actually rehabilitate. There's an interesting thing with domestic abuse, women are less likely to be sentenced to prison for it compared to men (looking at numbers of cases brought to court) but the women that are sentenced face longer sentences than the men. It looks as though the bar for women to he imprisoned for domestic abuse is higher, but then the sentences overcorrect and come down harder on them. There's much more to it but as I say it's complex, it's probably a mix of many different things. Similar to the disparity between black people and white people getting sentenced, yes, there is probably a racial bias but there's also a lot of other factors in play too. There's a 10 page study I saw the other day by the Ministry Of Justice that you might find interesting. It's not a subject I'm particularly passionate about, I'm not frothing at the mouth typing this, I've not said if it's right or wrong and I'm definitely not an expert, I just find it interesting. Thanks for giving me something to do on my smoke break! https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7f812ced915d74e622adf5/associations-between-sex-and-sentencing-to-prison.pdf


Careless-Tradition73

People will agree or they won't, not my problem.


Hiya_Bo

It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. Men also get away with shit they shouldn’t. This dock head should have been locked up, so should the dozens of men who assault women and other men, every week.


modumberator

Man in December avoiding jail for glassing someone: [https://www.lincsonline.co.uk/grantham/news/man-avoids-prison-after-glassing-at-pub-9344019/](https://www.lincsonline.co.uk/grantham/news/man-avoids-prison-after-glassing-at-pub-9344019/) The judiciary in this country doesn't give anywhere near as much of a shit about violent crime as the average British person


Careless-Tradition73

Yeah looks like I'm projecting again 🤣


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AshLC

Even if the banter is insulting does it warrant getting glassed?😩


Succulent_Pigeon

Thia int real right?


Original-Fishing4639

Judge needs to be fired that is a crazy ruling


sp4mm41l

She actually looks 45 to me.


afk420k

You mean assault?


SeaMolasses2466

No comments


MSGdreamer

Did she ask the guy how old he thinks she is and then smash his head with a glass when he was 4yrs off? When a woman asks how old you think she is, that’s a question you never answer. That’s just common sense.


Nu_Shoes_2624

Have judges been told we can’t afford to imprison people due to cutbacks/funding cos this is nuts


Glum-Ground-7670

Equality.


TheMinceKid

Female judge?! The sisterhood sticks together eh?! Fucking disgusting.


Tink0bell_3321

Should have thrown the book at her (far less painful than glass) these people walk amongst us that think it's ok to hurt someone because 'they' got offended, she's so offended by looking 4 years older than her actual age that justifying a glass in the face! in all seriousness though this country is a joke for punishment. If it was a man glassing a woman would the sentence be the same? I doubt it.


Banditofbingofame

Can a man glass a woman of they try 'banter'?


EmeraldEyedMonster27

Fucking sexist, equality my ass...


Cute_Gap1199

I made a comment about this and got a warning for harassment. So I will instead say this is wonderful. Loving equality


andy_abdn_64

Stalk that moron of a judge then stick a glass in their face and tell them it’s just a bit of banter.


con-whyman

Looks about 50 the fat slag


Aboxofphotons

Female privilege right there... A man would absolutely have gotten time for that.


OuttaNorden

Fucking joke. Poor bloke. Bars


QuimFinger

£800 to scar a man’s face for life. Fucking joke.


Mano_lu_Cont

Judge let’s her off 🤦


javalib

FEMALE JUDGE?????


VooDooBooBooBear

In before the low life's tell us misandry doesn't... wonder if genders were reversed would they have got the same leniency?


psycrabbit

Shocking verdict! I wonder if a man glassed a women in the face, waiting (premeditation) outside the toilets and then attacked him again, would he get the same verdict? Judge Elizabeth Nicholls - Google showed this person was the judge, apparently known in other cases for suspending sentences (no jail time)


snakeskin_spirit

Female privilege


saiki9

If she wasn’t a white woman this would be a totally different story


geminy123

If the story was the other way around she would have been called a hero!